On Jan 23, 3:33*pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
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On Jan 23, 2:54 pm, "D.Duck" wrote:





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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:28:31 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:59:44 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

Actually it's I-94 and Wisconsin 50, just a couple of miles north of
the
border. I haven't been there in probably 25 years but we started
eating
there in the '60s. Hwy 50 is the route we took to Camp Lake where we
had
a
home on the lake.

Just for fun I Goggled it, low and behold, it's still there after 46
years.

Three things I miss since leaving Chicago area are brats, good pizza
and
Italian beef sandwiches.

http://www.bratstop.com/contact.htm

If you do stop there, have a couple for me.

Thanks, I saved it. You've given me the idea to go to Kenosha
and maybe visit the waterfront. Real quick trip compared to going out
on I-90 to see farms.
You got that right about pizza and Italian beef. I hardly ate brats
until I moved to the suburbs. 'Cause I can't find decent pizza or
Italian beef nearby!

A couple of years ago my 90 year old Aunt in Arlington Hts became
terminally
ill. My brother, from Michigan and I both traveled there to be with her
as
she had no other family. The three weeks I was there much of our dining
was
on pizza and Italian beef. When I arrived home in Florida I jumped on
the
scale only to find I had gained 13 pounds.

Haven't found a decent pizza joint here. There have been a couple of
places
that opened and served pretty good Chicago style Italian beef but
neither
of
them lasted very long.

When I first moved to Florida I walked into a "Italian" pizza restaurant
and
ordered an Italian beef to go. They looked at me like I just fell out of
tree, they had never heard of such a thing. I didn't realize it's a
thing
pretty much unique to Chicago.

Yep.

Another "thing" is ordering pickle on your hot dog. Nice big fat
slice of pickle. And real mustard, not the crap mustard most hot dog
places have. Properly chunked spanish onions.

mmmmmm.....

You forgot the celery salt and tomato and sweet pickle relish and poppy
seed
bun and....- Hide quoted text -

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There's plenty of authentic ethnic foods in Florida. It's a whole
industry catering to snowbirds.

I don't know what type of ethnic food you are referring to, but other than
Latin *food stuffs in South Florida I haven't found a wide variety in my
time here. * I'm referring to the raw material to prepare for yourself at
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Uh, Florida is one of the largest beef cattle producing states there
is, for one thing. So if you can't get good beef there, I don't know
where you'd get it!

Here's a good place:
http://www.wrightsgourmet.com/Menus/Menus.asp

Toojay's is pretty decent too.

in Dunedin, FL is a great Italian beef place at Tampa Road and U.S.
Hwy 19. It's called Hott Dogg Heaven of all things, but has great
Chicago style dogs and Italian Beef

It sounds like you aren't in the Tampa area, but if you ever get up
there, there's some suggestions for you to try!

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:21:24 -0600, Vic Smith
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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:01:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
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Speaking of odd things you don't find except for (name the place)...

Frozen custard.

There's a place out on Greenfield Ave and W. 57th (I'm doing this by
memory - it's been a while) in West Allis that has hand made frozen
custard. My favorite is French Vanilla second to coffee.

To freakin' die for.

I seem to remember eating that once, though I've only been there for
the state fair. The local "delicacy" I always remember hearing about
is that Michigan pastie. Just something about that name gets me
hungry.

Finnish meat pie. Hearty and made with stew beef, potatos, carrots,
onions and other goodies.

Unreal - just flat out delicious.

JimH wrote:
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On Jan 23, 3:33 pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
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There's plenty of authentic ethnic foods in Florida. It's a whole
industry catering to snowbirds.
==================================
I don't know what type of ethnic food you are referring to, but other than
Latin food stuffs in South Florida I haven't found a wide variety in my
time here. I'm referring to the raw material to prepare for yourself at
home.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Uh, Florida is one of the largest beef cattle producing states there
is, for one thing. So if you can't get good beef there, I don't know
where you'd get it!

Here's a good place:
http://www.wrightsgourmet.com/Menus/Menus.asp

=======================

Did you favor the grilled cheese or PB&J sandwich at Wrights Deli?

BTW: How do they "produce" beef cattle in Florida?




Publix Supermarkets in Florida carry a wide variety of ethnic foods, and
in south Florida, there are all sorts of local food stores catering to
various ethnic groups.

What I found difficult to find when I lived in Florida were stores
selling decent bread. Too many variations of Wonder white bread, which
isn't fit for human consumption. Maybe that has changed.

JimH wrote:

Uh, Florida is one of the largest beef cattle producing states there
is, for one thing. So if you can't get good beef there, I don't know
where you'd get it!

Here's a good place:
http://www.wrightsgourmet.com/Menus/Menus.asp


Florida raises more cattle than Texas.

Eisboch

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:18:04 -0500, hk wrote:

While I
do expect this country to collapse into class warfare, I don't believe
it will happen in my lifetime, though I think the time is getting closer
as the gap between the "haves" and "have nots" widens.

I'll tell you what - if the Clinton's don't start a race war, Obama
will start a class war.

Watch and see.


Ol' Bill is caught between a rock and a hard place. He and his sidekick are
showing their true colors.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:18:04 -0500, hk wrote:

While I
do expect this country to collapse into class warfare, I don't believe
it will happen in my lifetime, though I think the time is getting closer
as the gap between the "haves" and "have nots" widens.
I'll tell you what - if the Clinton's don't start a race war, Obama
will start a class war.

