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"BAR" wrote in message
. ..


Shouldn't you have put "Got it" in capitals letters? If you did it would
have had more emphasis and I could have ignored it with greater
enthusiasm. Krause you have marginalized yourself and you are on the bring
of becoming completely marginalized. You look for acceptance and
acknowledgement from Tom and Richard every day. It must be a sad life to
live having to be validated by others.


Now, now. It *is* possible to have civil discussions with people you have
disagreements with or completely different points of view. It's normally a
healthy exercise but if you get sick of it, you just drop the subject and
agree to disagree. If I were being called all kinds of names just because
of my POV, there *would* not be any discussion.

Eisboch

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"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:35:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
om...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

These same "folks" are perfectly OK with the honor of seeing our
soldiers die while invading the wrong country. Human life is
sacred.
Horse ****.


An unborn child has no control or choice and the decision is made by
others based on what *they* think.
A volunteer soldier is one by *his/her* choice and understands (or
should) the risks and requirements of the job.

Eisboch


Once a soldier's in the service, he has a choice of going where he's
told, or getting in trouble, right? That's not a choice, unless AWOL
is
considered a good choice.


You obviously don't understand the concept of a military.
You don't pick and choose your duty and that is clearly understood
before you raise your right hand.
You are required to obey any "lawful" order. So there's your debate
...
is being ordered to Iraq a lawful order or not.
If our banana heads in Congress can't determine that, how the hell
does
a lowly Private decide?

Eisboch



The soldier joins by choice. The soldier has no legal choice about the
mission he might end up with. He could end up spending the whole time
in
service training for a war that never happens. Or, he could be sent
into
the wrong mission. At that moment, he is no different from the unborn
child. He has no choice.


Strange logic.

A soldier joins by choice fully understanding (theoretically anyway)
that
he/she will have very limited choices during the duration of his/her
service. Military service includes a suspension of many "rights" that a
civilian has and military personnel know that going in. An unborn child
knows nothing and can't make a choice.

Eisboch


Oh well. The analogy makes sense to me.


Was it 'perfect'?

That 'anal-ogy' was just that. About as stupid as ****. Eisboch's just too
damn nice to say it.

Do you really think the friggin' soldier joining today doesn't think he
'might' go to Iraq?
--
John H


You never saw me make such a claim. If you disagree, find the text which
proves what you say, and copy it into your next reply.

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:55:25 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:46:02 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message


You mean the paper stickums or a computer version?
If it's on the PC, where can I get it, and what do you use it for?
I could use some "reminder" type deal.
Putting a string on my finger hurts after a while.

--Vic

http://www.3m.com/us/office/postit/d...tal_notes.html

Thanks! I've installed the trial version.

--Vic



Please report back about how you like it.

I didn't. It's gone.

--Vic

Why?

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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:28:18 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:55:25 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:46:02 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message


You mean the paper stickums or a computer version?
If it's on the PC, where can I get it, and what do you use it for?
I could use some "reminder" type deal.
Putting a string on my finger hurts after a while.

--Vic

http://www.3m.com/us/office/postit/d...tal_notes.html

Thanks! I've installed the trial version.

--Vic



Please report back about how you like it.

I didn't. It's gone.

--Vic

Why?

Non-intuitive, which turned me off right away.
I went ahead and dug in, but when I saw it corrupting my
screen and leaving artifacts, I dumped it.
Looking for a PIM with good calendar and alarms now.
Actually missing Outlook a bit.

--Vic

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:28:18 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:55:25 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:46:02 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message


You mean the paper stickums or a computer version?
If it's on the PC, where can I get it, and what do you use it for?
I could use some "reminder" type deal.
Putting a string on my finger hurts after a while.

--Vic

http://www.3m.com/us/office/postit/d...tal_notes.html

Thanks! I've installed the trial version.

--Vic



Please report back about how you like it.

I didn't. It's gone.

--Vic

Why?

Non-intuitive, which turned me off right away.
I went ahead and dug in, but when I saw it corrupting my
screen and leaving artifacts, I dumped it.
Looking for a PIM with good calendar and alarms now.
Actually missing Outlook a bit.

--Vic


There's a product called Act! that's been around forever. Might be overkill
depending on your needs, but it's loaded with features. I've been using it
since its DOS version in 1989 or so.

http://www.act.com/

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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:39:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:



There's a product called Act! that's been around forever. Might be overkill
depending on your needs, but it's loaded with features. I've been using it
since its DOS version in 1989 or so.

http://www.act.com/

Thanks. Looked. It's overkill for me.

--Vic

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:39:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:



There's a product called Act! that's been around forever. Might be
overkill
depending on your needs, but it's loaded with features. I've been using it
since its DOS version in 1989 or so.

http://www.act.com/

Thanks. Looked. It's overkill for me.

