Harry Krause

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From: Harry Krause
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:57:02 -0500
Local: Thurs, Jan 3 2008 4:57 pm
Subject: Any help for failed VISTA SP1 upgrades?
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Clean install on a new machine.

You know, I'm a windoze fan and have been since the very beginning, but
I am damned sick and tired of being told time and again, no matter the
version, "just do a clean install."

No offense to you. Really.

It takes days and days to do that sort of thing, and even after that
there is no guarantee whatever problem you had will be resolved, or that
you won't unleash some new dragon.

The answer to this sort of horror lies with Microsoft. It simply is not
doing the job it ought to be doing with these operating systems. They're
too vulnerable, they are too hard to diagnose, their tech support sucks
on these matters. It's not just with a beta like SP1 RC, it's generally.

I'm no linux fan, but at least with linux you don't get the support you
didn't pay for, as it were. :}

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Bill Yanaire wrote:
You didn't say how you first got Vista on your machine. Do you have a new
PC? Did you do an upgrade? If you have tried updates and still have
problems with Vista crashing, sometimes it is better to do a clean install
and start over. You will spend less time in the long run by doing this.
Yes, it's a pain in the A$$, but it just might be the lesser of two evils.

Not what you want to hear but sometimes it is all you can do.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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This is what I get:

http://tinyurl.com/2tujwt

Error code 0x800736B3

I installed all the "pre" files properly and downloaded SP1.

Bombs out.

Also bombs when I try the download via VISTA Windows upgrade.

Nothing seems to download.

Any help for this?

Thanks

Vista_User wrote:
Harry Krause

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From: Harry Krause
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:57:02 -0500
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Clean install on a new machine.

You know, I'm a windoze fan and have been since the very beginning, but
I am damned sick and tired of being told time and again, no matter the
version, "just do a clean install."

No offense to you. Really.

It takes days and days to do that sort of thing, and even after that
there is no guarantee whatever problem you had will be resolved, or that
you won't unleash some new dragon.

The answer to this sort of horror lies with Microsoft. It simply is not
doing the job it ought to be doing with these operating systems. They're
too vulnerable, they are too hard to diagnose, their tech support sucks
on these matters. It's not just with a beta like SP1 RC, it's generally.

I'm no linux fan, but at least with linux you don't get the support you
didn't pay for, as it were. :}

Harry,
I hate to tell you this, but I told you this months ago. I do agree
with you: Vista Sucks.

You really have summed up my feelings when you said:

It takes days and days to do that sort of thing, and even after that
there is no guarantee whatever problem you had will be resolved, or
that you won't unleash some new dragon.

The answer to this sort of horror lies with Microsoft. It simply is not
doing the job it ought to be doing with these operating systems. They're
too vulnerable, they are too hard to diagnose, their tech support sucks
on these matters. It's not just with a beta like SP1 RC, it's generally.

JimH wrote:

Harry,
I hate to tell you this, but I told you this months ago. I do agree with
you: Vista Sucks.

You really have summed up my feelings when you said:

It takes days and days to do that sort of thing, and even after that
there is no guarantee whatever problem you had will be resolved, or that
you won't unleash some new dragon.

The answer to this sort of horror lies with Microsoft. It simply is not
doing the job it ought to be doing with these operating systems. They're
too vulnerable, they are too hard to diagnose, their tech support sucks
on these matters. It's not just with a beta like SP1 RC, it's generally.


Harry Krause is obviously in your head causing you to obsess about him 24x7.
Dark Side of the Moon?

JimH,

If you had checked with me before you purchased your laptop, it would be
running twice as fast as it is today:

New tests have revealed that Windows XP with the beta Service Pack 3 has
twice the performance of Vista, even with its long-awaited Service Pack 1.

Vista's first service pack, to be released early next year, is intended
to boost the operating system's performance. However, when Vista with
the Service Pack 1 (SP1) beta was put through benchmark testing by
researchers at Florida-based software development company Devil Mountain
Software, the improvement was not overwhelming, leaving the latest
Windows iteration outshined by its predecessor.

Vista, both with and without SP1, performed notably slower than XP with
SP3 in the test, taking over 80 seconds to complete the test, compared
to the beta SP3-enhanced XP's 35 seconds.

Vista's performance with the service pack increased less than 2 percent
compared to performance without SP1--much lower than XP's SP3
improvement of 10 percent. The tests, run on a Dell XPS M1710 test bed
with a 2GHz Core 2 Duo CPU and 1GB of RAM, put Microsoft Office 2007
through a set of productivity tasks, including creating a compound
document and supporting workbooks and presentation materials.

