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"HK" wrote in message
...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...

Maybe I misunderstood what Vic said. My interpretation was that he
wanted
just words on the page. He said "a simple doc". If all you want to do
is
type some words, save the doc and maybe print it, those actions take
you
nowhere near the menus for graphic features. They're all on the File
menu. I
suppose a spastic mouse movement could cause you to hit toolbar
buttons, but
that's one of many reasons why professional typists don't use the mouse
for
the vast majority of work.

Nah, they were mostly "official" and a reflection on my
"professionalism" so they were fonted, centered, and paginated.
Anyway, most of the time I had problems with it was when a nerd
tricked it out with all kinds of tabulation, macros, and such.
Then I just refused to deal with it.
You know, you give some people a hammer, and they turn it into a
milling machine.

--Vic


Don't tell anyone else in the group about this page:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/211982

Learn a few of those and you'll be the robocop of word processing.


Then what, get a job as a secretary?

When I first started writing technical proposals or papers, we were still
writing it out on legal pads and did a true, physical cut and paste to
rearrange or use previously written boilerplate. Then, the secretaries
would type it out, correcting grammar and spelling. When PCs came along it
was obviously easier and faster to do it ourselves, but the grammar,
sentence structure and spelling still suffered, despite the rudimentary
spell/grammar/punctuation checkers.

That was one good thing about writing technical stuff though. Typically the
only people reading it were engineers or lawyers and none of them can spell
or write a proper paragraph either. Heck, if we couldn't think of a word to
adequately describe a component or technical concept, we just made one up.

Eisboch

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HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.

How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?


I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they
don't try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular
society. No ayatollahs need apply.

"Your" society is our society and it is not secular.


Uh-huh. We have no state religion or official religious belief in
this country, at least for the moment. I believe in maintaining the
separation of church and state, the prevention of the adoption of any
state religion or state religious belief, the withdrawal of state
subsidies to K-12 religious schools, and the end of tax exemption for
churches. The state should be neutral on matters of belief, and gives
no state privileges or subsidies to religions.

There is no "separation" between church and state in the Constitution,
there is the first amendment. Are you going to throw out the opening
and closing prayers of the House and Senate? Why are the re military
chaplins? Religion is a critical component of our society.



Elegant, ain't it?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

It doesn't say that the public square is free from religion.

No law. That means no state religion or state religious belief. You are
free to exercise whatever religion you wish, but there is nothing there
saying you can try to shovel it onto me or onto the state.

Who said anything about a state religion? Nobody wants to shove it onto
you or the state they just want the freedom to freely exercise their
religion. And, who says that the first amendment won't be ignored in the
future. Congress and the president ignore the tenth amendment all of the
time.

As for chaplains, I believe their pay and benefits ought to be borne by
religious organizations, not by the taxpayers. But I wouldn't push for
that. That's just my belief.

Why wouldn't you push for that. Do you have a soft spot in your heart
for the military? Any attempt at getting rid of chaplains would cause
Congress to go into shock.

Yes, I would toss out the opening and closing prayers in Congress.

Why don't you get your ACLU buddies to go after Congress and get the
prayer removed?

Your assumption and the assumption of several of the other simpies here
is that I am anti-religion. I am not. I don't give a damn what religion
you practice, so long as you keep it in your church, in your home, and
*out* of my state. I am a disestablishmentarianist.

You are anti-religion when it comes to any religion that you don't
practice. Please remind me of which religion you are in favor of, it
will help clear up a lot of things. Oh, and for your information and the
dossier you keep on me, I do not practice any established religion.

Why don't you and Doug Kanter go and some some dope and slap each other
on the back talking about being disestablishmentarianists.

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:03:58 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.

How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?

I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they don't
try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular society. No
ayatollahs need apply.

But you believe that it's perfectly ok to impose your secular beliefs
on me correct?

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:46:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.

How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?

If you weren't a fundamentalist it might be attractive.

Well I'm not a Transcendental Meditative Catholic Buddhist
Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeyist.

