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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:30:07 -0500, John H. wrote: Mrs H got an almost free MS Office Enterprise 2007 from her job. We've not had any problems with Office 2000. Running XP. Would you install or not install? It's been a few days since I looked at this thread but I certainly won't be installing this. I'm not ready to take my vows I have the "full" MS Office 2007, which I installed on my desktop. I uninstalled it and went back to Office 2003. I did not like the interface in the 2007 version, and I could not see any "improvements" that made a difference for me. These big office suites are really bloatware. I rarely use anything in 2003 except Excel. For WP, I use Wordperfect. It's a little "lighter" than WORD, and for me it seems faster, too. There's no problem saving files in any file format others might need. How fast does a word processor need to be? It spends 99% of its existence waiting for humans to type of press a button. What does Wordperfect do faster? I'm not asking because I dislike Wordperfect. But, if I already had one word processor installed, I wouldn't bother installing another unless the first one was screwed up in a major way. Fewer commands, fewer options, easier and faster to set up and use or not use "defaults," a lot less of doing it Microsoft's way or no way at all. It's a feeling, as I stated, that it seems faster to me. I find WORD clunky, obtuse, and overstuffed. |
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... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:30:07 -0500, John H. wrote: Mrs H got an almost free MS Office Enterprise 2007 from her job. We've not had any problems with Office 2000. Running XP. Would you install or not install? It's been a few days since I looked at this thread but I certainly won't be installing this. I'm not ready to take my vows I have the "full" MS Office 2007, which I installed on my desktop. I uninstalled it and went back to Office 2003. I did not like the interface in the 2007 version, and I could not see any "improvements" that made a difference for me. These big office suites are really bloatware. I rarely use anything in 2003 except Excel. For WP, I use Wordperfect. It's a little "lighter" than WORD, and for me it seems faster, too. There's no problem saving files in any file format others might need. How fast does a word processor need to be? It spends 99% of its existence waiting for humans to type of press a button. What does Wordperfect do faster? I'm not asking because I dislike Wordperfect. But, if I already had one word processor installed, I wouldn't bother installing another unless the first one was screwed up in a major way. Fewer commands, fewer options, easier and faster to set up and use or not use "defaults," a lot less of doing it Microsoft's way or no way at all. It's a feeling, as I stated, that it seems faster to me. I find WORD clunky, obtuse, and overstuffed. Fewer commands? You don't have to use commands that you don't need. And, does your version of Word have the "Hide less-used commands on menus" feature? If you don't use them, you don't see them, at least the more obscure commands. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:30:07 -0500, John H. wrote: Mrs H got an almost free MS Office Enterprise 2007 from her job. We've not had any problems with Office 2000. Running XP. Would you install or not install? It's been a few days since I looked at this thread but I certainly won't be installing this. I'm not ready to take my vows I have the "full" MS Office 2007, which I installed on my desktop. I uninstalled it and went back to Office 2003. I did not like the interface in the 2007 version, and I could not see any "improvements" that made a difference for me. These big office suites are really bloatware. I rarely use anything in 2003 except Excel. For WP, I use Wordperfect. It's a little "lighter" than WORD, and for me it seems faster, too. There's no problem saving files in any file format others might need. How fast does a word processor need to be? It spends 99% of its existence waiting for humans to type of press a button. What does Wordperfect do faster? I'm not asking because I dislike Wordperfect. But, if I already had one word processor installed, I wouldn't bother installing another unless the first one was screwed up in a major way. Harry runs Vista so it slows everything down to a crawl. |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:27:06 -0500, HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote: I'm not asking because I dislike Wordperfect. But, if I already had one word processor installed, I wouldn't bother installing another unless the first one was screwed up in a major way. Fewer commands, fewer options, easier and faster to set up and use or not use "defaults," a lot less of doing it Microsoft's way or no way at all. It's a feeling, as I stated, that it seems faster to me. I find WORD clunky, obtuse, and overstuffed. People who do a lot of writing often prefer WordPerfect. I prefer notepad. --Vic |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:30:07 -0500, John H. wrote: Mrs H got an almost free MS Office Enterprise 2007 from her job. We've not had any problems with Office 2000. Running XP. Would you install or not install? It's been a few days since I looked at this thread but I certainly won't be installing this. I'm not ready to take my vows I have the "full" MS Office 2007, which I installed on my desktop. I uninstalled it and went back to Office 2003. I did not like the