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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:17:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend those
schools?
That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what you mean,
too?

My daughter went to Lee County schools for 10 years and I volunteered
at the middle schools for a while, talking about water quality until
we figured out I wasn't preaching the company line (all evel is caused
by boaters and "Big Sugar"). I just told it the way I saw if from 8
years of actual water sampling.


I hereby offer my condolences. That's what you get for living in a
backward state, I guess. Here (NY), my son never got any sort of slanted
crap. Matter of fact, his social studies books were neutral to the point
of being as boring as the airbrushed bras in the old Sears catalogs. Does
Floriduh have a state syllabus, or is everything determined at the local
level, by the Klan, church, or whoever's in charge?


Just wondering.... How much of your sons Social Studies curriculum was
dedicated to the Revolutionary War, and to the Founding Fathers?



Just the right amount.

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:17:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend those
schools?
That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what you mean,
too?
My daughter went to Lee County schools for 10 years and I volunteered
at the middle schools for a while, talking about water quality until
we figured out I wasn't preaching the company line (all evel is caused
by boaters and "Big Sugar"). I just told it the way I saw if from 8
years of actual water sampling.

I hereby offer my condolences. That's what you get for living in a
backward state, I guess. Here (NY), my son never got any sort of slanted
crap. Matter of fact, his social studies books were neutral to the point
of being as boring as the airbrushed bras in the old Sears catalogs. Does
Floriduh have a state syllabus, or is everything determined at the local
level, by the Klan, church, or whoever's in charge?

Just wondering.... How much of your sons Social Studies curriculum was
dedicated to the Revolutionary War, and to the Founding Fathers?



Just the right amount.



Florida used to grossly underpay its classroom teachers. I hope that has
changed. The state used to rank about 30th in teacher pay. Blech.

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:31:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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OK. So, did you surround your daughter with many alternative forms of
information so she could see other viewpoints and form her own opinions?

Separate question: When you spoke to the principal, teachers and school
board about these problems, what did they tell you?

Blank stares



Oy. People like that respond very well to shock, pain and embarrassment. You
needed to crank it up.

Did I ever tell you about my son's petition adventure with his math teacher
in 10th grade?

On Jan 29, 11:24*am, HK wrote:
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:17:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend those
schools?
That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what you mean,
too?
My daughter went to Lee County schools for 10 years and I volunteered
at the middle schools for a while, talking about water quality until
we figured out I wasn't preaching the company line (all evel is caused
by boaters and "Big Sugar"). I just told it the way I saw if from 8
years of actual water sampling.

I hereby offer my condolences. That's what you get for living in a
backward state, I guess. Here (NY), my son never got any sort of slanted
crap. Matter of fact, his social studies books were neutral to the point
of being as boring as the airbrushed bras in the old Sears catalogs. Does
Floriduh have a state syllabus, or is everything determined at the local
level, by the Klan, church, or whoever's in charge?

Just wondering.... How much of your sons Social Studies curriculum was
dedicated to the Revolutionary War, and to the Founding Fathers?

Just the right amount.

Florida used to grossly underpay its classroom teachers. I hope that has
changed. The state used to rank about 30th in teacher pay. Blech.- Hide quoted text -

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Why would their curriculum change because they get paid more?

On Jan 28, 11:37*pm, wrote:
On Jan 28, 11:29*pm, Tim wrote:

On Jan 28, 3:52*pm, HK wrote:

No, it isn't. I'm not much of a fan of the music "created" by oddly
shaped guitars-

I am!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Vjw...eature=related

Nice, I have the G3 Live in Tokyo DVD with Vai, Satriani, and
Petrucci. I think I will have to pull it out and see if I can find an
oddly shaped guitar and play along

Harry would never make a decent musician because of his narrow minded
views toward, well, everything. Most real, talented musicians love to
cross over to other genres and jamb with other musicians of other
genres.

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:17:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend those
schools?
That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what you
mean,
too?

My daughter went to Lee County schools for 10 years and I
volunteered
at the middle schools for a while, talking about water quality
until
we figured out I wasn't preaching the company line (all evel is
caused
by boaters and "Big Sugar"). I just told it the way I saw if from
8
years of actual water sampling.