I belong to the Transcendental Meditative Catholic Buddhist
Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkey - Reformed Synod.

Reformers reject the Fundamentalist theology instead substituting our
own. :)

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:03:58 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.
How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?
I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they don't
try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular society. No
ayatollahs need apply.

But you believe that it's perfectly ok to impose your secular beliefs
on me correct?

Of course it is ok, especially if he gets to ridicule and denigrate
those who have a strong faith.

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:56:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.

How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?

If you weren't a fundamentalist it might be attractive.

I don't understand your response. I am sure it is me, but please explain.

I don't believe that the Evolutionary Space Monkeys intended their
sacred texts to be literally followed, it is more a guide to enlightenment.

There aren't any texts as such - it's more of a philosophy.

The main tenant is do unto others before they do unto you.

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:58:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

BAR wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.

How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?

If you weren't a fundamentalist it might be attractive.

I don't understand your response. I am sure it is me, but please
explain.


I don't believe that the Evolutionary Space Monkeys intended their
sacred texts to be literally followed, it is more a guide to enlightenment.

That is one school of thought, but I disagree it is a historical
document that should be literally followed.

Monkeys can't write, therefore there are no documents - historical or
otherwise.

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:56:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.

How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?

If you weren't a fundamentalist it might be attractive.

I don't understand your response. I am sure it is me, but please
explain.

I don't believe that the Evolutionary Space Monkeys intended their
sacred texts to be literally followed, it is more a guide to
enlightenment.

There aren't any texts as such - it's more of a philosophy.

The main tenant is do unto others before they do unto you.


That's a long name for a tenant. How did he/she fit it all on the rental
application?

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:03:43 -0500, BAR wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.

How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?

If you weren't a fundamentalist it might be attractive.

I don't understand your response. I am sure it is me, but please
explain.

I don't believe that the Evolutionary Space Monkeys intended their
sacred texts to be literally followed, it is more a guide to
enlightenment.

That is one school of thought, but I disagree it is a historical
document that should be literally followed.

Yes, it is an historical document but, I was written somewhat poetically
and thus can't be followed to the letter. I tried to follow it literally
and wound up on a hill beneath a tree naked and cooing. I started at
mid-night and I had lost my clothes along the way. When the police
picked me up they didn't take me home.

That's a result of drinking Navy Torpedo Juice. :)

~~ which, as I remember, involved raisins, orange peels, pineapple
juice and ethyl alcohol ~~

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:58:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

BAR wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.

How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?

If you weren't a fundamentalist it might be attractive.

I don't understand your response. I am sure it is me, but please
explain.


I don't believe that the Evolutionary Space Monkeys intended their
sacred texts to be literally followed, it is more a guide to
enlightenment.

That is one school of thought, but I disagree it is a historical
document that should be literally followed.

Monkeys can't write, therefore there are no documents - historical or
otherwise.

But that does not seem right. As an infinite number of monkeys could
produce Shakespeare, why not tennents of ESM.s?

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BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.

How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?


I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they
don't try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular
society. No ayatollahs need apply.

"Your" society is our society and it is not secular.


Uh-huh. We have no state religion or official religious belief in
this country, at least for the moment. I believe in maintaining the
separation of church and state, the prevention of the adoption of
any state religion or state religious belief, the withdrawal of
state subsidies to K-12 religious schools, and the end of tax
exemption for churches. The state should be neutral on matters of
belief, and gives no state privileges or subsidies to religions.

There is no "separation" between church and state in the
Constitution, there is the first amendment. Are you going to throw
out the opening and closing prayers of the House and Senate? Why are
the re military chaplins? Religion is a critical component of our
society.



Elegant, ain't it?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

It doesn't say that the public square is free from religion.

No law. That means no state religion or state religious belief. You
are free to exercise whatever religion you wish, but there is nothing
there saying you can try to shovel it onto me or onto the state.

Who said anything about a state religion? Nobody wants to shove it onto
you or the state they just want the freedom to freely exercise their
religion. And, who says that the first amendment won't be ignored in the
future. Congress and the president ignore the tenth amendment all of the
time.