interface in the 2007 version, and I could not see any "improvements" that made a difference for me. These big office suites are really bloatware. I rarely use anything in 2003 except Excel. For WP, I use Wordperfect. It's a little "lighter" than WORD, and for me it seems faster, too. There's no problem saving files in any file format others might need. How fast does a word processor need to be? It spends 99% of its existence waiting for humans to type of press a button. What does Wordperfect do faster? I'm not asking because I dislike Wordperfect. But, if I already had one word processor installed, I wouldn't bother installing another unless the first one was screwed up in a major way. Fewer commands, fewer options, easier and faster to set up and use or not use "defaults," a lot less of doing it Microsoft's way or no way at all. It's a feeling, as I stated, that it seems faster to me. I find WORD clunky, obtuse, and overstuffed. Fewer commands? You don't have to use commands that you don't need. And, does your version of Word have the "Hide less-used commands on menus" feature? If you don't use them, you don't see them, at least the more obscure commands. There's a lot less drill down in Word Perfect. Let's just say it is more a word processor for writers than it is for those in huge organizations who "process" documents. It is also a hell of a lot easier to customize and to automate functions, those within the program and new ones, via macros. I started with WordStar for DOS in the 1980s, dumped that for Volkswriter, dumped that for Xywrite for DOS, learned WordPerfect 4.1, moved to Xywrite for Windows, didn't like that, picked up WORD, hated it and still don't like it much, and moved onto Wordperfect for Windows while the programmers were still in Orem, Utah. Then Corel bought it out, it went downhill for a while, but in the last year or two, has gotten better. I have dozens and dozens of macros in WP that I use professionally. Doing the same sorts of things in WORD is either impossible, or very cumbersome. Here you go...this will help: http://wptoolbox.com/ |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:27:06 -0500, HK wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: I'm not asking because I dislike Wordperfect. But, if I already had one word processor installed, I wouldn't bother installing another unless the first one was screwed up in a major way. Fewer commands, fewer options, easier and faster to set up and use or not use "defaults," a lot less of doing it Microsoft's way or no way at all. It's a feeling, as I stated, that it seems faster to me. I find WORD clunky, obtuse, and overstuffed. People who do a lot of writing often prefer WordPerfect. I prefer notepad. --Vic I use wordpad for really simple stuff. No fuss, no muss. I like it a bit better than notepad. My fav of all times was XyWrite for Dos. Used the same front end as the typesetters of those days. |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:31:56 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: Fewer commands? You don't have to use commands that you don't need. And, does your version of Word have the "Hide less-used commands on menus" feature? If you don't use them, you don't see them, at least the more obscure commands. Look, I've fat-fingered Word while writing a simple doc and suddenly had a database, tables, pie chart, and hyperlinks communicating with the space shuttle. That's when I'd give it to somebody else to straighten it out and e-mail it back to me so I could send it out. --Vic |
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On Jan 14, 12:39*pm, HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:30:07 -0500, John H. wrote: Mrs H got an almost free MS Office Enterprise 2007 from her job. We've not had any problems with Office 2000. Running XP. Would you install or not install? It's been a few days since I looked at this thread but I certainly won't be installing this. I'm not ready to take my vows I have the "full" MS Office 2007, which I installed on my desktop. I uninstalled it and went back to Office 2003. I did not like the interface in the 2007 version, and I could not see any "improvements" that made a difference for me. These big office suites are really bloatware. I rarely use anything in 2003 except Excel. For WP, I use Wordperfect. It's a little "lighter" than WORD, and for me it seems faster, too. There's no problem saving files in any file format others might need. How fast does a word processor need to be? *It spends 99% of its existence waiting for humans to type of press a button. What does Wordperfect do faster? I'm not asking because I dislike Wordperfect. But, if I already had one word processor installed, I wouldn't bother installing another unless the first one was screwed up in a major way. Fewer commands, fewer options, easier and faster to set up and use or not use "defaults," *a lot less of doing it Microsoft's way or no way at all. It's a feeling, as I stated, that it seems faster to me. I find WORD clunky, obtuse, and overstuffed. Fewer commands? You don't have to use commands that you don't need. And, does your version of Word have the "Hide less-used commands on menus" feature? If you don't use them, you don't see them, at least the more obscure commands. There's a lot less drill down in Word Perfect. Let's just say it is more a word processor for writers than it is for those in huge organizations who "process" documents. It is also a hell of a lot easier to customize and to automate functions, those within the program and new ones, via macros. I started with WordStar for DOS in the 1980s, dumped that for Volkswriter, dumped that for Xywrite for DOS, learned WordPerfect 4.1, moved to Xywrite for Windows, didn't like that, picked up WORD, hated it and still don't like it much, and moved onto Wordperfect for Windows while the programmers were still in Orem, Utah. Then Corel bought it out, it went downhill for a while, but in the last year or two, has gotten better. I have dozens and dozens of macros in WP that I use professionally. Doing the same sorts of things in WORD is either impossible, or very cumbersome. Here you go...this will help: http://wptoolbox.com/- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - If you need help with Word macros, let me know. I use them every day without any trouble! |