--Vic


It's a weird product category. There aren't that many vendors trying to
compete with Outlook, which is essentially free. There are a few, though:

http://www.pcmag.com/products/0%2C%2...ts&stpdinglp=1

or

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2pn7jn

My problem with Outlook 2000 was that it had no place for adding written
notes that were connected with a contact.

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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:07:06 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


It's a weird product category. There aren't that many vendors trying to
compete with Outlook, which is essentially free. There are a few, though:

Yes, especially if you're picky. I'm reviewing some, have discarded
others. A lot is look and feel, but I want to migrate my addresses -
all personal now - from my old VB app from circa Win95 days, which is
actually a nice address book with plenty of note space. Doesn't have
any calendar or alarm functionality to speak of, and it won't export
data either. Many of the type of app I'm looking for have all kinds
of stuff I don't want.

My problem with Outlook 2000 was that it had no place for adding written
notes that were connected with a contact.

Right. It was real good for scheduling though. I looked at the
Outlook Express on my PC, and the address book looks the same as
Outlook's, but it doesn't even have a calendar.
I'll let you know when I find a calendar/contacts/alarm combo I like.
'Course that'll be just what works for me.

--Vic

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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:22:32 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"BAR" wrote in message
...


Shouldn't you have put "Got it" in capitals letters? If you did it would
have had more emphasis and I could have ignored it with greater
enthusiasm. Krause you have marginalized yourself and you are on the bring
of becoming completely marginalized. You look for acceptance and
acknowledgement from Tom and Richard every day. It must be a sad life to
live having to be validated by others.


Now, now. It *is* possible to have civil discussions with people you have
disagreements with or completely different points of view. It's normally a
healthy exercise but if you get sick of it, you just drop the subject and
agree to disagree. If I were being called all kinds of names just because
of my POV, there *would* not be any discussion.

10-4.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:22:32 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Shouldn't you have put "Got it" in capitals letters? If you did it would
have had more emphasis and I could have ignored it with greater
enthusiasm. Krause you have marginalized yourself and you are on the bring
of becoming completely marginalized. You look for acceptance and
acknowledgement from Tom and Richard every day. It must be a sad life to
live having to be validated by others.

Now, now. It *is* possible to have civil discussions with people you have
disagreements with or completely different points of view. It's normally a
healthy exercise but if you get sick of it, you just drop the subject and
agree to disagree. If I were being called all kinds of names just because
of my POV, there *would* not be any discussion.

10-4.


Tom, Tom, Tom.... puh-lease accept me! :}

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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:08:53 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:22:32 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Shouldn't you have put "Got it" in capitals letters? If you did it would
have had more emphasis and I could have ignored it with greater
enthusiasm. Krause you have marginalized yourself and you are on the bring
of becoming completely marginalized. You look for acceptance and
acknowledgement from Tom and Richard every day. It must be a sad life to
live having to be validated by others.

Now, now. It *is* possible to have civil discussions with people you have
disagreements with or completely different points of view. It's normally a
healthy exercise but if you get sick of it, you just drop the subject and
agree to disagree. If I were being called all kinds of names just because
of my POV, there *would* not be any discussion.

10-4.

Tom, Tom, Tom.... puh-lease accept me! :}

Kiss my rosy red a....

er...

Never mind. :)

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:07:06 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


It's a weird product category. There aren't that many vendors trying to
compete with Outlook, which is essentially free. There are a few, though:

Yes, especially if you're picky. I'm reviewing some, have discarded
others. A lot is look and feel, but I want to migrate my addresses -
all personal now - from my old VB app from circa Win95 days, which is
actually a nice address book with plenty of note space. Doesn't have
any calendar or alarm functionality to speak of, and it won't export
data either. Many of the type of app I'm looking for have all kinds
of stuff I don't want.

My problem with Outlook 2000 was that it had no place for adding written
notes that were connected with a contact.

Right. It was real good for scheduling though. I looked at the
Outlook Express on my PC, and the address book looks the same as
Outlook's, but it doesn't even have a calendar.
I'll let you know when I find a calendar/contacts/alarm combo I like.
'Course that'll be just what works for me.

--Vic


Be very careful if you ever try and share contacts between Outlook and
Outlook Express. They store the data differently, and although you won't
lose data, you will end up banging your head on the desk and wishing you
hadn't rocked the boat.

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:07:06 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


It's a weird product category. There aren't that many vendors trying to
compete with Outlook, which is essentially free. There are a few, though:

Yes, especially if you're picky. I'm reviewing some, have discarded
others. A lot is look and feel, but I want to migrate my addresses -
all personal now - from my old VB app from circa Win95 days, which is
actually a nice address book with plenty of note space. Doesn't have
any calendar or alarm functionality to speak of, and it won't export
data either. Many of the type of app I'm looking for have all kinds
of stuff I don't want.
My problem with Outlook 2000 was that it had no place for adding written
notes that were connected with a contact.