As for chaplains, I believe their pay and benefits ought to be borne
by religious organizations, not by the taxpayers. But I wouldn't push
for that. That's just my belief.

Why wouldn't you push for that. Do you have a soft spot in your heart
for the military? Any attempt at getting rid of chaplains would cause
Congress to go into shock.

Yes, I would toss out the opening and closing prayers in Congress.

Why don't you get your ACLU buddies to go after Congress and get the
prayer removed?

Your assumption and the assumption of several of the other simpies
here is that I am anti-religion. I am not. I don't give a damn what
religion you practice, so long as you keep it in your church, in your
home, and *out* of my state. I am a disestablishmentarianist.

You are anti-religion when it comes to any religion that you don't
practice. Please remind me of which religion you are in favor of, it
will help clear up a lot of things. Oh, and for your information and the
dossier you keep on me, I do not practice any established religion.

Why don't you and Doug Kanter go and some some dope and slap each other
on the back talking about being disestablishmentarianists.


Aren't you glad I spelled that out for you? You'd be hopeless otherwise.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:03:58 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.
How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?
I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they don't
try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular society. No
ayatollahs need apply.

But you believe that it's perfectly ok to impose your secular beliefs
on me correct?


But I don't. And no, I don't. If you (and I don't mean you) don't want
to help a woman friend get an abortion, why...don't. Got it?

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:58:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

BAR wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.
How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?
If you weren't a fundamentalist it might be attractive.
I don't understand your response. I am sure it is me, but please
explain.

I don't believe that the Evolutionary Space Monkeys intended their
sacred texts to be literally followed, it is more a guide to enlightenment.
That is one school of thought, but I disagree it is a historical
document that should be literally followed.

Monkeys can't write, therefore there are no documents - historical or
otherwise.


Of course they can. The Planet of the Apes proved it.

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"HK" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:03:58 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.
How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?
I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they don't
try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular society. No
ayatollahs need apply.

But you believe that it's perfectly ok to impose your secular beliefs
on me correct?


But I don't. And no, I don't. If you (and I don't mean you) don't want to
help a woman friend get an abortion, why...don't. Got it?


These same "folks" are perfectly OK with the honor of seeing our soldiers
die while invading the wrong country. Human life is sacred. Horse ****.

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

These same "folks" are perfectly OK with the honor of seeing our soldiers
die while invading the wrong country. Human life is sacred. Horse ****.


An unborn child has no control or choice and the decision is made by others
based on what *they* think.
A volunteer soldier is one by *his/her* choice and understands (or should)
the risks and requirements of the job.

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

These same "folks" are perfectly OK with the honor of seeing our soldiers
die while invading the wrong country. Human life is sacred. Horse ****.


An unborn child has no control or choice and the decision is made by
others based on what *they* think.
A volunteer soldier is one by *his/her* choice and understands (or should)
the risks and requirements of the job.

Eisboch


Once a soldier's in the service, he has a choice of going where he's told,
or getting in trouble, right? That's not a choice, unless AWOL is considered
a good choice.

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:03:58 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.
How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?
I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they don't
try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular society. No
ayatollahs need apply.
But you believe that it's perfectly ok to impose your secular beliefs
on me correct?

But I don't. And no, I don't. If you (and I don't mean you) don't want to
help a woman friend get an abortion, why...don't. Got it?


These same "folks" are perfectly OK with the honor of seeing our soldiers
die while invading the wrong country. Human life is sacred. Horse ****.




They keep missing the point. *I don't care* what their religious beliefs
or practices are, so long as I don't have to hear about them, read about
them, deal with them, stumble across them, or see my tax dollars go to
pay for any of them.

From what I have seen here, one conclusion I can draw is that the less
one follows the teachings of Jesus, the more likely one is to proclaim
one's Christianity.

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:36:25 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:58:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

BAR wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.

How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?

If you weren't a fundamentalist it might be attractive.