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On Jan 14, 12:39 pm, HK wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:30:07 -0500, John H. wrote: Mrs H got an almost free MS Office Enterprise 2007 from her job. We've not had any problems with Office 2000. Running XP. Would you install or not install? It's been a few days since I looked at this thread but I certainly won't be installing this. I'm not ready to take my vows I have the "full" MS Office 2007, which I installed on my desktop. I uninstalled it and went back to Office 2003. I did not like the interface in the 2007 version, and I could not see any "improvements" that made a difference for me. These big office suites are really bloatware. I rarely use anything in 2003 except Excel. For WP, I use Wordperfect. It's a little "lighter" than WORD, and for me it seems faster, too. There's no problem saving files in any file format others might need. How fast does a word processor need to be? It spends 99% of its existence waiting for humans to type of press a button. What does Wordperfect do faster? I'm not asking because I dislike Wordperfect. But, if I already had one word processor installed, I wouldn't bother installing another unless the first one was screwed up in a major way. Fewer commands, fewer options, easier and faster to set up and use or not use "defaults," a lot less of doing it Microsoft's way or no way at all. It's a feeling, as I stated, that it seems faster to me. I find WORD clunky, obtuse, and overstuffed. Fewer commands? You don't have to use commands that you don't need. And, does your version of Word have the "Hide less-used commands on menus" feature? If you don't use them, you don't see them, at least the more obscure commands. There's a lot less drill down in Word Perfect. Let's just say it is more a word processor for writers than it is for those in huge organizations who "process" documents. It is also a hell of a lot easier to customize and to automate functions, those within the program and new ones, via macros. I started with WordStar for DOS in the 1980s, dumped that for Volkswriter, dumped that for Xywrite for DOS, learned WordPerfect 4.1, moved to Xywrite for Windows, didn't like that, picked up WORD, hated it and still don't like it much, and moved onto Wordperfect for Windows while the programmers were still in Orem, Utah. Then Corel bought it out, it went downhill for a while, but in the last year or two, has gotten better. I have dozens and dozens of macros in WP that I use professionally. Doing the same sorts of things in WORD is either impossible, or very cumbersome. Here you go...this will help: http://wptoolbox.com/- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - If you need help with Word macros, let me know. I use them every day without any trouble! No thanks. |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:31:56 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Fewer commands? You don't have to use commands that you don't need. And, does your version of Word have the "Hide less-used commands on menus" feature? If you don't use them, you don't see them, at least the more obscure commands. Look, I've fat-fingered Word while writing a simple doc and suddenly had a database, tables, pie chart, and hyperlinks communicating with the space shuttle. That's when I'd give it to somebody else to straighten it out and e-mail it back to me so I could send it out. --Vic Just when I think I have all the WORD automated crapola turned off, another example of it rears its ugly head. |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
... On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:31:56 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Fewer commands? You don't have to use commands that you don't need. And, does your version of Word have the "Hide less-used commands on menus" feature? If you don't use them, you don't see them, at least the more obscure commands. Look, I've fat-fingered Word while writing a simple doc and suddenly had a database, tables, pie chart, and hyperlinks communicating with the space shuttle. That's when I'd give it to somebody else to straighten it out and e-mail it back to me so I could send it out. --Vic That's a user problem, not a software problem. You should also avoid using the mouse whenever possible. If you use only the menus, it's next to impossible to screw things up unless you WANT to. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:31:56 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Fewer commands? You don't have to use commands that you don't need. And, does your version of Word have the "Hide less-used commands on menus" feature? If you don't use them, you don't see them, at least the more obscure commands. Look, I've fat-fingered Word while writing a simple doc and suddenly had a database, tables, pie chart, and hyperlinks communicating with the space shuttle. That's when I'd give it to somebody else to straighten it out and e-mail it back to me so I could send it out. --Vic That's a user problem, not a software problem. You should also avoid using the mouse whenever possible. If you use only the menus, it's next to impossible to screw things up unless you WANT to. Why would you presume your experience with WORD to be the same as someone else's who probably uses the program entirely differently, and for different purposes? These big "office productivity" suites are complex, and users interface with them differently. -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever! |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:08:54 -0500, HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:31:56 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Fewer commands? You don't have to use commands that you don't need. And, does your version of Word have the "Hide less-used commands on menus" feature? If you don't use them, you don't see them, at least the more obscure commands. Look, I've fat-fingered Word while writing a simple doc and suddenly had a database, tables, pie chart, and hyperlinks communicating with the space shuttle. That's when I'd give it to somebody else to straighten it out and e-mail it back to me so I could send it out. --Vic That's a user problem, not a software problem. You should also avoid using the mouse whenever possible. If you use only the menus, it's next to impossible to screw things up unless you WANT to. Why would you presume your experience with WORD to be the same as someone else's who probably uses the program entirely differently, and for different purposes? These big "office productivity" suites are complex, and users interface with them differently. He's taking a technical perspective. Some writers still won't use anything but their 1927 Corona. Some boaters won't buy anything but a Parker, or a GB. Personal preference. --Vic |
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... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:31:56 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Fewer commands? You don't have to use commands that you don't need. And, does your version of Word have the "Hide less-used commands on menus" feature? If you don't use them, you don't see them, at least the more obscure commands. Look, I've fat-fingered Word while writing a simple doc and suddenly had a database, tables, pie chart, and hyperlinks communicating with the space shuttle. That's when I'd give it to somebody else to straighten it out and e-mail it back to me so I could send it out. --Vic That's a user problem, not a software problem. You should also avoid using the mouse whenever possible. If you use only the menus, it's next to impossible to screw things up unless you WANT to. Why would you presume your experience with WORD to be the same as someone else's who probably uses the program entirely differently, and for different purposes? These big "office productivity" suites are complex, and users interface with them differently. Maybe I misunderstood what Vic said. My interpretation was that he wanted just words on the page. He said "a simple doc". If all you want to do is type some words, save the doc and maybe print it, those actions take you nowhere near the menus for graphic features. They're all on the File menu. I suppose a spastic mouse movement could cause you to hit toolbar buttons, but that's one of many reasons why professional typists don't use the mouse for the vast majority of work. |
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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:23:53 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |How fast does a word processor need to be? It spends 99% of its existence |waiting for humans to type of press a button. What does Wordperfect do |faster? | |I'm not asking because I dislike Wordperfect. But, if I already had one word |processor installed, I wouldn't bother installing another unless the first |one was screwed up in a major way. | "Speed" may not be the best word. It is all about the intuitiveness of the GUI... the perceived speed. I actually kinda like Word 2007, but it *is* buggy. It has lost track of the "default" printer and, now, refuses to print anything. 2003, whoever, works fine. There is a learning curve with 2007. They are selling the Microsoft Office Ultimate, complete package through my daughters school for something like $59. She wanted to buy it (meaning she wanted me to buy it) until I sent her the reviews. http://www.theultimatesteal.com/home.asp Between Vista and Office they are not having a good year. |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:08:54 -0500, HK wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:31:56 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Fewer commands? You don't have to use commands that you don't need. And, does your version of Word have the "Hide less-used commands on menus" feature? If you don't use them, you don't see them, at least the more obscure commands. Look, I've fat-fingered Word while writing a simple doc and suddenly had a database, tables, pie chart, and hyperlinks communicating with the space shuttle. That's when I'd give it to somebody else to straighten it out and e-mail it back to me so I could send it out. --Vic That's a user problem, not a software problem. You should also avoid using the mouse whenever possible. If you use only the menus, it's next to impossible to screw