Right. It was real good for scheduling though. I looked at the
Outlook Express on my PC, and the address book looks the same as
Outlook's, but it doesn't even have a calendar.
I'll let you know when I find a calendar/contacts/alarm combo I like.
'Course that'll be just what works for me.

--Vic


Be very careful if you ever try and share contacts between Outlook and
Outlook Express. They store the data differently, and although you won't
lose data, you will end up banging your head on the desk and wishing you
hadn't rocked the boat.




There are lots of PIMs available. The problem is, you have to sorta look
through them all to find one that has the features you like and an
interface that works the way you want.

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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:46:19 -0500, HK wrote:



There are lots of PIMs available. The problem is, you have to sorta look
through them all to find one that has the features you like and an
interface that works the way you want.

Tell me about it.

--Vic

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:39:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


There's a product called Act! that's been around forever. Might be overkill
depending on your needs, but it's loaded with features. I've been using it
since its DOS version in 1989 or so.

http://www.act.com/

Thanks. Looked. It's overkill for me.

--Vic

I have Outlook, but really wanted a small program to run in the
background. I looked at the $20 Post-It notes, and it was nice, but I
thought their must be a similar freeware product.

You can go to Download.com and download Post-It Notes Lite, which is
their freeware version. It does everything I needed, and is very easy
to use.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:22:32 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Shouldn't you have put "Got it" in capitals letters? If you did it would
have had more emphasis and I could have ignored it with greater
enthusiasm. Krause you have marginalized yourself and you are on the bring
of becoming completely marginalized. You look for acceptance and
acknowledgement from Tom and Richard every day. It must be a sad life to
live having to be validated by others.

Now, now. It *is* possible to have civil discussions with people you have
disagreements with or completely different points of view. It's normally a
healthy exercise but if you get sick of it, you just drop the subject and
agree to disagree. If I were being called all kinds of names just because
of my POV, there *would* not be any discussion.

10-4.

F*uck You, what do you know, you are a f*ucking Martian. ;)

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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:28:26 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:39:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


There's a product called Act! that's been around forever. Might be overkill
depending on your needs, but it's loaded with features. I've been using it
since its DOS version in 1989 or so.

http://www.act.com/

Thanks. Looked. It's overkill for me.

--Vic

I have Outlook, but really wanted a small program to run in the
background. I looked at the $20 Post-It notes, and it was nice, but I
thought their must be a similar freeware product.

You can go to Download.com and download Post-It Notes Lite, which is
their freeware version. It does everything I needed, and is very easy
to use.

Thanks. I've decided to go to an integrated address
book/calendar/alarm app. Just have to find it.
I swear I could write just what I need, because I would admire the
author's judgement and skill.
But it would probably take me a couple months and more money to do it.
I've d/l'ed, installed, uninstalled about 10 so far, and am still
looking. When I find one I like, I'll recommend it.
Might give one I rejected a second look, since they aren't getting any
better.

--Vic

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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:27:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:35:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:TL6dnaaoqIU_hRHanZ2dnUVZ_ternZ2d@giganews. com...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

These same "folks" are perfectly OK with the honor of seeing our
soldiers die while invading the wrong country. Human life is
sacred.
Horse ****.


An unborn child has no control or choice and the decision is made by
others based on what *they* think.
A volunteer soldier is one by *his/her* choice and understands (or
should) the risks and requirements of the job.

Eisboch


Once a soldier's in the service, he has a choice of going where he's
told, or getting in trouble, right? That's not a choice, unless AWOL
is
considered a good choice.


You obviously don't understand the concept of a military.
You don't pick and choose your duty and that is clearly understood
before you raise your right hand.
You are required to obey any "lawful" order. So there's your debate
...
is being ordered to Iraq a lawful order or not.
If our banana heads in Congress can't determine that, how the hell
does
a lowly Private decide?

Eisboch



The soldier joins by choice. The soldier has no legal choice about the
mission he might end up with. He could end up spending the whole time
in
service training for a war that never happens. Or, he could be sent
into
the wrong mission. At that moment, he is no different from the unborn
child. He has no choice.


Strange logic.

A soldier joins by choice fully understanding (theoretically anyway)
that
he/she will have very limited choices during the duration of his/her
service. Military service includes a suspension of many "rights" that a
civilian has and military personnel know that going in. An unborn child
knows nothing and can't make a choice.

Eisboch


Oh well. The analogy makes sense to me.


Was it 'perfect'?