I hereby offer my condolences. That's what you get for living in a
backward
state, I guess. Here (NY), my son never got any sort of slanted
crap.
Matter
of fact, his social studies books were neutral to the point of being
as
boring as the airbrushed bras in the old Sears catalogs. Does
Floriduh
have
a state syllabus, or is everything determined at the local level, by
the
Klan, church, or whoever's in charge?

you are a miserable son of a bitch....

============================

The syllabus (go look it up in a dictionary) comes from SOMEWHERE.
It's at
the state level, or the local level. If the syllabus is meddled with
by
special interest groups, it's usually at the local level, although in
some
backwaters like Kansas, it's at higher levels. If gretwell didn't like
what
went on in his daughter's school, he knew who to blame. It's not that
difficult to melt those evil forces.- Hide quoted text -

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You are clueless... drunk, fat, and lazy is no way to live your life
son...- Hide quoted text -

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Great, now you're stooping to Harry's level.....- Hide quoted text -

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Nope, just not going to have a discussion with someone who knows
nothing but how to insult and diminish.. When some butt****ed drunken
child starts questioning my parenting skills and the decisions me and
my kids make, it is just over the line. Joe needs a good bitch
slappin'. I would love to give it to him but you know the little pussy
would cry and sue....

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Oh please. Come on over, cupcake.- Hide quoted text -

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I don't fight assholes anymore, don't feel like going to jail. But if
you are ever in the area you are welcome to stop by the gym. They have
a ring and first aid on site. Only two requirements, you need to sign
a release, and my bud gets to videotape the match. Until then, ****
off....

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:17:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend
those
schools?
That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what
you
mean,
too?

My daughter went to Lee County schools for 10 years and I
volunteered
at the middle schools for a while, talking about water quality
until
we figured out I wasn't preaching the company line (all evel is
caused
by boaters and "Big Sugar"). I just told it the way I saw if
from
8
years of actual water sampling.

I hereby offer my condolences. That's what you get for living in a
backward
state, I guess. Here (NY), my son never got any sort of slanted
crap.
Matter
of fact, his social studies books were neutral to the point of
being
as
boring as the airbrushed bras in the old Sears catalogs. Does
Floriduh
have
a state syllabus, or is everything determined at the local level,
by
the
Klan, church, or whoever's in charge?

you are a miserable son of a bitch....

============================

The syllabus (go look it up in a dictionary) comes from SOMEWHERE.
It's at
the state level, or the local level. If the syllabus is meddled with
by
special interest groups, it's usually at the local level, although
in
some
backwaters like Kansas, it's at higher levels. If gretwell didn't
like
what
went on in his daughter's school, he knew who to blame. It's not
that
difficult to melt those evil forces.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You are clueless... drunk, fat, and lazy is no way to live your life
son...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Great, now you're stooping to Harry's level.....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nope, just not going to have a discussion with someone who knows
nothing but how to insult and diminish.. When some butt****ed drunken
child starts questioning my parenting skills and the decisions me and
my kids make, it is just over the line. Joe needs a good bitch
slappin'. I would love to give it to him but you know the little pussy
would cry and sue....

=============

Oh please. Come on over, cupcake.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't fight assholes anymore, don't feel like going to jail. But if
you are ever in the area you are welcome to stop by the gym. They have
a ring and first aid on site. Only two requirements, you need to sign
a release, and my bud gets to videotape the match. Until then, ****
off....

===================


I promise you won't go to jail, cupcake.

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:17:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend
those
schools?
That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what
you
mean,
too?

My daughter went to Lee County schools for 10 years and I
volunteered
at the middle schools for a while, talking about water quality
until
we figured out I wasn't preaching the company line (all evel is
caused
by boaters and "Big Sugar"). I just told it the way I saw if
from
8
years of actual water sampling.

I hereby offer my condolences. That's what you get for living in a
backward
state, I guess. Here (NY), my son never got any sort of slanted
crap.
Matter
of fact, his social studies books were neutral to the point of
being
as
boring as the airbrushed bras in the old Sears catalogs. Does
Floriduh
have
a state syllabus, or is everything determined at the local level,
by
the
Klan, church, or whoever's in charge?

you are a miserable son of a bitch....