things up unless you WANT to. Why would you presume your experience with WORD to be the same as someone else's who probably uses the program entirely differently, and for different purposes? These big "office productivity" suites are complex, and users interface with them differently. He's taking a technical perspective. Some writers still won't use anything but their 1927 Corona. Some boaters won't buy anything but a Parker, or a GB. Personal preference. --Vic Why would someone buy a Parker? ;) |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:18:35 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: Maybe I misunderstood what Vic said. My interpretation was that he wanted just words on the page. He said "a simple doc". If all you want to do is type some words, save the doc and maybe print it, those actions take you nowhere near the menus for graphic features. They're all on the File menu. I suppose a spastic mouse movement could cause you to hit toolbar buttons, but that's one of many reasons why professional typists don't use the mouse for the vast majority of work. Nah, they were mostly "official" and a reflection on my "professionalism" so they were fonted, centered, and paginated. Anyway, most of the time I had problems with it was when a nerd tricked it out with all kinds of tabulation, macros, and such. Then I just refused to deal with it. You know, you give some people a hammer, and they turn it into a milling machine. --Vic |
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"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message . .. Vic Smith wrote: On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:08:54 -0500, HK wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:31:56 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Fewer commands? You don't have to use commands that you don't need. And, does your version of Word have the "Hide less-used commands on menus" feature? If you don't use them, you don't see them, at least the more obscure commands. Look, I've fat-fingered Word while writing a simple doc and suddenly had a database, tables, pie chart, and hyperlinks communicating with the space shuttle. That's when I'd give it to somebody else to straighten it out and e-mail it back to me so I could send it out. --Vic That's a user problem, not a software problem. You should also avoid using the mouse whenever possible. If you use only the menus, it's next to impossible to screw things up unless you WANT to. Why would you presume your experience with WORD to be the same as someone else's who probably uses the program entirely differently, and for different purposes? These big "office productivity" suites are complex, and users interface with them differently. He's taking a technical perspective. Some writers still won't use anything but their 1927 Corona. Some boaters won't buy anything but a Parker, or a GB. Personal preference. --Vic Why would someone buy a Parker? ;) Well. They are affordable for one thing. |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
... On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:18:35 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Maybe I misunderstood what Vic said. My interpretation was that he wanted just words on the page. He said "a simple doc". If all you want to do is type some words, save the doc and maybe print it, those actions take you nowhere near the menus for graphic features. They're all on the File menu. I suppose a spastic mouse movement could cause you to hit toolbar buttons, but that's one of many reasons why professional typists don't use the mouse for the vast majority of work. Nah, they were mostly "official" and a reflection on my "professionalism" so they were fonted, centered, and paginated. Anyway, most of the time I had problems with it was when a nerd tricked it out with all kinds of tabulation, macros, and such. Then I just refused to deal with it. You know, you give some people a hammer, and they turn it into a milling machine. --Vic Don't tell anyone else in the group about this page: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/211982 Learn a few of those and you'll be the robocop of word processing. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:18:35 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Maybe I misunderstood what Vic said. My interpretation was that he wanted just words on the page. He said "a simple doc". If all you want to do is type some words, save the doc and maybe print it, those actions take you nowhere near the menus for graphic features. They're all on the File menu. I suppose a spastic mouse movement could cause you to hit toolbar buttons, but that's one of many reasons why professional typists don't use the mouse for the vast majority of work. Nah, they were mostly "official" and a reflection on my "professionalism" so they were fonted, centered, and paginated. Anyway, most of the time I had problems with it was when a nerd tricked it out with all kinds of tabulation, macros, and such. Then I just refused to deal with it. You know, you give some people a hammer, and they turn it into a milling machine. --Vic Don't tell anyone else in the group about this page: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/211982 Learn a few of those and you'll be the robocop of word processing. Then what, get a job as a secretary? |