That 'anal-ogy' was just that. About as stupid as ****. Eisboch's just too
damn nice to say it.

Do you really think the friggin' soldier joining today doesn't think he
'might' go to Iraq?
--
John H


You never saw me make such a claim. If you disagree, find the text which
proves what you say, and copy it into your next reply.


Eisboch made it very clear. Reread what he wrote.
--
John H

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"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:27:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:35:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:TL6dnaaoqIU_hRHanZ2dnUVZ_ternZ2d@giganews .com...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

These same "folks" are perfectly OK with the honor of seeing our
soldiers die while invading the wrong country. Human life is
sacred.
Horse ****.


An unborn child has no control or choice and the decision is made
by
others based on what *they* think.
A volunteer soldier is one by *his/her* choice and understands (or
should) the risks and requirements of the job.

Eisboch


Once a soldier's in the service, he has a choice of going where
he's
told, or getting in trouble, right? That's not a choice, unless
AWOL
is
considered a good choice.


You obviously don't understand the concept of a military.
You don't pick and choose your duty and that is clearly understood
before you raise your right hand.
You are required to obey any "lawful" order. So there's your debate
...
is being ordered to Iraq a lawful order or not.
If our banana heads in Congress can't determine that, how the hell
does
a lowly Private decide?

Eisboch



The soldier joins by choice. The soldier has no legal choice about
the
mission he might end up with. He could end up spending the whole time
in
service training for a war that never happens. Or, he could be sent
into
the wrong mission. At that moment, he is no different from the unborn
child. He has no choice.


Strange logic.

A soldier joins by choice fully understanding (theoretically anyway)
that
he/she will have very limited choices during the duration of his/her
service. Military service includes a suspension of many "rights" that
a
civilian has and military personnel know that going in. An unborn
child
knows nothing and can't make a choice.

Eisboch


Oh well. The analogy makes sense to me.


Was it 'perfect'?

That 'anal-ogy' was just that. About as stupid as ****. Eisboch's just
too
damn nice to say it.

Do you really think the friggin' soldier joining today doesn't think he
'might' go to Iraq?
--
John H


You never saw me make such a claim. If you disagree, find the text which
proves what you say, and copy it into your next reply.


Eisboch made it very clear. Reread what he wrote.
--
John H


Read for comprehension. I never said what you think I said.

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On Jan 15, 7:43*am, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:14:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:42:01 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:03:58 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.
How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?
I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they
don't try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular
society. No ayatollahs need apply.
But you believe that it's perfectly ok to impose your secular beliefs
on me correct?
But I don't.
Got 'cha.

And no, I don't.
I said I got 'cha - jeeze... *:)

If you (and I don't mean you) don't want to help a woman friend get
an abortion, why...don't. Got it?
Ah, but if I were an OB/GYN, as I understand the law via a DIL who is
an OB/GYN (and I readily admit that may be state law, not Federal),
I'd be required to do that even if it were against my personal
religious belief.

If you (and I don't mean you)...

How come Eisboch and SWS get this little expression attached and the rest
of us don't?

Harry, you wouldn't be a suck up, would you?

You've noticed that too!

Neither Eisboch nor Tom are or ever have been a**holes. You and that
chunk of toe cheese - Herring - are. Got it?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Why, because they use smiley faces?

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"HK" wrote in message
...

Neither Eisboch nor Tom are or ever have been a**holes. You and that chunk
of toe cheese - Herring - are. Got it?

Oh oh! Now our Johnny 'Child' will be looking for a recipe for that.

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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:29:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:22:32 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Shouldn't you have put "Got it" in capitals letters? If you did it would
have had more emphasis and I could have ignored it with greater
enthusiasm. Krause you have marginalized yourself and you are on the bring
of becoming completely marginalized. You look for acceptance and
acknowledgement from Tom and Richard every day. It must be a sad life to
live having to be validated by others.

Now, now. It *is* possible to have civil discussions with people you have
disagreements with or completely different points of view. It's normally a
healthy exercise but if you get sick of it, you just drop the subject and
agree to disagree. If I were being called all kinds of names just because
of my POV, there *would* not be any discussion.

10-4.

F*uck You, what do you know, you are a f*ucking Martian. ;)

Am not.

I am Sovereign Protector of The Universe, Preeminent Most High and
Holy Galactic Overlord, Emperor of Omicron Persei VIII, Exalted Ruler
and Protector of all things Big and Small - Land, Sea, and Space,
Cardinal Commander of the Universal Army, Navy and Marines, Conqueror
of All That Can Be Surveyed, The Light that outshines The Sun, His
Most Supreme Majesty Shortwave.

You and you only may call me Your Excellency for short.

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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:25:12 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...

