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On Feb 12, 7:50*pm, wrote:
On Feb 12, 7:45*pm, HK wrote:





wrote:
On Feb 12, 7:27 pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:51:23 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:50:12 -0500, HK wrote:
...for the next president of the United States in about 20 minutes.
Here - take your campaign sign with you.
http://www.swsports.org/images/Pictures/bros.gif
Also good!
--
John H

I like this one better
http://www.tshirthell.com/store/prod...?productid=927

My kid wants one for school.. The kids are allowed to make statements,
on both sides except of course that one class where the teach is a
typical loonie left bully...

This one is more accurate:

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You know Harry, you constantly show a lack of imagination. Years ago
when I was here, you seemed much more clever, or maybe I have just
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Just ask him about his Zimmerman like lobster boat, he'll disappear in
a heartbeat!

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"HK" wrote in message
...
Tim wrote:
On Feb 13, 6:55 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:11:33 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
The image of the hard working, raw boned American with a "can do"
attitude
has been replaced by one of a bunch of soft bellied whiners demanding
their
"share".
"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are."

Theodore Roosevelt.

"Get action. Seize the moment. Man was never intended to become an
oyster."

Theodore Roosevelt.

"I am only an average man but, by George, I work harder at it than the
average man."

Theodore Roosevelt

"If you could kick the person in the pants responsible for most of
your trouble, you wouldn't sit for a month."

Theodore Roosevelt

Greatest. President. Ever.

If not the greatest,Tom? he's a dang good runner up!


When America was growing by leaps and bounds, and when there was plenty of
work, even for the unskilled, these aphorisms made more sense. Nowadays,
with jobs being exported overseas wholesale and with major manufacturers
offering to buy out their current workforces so they can hire new workers
at half the rate and with no benefits, well...it's no wonder workers are
looking elsewhere for a fair share.

It's the end result of the Republican credo of corporate greed - "I've got
mine, so screw you."

Really! I could have sworn it's the battle cry of union sheeple.

I'll be casting my vote...
 

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:11:33 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



The image of the hard working, raw boned American with a "can do" attitude
has been replaced by one of a bunch of soft bellied whiners demanding their
"share".

Yep. People used to work until they dropped.
Now they retire early to live off the sweat of others' labor.
Gives 'em more time to whine.

--Vic

I'll be casting my vote...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:11:33 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

The image of the hard working, raw boned American with a "can do" attitude
has been replaced by one of a bunch of soft bellied whiners demanding
their
"share".

"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are."

Theodore Roosevelt.

"Get action. Seize the moment. Man was never intended to become an
oyster."

Theodore Roosevelt.

"I am only an average man but, by George, I work harder at it than the
average man."

Theodore Roosevelt

"If you could kick the person in the pants responsible for most of
your trouble, you wouldn't sit for a month."

Theodore Roosevelt

Greatest. President. Ever.


Sure. He was the Paul Wolfowitz of his time. Spent much time & energy behind
the scenes, goading McKinley into invading the Phillippines, just for grins.

I'll be casting my vote...
 

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:11:33 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


The image of the hard working, raw boned American with a "can do" attitude
has been replaced by one of a bunch of soft bellied whiners demanding their
"share".

Yep. People used to work until they dropped.
Now they retire early to live off the sweat of others' labor.
Gives 'em more time to whine.

Get rid of social security as a retirement fund. Have it morph into a
disability insurance fund and only take the employers portion of the SS
contribution. Make it the responsibility of the individual to contribute
their portion of the SS contribution to an 401k or IRA.

I'll be casting my vote...
 

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:44:59 -0500, HK wrote:


1. A much quicker end to Bush's war against Iraq.

The 'war' has been over for quite a while. The cleanup action and building
a government is underway now. Yes, the Democrats would pull out and
accomplish neither. We can hope they will stop pandering and exercise some
sense if and when they take office.

2. Defanging of certain anti-civil-liberty parts of the "Patriot Act."

Hell, do away with airport security also. It's a waste of money, and
becoming a bigger waste.

3. A beginning of a real program to provide access to health insurance
for all.

This one and number 6 go well together. Let's see...double the tax rates
anyone?

4. An end to the anti-abortion b.s. legislation and possible Supreme
Court decisions with the first appointment or two to that court.

Hell, baby killing is nothing! Not giving terrorists their 'constitutional'
rights is horrid.

5. An end to restrictions on stem cell research.

There are no restrictions. You don't like the government spending your
money on Jesus, and I don't like the government spending my money on
another way to take life.

6. A methodology to begin balancing the federal budget.

That's easy, tax the **** out of everyone, except those who don't want to
work. Give them the money.

7. Real enforcement of environmental and worker safety laws.

Be sure to double or triple the size of the government while you're at it.