In response to the test, a Microsoft spokesperson said in a statement
that although the company understood the interest in the service packs,
they are "still in development" and will continue to evolve before their
release. "It has always been our goal to deliver service packs that meet
the full spectrum of customer needs," the spokesperson said.

If SP1 does not evolve sufficiently, it could be another setback for
Vista, with many businesses waiting to adopt the operating system until
the service pack is released.


A year after its launch, only 13 percent of businesses have adopted
Vista, according to a survey of IT professionals.

Microsoft admits that the launch has not gone as well as the company
would have liked. "Frankly, the world wasn't 100 percent ready for
Windows Vista," corporate vice president Mike Sievert said in a recent
interview at Microsoft's partner conference in Denver.

Microsoft has not done enough to make users aware of the benefits of
Vista, NPD analyst Chris Swenson said at the conference. "The problem is
that there are a lot of complex new features in Vista, and you need to
educate consumers about them...much like Apple educating the masses
about the possibilities of the iPhone or focusing on a single feature or
benefit of the Mac OS in the Mac-versus-PC commercials. Microsoft should
be educating the masses about the various new features in a heavy
rotation of Vista in TV, radio, and print ads. But the volume of ads
(for Vista) has paled in comparison to the ads run for XP."

XP has proved to be more popular than its younger sibling, with the
first six months of U.S. retail sales of box copies of Vista 59.7
percent below those of XP's in the equivalent period after its release.

Microsoft has had to allow PC manufacturers to continue to sell XP on
new PCs, setting a deadline for the last sale at January 31. However,
the pressure from manufacturers and consumers has been so great that
Microsoft has been forced to extend the deadline another five months,
until June.

According to Microsoft, sales of Vista have been picking up, with the
software giant reporting 88 million units sold

JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
n
The answer to this sort of horror lies with Microsoft. It simply is not
doing the job it ought to be doing with these operating systems. They're
too vulnerable, they are too hard to diagnose, their tech support sucks
on these matters. It's not just with a beta like SP1 RC, it's generally.


Harry Krause is obviously in your head causing you to obsess about him 24x7.
Dark Side of the Moon?




My tirade got the attention I knew it would from MS. This was a "beta"
upgrade to VISTA and apparently I was getting an error code no one else
was. The only downside was that the beta upgrade would not install. Got
a nice email today, telling me not to worry about it because after
sending in some files to MS and some logs, the "team" had figured out
the problem and that it would be "fixed." There's more to the
explanation, but this particular SmithersDungHoleisn't the place for
rational adult discussion. If you are interested, I'll be glad to
forward the email to you.

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:29:25 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
Vista_User wrote:
Harry Krause

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From: Harry Krause
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:57:02 -0500
Local: Thurs, Jan 3 2008 4:57 pm
Subject: Any help for failed VISTA SP1 upgrades?
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Clean install on a new machine.

You know, I'm a windoze fan and have been since the very beginning, but
I am damned sick and tired of being told time and again, no matter the
version, "just do a clean install."

No offense to you. Really.

It takes days and days to do that sort of thing, and even after that
there is no guarantee whatever problem you had will be resolved, or that
you won't unleash some new dragon.

The answer to this sort of horror lies with Microsoft. It simply is not
doing the job it ought to be doing with these operating systems. They're
too vulnerable, they are too hard to diagnose, their tech support sucks
on these matters. It's not just with a beta like SP1 RC, it's generally.

I'm no linux fan, but at least with linux you don't get the support you
didn't pay for, as it were. :}

Harry,
I hate to tell you this, but I told you this months ago. I do agree with
you: Vista Sucks.

You really have summed up my feelings when you said:

It takes days and days to do that sort of thing, and even after that
there is no guarantee whatever problem you had will be resolved, or that
you won't unleash some new dragon.

The answer to this sort of horror lies with Microsoft. It simply is not
doing the job it ought to be doing with these operating systems. They're
too vulnerable, they are too hard to diagnose, their tech support sucks
on these matters. It's not just with a beta like SP1 RC, it's generally.


Harry Krause is obviously in your head causing you to obsess about him 24x7.
Dark Side of the Moon?


A Visual Thesaurus - cool!

http://tinyurl.com/38oh6p
--
John H

JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:

Harry,
I hate to tell you this, but I told you this months ago. I do agree
with you: Vista Sucks.

You really have summed up my feelings when you said:

It takes days and days to do that sort of thing, and even after that
there is no guarantee whatever problem you had will be resolved, or
that you won't unleash some new dragon.