Neither Eisboch nor Tom are or ever have been a**holes. You and that chunk
of toe cheese - Herring - are. Got it?

Oh oh! Now our Johnny 'Child' will be looking for a recipe for that.

MMMMMM - toe cheese...

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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:02:09 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:27:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:35:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:TL6dnaaoqIU_hRHanZ2dnUVZ_ternZ2d@giganew s.com...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

These same "folks" are perfectly OK with the honor of seeing our
soldiers die while invading the wrong country. Human life is
sacred.
Horse ****.


An unborn child has no control or choice and the decision is made
by
others based on what *they* think.
A volunteer soldier is one by *his/her* choice and understands (or
should) the risks and requirements of the job.

Eisboch


Once a soldier's in the service, he has a choice of going where
he's
told, or getting in trouble, right? That's not a choice, unless
AWOL
is
considered a good choice.


You obviously don't understand the concept of a military.
You don't pick and choose your duty and that is clearly understood
before you raise your right hand.
You are required to obey any "lawful" order. So there's your debate
...
is being ordered to Iraq a lawful order or not.
If our banana heads in Congress can't determine that, how the hell
does
a lowly Private decide?

Eisboch



The soldier joins by choice. The soldier has no legal choice about
the
mission he might end up with. He could end up spending the whole time
in
service training for a war that never happens. Or, he could be sent
into
the wrong mission. At that moment, he is no different from the unborn
child. He has no choice.


Strange logic.

A soldier joins by choice fully understanding (theoretically anyway)
that
he/she will have very limited choices during the duration of his/her
service. Military service includes a suspension of many "rights" that
a
civilian has and military personnel know that going in. An unborn
child
knows nothing and can't make a choice.

Eisboch


Oh well. The analogy makes sense to me.


Was it 'perfect'?

That 'anal-ogy' was just that. About as stupid as ****. Eisboch's just
too
damn nice to say it.

Do you really think the friggin' soldier joining today doesn't think he
'might' go to Iraq?
--
John H


You never saw me make such a claim. If you disagree, find the text which
proves what you say, and copy it into your next reply.


Eisboch made it very clear. Reread what he wrote.
--
John H


Read for comprehension. I never said what you think I said.


You heard me. And I don't need to do any personal attacking.
--
John H

Install or not install...
 

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:32:03 -0500, WaIIy wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:36:06 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Non-intuitive, which turned me off right away.
I went ahead and dug in, but when I saw it corrupting my
screen and leaving artifacts, I dumped it.
Looking for a PIM with good calendar and alarms now.
Actually missing Outlook a bit.

--Vic

Try -

http://www.essentialpim.com/

Already did. Managed to freeze that one.

--Vic

Install or not install...
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:32:03 -0500, WaIIy wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:36:06 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Non-intuitive, which turned me off right away.
I went ahead and dug in, but when I saw it corrupting my
screen and leaving artifacts, I dumped it.
Looking for a PIM with good calendar and alarms now.
Actually missing Outlook a bit.

--Vic

Try -

http://www.essentialpim.com/

Already did. Managed to freeze that one.

--Vic


Meaning, the program locked up? And the 3M post-it thing did weird things
to your screen?

Install or not install...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:29:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:22:32 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Shouldn't you have put "Got it" in capitals letters? If you did it would
have had more emphasis and I could have ignored it with greater
enthusiasm. Krause you have marginalized yourself and you are on the bring
of becoming completely marginalized. You look for acceptance and
acknowledgement from Tom and Richard every day. It must be a sad life to
live having to be validated by others.

Now, now. It *is* possible to have civil discussions with people you have
disagreements with or completely different points of view. It's normally a
healthy exercise but if you get sick of it, you just drop the subject and
agree to disagree. If I were being called all kinds of names just because
of my POV, there *would* not be any discussion.
10-4.
F*uck You, what do you know, you are a f*ucking Martian. ;)

Am not.

I am Sovereign Protector of The Universe, Preeminent Most High and
Holy Galactic Overlord, Emperor of Omicron Persei VIII, Exalted Ruler
and Protector of all things Big and Small - Land, Sea, and Space,
Cardinal Commander of the Universal Army, Navy and Marines, Conqueror
of All That Can Be Surveyed, The Light that outshines The Sun, His
Most Supreme Majesty Shortwave.

You and you only may call me Your Excellency for short.

Ok, F*ck you, Your Excellency.

Install or not install...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:29:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:22:32 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Shouldn't you have put "Got it" in capitals letters? If you did it
would
have had more emphasis and I could have ignored it with greater
enthusiasm. Krause you have marginalized yourself and you are on the
bring
of becoming completely marginalized. You look for acceptance and
acknowledgement from Tom and Richard every day. It must be a sad life
to
live having to be validated by others.