============================

The syllabus (go look it up in a dictionary) comes from SOMEWHERE.
It's at
the state level, or the local level. If the syllabus is meddled with
by
special interest groups, it's usually at the local level, although
in
some
backwaters like Kansas, it's at higher levels. If gretwell didn't
like
what
went on in his daughter's school, he knew who to blame. It's not
that
difficult to melt those evil forces.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You are clueless... drunk, fat, and lazy is no way to live your life
son...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Great, now you're stooping to Harry's level.....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nope, just not going to have a discussion with someone who knows
nothing but how to insult and diminish.. When some butt****ed drunken
child starts questioning my parenting skills and the decisions me and
my kids make, it is just over the line. Joe needs a good bitch
slappin'. I would love to give it to him but you know the little pussy
would cry and sue....

=============

Oh please. Come on over, cupcake.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't fight assholes anymore, don't feel like going to jail. But if
you are ever in the area you are welcome to stop by the gym. They have
a ring and first aid on site. Only two requirements, you need to sign
a release, and my bud gets to videotape the match. Until then, ****
off....

===================

I promise you won't go to jail, cupcake.- Hide quoted text -

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until then, **** off...

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:17:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend
those
schools?
That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what
you
mean,
too?

My daughter went to Lee County schools for 10 years and I
volunteered
at the middle schools for a while, talking about water quality
until
we figured out I wasn't preaching the company line (all evel
is
caused
by boaters and "Big Sugar"). I just told it the way I saw if
from
8
years of actual water sampling.

I hereby offer my condolences. That's what you get for living in
a
backward
state, I guess. Here (NY), my son never got any sort of slanted
crap.
Matter
of fact, his social studies books were neutral to the point of
being
as
boring as the airbrushed bras in the old Sears catalogs. Does
Floriduh
have
a state syllabus, or is everything determined at the local
level,
by
the
Klan, church, or whoever's in charge?

you are a miserable son of a bitch....

============================

The syllabus (go look it up in a dictionary) comes from SOMEWHERE.
It's at
the state level, or the local level. If the syllabus is meddled
with
by
special interest groups, it's usually at the local level, although
in
some
backwaters like Kansas, it's at higher levels. If gretwell didn't
like
what
went on in his daughter's school, he knew who to blame. It's not
that
difficult to melt those evil forces.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You are clueless... drunk, fat, and lazy is no way to live your life
son...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Great, now you're stooping to Harry's level.....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nope, just not going to have a discussion with someone who knows
nothing but how to insult and diminish.. When some butt****ed drunken
child starts questioning my parenting skills and the decisions me and
my kids make, it is just over the line. Joe needs a good bitch
slappin'. I would love to give it to him but you know the little pussy
would cry and sue....

=============

Oh please. Come on over, cupcake.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't fight assholes anymore, don't feel like going to jail. But if
you are ever in the area you are welcome to stop by the gym. They have
a ring and first aid on site. Only two requirements, you need to sign
a release, and my bud gets to videotape the match. Until then, ****
off....

===================

I promise you won't go to jail, cupcake.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

until then, **** off...

===================


Maybe you should contain your childish wishes and refrain from talking about
bitch slapping people because you don't agree with them. When kids throw
tantrums like that, they get in trouble. When they grow up and act out those
fantasies, they get arrested, or worse.

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:43:03 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Jan 28, 11:37 pm, wrote:
On Jan 28, 11:29 pm, Tim wrote:

On Jan 28, 3:52 pm, HK wrote:

No, it isn't. I'm not much of a fan of the music "created" by oddly
shaped guitars-

I am!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Vjw...eature=related

Nice, I have the G3 Live in Tokyo DVD with Vai, Satriani, and
Petrucci. I think I will have to pull it out and see if I can find an
oddly shaped guitar and play along

Harry would never make a decent musician because of his narrow minded
views toward, well, everything. Most real, talented musicians love to
cross over to other genres and jamb with other musicians of other
genres.

Pablo Casals (cello) and Andres Segovia (guitar) are just two examples
of extremely narrow minded but completely "decent" musicians. They
both spoke very harshly about how all music other than their own was
total crap. There are countless others who are very accomplished
musically, but feel the same way. I'm not, of course suggesting that
all great musicians are narrow minded.

I'm sure there are other reasions why Harry would never make a decent
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Andres Segovia collaborated with a LOT of musicians outside of his
genre.
He even persuaded a lot of composers who wouldn't compose for the
guitar, to do so, one being the late Albert Harris.

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Here's an interesting collaboration from the category of "Whuh???"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCIyzNISw1Q- Hide quoted text -

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Exactly!