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... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:18:35 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Maybe I misunderstood what Vic said. My interpretation was that he wanted just words on the page. He said "a simple doc". If all you want to do is type some words, save the doc and maybe print it, those actions take you nowhere near the menus for graphic features. They're all on the File menu. I suppose a spastic mouse movement could cause you to hit toolbar buttons, but that's one of many reasons why professional typists don't use the mouse for the vast majority of work. Nah, they were mostly "official" and a reflection on my "professionalism" so they were fonted, centered, and paginated. Anyway, most of the time I had problems with it was when a nerd tricked it out with all kinds of tabulation, macros, and such. Then I just refused to deal with it. You know, you give some people a hammer, and they turn it into a milling machine. --Vic Don't tell anyone else in the group about this page: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/211982 Learn a few of those and you'll be the robocop of word processing. Then what, get a job as a secretary? There *are* advantages. My monitor died one day while I was working on a spreadsheet. I managed to finish the spreadsheet successfully and print it. It was 80% done anyway, but still....keystroke shortcuts saved the day. And, you have to be a masochist to use the mouse to save a doc instead of just hitting CTRL-S. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:18:35 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Maybe I misunderstood what Vic said. My interpretation was that he wanted just words on the page. He said "a simple doc". If all you want to do is type some words, save the doc and maybe print it, those actions take you nowhere near the menus for graphic features. They're all on the File menu. I suppose a spastic mouse movement could cause you to hit toolbar buttons, but that's one of many reasons why professional typists don't use the mouse for the vast majority of work. Nah, they were mostly "official" and a reflection on my "professionalism" so they were fonted, centered, and paginated. Anyway, most of the time I had problems with it was when a nerd tricked it out with all kinds of tabulation, macros, and such. Then I just refused to deal with it. You know, you give some people a hammer, and they turn it into a milling machine. --Vic Don't tell anyone else in the group about this page: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/211982 Learn a few of those and you'll be the robocop of word processing. Then what, get a job as a secretary? There *are* advantages. My monitor died one day while I was working on a spreadsheet. I managed to finish the spreadsheet successfully and print it. It was 80% done anyway, but still....keystroke shortcuts saved the day. And, you have to be a masochist to use the mouse to save a doc instead of just hitting CTRL-S. Sure. Everyone who uses a WP frequently learns keystroke shortcuts. BTW, have you seen Charlie Wilson's War? His assistants and secretaries were not picked for their WP skills. |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:53:25 -0500, HK wrote:
BTW, have you seen Charlie Wilson's War? His assistants and secretaries were not picked for their WP skills. There was a time when I was thinking of exclusively recruiting hot babes, give them some rudimentary programming training, and bill them out for 65 @ hour. IT client managers were suckers for that when times were "good." The good times didn't last long enough to implement the plan. Or maybe there just weren't enough hot babes. Can't remember. --Vic |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:33:13 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:27:06 -0500, HK wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: I'm not asking because I dislike Wordperfect. But, if I already had one word processor installed, I wouldn't bother installing another unless the first one was screwed up in a major way. Fewer commands, fewer options, easier and faster to set up and use or not use "defaults," a lot less of doing it Microsoft's way or no way at all. It's a feeling, as I stated, that it seems faster to me. I find WORD clunky, obtuse, and overstuffed. People who do a lot of writing often prefer WordPerfect. I prefer notepad. --Vic I like Post-its. -- John H |
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"HK" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:18:35 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Maybe I misunderstood what Vic said. My interpretation was that he wanted just words on the page. He said "a simple doc". If all you want to do is type some words, save the doc and maybe print it, those actions take you nowhere near the menus for graphic features. They're all on the File menu. I suppose a spastic mouse movement could cause you to hit toolbar buttons, but that's one of many reasons why professional typists don't use the mouse for the vast majority of work. Nah, they were mostly "official" and a reflection on my "professionalism" so they were fonted, centered, and paginated. Anyway, most of the time I had problems with it was when a nerd tricked it out with all kinds of tabulation, macros, and such. Then I just refused to deal with it. You know, you give some people a hammer, and they turn it into a milling machine. --Vic Don't tell anyone else in the group about this page: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/211982 Learn a few of those and you'll be the robocop of word processing. Then what, get a job as a secretary? There *are* advantages. My monitor died one day while I was working on a spreadsheet. I managed to finish