I don't understand your response. I am sure it is me, but please
explain.


I don't believe that the Evolutionary Space Monkeys intended their
sacred texts to be literally followed, it is more a guide to
enlightenment.

That is one school of thought, but I disagree it is a historical
document that should be literally followed.

Monkeys can't write, therefore there are no documents - historical or
otherwise.

But that does not seem right. As an infinite number of monkeys could
produce Shakespeare, why not tennents of ESM.s?

Those are Transcendental Meditative Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist
Evolutionary Earth Monkeys.

Transcendental Meditative Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist
Evolutionary Space Monkeys are telepathic - no need to write.

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:43:11 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:58:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

BAR wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.
How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?
If you weren't a fundamentalist it might be attractive.
I don't understand your response. I am sure it is me, but please
explain.

I don't believe that the Evolutionary Space Monkeys intended their
sacred texts to be literally followed, it is more a guide to enlightenment.
That is one school of thought, but I disagree it is a historical
document that should be literally followed.

Monkeys can't write, therefore there are no documents - historical or
otherwise.

Of course they can. The Planet of the Apes proved it.

No, no, no...

Space Monkeys are telepathic. No need to write.

~~ sheesh ~~

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

These same "folks" are perfectly OK with the honor of seeing our
soldiers die while invading the wrong country. Human life is sacred.
Horse ****.


An unborn child has no control or choice and the decision is made by
others based on what *they* think.
A volunteer soldier is one by *his/her* choice and understands (or
should) the risks and requirements of the job.

Eisboch


Once a soldier's in the service, he has a choice of going where he's told,
or getting in trouble, right? That's not a choice, unless AWOL is
considered a good choice.


You obviously don't understand the concept of a military.
You don't pick and choose your duty and that is clearly understood before
you raise your right hand.
You are required to obey any "lawful" order. So there's your debate ... is
being ordered to Iraq a lawful order or not.
If our banana heads in Congress can't determine that, how the hell does a
lowly Private decide?

Eisboch

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:42:01 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:03:58 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.
How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?
I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they don't
try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular society. No
ayatollahs need apply.

But you believe that it's perfectly ok to impose your secular beliefs
on me correct?

But I don't.

Got 'cha.

And no, I don't.

I said I got 'cha - jeeze... :)

If you (and I don't mean you) don't want to help a woman friend
get an abortion, why...don't. Got it?

Ah, but if I were an OB/GYN, as I understand the law via a DIL who is
an OB/GYN (and I readily admit that may be state law, not Federal),
I'd be required to do that even if it were against my personal
religious belief.

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

These same "folks" are perfectly OK with the honor of seeing our
soldiers die while invading the wrong country. Human life is sacred.
Horse ****.


An unborn child has no control or choice and the decision is made by
others based on what *they* think.
A volunteer soldier is one by *his/her* choice and understands (or
should) the risks and requirements of the job.

Eisboch


Once a soldier's in the service, he has a choice of going where he's
told, or getting in trouble, right? That's not a choice, unless AWOL is
considered a good choice.


You obviously don't understand the concept of a military.
You don't pick and choose your duty and that is clearly understood before
you raise your right hand.
You are required to obey any "lawful" order. So there's your debate ...
is being ordered to Iraq a lawful order or not.
If our banana heads in Congress can't determine that, how the hell does a
lowly Private decide?

Eisboch



The soldier joins by choice. The soldier has no legal choice about the
mission he might end up with. He could end up spending the whole time in
service training for a war that never happens. Or, he could be sent into the
wrong mission. At that moment, he is no different from the unborn child. He
has no choice.

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

These same "folks" are perfectly OK with the honor of seeing our
soldiers die while invading the wrong country. Human life is sacred.
Horse ****.


An unborn child has no control or choice and the decision is made by
others based on what *they* think.
A volunteer soldier is one by *his/her* choice and understands (or
should) the risks and requirements of the job.

Eisboch


Once a soldier's in the service, he has a choice of going where he's
told, or getting in trouble, right? That's not a choice, unless AWOL is
considered a good choice.