The answer to this sort of horror lies with Microsoft. It simply is not
doing the job it ought to be doing with these operating systems.
They're
too vulnerable, they are too hard to diagnose, their tech support sucks
on these matters. It's not just with a beta like SP1 RC, it's
generally.

Harry Krause is obviously in your head causing you to obsess about him
24x7. Dark Side of the Moon?
JimH,

If you had checked with me before you purchased your laptop............

That would be the last thing I would think of doing.

As I have stated from the getgo....... the laptop is not mine but my son's
and he has not experienced any problems with it.

Am I also now in your head? Dark Side of the Moon.


As I said, a laptop running WinXP will run twice as fast as the same
laptop running Vista. I have no problems if that is what you like, but
don't fool yourself into thinking you don't take a big hit when you use
Vista.

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:31:44 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

Microsoft admits that the launch has not gone as well as the company
would have liked. "Frankly, the world wasn't 100 percent ready for
Windows Vista," corporate vice president Mike Sievert said in a recent
interview at Microsoft's partner conference in Denver.

There's the problem...we're just not ready for it. If we were ready for it,
then it would be perfect.

What horse****.

When does XP's SP3 come out?
--
John H

Salmon Bait wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:31:44 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

Microsoft admits that the launch has not gone as well as the company
would have liked. "Frankly, the world wasn't 100 percent ready for
Windows Vista," corporate vice president Mike Sievert said in a recent
interview at Microsoft's partner conference in Denver.

There's the problem...we're just not ready for it. If we were ready for it,
then it would be perfect.

What horse****.

When does XP's SP3 come out?
In the 1st quarter of this year

--

Rick
Fargo, ND
N 46°53'251"
W 096°48'279"

Remember the USS Liberty

http://www.ussliberty.org/

On Jan 22, 6:38*pm, hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
n
*The answer to this sort of horror lies with Microsoft. It simply is not
*doing the job it ought to be doing with these operating systems. They're
*too vulnerable, they are too hard to diagnose, their tech support sucks
*on these matters. It's not just with a beta like SP1 RC, it's generally.

Harry Krause is obviously in your head causing you to obsess about him 24x7.
Dark Side of the Moon?

My tirade got the attention I knew it would from MS. This was a "beta"
upgrade to VISTA and apparently I was getting an error code no one else
was. The only downside was that the beta upgrade would not install. Got
a nice email today, telling me not to worry about it because after
sending in some files to MS and some logs, the "team" had figured out
the problem and that it would be "fixed." *There's more to the
explanation, but this particular SmithersDungHoleisn't the place for
rational adult discussion. If you are interested, I'll be glad to
forward the email to you.

Oh, yes, we all know that you are a very special person with
Microsoft, and they listen to everything you have to say.

On Jan 22, 6:52*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Salmon Bait" wrote in message

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On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:29:25 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
Vista_User wrote:
Harry Krause

* More options Jan 3, 4:57 pm
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From: Harry Krause
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:57:02 -0500
Local: Thurs, Jan 3 2008 4:57 pm
Subject: Any help for failed VISTA SP1 upgrades?
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Clean install on a new machine.

You know, I'm a windoze fan and have been since the very beginning, but
I am damned sick and tired of being told time and again, no matter the
version, "just do a clean install."

No offense to you. Really.

It takes days and days to do that sort of thing, and even after that
there is no guarantee whatever problem you had will be resolved, or
that
you won't unleash some new dragon.

The answer to this sort of horror lies with Microsoft. It simply is not
doing the job it ought to be doing with these operating systems.
They're
too vulnerable, they are too hard to diagnose, their tech support sucks
on these matters. It's not just with a beta like SP1 RC, it's
generally.

I'm no linux fan, but at least with linux you don't get the support you
didn't pay for, as it were. * :}

Harry,
I hate to tell you this, but I told you this months ago. *I do agree
with
you: *Vista Sucks.

You really have summed up my feelings when you said:

It takes days and days to do that sort of thing, and even after that
*there is no guarantee whatever problem you had will be resolved, or
that
you won't unleash some new dragon.

*The answer to this sort of horror lies with Microsoft. It simply is not
*doing the job it ought to be doing with these operating systems.
They're
*too vulnerable, they are too hard to diagnose, their tech support sucks
*on these matters. It's not just with a beta like SP1 RC, it's
generally.

Harry Krause is obviously in your head causing you to obsess about him
24x7.
Dark Side of the Moon?

A Visual Thesaurus - cool!

http://tinyurl.com/38oh6p
--
John H

Obviously I am also in your head 24x7 John.

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