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Tim February 13th 08 04:48 PM

I'll be casting my vote...
 


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I have used that first quote - ""Do what you can, with what you have,
where you are." to motivate people who have worked for me and it's
always produced results. Even from the marginal employees.


Tom, I'm glad you posted those. I've use that one many times myself,
but this one really hits for those who want to blame every one of
their downfalls on somebody else:


"If you could kick the person in the pants responsible for most of
your trouble, you wouldn't sit for a month."


A lot of truth there....

HK February 13th 08 04:54 PM

I'll be casting my vote...
 
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:01:29 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...

3. A beginning of a real program to provide access to health
insurance
for all.
This one and number 6 go well together. Let's see...double the tax
rates
anyone?
Guess how much I pay for health insurance, John. Just me, not a
family plan.

Stupid question. Look at you.


Stupid response, but I understand why you are terrified of answering
the question.



4. An end to the anti-abortion b.s. legislation and possible
Supreme
Court decisions with the first appointment or two to that court.
Hell, baby killing is nothing! Not giving terrorists their
'constitutional'
rights is horrid.

The abortion issue is actually not something politicians care about
or want
to deal with. They use it as a tool, a wedge. It's a good tool
because it
involves babies and religion, so it makes for fabulously emotional
debates.
But, it will never EVER be an issue that anyone agrees on. Same
with gun
control, although that's even stickier because all anyone can do
with that
is debate the meaning of one sentence in the 2nd amendment.

You need to tell Harry. It sounds like an issue that should be left
to the
states.

The gun control issue should reach a head in June, when the Supreme
Court
get to the DC issue.
--
John H

It's probably settle nothing, except maybe for questions about the
specific law in DC. Not anywhere else, though.




The abortion issue is only an issue to anti-abortionists. I suggest
they not get one, and if their teen-aged daughters get knocked up,
why, let those daughters bear the consequences along with the child.


Why do you deny the death penalty for convicted murders and rapists but,
an unborn child can be subjected to the death penalty anytime the mother
wants. The its her body argument falls apart when someone is charged for
the killing of a mother and her fetus. The hypocrisy of the pro-abortion
crowd is constantly visible.



I don't view a fetus as an "unborn child."

JoeSpareBedroom February 13th 08 04:54 PM

I'll be casting my vote...
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:12:56 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:01:29 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
m...

3. A beginning of a real program to provide access to health
insurance
for all.

This one and number 6 go well together. Let's see...double the tax
rates
anyone?

Guess how much I pay for health insurance, John. Just me, not a family
plan.

Stupid question. Look at you.



Stupid response, but I understand why you are terrified of answering the
question.



4. An end to the anti-abortion b.s. legislation and possible
Supreme
Court decisions with the first appointment or two to that court.

Hell, baby killing is nothing! Not giving terrorists their
'constitutional'
rights is horrid.


The abortion issue is actually not something politicians care about or
want
to deal with. They use it as a tool, a wedge. It's a good tool because
it
involves babies and religion, so it makes for fabulously emotional
debates.
But, it will never EVER be an issue that anyone agrees on. Same with gun
control, although that's even stickier because all anyone can do with
that
is debate the meaning of one sentence in the 2nd amendment.


You need to tell Harry. It sounds like an issue that should be left to
the
states.

The gun control issue should reach a head in June, when the Supreme
Court
get to the DC issue.
--
John H


It's probably settle nothing, except maybe for questions about the
specific
law in DC. Not anywhere else, though.


You're suggesting I'm terrified to take a guess? Here's a guess. I 'guess'
that you pay $3200/month in health insurance. From what I've seen and
read,
that would be a reasonable amount.
--
John H



Your response, above, to a real health insurance solution, was "double tax
rates, anyone?" Did I interpret that pairing of ideas correctly, or did you
place the typed words in such a way that the pairing was not accurate?