the spreadsheet successfully and print it. It was 80% done anyway, but still....keystroke shortcuts saved the day. And, you have to be a masochist to use the mouse to save a doc instead of just hitting CTRL-S. Sure. Everyone who uses a WP frequently learns keystroke shortcuts. BTW, have you seen Charlie Wilson's War? His assistants and secretaries were not picked for their WP skills. Harry's got sex on his mind. He must be footloose and fancy free. Watch out girls. Romeo Krause is on the prowl. |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:21:46 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:33:13 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:27:06 -0500, HK wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: I'm not asking because I dislike Wordperfect. But, if I already had one word processor installed, I wouldn't bother installing another unless the first one was screwed up in a major way. Fewer commands, fewer options, easier and faster to set up and use or not use "defaults," a lot less of doing it Microsoft's way or no way at all. It's a feeling, as I stated, that it seems faster to me. I find WORD clunky, obtuse, and overstuffed. People who do a lot of writing often prefer WordPerfect. I prefer notepad. --Vic I like Post-its. You mean the paper stickums or a computer version? If it's on the PC, where can I get it, and what do you use it for? I could use some "reminder" type deal. Putting a string on my finger hurts after a while. --Vic |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:26:25 -0500, Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Between Vista and Office they are not having a good year. And the OS and Office are the only two product lines Microsoft makes money on. Considering the lengthy product development cycle, not good for MS at all. |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:53:25 -0500, HK wrote: BTW, have you seen Charlie Wilson's War? His assistants and secretaries were not picked for their WP skills. There was a time when I was thinking of exclusively recruiting hot babes, give them some rudimentary programming training, and bill them out for 65 @ hour. IT client managers were suckers for that when times were "good." The good times didn't last long enough to implement the plan. Or maybe there just weren't enough hot babes. Can't remember. --Vic I only got to hire a "hot babe" once. I was working for a consortium of organizations, and the office manager/personnel director insisted I hire a secretary, even though I did not need one, did my own typing, and list processing and maintenance was handled by an outside contractor. There literally was nothing for a clerical assistant to do. But there were other execs who needed the help, and they were not on the list for a secretary. Go figure. Anyway, this was in my much younger days, so I interviewed and simply hired the best looking young babe that applied. She stayed for about eight months, then moved on to a job where the employer was more appreciative of her skills. The only skills I ever noted were how yummy she looked in a sweater and tight skirt. She did get coffee. Oink. |
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JimH wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message You mean the paper stickums or a computer version? If it's on the PC, where can I get it, and what do you use it for? I could use some "reminder" type deal. Putting a string on my finger hurts after a while. --Vic http://www.3m.com/us/office/postit/d...tal_notes.html VISTA has a post-it appy. |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:46:02 -0500, "JimH" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message You mean the paper stickums or a computer version? If it's on the PC, where can I get it, and what do you use it for? I could use some "reminder" type deal. Putting a string on my finger hurts after a while. --Vic http://www.3m.com/us/office/postit/d...tal_notes.html Thanks! I've installed the trial version. --Vic |
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"JimH" wrote in message
... "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... You mean the paper stickums or a computer version? If it's on the PC, where can I get it, and what do you use it for? I could use some "reminder" type deal. Putting a string on my finger hurts after a while. --Vic This one is free: http://dnl.crawlertools.com/install/...FQ66PAodPzP12w http://tinyurl.com/2of6lv .....but a quick glance at the terms of use suggests it is not private. "CRAWLER MAKES NO REPRESENTATION OR WARRANTY THAT CRAWLER SERVICES WILL MEET YOUR REQUIREMENTS, THAT CRAWLER SERVICES WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED, SECURE, CURRENT OR ERROR-FREE," |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
... On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:46:02 -0500, "JimH" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message You mean the paper stickums or a computer version? If it's on the PC, where can I get it, and what do you use it for? I could use some "reminder" type deal. Putting a string on my finger hurts after a while. --Vic http://www.3m.com/us/office/postit/d...tal_notes.html Thanks! I've installed the trial version. --Vic Please report back about how you like it. |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:40:54 -0500, HK wrote:
My fav of all times was XyWrite for Dos. Used the same front end as the typesetters of those days. Something like Lyx? There is a Windows port. http://www.lyx.org/ |
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