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There is no need to speculate over how many might be dead if Saddam
were still in power. What's the point of that? The point is, Bush's
actions resulted in the deaths of up to hundreds of thousands of
Iraqis, and for what? For Bush's personal political reasons.


For many reasons beside any personal political reasons.

Many in Congress were calling to "disarm" Saddam during the Clinton
administration and many of the most vocal were Dems. (We've already
covered that and the "Intel" issue, yet the left continues to brush that
fact aside.) The primary issue was Saddam's increasing refusal to
comply with the UN resolutions agreed to and signed by Iraq after it was
chased out of Kuwait, with Saddam being allowed to stay in power.

Clinton's only action, other than parroting the above in speeches, was
to lob a bunch of cruise missiles that accomplished nothing. (Many
believe it was a "wag the dog" effort to distract media attention from
his personal problems with "that woman".) Who knows for sure?

The same Intel existed when Bush entered office. 9/11 put the US on a
war footing against terrorism. He immediately went after bin Laden,
having to first demolish the Taliban who were providing protection, and,
receiving the same Intel about Iraq, including the threats of nuclear
and biological WMDs that Clinton had, he made a case of it and demanded
that Saddam comply with the UN resolutions. This demand was made
despite the UN's weakness in doing anything to enforce their own
resolutions. Saddam was given plenty of opportunity to comply, but
became more resistant, buying time (to do what?). Even the chief UN
weapons inspector, Kay, believed WMDs existed at this time and was
venting his frustration at Saddam's stalling activities. (Kay later
joined the anti-Bush conspiracy gang when events cast a shadow on his
own believability.)

Everything since then has been pure speculation by the conspiracy
lovers.

That's what I think.

Eisboch


And yet, Bush never went after the country from which most of the 9/11
thugs originated. Do you find anything wrong with that at all???


Yes. And in time that will have to be addressed. To do so now would dry
up our oil supply, a fact that cannot be ignored. You can't have national
security with no oil at the moment.

Eisboch



You said "now". That means there is a "when", when we *can* go after that
country. I figure we have at least 50 years before our dependence on oil
will lessen. That's a long time to allow an enemy to get away with attacking
us.

What do you think?

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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And yet, Bush never went after the country from which most of the 9/11
thugs originated. Do you find anything wrong with that at all???


Yes. And in time that will have to be addressed. To do so now would dry
up our oil supply, a fact that cannot be ignored. You can't have
national security with no oil at the moment.

Eisboch



You said "now". That means there is a "when", when we *can* go after that
country. I figure we have at least 50 years before our dependence on oil
will lessen. That's a long time to allow an enemy to get away with
attacking us.

What do you think?


I think we could be held hostage for oil way before then (we already are,
ergo the "suck up" by several recent administrations to the Saudis). We
need to get busy now, before our national security is at risk.
I don't care about fuel for cars or boats. We need the ability to defend
ourselves and others who rely upon us to do so. It's happening, finally.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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And yet, Bush never went after the country from which most of the 9/11
thugs originated. Do you find anything wrong with that at all???


Yes. And in time that will have to be addressed. To do so now would
dry up our oil supply, a fact that cannot be ignored. You can't have
national security with no oil at the moment.

Eisboch



You said "now". That means there is a "when", when we *can* go after that
country. I figure we have at least 50 years before our dependence on oil
will lessen. That's a long time to allow an enemy to get away with
attacking us.

What do you think?


I think we could be held hostage for oil way before then (we already are,
ergo the "suck up" by several recent administrations to the Saudis). We
need to get busy now, before our national security is at risk.
I don't care about fuel for cars or boats. We need the ability to defend
ourselves and others who rely upon us to do so. It's happening, finally.

Eisboch



We could've "owned" Saudi Arabia as easily as we "owned" Iraq. Probably
easier, since it would've been totally unexpected. And, we have little or no
concern for what the rest of the world thinks, so that's not a factor at
all.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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We could've "owned" Saudi Arabia as easily as we "owned" Iraq. Probably
easier, since it would've been totally unexpected. And, we have little or
no concern for what the rest of the world thinks, so that's not a factor
at all.


Hope you are listening to Romney right now.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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We could've "owned" Saudi Arabia as easily as we "owned" Iraq. Probably
easier, since it would've been totally unexpected. And, we have little or
no concern for what the rest of the world thinks, so that's not a factor
at all.


Hope you are listening to Romney right now.

Eisboch



No. What's up?

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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We could've "owned" Saudi Arabia as easily as we "owned" Iraq. Probably
easier, since it would've been totally unexpected. And, we have little or
no concern for what the rest of the world thinks, so that's not a factor
at all.

Hope you are listening to Romney right now.

Eisboch



No. What's up?



Turn off your Newsgroup reader and read some real news, either online or
the internet.

"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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We could've "owned" Saudi Arabia as easily as we "owned" Iraq. Probably
easier, since it would've been totally unexpected. And, we have little
or no concern for what the rest of the world thinks, so that's not a
factor at all.

Hope you are listening to Romney right now.

Eisboch



No. What's up?

Turn off your Newsgroup reader and read some real news, either online or
the internet.



Ah ha! Excellent. Now maybe he can focus his efforts on helping some used
car dealers moved inventory with that big, fake never-ending smile of his.

Eisboch wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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We could've "owned" Saudi Arabia as easily as we "owned" Iraq. Probably
easier, since it would've been totally unexpected. And, we have little or
no concern for what the rest of the world thinks, so that's not a factor
at all.


Hope you are listening to Romney right now.

Eisboch




I am. Y-A-W-N. Rehash of hash.