You obviously don't understand the concept of a military.
You don't pick and choose your duty and that is clearly understood before
you raise your right hand.
You are required to obey any "lawful" order. So there's your debate ...
is being ordered to Iraq a lawful order or not.
If our banana heads in Congress can't determine that, how the hell does a
lowly Private decide?

Eisboch



The soldier joins by choice. The soldier has no legal choice about the
mission he might end up with. He could end up spending the whole time in
service training for a war that never happens. Or, he could be sent into
the wrong mission. At that moment, he is no different from the unborn
child. He has no choice.


Strange logic.

A soldier joins by choice fully understanding (theoretically anyway) that
he/she will have very limited choices during the duration of his/her
service. Military service includes a suspension of many "rights" that a
civilian has and military personnel know that going in. An unborn child
knows nothing and can't make a choice.

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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These same "folks" are perfectly OK with the honor of seeing our
soldiers die while invading the wrong country. Human life is sacred.
Horse ****.


An unborn child has no control or choice and the decision is made by
others based on what *they* think.
A volunteer soldier is one by *his/her* choice and understands (or
should) the risks and requirements of the job.

Eisboch


Once a soldier's in the service, he has a choice of going where he's
told, or getting in trouble, right? That's not a choice, unless AWOL is
considered a good choice.


You obviously don't understand the concept of a military.
You don't pick and choose your duty and that is clearly understood
before you raise your right hand.
You are required to obey any "lawful" order. So there's your debate ...
is being ordered to Iraq a lawful order or not.
If our banana heads in Congress can't determine that, how the hell does
a lowly Private decide?

Eisboch



The soldier joins by choice. The soldier has no legal choice about the
mission he might end up with. He could end up spending the whole time in
service training for a war that never happens. Or, he could be sent into
the wrong mission. At that moment, he is no different from the unborn
child. He has no choice.


Strange logic.

A soldier joins by choice fully understanding (theoretically anyway) that
he/she will have very limited choices during the duration of his/her
service. Military service includes a suspension of many "rights" that a
civilian has and military personnel know that going in. An unborn child
knows nothing and can't make a choice.

Eisboch


Oh well. The analogy makes sense to me.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:58:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

BAR wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.
How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?
If you weren't a fundamentalist it might be attractive.
I don't understand your response. I am sure it is me, but please
explain.

I don't believe that the Evolutionary Space Monkeys intended their
sacred texts to be literally followed, it is more a guide to enlightenment.
That is one school of thought, but I disagree it is a historical
document that should be literally followed.

Monkeys can't write, therefore there are no documents - historical or
otherwise.

You are wrong, it has been translated and written.+
+

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Vic Smith wrote:

People who do a lot of writing often prefer WordPerfect.
I prefer notepad.


Nedit works for me.

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"HK" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:03:58 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.
How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?
I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they
don't try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular society.
No ayatollahs need apply.
But you believe that it's perfectly ok to impose your secular beliefs
on me correct?

But I don't. And no, I don't. If you (and I don't mean you) don't want
to help a woman friend get an abortion, why...don't. Got it?


These same "folks" are perfectly OK with the honor of seeing our soldiers
die while invading the wrong country. Human life is sacred. Horse ****.


They keep missing the point. *I don't care* what their religious beliefs
or practices are, so long as I don't have to hear about them, read about
them, deal with them, stumble across them, or see my tax dollars go to pay
for any of them.

From what I have seen here, one conclusion I can draw is that the less one
follows the teachings of Jesus, the more likely one is to proclaim one's
Christianity.

Maybe some do not want to here about your lobsta boat. But just like those
who profess a religious preference, they also have free speech.

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:36:25 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:58:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

BAR wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.

How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?

If you weren't a fundamentalist it might be attractive.

I don't understand your response. I am sure it is me, but please
explain.


I don't believe that the Evolutionary Space Monkeys intended their
sacred texts to be literally followed, it is more a guide to
enlightenment.