Now, now. It *is* possible to have civil discussions with people you
have
disagreements with or completely different points of view. It's
normally a
healthy exercise but if you get sick of it, you just drop the subject
and
agree to disagree. If I were being called all kinds of names just
because
of my POV, there *would* not be any discussion.

10-4.

F*uck You, what do you know, you are a f*ucking Martian. ;)

Am not.

I am Sovereign Protector of The Universe, Preeminent Most High and
Holy Galactic Overlord, Emperor of Omicron Persei VIII, Exalted Ruler
and Protector of all things Big and Small - Land, Sea, and Space,
Cardinal Commander of the Universal Army, Navy and Marines, Conqueror
of All That Can Be Surveyed, The Light that outshines The Sun, His
Most Supreme Majesty Shortwave.

You and you only may call me Your Excellency for short.

But you can not go anywhere, as the Galactic Air Force will not accept you.
And they are the transport arm of the Universal Army, Navy and Marines. Not
good to upset the Faux service.

Install or not install...
 

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:42:05 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:29:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:22:32 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Shouldn't you have put "Got it" in capitals letters? If you did it would
have had more emphasis and I could have ignored it with greater
enthusiasm. Krause you have marginalized yourself and you are on the bring
of becoming completely marginalized. You look for acceptance and
acknowledgement from Tom and Richard every day. It must be a sad life to
live having to be validated by others.

Now, now. It *is* possible to have civil discussions with people you have
disagreements with or completely different points of view. It's normally a
healthy exercise but if you get sick of it, you just drop the subject and
agree to disagree. If I were being called all kinds of names just because
of my POV, there *would* not be any discussion.
10-4.
F*uck You, what do you know, you are a f*ucking Martian. ;)

Am not.

I am Sovereign Protector of The Universe, Preeminent Most High and
Holy Galactic Overlord, Emperor of Omicron Persei VIII, Exalted Ruler
and Protector of all things Big and Small - Land, Sea, and Space,
Cardinal Commander of the Universal Army, Navy and Marines, Conqueror
of All That Can Be Surveyed, The Light that outshines The Sun, His
Most Supreme Majesty Shortwave.

You and you only may call me Your Excellency for short.

Ok, F*ck you, Your Excellency.

Much better.

Install or not install...
 

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:49:03 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:29:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:22:32 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Shouldn't you have put "Got it" in capitals letters? If you did it
would
have had more emphasis and I could have ignored it with greater
enthusiasm. Krause you have marginalized yourself and you are on the
bring
of becoming completely marginalized. You look for acceptance and
acknowledgement from Tom and Richard every day. It must be a sad life
to
live having to be validated by others.

Now, now. It *is* possible to have civil discussions with people you
have
disagreements with or completely different points of view. It's
normally a
healthy exercise but if you get sick of it, you just drop the subject
and
agree to disagree. If I were being called all kinds of names just
because
of my POV, there *would* not be any discussion.

10-4.

F*uck You, what do you know, you are a f*ucking Martian. ;)

Am not.

I am Sovereign Protector of The Universe, Preeminent Most High and
Holy Galactic Overlord, Emperor of Omicron Persei VIII, Exalted Ruler
and Protector of all things Big and Small - Land, Sea, and Space,
Cardinal Commander of the Universal Army, Navy and Marines, Conqueror
of All That Can Be Surveyed, The Light that outshines The Sun, His
Most Supreme Majesty Shortwave.

You and you only may call me Your Excellency for short.

But you can not go anywhere, as the Galactic Air Force will not accept you.
And they are the transport arm of the Universal Army, Navy and Marines. Not
good to upset the Faux service.

I eliminated the Galactic Air Force be being a bunch of pansies.

Install or not install...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:49:03 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:29:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:22:32 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Shouldn't you have put "Got it" in capitals letters? If you did it
would
have had more emphasis and I could have ignored it with greater
enthusiasm. Krause you have marginalized yourself and you are on the
bring
of becoming completely marginalized. You look for acceptance and
acknowledgement from Tom and Richard every day. It must be a sad
life
to
live having to be validated by others.

Now, now. It *is* possible to have civil discussions with people you
have
disagreements with or completely different points of view. It's
normally a
healthy exercise but if you get sick of it, you just drop the subject
and
agree to disagree. If I were being called all kinds of names just
because
of my POV, there *would* not be any discussion.

10-4.

F*uck You, what do you know, you are a f*ucking Martian. ;)

Am not.

I am Sovereign Protector of The Universe, Preeminent Most High and
Holy Galactic Overlord, Emperor of Omicron Persei VIII, Exalted Ruler
and Protector of all things Big and Small - Land, Sea, and Space,
Cardinal Commander of the Universal Army, Navy and Marines, Conqueror
of All That Can Be Surveyed, The Light that outshines The Sun, His
Most Supreme Majesty Shortwave.