Watch and see.


Ol' Bill is caught between a rock and a hard place. He and his sidekick are
showing their true colors.

Eisboch



What? That they won't roll over and play kissyface and holdyhand with
the Saudis while Cheney et al rob the country blind?

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:

Uh, Florida is one of the largest beef cattle producing states there
is, for one thing. So if you can't get good beef there, I don't know
where you'd get it!

Here's a good place:
http://www.wrightsgourmet.com/Menus/Menus.asp


Florida raises more cattle than Texas.

Eisboch

No doubt a lot of cattle are raised down here. But, I think the feeding is
not like up in the Midwest, lots of corn. One of the first things I noticed
when moving here in the early 90s was the "quality" and variety of meats
from what I was used to in Chicago. Marbling in beef, just about
non-existent down here.

Maybe things have changed in Chicago by now.

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On Jan 23, 3:33 pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
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On Jan 23, 2:54 pm, "D.Duck" wrote:





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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:28:31 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:59:44 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

Actually it's I-94 and Wisconsin 50, just a couple of miles north of
the
border. I haven't been there in probably 25 years but we started
eating
there in the '60s. Hwy 50 is the route we took to Camp Lake where we
had
a
home on the lake.

Just for fun I Goggled it, low and behold, it's still there after 46
years.

Three things I miss since leaving Chicago area are brats, good pizza
and
Italian beef sandwiches.

http://www.bratstop.com/contact.htm

If you do stop there, have a couple for me.

Thanks, I saved it. You've given me the idea to go to Kenosha
and maybe visit the waterfront. Real quick trip compared to going
out
on I-90 to see farms.
You got that right about pizza and Italian beef. I hardly ate brats
until I moved to the suburbs. 'Cause I can't find decent pizza or
Italian beef nearby!

A couple of years ago my 90 year old Aunt in Arlington Hts became
terminally
ill. My brother, from Michigan and I both traveled there to be with
her
as
she had no other family. The three weeks I was there much of our
dining
was
on pizza and Italian beef. When I arrived home in Florida I jumped on
the
scale only to find I had gained 13 pounds.

Haven't found a decent pizza joint here. There have been a couple of
places
that opened and served pretty good Chicago style Italian beef but
neither
of
them lasted very long.

When I first moved to Florida I walked into a "Italian" pizza
restaurant
and
ordered an Italian beef to go. They looked at me like I just fell out
of
tree, they had never heard of such a thing. I didn't realize it's a
thing
pretty much unique to Chicago.

Yep.

Another "thing" is ordering pickle on your hot dog. Nice big fat
slice of pickle. And real mustard, not the crap mustard most hot dog
places have. Properly chunked spanish onions.

mmmmmm.....

You forgot the celery salt and tomato and sweet pickle relish and poppy
seed
bun and....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

There's plenty of authentic ethnic foods in Florida. It's a whole
industry catering to snowbirds.

I don't know what type of ethnic food you are referring to, but other than
Latin food stuffs in South Florida I haven't found a wide variety in my
time here. I'm referring to the raw material to prepare for yourself at
home.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Uh, Florida is one of the largest beef cattle producing states there
is, for one thing. So if you can't get good beef there, I don't know
where you'd get it!

Here's a good place:
http://www.wrightsgourmet.com/Menus/Menus.asp

Toojay's is pretty decent too.

in Dunedin, FL is a great Italian beef place at Tampa Road and U.S.
Hwy 19. It's called Hott Dogg Heaven of all things, but has great
Chicago style dogs and Italian Beef

It sounds like you aren't in the Tampa area, but if you ever get up
there, there's some suggestions for you to try!

=================================

I get over to the Tampa area (Dunedin) on occasion. I'll make a note Hot
Dog Heaven in my GPS. Next time over there I'll try to remember to stop and
give it a try.

All beef is not created equal. I think the feeding schedule of Florida
cattle is different that up North. It takes lots of corn to get good
marbling for the most tender and tasty cuts.

"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:18:04 -0500, hk wrote:

While I
do expect this country to collapse into class warfare, I don't believe
it will happen in my lifetime, though I think the time is getting
closer
as the gap between the "haves" and "have nots" widens.
I'll tell you what - if the Clinton's don't start a race war, Obama
will start a class war.

Watch and see.


Ol' Bill is caught between a rock and a hard place. He and his sidekick
are showing their true colors.

Eisboch

What? That they won't roll over and play kissyface and holdyhand with the
Saudis while Cheney et al rob the country blind?

I'll bet he's referring to the C's campaign tactics.

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:24:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:18:04 -0500, hk wrote:

While I
do expect this country to collapse into class warfare, I don't believe
it will happen in my lifetime, though I think the time is getting closer
as the gap between the "haves" and "have nots" widens.

I'll tell you what - if the Clinton's don't start a race war, Obama
will start a class war.

Watch and see.

Ol' Bill is caught between a rock and a hard place. He and his sidekick are
showing their true colors.

It's becoming more and more apparent that Hillary is just the front
for another Bill Clinton Presidency.

Obama is going to beat her for the nomination, but it's going to get
really nasty - and Hillary does nasty very well.