Single person: Almost $700.00. That rate stays the same regardless of age.
I mention age because there are lots of people at both ends of the age
spectrum who are not below the poverty level, so they don't qualify for any
of the special plans, as I call them. But, they're still not making enough
to afford $700 a month. Let's stick with single childless people for the
remainder of this discussion. It eliminates any static about "Oh they
shouldn't breed if they can't afford kids".

So, what do you do about people who are working hard, but still can't afford
$700 a month? Tell them to work three jobs? Self-insure? At the income
levels we're talking about (let's say $40-$50K), there's no way they're
going to self-insure enough to cover cancer care.

Are you going to suggest catastrophic care coverage, what used to be called
"major medical"? Doesn't exist in NY, and probably a few other states.



BAR February 13th 08 05:00 PM

I'll be casting my vote...
 
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
snip..
Open borders? Legal Latinos aren't 'demonized'. Illegal aliens, whether
Latino or not, should not be here.

And much more.

snip
John H

You'd be well served to quit demonizing Latinos and spend that time learning
Spanish.
Your future may depend on it.


We will assume that your are fluent in what the inhabitants of Quebec
call French?

John H.[_3_] February 13th 08 05:02 PM

I'll be casting my vote...
 
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:50:11 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:42:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:18:19 -0500, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:01:29 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...

3. A beginning of a real program to provide access to health
insurance
for all.
This one and number 6 go well together. Let's see...double the tax rates
anyone?
Guess how much I pay for health insurance, John. Just me, not a family
plan.

Stupid question. Look at you.


Stupid response, but I understand why you are terrified of answering the
question.



4. An end to the anti-abortion b.s. legislation and possible Supreme
Court decisions with the first appointment or two to that court.
Hell, baby killing is nothing! Not giving terrorists their
'constitutional'
rights is horrid.

The abortion issue is actually not something politicians care about or
want
to deal with. They use it as a tool, a wedge. It's a good tool because it
involves babies and religion, so it makes for fabulously emotional
debates.
But, it will never EVER be an issue that anyone agrees on. Same with gun
control, although that's even stickier because all anyone can do with that
is debate the meaning of one sentence in the 2nd amendment.

You need to tell Harry. It sounds like an issue that should be left to the
states.

The gun control issue should reach a head in June, when the Supreme Court
get to the DC issue.
--
John H

It's probably settle nothing, except maybe for questions about the specific
law in DC. Not anywhere else, though.





The abortion issue is only an issue to anti-abortionists.


That's a classic, Harry. Killing babies is an issue only to those who
believe murder is wrong.


Never in the history of our country has abortion been legally
considered to be murder. Never.


So what?
--
John H

John H.[_3_] February 13th 08 05:04 PM

I'll be casting my vote...
 
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:54:04 -0500, HK wrote:

BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:01:29 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...

3. A beginning of a real program to provide access to health
insurance
for all.
This one and number 6 go well together. Let's see...double the tax
rates
anyone?
Guess how much I pay for health insurance, John. Just me, not a
family plan.

Stupid question. Look at you.


Stupid response, but I understand why you are terrified of answering
the question.



4. An end to the anti-abortion b.s. legislation and possible
Supreme
Court decisions with the first appointment or two to that court.
Hell, baby killing is nothing! Not giving terrorists their
'constitutional'
rights is horrid.

The abortion issue is actually not something politicians care about
or want
to deal with. They use it as a tool, a wedge. It's a good tool
because it
involves babies and religion, so it makes for fabulously emotional
debates.
But, it will never EVER be an issue that anyone agrees on. Same
with gun
control, although that's even stickier because all anyone can do
with that
is debate the meaning of one sentence in the 2nd amendment.

You need to tell Harry. It sounds like an issue that should be left
to the
states.

The gun control issue should reach a head in June, when the Supreme
Court
get to the DC issue.
--
John H

It's probably settle nothing, except maybe for questions about the
specific law in DC. Not anywhere else, though.




The abortion issue is only an issue to anti-abortionists. I suggest
they not get one, and if their teen-aged daughters get knocked up,
why, let those daughters bear the consequences along with the child.