You and you only may call me Your Excellency for short.

But you can not go anywhere, as the Galactic Air Force will not accept
you.
And they are the transport arm of the Universal Army, Navy and Marines.
Not
good to upset the Faux service.

I eliminated the Galactic Air Force be being a bunch of pansies.

And now you are stuck in Connecticut. Should not eliminate the taxi
service.

Install or not install...
 

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:37:54 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:49:03 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:29:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:22:32 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Shouldn't you have put "Got it" in capitals letters? If you did it
would
have had more emphasis and I could have ignored it with greater
enthusiasm. Krause you have marginalized yourself and you are on the
bring
of becoming completely marginalized. You look for acceptance and
acknowledgement from Tom and Richard every day. It must be a sad
life
to
live having to be validated by others.

Now, now. It *is* possible to have civil discussions with people you
have
disagreements with or completely different points of view. It's
normally a
healthy exercise but if you get sick of it, you just drop the subject
and
agree to disagree. If I were being called all kinds of names just
because
of my POV, there *would* not be any discussion.

10-4.

F*uck You, what do you know, you are a f*ucking Martian. ;)

Am not.

I am Sovereign Protector of The Universe, Preeminent Most High and
Holy Galactic Overlord, Emperor of Omicron Persei VIII, Exalted Ruler
and Protector of all things Big and Small - Land, Sea, and Space,
Cardinal Commander of the Universal Army, Navy and Marines, Conqueror
of All That Can Be Surveyed, The Light that outshines The Sun, His
Most Supreme Majesty Shortwave.

You and you only may call me Your Excellency for short.

But you can not go anywhere, as the Galactic Air Force will not accept
you.
And they are the transport arm of the Universal Army, Navy and Marines.
Not
good to upset the Faux service.

I eliminated the Galactic Air Force be being a bunch of pansies.

And now you are stuck in Connecticut. Should not eliminate the taxi
service.

Good point.

The real military does need it's bus drivers. :)

Install or not install...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:37:54 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:49:03 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:29:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:22:32 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Shouldn't you have put "Got it" in capitals letters? If you did it
would
have had more emphasis and I could have ignored it with greater
enthusiasm. Krause you have marginalized yourself and you are on
the
bring
of becoming completely marginalized. You look for acceptance and
acknowledgement from Tom and Richard every day. It must be a sad
life
to
live having to be validated by others.

Now, now. It *is* possible to have civil discussions with people
you
have
disagreements with or completely different points of view. It's
normally a
healthy exercise but if you get sick of it, you just drop the
subject
and
agree to disagree. If I were being called all kinds of names just
because
of my POV, there *would* not be any discussion.

10-4.

F*uck You, what do you know, you are a f*ucking Martian. ;)

Am not.

I am Sovereign Protector of The Universe, Preeminent Most High and
Holy Galactic Overlord, Emperor of Omicron Persei VIII, Exalted Ruler
and Protector of all things Big and Small - Land, Sea, and Space,
Cardinal Commander of the Universal Army, Navy and Marines, Conqueror
of All That Can Be Surveyed, The Light that outshines The Sun, His
Most Supreme Majesty Shortwave.

You and you only may call me Your Excellency for short.

But you can not go anywhere, as the Galactic Air Force will not accept
you.
And they are the transport arm of the Universal Army, Navy and Marines.
Not
good to upset the Faux service.

I eliminated the Galactic Air Force be being a bunch of pansies.

And now you are stuck in Connecticut. Should not eliminate the taxi
service.

Good point.

The real military does need it's bus drivers. :)

Taxi drivers. We go where you want to go. Not just a preplanned route.

Install or not install...
 

Install or not install...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:29:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:22:32 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Shouldn't you have put "Got it" in capitals letters? If you did it would
have had more emphasis and I could have ignored it with greater
enthusiasm. Krause you have marginalized yourself and you are on the bring
of becoming completely marginalized. You look for acceptance and
acknowledgement from Tom and Richard every day. It must be a sad life to
live having to be validated by others.

Now, now. It *is* possible to have civil discussions with people you have
disagreements with or completely different points of view. It's normally a
healthy exercise but if you get sick of it, you just drop the subject and
agree to disagree. If I were being called all kinds of names just because
of my POV, there *would* not be any discussion.
10-4.
F*uck You, what do you know, you are a f*ucking Martian. ;)

Am not.

I am Sovereign Protector of The Universe, Preeminent Most High and
Holy Galactic Overlord, Emperor of Omicron Persei VIII, Exalted Ruler
and Protector of all things Big and Small - Land, Sea, and Space,
Cardinal Commander of the Universal Army, Navy and Marines, Conqueror
of All That Can Be Surveyed, The Light that outshines The Sun, His
Most Supreme Majesty Shortwave.

