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NCLB
"John H." wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:58:53 -0800, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:29:59 -0500, John H. wrote: On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:20:49 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:33:34 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould wrote: On Feb 10, 12:25?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing Talk to middle and high school teachers about NCLB and see what they say about the system. It's a total disaster. ?And in states that require mainstreaming of those children who are developmentally, physically, mentally or emotionally "challenged", it's almost impossible to achieve the standards required by NCLB. Both of my kids are teaching in the classroom. My son (HS Social Studies) as a career and my daughter (MS Science) as a step toward eventually becoming a school administrator. The have been some positive aspects of the NCLB. For instance, teachers must demonstrate a level of expertise in the subjec they teach. The schools can't simply hire a guy because he's a great football coach and then say, "Oh, yeah...and you'll be teaching two periods of astronomy every morning so better read a chapter or two ahead of the students in the text book. Oh, and next semester you'll be teaching advanced trig, but don't worry about that- nobody will understand the subject well enought to realize you have no facility what-so-ever for math." Well, I would think that's a slight exaggeration. In CT, MA, RI and NY you have to be certified to teach both subject and grade level. Maybe it's different out there in the Great Northwest, but it's been that way here for at least 30 years and longer as Mrs. Wave will be finishing her 38th year this June. As far as I know, the only thing that the NCLB act did was formalize that practice nationally - I can't speak to areas outside of NE. But in general, the system is not so good. Far too many districts are strictly "teaching to the test". My son has several classes of HS freshmen who are spending the entire 9th grade simply studying to pas the 10th grade NCLB test- it's that critical to the district that nearly all the 10th graders pass so that the district will continue to get federal school dollars. That's about the size of it ok. Horse****. Not at all - it's a fact. Ask the next question - do the teachers know the test questions? What do you think they teach to? If so, then the whole thing's been compromised anyway. That's the point. True. Have been complaints out here of the teaching to the test. No cures, they still teach to the test. Easily fixed, if so desired. Don't let the teachers see the test. -- John H See my reply about a pool of questions. |
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