That is one school of thought, but I disagree it is a historical
document that should be literally followed.

Monkeys can't write, therefore there are no documents - historical or
otherwise.

But that does not seem right. As an infinite number of monkeys could
produce Shakespeare, why not tennents of ESM.s?

Those are Transcendental Meditative Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist
Evolutionary Earth Monkeys.

Transcendental Meditative Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist
Evolutionary Space Monkeys are telepathic - no need to write.

Can't they just hire a professional writer, maybe a part time union flack,
to put the info down on paper? They just telepath it into the flacks brain.

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HK wrote:


But I don't. And no, I don't. If you (and I don't mean you) don't want
to help a woman friend get an abortion, why...don't. Got it?

Well SWS did he explain it slow enough so you can "get it".

Now, if you don't want to help kill my neighbor don't help, but stop
your bitching when someone else does help me. Got it?

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:55:25 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:46:02 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message


You mean the paper stickums or a computer version?
If it's on the PC, where can I get it, and what do you use it for?
I could use some "reminder" type deal.
Putting a string on my finger hurts after a while.

--Vic

http://www.3m.com/us/office/postit/d...tal_notes.html

Thanks! I've installed the trial version.

--Vic



Please report back about how you like it.

I didn't. It's gone.

--Vic

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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:35:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

These same "folks" are perfectly OK with the honor of seeing our
soldiers die while invading the wrong country. Human life is sacred.
Horse ****.


An unborn child has no control or choice and the decision is made by
others based on what *they* think.
A volunteer soldier is one by *his/her* choice and understands (or
should) the risks and requirements of the job.

Eisboch


Once a soldier's in the service, he has a choice of going where he's
told, or getting in trouble, right? That's not a choice, unless AWOL is
considered a good choice.


You obviously don't understand the concept of a military.
You don't pick and choose your duty and that is clearly understood
before you raise your right hand.
You are required to obey any "lawful" order. So there's your debate ...
is being ordered to Iraq a lawful order or not.
If our banana heads in Congress can't determine that, how the hell does
a lowly Private decide?

Eisboch



The soldier joins by choice. The soldier has no legal choice about the
mission he might end up with. He could end up spending the whole time in
service training for a war that never happens. Or, he could be sent into
the wrong mission. At that moment, he is no different from the unborn
child. He has no choice.


Strange logic.

A soldier joins by choice fully understanding (theoretically anyway) that
he/she will have very limited choices during the duration of his/her
service. Military service includes a suspension of many "rights" that a
civilian has and military personnel know that going in. An unborn child
knows nothing and can't make a choice.

Eisboch


Oh well. The analogy makes sense to me.


Was it 'perfect'?

That 'anal-ogy' was just that. About as stupid as ****. Eisboch's just too
damn nice to say it.

Do you really think the friggin' soldier joining today doesn't think he
'might' go to Iraq?
--
John H

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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:14:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:42:01 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:03:58 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.
How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?
I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they don't
try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular society. No
ayatollahs need apply.

But you believe that it's perfectly ok to impose your secular beliefs
on me correct?

But I don't.

Got 'cha.

And no, I don't.

I said I got 'cha - jeeze... :)

If you (and I don't mean you) don't want to help a woman friend
get an abortion, why...don't. Got it?

Ah, but if I were an OB/GYN, as I understand the law via a DIL who is
an OB/GYN (and I readily admit that may be state law, not Federal),
I'd be required to do that even if it were against my personal
religious belief.

If you (and I don't mean you)...

How come Eisboch and SWS get this little expression attached and the rest
of us don't?

Harry, you wouldn't be a suck up, would you?
--
John H

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"HK" wrote in message
...
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.

How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?


I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they
don't try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular society.
No ayatollahs need apply.

"Your" society is our society and it is not secular.


Uh-huh. We have no state religion or official religious belief in this
country, at least for the moment. I believe in maintaining the
separation of church and state, the prevention of the adoption of any
state religion or state religious belief, the withdrawal of state
subsidies to K-12 religious schools, and the end of tax exemption for
churches. The state should be neutral on matters of belief, and gives
no state privileges or subsidies to religions.

