On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:31:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:



It is not uncommon to see videos of cars in the north driving on ice and
sliding into each other, completely out of control.

I don't think anyone can safely drive in this stuff:

No difference in drivers. Driving in normal snow is pretty much like
driving in gravel. Once ice is under your tires, don't matter where
you're from. Up here they get the salt spread quickly, and that's the
difference.

--Vic

"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
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Canuck57 wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
You getting snow or rain?

My boy just called me after night patrol - cussin' and cursin' about
crazy drivers.

I had to remind him that not all people have dealt with snow. :)
SWS,
It is raining now, but it will probably snow later today. The problem
with southern drivers and snow, goes beyond the fact they are
inexperienced driving on snow and the fact that the state does not have
the equipment to clear the roads. The snow in the south is normally a
very wet icy snow covering a sheet of ice. Forget about driving, it is
unsafe to walk on the stuff.

The last real blizzard we had in Atlanta (about 1983)they had news
coverage of cars stopped on the expressway. They were not moving at
all, yet they were slowly sliding off the expressway due to the crown of
the road.

I have spent a lot of time driving in upstate NY, and New England, and
their is no comparison between driving in your snow and our snow. When
you add inexperience southerners who very rarely drive in snow and
northern drivers who think they know how to drive on snow, you are in a
world of hurt.

Does not Wisconsin and Minnesota get the ice sheet rain followed with
snow? Driven on lots of that.

But point heard, even if you know how to drive it, have good tires
(winter or all seasons) and a 4x4 you need to ask, can the other guy
drive it. Best to park it in a safe place, stay home or stay put.

It is not uncommon to see videos of cars in the north driving on ice and
sliding into each other, completely out of control.

I don't think anyone can safely drive in this stuff:

http://tinyurl.com/23dnll

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=2

Yep, that video is a hoot to watch!

Here is another, note how they lock their wheels, probably bald summer
radials and of all things bail out onto the road! Lucky no one rolled over
them.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BM2gLjfE_3Y

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
You getting snow or rain?

My boy just called me after night patrol - cussin' and cursin' about
crazy drivers.

I had to remind him that not all people have dealt with snow. :)

SWS,
It is raining now, but it will probably snow later today. The problem
with southern drivers and snow, goes beyond the fact they are
inexperienced driving on snow and the fact that the state does not have
the equipment to clear the roads. The snow in the south is normally a
very wet icy snow covering a sheet of ice. Forget about driving, it is
unsafe to walk on the stuff.

The last real blizzard we had in Atlanta (about 1983)they had news
coverage of cars stopped on the expressway. They were not moving at all,
yet they were slowly sliding off the expressway due to the crown of the
road.

I have spent a lot of time driving in upstate NY, and New England, and
their is no comparison between driving in your snow and our snow. When
you add inexperience southerners who very rarely drive in snow and
northern drivers who think they know how to drive on snow, you are in a
world of hurt.

Does not Wisconsin and Minnesota get the ice sheet rain followed with
snow? Driven on lots of that.

But point heard, even if you know how to drive it, have good tires (winter
or all seasons) and a 4x4 you need to ask, can the other guy drive it.
Best to park it in a safe place, stay home or stay put.


worse thing about snow is mini truck 4x4 drivers. They all think they can
drive just like dry pavement because of the 4x4. Years ago, I-80 over the
sierras rarely closed. Gets closed a lot now as the chain control in effect
signs say the speed limit is 25. The import 4x4's go 70 and cause
horrendous crashes. so when it is bad and if you slowed down with chains or
4x4 and snow tires, all would be ok, they just close the highway now.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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You getting snow or rain?

My boy just called me after night patrol - cussin' and cursin' about
crazy drivers.

I had to remind him that not all people have dealt with snow. :)

I had the camper and was up near Sacramento last night. About slid on my
tush on a ramp as was covered with ice. Boat cover has some ice also. Went
to the Sacramento Sport show today. Yesterday went boating and fishing. No
bass, and the bass guys were pretty much showing zeros also. Did troll the
lake for trout and king salmon. A lot of 12" salmon in Lake Oroville.
Caught and released a few, kept one for dinner that was motally hooked.
Took the boat up for some work estimate. Bad chine. Last time I crushed it
on a gravel bar, they welded on a new one crooked. Boat pulls to the left.
Was going to fish the Feather River for Steelhead but river dropped about 6'
in 3 days. Lake Oroville is down about 200', using the low water ramp,
which is to the side of one of the 12 lane ramps. The nice 12 lane stops
about 15' above water level. Still 400' of water in the lake, just smaller
surface area.

wrote:
On Jan 19, 11:58 am, Red Herring
wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:48:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Jan 19, 8:15 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
You getting snow or rain?
My boy just called me after night patrol - cussin' and cursin' about
crazy drivers.
I had to remind him that not all people have dealt with snow. :)
We are going to get 3 or more inches today in the Atlanta area, it's
been raining, and there is a Arctic cold front ramming south, so the
scenario is the rain will freeze on the roadways, then it will snow on
top of that!
Round up a bunch of bucket loaders and put the stuff in Lake Lanier!
--
Red Herring

It'll get there, but not today or tonight. It's supposed to get down
to 18F tonight! It's snowing like mad right now!

Damn global warming...