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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote: On Feb 1, 6:43�am, John H. wrote: Scary ****. http://www.freemarketcure.com/brainsurgery.php -- John H Almost begins to rival this: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...lth-care_N.htm Chuck, We need to find a way that everyone has access to healthcare insurance, but Canada is not a system we want to emulate. People need to figure out how they are going to pay for their own health care. I have to pay for mine. In fact I usually end up spending more that $12,000 per year out of pocket for mine and my family's health care. Socialized or single payer systems are just a fast track to rationing of health care. |
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Jim wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... On Feb 1, 6:43�am, John H. wrote: Scary ****. http://www.freemarketcure.com/brainsurgery.php -- John H Almost begins to rival this: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...lth-care_N.htm Be worried Chuck. The no pays are slowly shutting down our healthcare system. They get priority service while you wait for your insurance and financial history gets scrutinized before you get to be seen. Usually there is a co-pay involved too. But that's OK. It's our duty to stand aside while the wetbacks and our own entitled folks go to the head of the line for free. The "wetbacks?" Jesus, you really are a creep. What would you call them? "Them"? Get a dictionary research boy. When is your next book coming out? You use pejoratives in referring to blacks, Jews, and Asians, too? |
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![]() "BAR" wrote in message . .. People need to figure out how they are going to pay for their own health care. I have to pay for mine. In fact I usually end up spending more that $12,000 per year out of pocket for mine and my family's health care. Socialized or single payer systems are just a fast track to rationing of health care. $12k a year?? You must be one sickly SOB! |
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Jim wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... On Feb 1, 6:43�am, John H. wrote: Scary ****. http://www.freemarketcure.com/brainsurgery.php -- John H Almost begins to rival this: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...lth-care_N.htm Be worried Chuck. The no pays are slowly shutting down our healthcare system. They get priority service while you wait for your insurance and financial history gets scrutinized before you get to be seen. Usually there is a co-pay involved too. But that's OK. It's our duty to stand aside while the wetbacks and our own entitled folks go to the head of the line for free. The "wetbacks?" Jesus, you really are a creep. What would you call them? This song's for you, Jim: DEPORTEES (Plane Wreck at Los Gatos) words by Woody Guthrie, music by Martin Hoffman The crops are all in and the peaches are rotting The oranges are packed in the creosote dumps They're flying you back to the Mexico border To pay all your money to wade back again Goodbye to my Juan, goodbye Rosalita Adios mis amigos, Jesus y Maria You won't have a name when you ride the big airplane All they will call you will be deportees My father's own father, he waded that river They took all the money he made in his life My brothers and sisters come working the fruit trees They rode the big trucks till they lay down and die Goodbye to my Juan, goodbye Rosalita Adios mis amigos, Jesus y Maria You won't have a name when you ride the big airplane All they will call you will be deportees The skyplane caught fire over Los Gatos Canyon A fireball of lightning, and it shook all the hills Who are these comrades that died like the dry leaves The radio tells me they're just deportees Goodbye to my Juan, goodbye Rosalita Adios mis amigos, Jesus y Maria You won't have a name when you ride the big airplane All they will call you will be deportees We died in your hills and we died in your deserts We died in your valleys we died on your plains We died 'neath your trees and we died in your bushes Both sides of the river we died just the same Goodbye to my Juan, goodbye Rosalita Adios mis amigos, Jesus y Maria You won't have a name when you ride the big airplane All they will call you will be deportees Some of us are illegal, and others not wanted Our work contract's out and we have to move on But it's six hundred miles to that Mexican border They chase us like outlaws, like rustlers, like thieves. Goodbye to my Juan, goodbye Rosalita Adios mis amigos, Jesus y Maria You won't have a name when you ride the big airplane All they will call you will be deportees Is this the best way we can grow our big orchards Is this the best way we can grow our good fruit To fall like dry leaves and rot on the top soil and be called by no name except "deportee" Goodbye to my Juan, goodbye Rosalita Adios mis amigos, Jesus y Maria You won't have a name when you ride the big airplane All they will call you will be deportees -- George W. Bush - Worst President Ever, to the very last minute of the very last day of his term. |
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Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message . .. People need to figure out how they are going to pay for their own health care. I have to pay for mine. In fact I usually end up spending more that $12,000 per year out of pocket for mine and my family's health care. Socialized or single payer systems are just a fast track to rationing of health care. $12k a year?? You must be one sickly SOB! That's about the price of decent but not terrific individually purchased health insurance for a fairly healthy couple with one or two kids. |
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![]() "HK" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... On Feb 1, 6:43�am, John H. wrote: Scary ****. http://www.freemarketcure.com/brainsurgery.php -- John H Almost begins to rival this: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...lth-care_N.htm Be worried Chuck. The no pays are slowly shutting down our healthcare system. They get priority service while you wait for your insurance and financial history gets scrutinized before you get to be seen. Usually there is a co-pay involved too. But that's OK. It's our duty to stand aside while the wetbacks and our own entitled folks go to the head of the line for free. The "wetbacks?" Jesus, you really are a creep. What would you call them? "Them"? Get a dictionary research boy. When is your next book coming out? You use pejoratives in referring to blacks, Jews, and Asians, too? Well research boy, "Them" wasn't referring to color, race, national origin, or religion. And you can shove your pejoratives up Uranus. If you'll excuse me, my Video Essentials DVD just came in and I'm going to play with that for a while. |
