BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:

You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a national and
world-wide level.

I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove itself in
my life.

Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up at
the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they first
have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually the say not
thank you and get on their way.


You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the door
to door church people.

Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the President of
the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your door with the
intent on converting you to his religion?


Neither of those events concern me.

hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:

You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a national and
world-wide level.

I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove itself
in my life.

Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up at
the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they first
have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually the say not
thank you and get on their way.


You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the
door to door church people.

Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the President
of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your door with the
intent on converting you to his religion?


Neither of those events concern me.

Ok, what specific events concern you?

BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:

You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that need
it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a national and
world-wide level.

I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove itself
in my life.

Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up at
the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they first
have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually the say
not thank you and get on their way.


You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the
door to door church people.

Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the President
of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your door with the
intent on converting you to his religion?


Neither of those events concern me.

Ok, what specific events concern you?



There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.

hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:

You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a national
and
world-wide level.

I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove itself
in my life.

Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up at
the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they first
have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually the say
not thank you and get on their way.


You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the
door to door church people.

Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?


Neither of those events concern me.

Ok, what specific events concern you?



There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.

Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?

On Jan 26, 4:18*pm, wrote:
On Jan 25, 8:14*pm, wrote:





On Jan 25, 3:58*pm, Kippered wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:01:23 -0500, BAR wrote:
Kippered wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 13:12:51 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Kippered" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:27:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:09:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:39:28 -0500, Kippered
wrote:

I wouldn't go with a brand name like Dell, Gateway, or whatever.
There's a
computer shop down the road that will build them to order. I'll pay
the
extra hundred or two for them to do the work. I'll have to pick out
the
motherboard, etc, etc, etc. I'll ask for advice here, and some of the
experts will offer it.

Yeah. *And case advice too. *You need good case advice.

--Vic
Vic,
I thought the cases were fairly standard, and you just ordered them
based upon what motherboard you wanted to use and how many bays you
wanted to use.

Is there more to it?

Depends on your needs. *John said something about going inside and
messing with them. *If you're going to do that a lot (I've built about
10 PC's) you want a case that makes it easy. * If you're not, you
won't care, except you still want a quality power supply, the power
supply often being bundled with the case.
I prefer big honking cases that allow real easy parts replacements,
substitutions.
Here's the one for this computer, and my others are big variations.
I have plenty of work space.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16811165008R
Very easy to work with - massive and well thought.
I did a newegg review, but it looks like they discontinued the case
and the link is an "open box"
Think I paid $120 unpowered.

--Vic
Vic, here's a question for you. I've tried two different USB hubs.. When I
plug them in, Windows starts looking for drivers and can find none. I've
tried going back to the XP reinstall disk, but Windows can't find drivers
there either.

Any ideas?

Anyone can jump on this, BTW.
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

* * * * *John H
The two hubs you tried are they the same brand/model? *It's hard to believe
that the generic USB drivers included with XP will not work.

Are the hubs USB 1 or USB 2?

Try the hub manufacturer's web site for driver information.

Different brands. I'm thinking that maybe the driver files in XP may be
bad. They're USB2.

Maybe an upgrade to VISTA is needed

WOW! There's an idea!

Let's see..;.new card, $10.99.

Vista...$143.00

Vista frustration...Priceless.

I like the card idea better.
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

* * * * * John H- Hide quoted text -

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Soooo, who is actually having problems with Vista here. We have it all
over the place here on dual boot systems, and friends are running it,
no one has jumped out a window yet (pardon the pun. Anyway, anyone
here "running" vista actually had or having any problems cause my
expereince for basic home business and home computing has been fine?
Sorry if I did not read the bash threads, but any or you having
problems that you can report?- Hide quoted text -

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Hey, Scott, go back to the 29 things to be happy about thread, you've
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Yeah, maybey I am too sensitive...

BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:

You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.

I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.

Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.


You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the
door to door church people.

Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?


Neither of those events concern me.

Ok, what specific events concern you?



There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.

Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?


Let's see if you have any smarts...

I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.

Got it now?

On Jan 26, 5:16*pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:

You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.

I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.

Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.

You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the
door to door church people.

Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?

Neither of those events concern me.

Ok, what specific events concern you?

There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.

Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?

Let's see if you have any smarts...

I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.

Got it now?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or logic... I
get it...

wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the
door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...

I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.

Got it now?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or logic... I
get it...




No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given, people of
a certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious doctrine on
others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has
nothing to do with logic.

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:16:44 -0500, hk wrote:

BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:

You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.

I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.

Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.


You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the
door to door church people.

Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?


Neither of those events concern me.

Ok, what specific events concern you?



There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.

Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?


Let's see if you have any smarts...

I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.

Got it now?



"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

That's good, but Pro Life is bad. Right?
--
John H

On Jan 26, 5:31*pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the
door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...

I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.

Got it now?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or logic... I
get it...

* No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given, people of
a *certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious doctrine on
others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has
nothing to do with logic.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So tell us well heeled son, who has shoved religeon down your throat,
and what did it take to stop them? I mean, Vonage and Free Credit
Report.com try to give me a message every day, I don't mind, I just
don't pay attention. Have you ever been refused anything because you
were not willing to listen?