There is no "separation" between church and state in the Constitution,
there is the first amendment. Are you going to throw out the opening
and closing prayers of the House and Senate? Why are the re military
chaplins? Religion is a critical component of our society.



Elegant, ain't it?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

It doesn't say that the public square is free from religion.

No law. That means no state religion or state religious belief. You are
free to exercise whatever religion you wish, but there is nothing there
saying you can try to shovel it onto me or onto the state.

Who said anything about a state religion? Nobody wants to shove it onto
you or the state they just want the freedom to freely exercise their
religion. And, who says that the first amendment won't be ignored in the
future. Congress and the president ignore the tenth amendment all of the
time.

As for chaplains, I believe their pay and benefits ought to be borne by
religious organizations, not by the taxpayers. But I wouldn't push for
that. That's just my belief.

Why wouldn't you push for that. Do you have a soft spot in your heart for
the military? Any attempt at getting rid of chaplains would cause
Congress to go into shock.

Yes, I would toss out the opening and closing prayers in Congress.

Why don't you get your ACLU buddies to go after Congress and get the
prayer removed?

Your assumption and the assumption of several of the other simpies here
is that I am anti-religion. I am not. I don't give a damn what religion
you practice, so long as you keep it in your church, in your home, and
*out* of my state. I am a disestablishmentarianist.

You are anti-religion when it comes to any religion that you don't
practice. Please remind me of which religion you are in favor of, it will
help clear up a lot of things. Oh, and for your information and the
dossier you keep on me, I do not practice any established religion.

Why don't you and Doug Kanter go and some some dope and slap each other
on the back talking about being disestablishmentarianists.


Aren't you glad I spelled that out for you? You'd be hopeless otherwise.

A little antidisestablishmentarianism stirred into Harry's ricebowl might
help to quell his anti social tendancies.

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"HK" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:03:58 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.
How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?
I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they don't
try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular society. No
ayatollahs need apply.

But you believe that it's perfectly ok to impose your secular beliefs
on me correct?


But I don't. And no, I don't. If you (and I don't mean you) don't want to
help a woman friend get an abortion, why...don't. Got it?

Harry. Did you go and get one of your fantacy girlfriends in trouble again?

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John H. wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:14:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:42:01 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:03:58 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.
How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?
I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they don't
try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular society. No
ayatollahs need apply.
But you believe that it's perfectly ok to impose your secular beliefs
on me correct?
But I don't.
Got 'cha.

And no, I don't.
I said I got 'cha - jeeze... :)

If you (and I don't mean you) don't want to help a woman friend
get an abortion, why...don't. Got it?
Ah, but if I were an OB/GYN, as I understand the law via a DIL who is
an OB/GYN (and I readily admit that may be state law, not Federal),
I'd be required to do that even if it were against my personal
religious belief.

If you (and I don't mean you)...

How come Eisboch and SWS get this little expression attached and the rest
of us don't?

Harry, you wouldn't be a suck up, would you?

You've noticed that too!

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:42:01 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:03:58 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.
How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?
I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they don't
try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular society. No
ayatollahs need apply.
But you believe that it's perfectly ok to impose your secular beliefs
on me correct?
But I don't.

Got 'cha.

And no, I don't.

I said I got 'cha - jeeze... :)

If you (and I don't mean you) don't want to help a woman friend
get an abortion, why...don't. Got it?

Ah, but if I were an OB/GYN, as I understand the law via a DIL who is
an OB/GYN (and I readily admit that may be state law, not Federal),
I'd be required to do that even if it were against my personal
religious belief.


I've not read of any doctors being disciplined by their local or state
medical boards for refusing to perform abortions, nor have I read of any
legal proceedings for the same reason. I have heard of some pharmacists
getting into a bit of trouble, nothing serious, for refusing to
prescribe the morning after pill.



--
George W. Bush - the worst president ever.