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![]() "HK" wrote in message . .. Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... On Feb 1, 6:43�am, John H. wrote: Scary ****. http://www.freemarketcure.com/brainsurgery.php -- John H Almost begins to rival this: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...lth-care_N.htm Be worried Chuck. The no pays are slowly shutting down our healthcare system. They get priority service while you wait for your insurance and financial history gets scrutinized before you get to be seen. Usually there is a co-pay involved too. But that's OK. It's our duty to stand aside while the wetbacks and our own entitled folks go to the head of the line for free. The "wetbacks?" Jesus, you really are a creep. What would you call them? (Touching non answer from Harry deleted.) |
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On Feb 1, 9:24Â*am, BAR wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Feb 1, 6:43�am, John H. wrote: Scary ****. http://www.freemarketcure.com/brainsurgery.php -- John H Almost begins to rival this: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...lth-care_N.htm Chuck, We need to find a way that everyone has access to healthcare insurance, but Canada is not a system we want to emulate. People need to figure out how they are going to pay for their own health care. I have to pay for mine. In fact I usually end up spending more that $12,000 per year out of pocket for mine and my family's health care. Socialized or single payer systems are just a fast track to rationing of health care.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Rationing? The current US system is also highly rationed. The rich have access to the best available care. The poor have no to very-limited access. I actually have a plan. We stop trying to deliver public health care through private practice. We would set up a "pretty good" system of public health clinics and hospitals across the country. No, there wouldn't be private rooms, and nobody would take up a bed for cosmetic plastic surgery or vacuuming away body fat. Some of the most advanced heart transplant or other surgeries might not be available. A few people might die for lack of the most exotic or heroic treatments, but we would provide a basic level of care and repair to all comers. Think of it as a public school, not actually intended to be the very finest education available to anybody anywhere with any amount of money to spend, but better than adequate for most and much better than nothing for all. If restricting access to the most ridiculously expensive medical procedures sounds heartless, it might be. But at what point do we draw the line? Let's assume that somebody develops a bang-on, foolproof, absolutely 100% effective sure cure for any type of cancer. Only problem, it relies on some ridiculously expensive rare metals and treatment can't be administered for less than $10-12mm per patient. Does society step up and spend $12mm in public funds to cure the cancer of a 90-year old diabetic also suffering from kidney failure and heart disease? Most medical ethicists would probably agree, "no". To preserve freedom of choice in the marketplace, "boutique" level health care would also be available for those who chose to pay for it. Insurance companies could sell policies to provide more personalized service and fund the $500,000 heart/lung transplants and other exceptional cases. Those willing to pay could have luxury suites, gourmet menus, etc etc etc. The sky would be the limit. I have no problem allowing those with the means and desire to buy a premium level of health care over and above what is available through the proposed public system. That's what the patient in John's video did, except then he decided to sue the Province to try to get the taxpayers to reimburse him for the expense associated with his prioritized treatment. That's not so different from deciding that Harvard offered a better education than Local State U, going there to get a degree, and then suing your home state for a refund representing the difference in tution. There's something wrong with the perspective that poor kids should be denied access to decent health care (as in Texas, where a full 30% of workers have no health insurance and the state doesn't put up the 28- cents required to get 78-cents in Federal money for kids health). There's something wrong with a system that causes middle class men approaching and/or entering retirement to view the kids and the truly indigent as "competitors" for health care. Split the system. Basic, decent, public care adequate to sustain the general health of the poor or those who choose not to pay for anything more exotic, and traditional private practice for folks who want the best health care money (a lot of it) can buy. |
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![]() "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... On Feb 1, 6:43?am, John H. wrote: Scary ****. http://www.freemarketcure.com/brainsurgery.php -- John H Almost begins to rival this: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...lth-care_N.htm "Illegal immigrants represent 21% of the county's public caseload, even though they represent only about 6% of the area's population." But we need the illegals according to Obama and Hillary. Something is very wrong when 1/3 of the people do not have insurance. It says they are either playing the system, so figured out they want to spend the $125 a month a person in the teens and twenties pays on something else. |
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![]() "HK" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... On Feb 1, 6:43?am, John H. wrote: Scary ****. http://www.freemarketcure.com/brainsurgery.php -- John H Almost begins to rival this: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...lth-care_N.htm Be worried Chuck. The no pays are slowly shutting down our healthcare system. They get priority service while you wait for your insurance and financial history gets scrutinized before you get to be seen. Usually there is a co-pay involved too. But that's OK. It's our duty to stand aside while the wetbacks and our own entitled folks go to the head of the line for free. The "wetbacks?" Jesus, you really are a creep. What would you call them? "Them"? Get a dictionary research boy. When is your next book coming out? You use pejoratives in referring to blacks, Jews, and Asians, too? You use pejoratives in referring to conservatives, Christians, and those not approved by the DNC and union leadership. Why questions this persons pejoratives? |
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