"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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No, it would not be worse. Bush was referring to something which had
already happened: 2.7% of the actual goal had been achieved when he said
"mission accomplished".


What goal?

To the crew of the ship, *their* current deployment mission had been
accomplished.
You still don't get it.

Eisboch

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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No, it would not be worse. Bush was referring to something which had
already happened: 2.7% of the actual goal had been achieved when he said
"mission accomplished".


What goal?

To the crew of the ship, *their* current deployment mission had been
accomplished.
You still don't get it.

Eisboch



See how the meaning of words (and even actions) can be received differently
than they were sent? A pretty huge chunk of the country read the Shrub's
little show differently than you did. There's more, though: The president
does NOTHING in public view that wasn't planned for effect. I seriously
doubt his minders didn't take into account the various meanings that little
show might have to the world.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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No, it would not be worse. Bush was referring to something which had
already happened: 2.7% of the actual goal had been achieved when he
said "mission accomplished".


What goal?

To the crew of the ship, *their* current deployment mission had been
accomplished.
You still don't get it.

Eisboch



See how the meaning of words (and even actions) can be received
differently than they were sent? A pretty huge chunk of the country read
the Shrub's little show differently than you did. There's more, though:
The president does NOTHING in public view that wasn't planned for effect.
I seriously doubt his minders didn't take into account the various
meanings that little show might have to the world.


You obviously know very little about the military.
That's ok though. Others take care of it for you.

The reason a pretty huge chunk of the country read the Shrub's little show
differently is because the media wants them to read it differently. And
people like you jump right into line.

Eisboch

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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No, it would not be worse. Bush was referring to something which had
already happened: 2.7% of the actual goal had been achieved when he
said "mission accomplished".


What goal?

To the crew of the ship, *their* current deployment mission had been
accomplished.
You still don't get it.

Eisboch



See how the meaning of words (and even actions) can be received
differently than they were sent? A pretty huge chunk of the country read
the Shrub's little show differently than you did. There's more, though:
The president does NOTHING in public view that wasn't planned for effect.
I seriously doubt his minders didn't take into account the various
meanings that little show might have to the world.


You obviously know very little about the military.
That's ok though. Others take care of it for you.

The reason a pretty huge chunk of the country read the Shrub's little show
differently is because the media wants them to read it differently. And
people like you jump right into line.

Eisboch




And you're obviously assuming "the military", meaning all soldiers, did NOT
think the "mission accomplished" statement was premature, or just plain
absurd.

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:55:26 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


What goal?

To the crew of the ship, *their* current deployment mission had been
accomplished.
You still don't get it.

Eisboch

Well, it's easy to get confused when Bush's speech, given that day,
included, "In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have
prevailed." While the *final* copy of the speech did not include
"mission accomplished", that is due to Rumsfeld, who stated, "I was in
Baghdad, and I was given a draft of that thing to look at. And I just
died, and I said my God, it's too conclusive. And I fixed it and sent it
back… they fixed the speech, but not the sign."

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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:55:26 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


What goal?

To the crew of the ship, *their* current deployment mission had been
accomplished.
You still don't get it.

Eisboch

Well, it's easy to get confused when Bush's speech, given that day,
included, "In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have
prevailed." While the *final* copy of the speech did not include
"mission accomplished", that is due to Rumsfeld, who stated, "I was in
Baghdad, and I was given a draft of that thing to look at. And I just
died, and I said my God, it's too conclusive. And I fixed it and sent it
back. they fixed the speech, but not the sign."




Believe what you want. Doug's in the same line.
It doesn't matter.

Eisboch

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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:55:26 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


What goal?

To the crew of the ship, *their* current deployment mission had been
accomplished.
You still don't get it.

Eisboch

Well, it's easy to get confused when Bush's speech, given that day,
included, "In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have
prevailed." While the *final* copy of the speech did not include
"mission accomplished", that is due to Rumsfeld, who stated, "I was in
Baghdad, and I was given a draft of that thing to look at. And I just
died, and I said my God, it's too conclusive. And I fixed it and sent it
back. they fixed the speech, but not the sign."




Believe what you want. Doug's in the same line.
It doesn't matter.

Eisboch


You said "Believe what you want." Are you claiming that Rumsfeld did
***NOT*** say the words shown above?