8. An end to the anti-science mindset of the White House.

Believe anything you hear about global warming, unless it's science saying
otherwise.

9. An end to a presidency built upon fear.

Ah yes, the palsy-walsy approach to negotiation. Give 'em whatever they
want, then they'll be nice to us.

10.An end to anti-gay attacks from the executive and legislative branches.

This from one who has done nothing but for a long time.

11.Programs to try to curtail the flow of decent jobs from this country.

But let's be sure to raise corporate tax rates and union costs.

12.An end to the demonization of Latinos.

Open borders? Legal Latinos aren't 'demonized'. Illegal aliens, whether
Latino or not, should not be here.

And much more.

If you want to dispute my belief that those are among the top issues a
Democratic president will work for, why you go right ahead. There's
nothing on my list that is an insinuation or allegation.

Your list is horse****.
--
John H

I'll be casting my vote...
 

"John H." wrote in message
...

3. A beginning of a real program to provide access to health insurance
for all.

This one and number 6 go well together. Let's see...double the tax rates
anyone?

Guess how much I pay for health insurance, John. Just me, not a family plan.




4. An end to the anti-abortion b.s. legislation and possible Supreme
Court decisions with the first appointment or two to that court.

Hell, baby killing is nothing! Not giving terrorists their
'constitutional'
rights is horrid.


The abortion issue is actually not something politicians care about or want
to deal with. They use it as a tool, a wedge. It's a good tool because it
involves babies and religion, so it makes for fabulously emotional debates.
But, it will never EVER be an issue that anyone agrees on. Same with gun
control, although that's even stickier because all anyone can do with that
is debate the meaning of one sentence in the 2nd amendment.

I'll be casting my vote...
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...

3. A beginning of a real program to provide access to health insurance
for all.
This one and number 6 go well together. Let's see...double the tax rates
anyone?

Guess how much I pay for health insurance, John. Just me, not a family plan.




4. An end to the anti-abortion b.s. legislation and possible Supreme
Court decisions with the first appointment or two to that court.
Hell, baby killing is nothing! Not giving terrorists their
'constitutional'
rights is horrid.


The abortion issue is actually not something politicians care about or want
to deal with. They use it as a tool, a wedge. It's a good tool because it
involves babies and religion, so it makes for fabulously emotional debates.
But, it will never EVER be an issue that anyone agrees on. Same with gun
control, although that's even stickier because all anyone can do with that
is debate the meaning of one sentence in the 2nd amendment.



I am all for mandatory health plans, with the government negotiating
group plans for those not covered by employee plans, just not a one plan
fits all program.

I'll be casting my vote...
 

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:01:29 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .

3. A beginning of a real program to provide access to health insurance
for all.

This one and number 6 go well together. Let's see...double the tax rates
anyone?

Guess how much I pay for health insurance, John. Just me, not a family plan.

Stupid question. Look at you.


4. An end to the anti-abortion b.s. legislation and possible Supreme
Court decisions with the first appointment or two to that court.

Hell, baby killing is nothing! Not giving terrorists their
'constitutional'
rights is horrid.


The abortion issue is actually not something politicians care about or want
to deal with. They use it as a tool, a wedge. It's a good tool because it
involves babies and religion, so it makes for fabulously emotional debates.
But, it will never EVER be an issue that anyone agrees on. Same with gun
control, although that's even stickier because all anyone can do with that
is debate the meaning of one sentence in the 2nd amendment.


You need to tell Harry. It sounds like an issue that should be left to the
states.

The gun control issue should reach a head in June, when the Supreme Court
get to the DC issue.
--
John H

I'll be casting my vote...
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:01:29 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..

3. A beginning of a real program to provide access to health
insurance
for all.

This one and number 6 go well together. Let's see...double the tax rates
anyone?

Guess how much I pay for health insurance, John. Just me, not a family
plan.

Stupid question. Look at you.


Stupid response, but I understand why you are terrified of answering the
question.



4. An end to the anti-abortion b.s. legislation and possible Supreme
Court decisions with the first appointment or two to that court.

Hell, baby killing is nothing! Not giving terrorists their
'constitutional'
rights is horrid.


The abortion issue is actually not something politicians care about or
want
to deal with. They use it as a tool, a wedge. It's a good tool because it
involves babies and religion, so it makes for fabulously emotional
debates.
But, it will never EVER be an issue that anyone agrees on. Same with gun
control, although that's even stickier because all anyone can do with that
is debate the meaning of one sentence in the 2nd amendment.


You need to tell Harry. It sounds like an issue that should be left to the
states.

The gun control issue should reach a head in June, when the Supreme Court
get to the DC issue.
--
John H

It's probably settle nothing, except maybe for questions about the specific
law in DC. Not anywhere else, though.