You and you only may call me Your Excellency for short.

Ah, you forgot the Air Force.

Install or not install...
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:32:03 -0500, WaIIy wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:36:06 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Non-intuitive, which turned me off right away.
I went ahead and dug in, but when I saw it corrupting my
screen and leaving artifacts, I dumped it.
Looking for a PIM with good calendar and alarms now.
Actually missing Outlook a bit.

--Vic

Try -

http://www.essentialpim.com/

Already did. Managed to freeze that one.

--Vic


Meaning, the program locked up? And the 3M post-it thing did weird things
to your screen?


Someone here suggested the free "Crawler" desktop notes, so I downloaded it
and am trying it. I like it. Seems to work fine and has produced no ill
effects on the computer. It claims to be spyware free and my "Spydoctor"
program has not detected anything new. I "did" choose to disable the
Crawler search engine though because having Yahoo's and Google is enough.

http://www.crawler.com/help/default....ns_Help&i=1468

Eisboch

Install or not install...
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:32:03 -0500, WaIIy wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:36:06 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Non-intuitive, which turned me off right away.
I went ahead and dug in, but when I saw it corrupting my
screen and leaving artifacts, I dumped it.
Looking for a PIM with good calendar and alarms now.
Actually missing Outlook a bit.

--Vic

Try -

http://www.essentialpim.com/

Already did. Managed to freeze that one.

--Vic


Meaning, the program locked up? And the 3M post-it thing did weird
things to your screen?


Someone here suggested the free "Crawler" desktop notes, so I downloaded
it and am trying it. I like it. Seems to work fine and has produced no
ill effects on the computer. It claims to be spyware free and my
"Spydoctor" program has not detected anything new. I "did" choose to
disable the Crawler search engine though because having Yahoo's and Google
is enough.

http://www.crawler.com/help/default....ns_Help&i=1468

Eisboch

I'd be interested if you could make those notes portable.

Install or not install...
 

"Jim" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:32:03 -0500, WaIIy wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:36:06 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Non-intuitive, which turned me off right away.
I went ahead and dug in, but when I saw it corrupting my
screen and leaving artifacts, I dumped it.
Looking for a PIM with good calendar and alarms now.
Actually missing Outlook a bit.

--Vic

Try -

http://www.essentialpim.com/

Already did. Managed to freeze that one.

--Vic


Meaning, the program locked up? And the 3M post-it thing did weird
things to your screen?


Someone here suggested the free "Crawler" desktop notes, so I downloaded
it and am trying it. I like it. Seems to work fine and has produced no
ill effects on the computer. It claims to be spyware free and my
"Spydoctor" program has not detected anything new. I "did" choose to
disable the Crawler search engine though because having Yahoo's and
Google is enough.

http://www.crawler.com/help/default....ns_Help&i=1468

Eisboch



I'd be interested if you could make those notes portable.

Not sure what you mean by "portable". Here's the help link:
http://www.crawler.com/help/default....=CR_NOTES_HELP

Eisboch

Install or not install...
 

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:47:17 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:32:03 -0500, WaIIy wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:36:06 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Non-intuitive, which turned me off right away.
I went ahead and dug in, but when I saw it corrupting my
screen and leaving artifacts, I dumped it.
Looking for a PIM with good calendar and alarms now.
Actually missing Outlook a bit.

Try -

http://www.essentialpim.com/

Already did. Managed to freeze that one.

Meaning, the program locked up? And the 3M post-it thing did weird things
to your screen?

Someone here suggested the free "Crawler" desktop notes, so I downloaded it
and am trying it. I like it. Seems to work fine and has produced no ill
effects on the computer. It claims to be spyware free and my "Spydoctor"
program has not detected anything new. I "did" choose to disable the
Crawler search engine though because having Yahoo's and Google is enough.

http://www.crawler.com/help/default....ns_Help&i=1468

I'm not being a wise ass here, but why is this a problem?

Isn't that what calendars are for? Why does this have to be
automated?

Am I missing something?

Install or not install...
 

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:54:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:



Meaning, the program locked up?

Yep, had to kill the task. Then it wouldn't start because of
a "corrupted DB" error. I had simply clicked a function.
Can't remember what it was. Probably the "Warning! Don't click this
Bad Software Button!"

And the 3M post-it thing did weird things
to your screen?

Artifacts all over the place. Didn't like it anyway.
I'm a gamer, and modern, demanding games work slick as ice without
tinkering. I'm not going looking for drivers/incompatabilities to get
a program I don't care about to work correctly. BTDT.

--Vic