Why do you deny the death penalty for convicted murders and rapists but,
an unborn child can be subjected to the death penalty anytime the mother
wants. The its her body argument falls apart when someone is charged for
the killing of a mother and her fetus. The hypocrisy of the pro-abortion
crowd is constantly visible.



I don't view a fetus as an "unborn child."


"Sweetheart, that's not a baby's kicking you want me to feel, it's just a
fetus."

How often did you tell your wife that, Harry. Maybe that's why your kids
aren't too wild about you.
--
John H

HK February 13th 08 05:04 PM

I'll be casting my vote...
 
BAR wrote:
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
snip..
Open borders? Legal Latinos aren't 'demonized'. Illegal aliens, whether
Latino or not, should not be here.

And much more.

snip
John H

You'd be well served to quit demonizing Latinos and spend that time
learning Spanish.
Your future may depend on it.


We will assume that your are fluent in what the inhabitants of Quebec
call French?



After you learn English, you can learn another language. Spanish is a
great language, and not difficult to learn, though you need "immersion"
to pick up the rhythm.

Don White February 13th 08 05:13 PM

I'll be casting my vote...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
snip..
Open borders? Legal Latinos aren't 'demonized'. Illegal aliens, whether
Latino or not, should not be here.

And much more.

snip
John H

You'd be well served to quit demonizing Latinos and spend that time
learning Spanish.
Your future may depend on it.



I wonder if any of his grandchildren are old enough or strong enough to
push his wheelchair down the street for his Latino neighbors' upcoming
barbecue?

I'm sure they'd love to welcome the guy that puts down their existence and
mistaught their children.


The irony of it is...he could end up with Latinos looking after him in his
nursing home. I bet he'll be sweet as sugar then.



HK February 13th 08 05:23 PM

I'll be casting my vote...
 
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
snip..
Open borders? Legal Latinos aren't 'demonized'. Illegal aliens, whether
Latino or not, should not be here.

And much more.

snip
John H

You'd be well served to quit demonizing Latinos and spend that time
learning Spanish.
Your future may depend on it.


I wonder if any of his grandchildren are old enough or strong enough to
push his wheelchair down the street for his Latino neighbors' upcoming
barbecue?

I'm sure they'd love to welcome the guy that puts down their existence and
mistaught their children.


The irony of it is...he could end up with Latinos looking after him in his
nursing home. I bet he'll be sweet as sugar then.



Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

BAR February 13th 08 05:43 PM

I'll be casting my vote...
 
wrote:
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:42:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:18:19 -0500, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:01:29 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...

3. A beginning of a real program to provide access to health
insurance
for all.
This one and number 6 go well together. Let's see...double the tax rates
anyone?
Guess how much I pay for health insurance, John. Just me, not a family
plan.

Stupid question. Look at you.

Stupid response, but I understand why you are terrified of answering the
question.



4. An end to the anti-abortion b.s. legislation and possible Supreme
Court decisions with the first appointment or two to that court.
Hell, baby killing is nothing! Not giving terrorists their
'constitutional'
rights is horrid.
The abortion issue is actually not something politicians care about or
want
to deal with. They use it as a tool, a wedge. It's a good tool because it
involves babies and religion, so it makes for fabulously emotional
debates.
But, it will never EVER be an issue that anyone agrees on. Same with gun
control, although that's even stickier because all anyone can do with that
is debate the meaning of one sentence in the 2nd amendment.

You need to tell Harry. It sounds like an issue that should be left to the
states.

The gun control issue should reach a head in June, when the Supreme Court
get to the DC issue.
--
John H
It's probably settle nothing, except maybe for questions about the specific
law in DC. Not anywhere else, though.




The abortion issue is only an issue to anti-abortionists.

That's a classic, Harry. Killing babies is an issue only to those who
believe murder is wrong.


Never in the history of our country has abortion been legally
considered to be murder. Never.


Shouldn't it be? If no, why not?






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