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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:25:14 -0500, BAR wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:14:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:42:01 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:03:58 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.
How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?
I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they don't
try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular society. No
ayatollahs need apply.
But you believe that it's perfectly ok to impose your secular beliefs
on me correct?
But I don't.
Got 'cha.

And no, I don't.
I said I got 'cha - jeeze... :)

If you (and I don't mean you) don't want to help a woman friend
get an abortion, why...don't. Got it?
Ah, but if I were an OB/GYN, as I understand the law via a DIL who is
an OB/GYN (and I readily admit that may be state law, not Federal),
I'd be required to do that even if it were against my personal
religious belief.

If you (and I don't mean you)...

How come Eisboch and SWS get this little expression attached and the rest
of us don't?

Harry, you wouldn't be a suck up, would you?

You've noticed that too!

gmta

Although, it wasn't hard to notice!
--
John H

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BAR wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:14:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:42:01 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:03:58 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.
How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?
I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they
don't try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular
society. No ayatollahs need apply.
But you believe that it's perfectly ok to impose your secular beliefs
on me correct?
But I don't.
Got 'cha.

And no, I don't.
I said I got 'cha - jeeze... :)

If you (and I don't mean you) don't want to help a woman friend get
an abortion, why...don't. Got it?
Ah, but if I were an OB/GYN, as I understand the law via a DIL who is
an OB/GYN (and I readily admit that may be state law, not Federal),
I'd be required to do that even if it were against my personal
religious belief.

If you (and I don't mean you)...

How come Eisboch and SWS get this little expression attached and the rest
of us don't?

Harry, you wouldn't be a suck up, would you?

You've noticed that too!


Neither Eisboch nor Tom are or ever have been a**holes. You and that
chunk of toe cheese - Herring - are. Got it?

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HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:42:01 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:03:58 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.
How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?
I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they
don't try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular
society. No ayatollahs need apply.
But you believe that it's perfectly ok to impose your secular beliefs
on me correct?
But I don't.

Got 'cha.

And no, I don't.

I said I got 'cha - jeeze... :)

If you (and I don't mean you) don't want to help a woman friend get
an abortion, why...don't. Got it?

Ah, but if I were an OB/GYN, as I understand the law via a DIL who is
an OB/GYN (and I readily admit that may be state law, not Federal),
I'd be required to do that even if it were against my personal
religious belief.


I've not read of any doctors being disciplined by their local or state
medical boards for refusing to perform abortions, nor have I read of any
legal proceedings for the same reason. I have heard of some pharmacists
getting into a bit of trouble, nothing serious, for refusing to
prescribe the morning after pill.

Pharmacists running their own pharmacies should have the option of
carrying the medicines they choose, however, if you work for a company
that company should be able to carry the medicines they choose. Your
choice is to patronize them or not to patronize them.

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HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:14:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:42:01 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:03:58 -0500, HK
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.
How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?
I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they
don't try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular
society. No ayatollahs need apply.
But you believe that it's perfectly ok to impose your secular beliefs
on me correct?
But I don't.
Got 'cha.

And no, I don't.
I said I got 'cha - jeeze... :)

If you (and I don't mean you) don't want to help a woman friend get
an abortion, why...don't. Got it?
Ah, but if I were an OB/GYN, as I understand the law via a DIL who is
an OB/GYN (and I readily admit that may be state law, not Federal),
I'd be required to do that even if it were against my personal
religious belief.

If you (and I don't mean you)...

How come Eisboch and SWS get this little expression attached and the
rest
of us don't?

Harry, you wouldn't be a suck up, would you?

You've noticed that too!


Neither Eisboch nor Tom are or ever have been a**holes. You and that
chunk of toe cheese - Herring - are. Got it?

Shouldn't you have put "Got it" in capitals letters? If you did it would
have had more emphasis and I could have ignored it with greater
enthusiasm. Krause you have marginalized yourself and you are on the
bring of becoming completely marginalized. You look for acceptance and
acknowledgement from Tom and Richard every day. It must be a sad life to
live having to be validated by others.