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On Jan 11, 12:56*pm, BAR wrote:
HK wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:46:52 -0500, HK wrote: How do I know that? Well, I've sawed plywood and oak and built small boats Bovine excrement. *You might have watched other people do it but there's no chance you have ever built a complete boat from scratch and finished it. *If so, you'd have a lot more respect for the skills of others. How long did it take you to run your father's old boatyard into the ground? *And what about all of those old world craftsmen who lost their jobs as a result? A. As previously stated, I built plywood dinghies and small skiffs. When I was a real youngster, someone else would cut the pieces out of sheets for me on the electric saws, but after that I was on my own for assembly and finishing. There were plenty of guys around to help if I needed it. It's not that difficult. These were simple boats, simply finished. I was probably 10 or 11 when I cut the plywood from patterns I traced. It did not take a lot of woodworking skill to build these boats. We used bronze nails and screws to assemble the pieces. "Finishing" them consisted of being patient with sanders and sanding blocks, taking the boats into the painting shed, staining, putting on three coats of Petit marine varnish, and installing oarlocks and deck hardware. Did you have the proper training and were you holding a union card when you built these boats. B. After my father died, I took over and in fairly short order, sold all the boat, motor and parts inventory. I had no interest in running the boat store or marina, and put the real estate up for sale. Most of the guys who worked for my father were "moonlighters" from places like Sikorsky or White Truck or other such places, typically guys whose main employers kept promoting them until they no longer were able to work with their hands. They were all long-time friends of my father and either found other "hobby" jobs or something else to do with their time. They were natural and highly trained mechanics and craftworkers, boaters all, and could fix the engines of their era in their sleep. The marina property sold quickly. The store on the old Boston Post Road took longer, and, in fact, was sold by two of my boyhood friends, one of whom was my father's lawyer and the other, his accountant. Last time I drove by there, a dozen or so years ago, there was a fairly large strip shopping center on the site. The marina site was supposed to go condo, but I don't know. Never been back there. My uncle (my father's older brother) and I had been after my father to sell out for years, and to retire. My uncle had retired from his business in 1970 and moved to Boca with his wife. He played 18 rounds of golf almost every day and lived to be 90. My father died at 60. For what the real property realized, he and my mother could have had a long, carefree retirement. My mother sure did. How's your knowledge of what simple, small wooden boats sold for in the 1950s, Wayne? Still faulty, I bet.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The thing is, after all this rhetoric, he has stated in the past that he has not built a boat... I tend to beleive the former, based on comments he has made that just don't add up to boatbuilder.. even crappy little ones like mine...;) |
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On Jan 11, 3:50*pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote: wrote: On Jan 11, 12:56 pm, BAR wrote: HK wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:46:52 -0500, HK wrote: How do I know that? Well, I've sawed plywood and oak and built small boats Bovine excrement. *You might have watched other people do it but there's no chance you have ever built a complete boat from scratch and finished it. *If so, you'd have a lot more respect for the skills of others. How long did it take you to run your father's old boatyard into the ground? *And what about all of those old world craftsmen who lost their jobs as a result? A. As previously stated, I built plywood dinghies and small skiffs. When I was a real youngster, someone else would cut the pieces out of sheets for me on the electric saws, but after that I was on my own for assembly and finishing. There were plenty of guys around to help if I needed it.. It's not that difficult. These were simple boats, simply finished. I was probably 10 or 11 when I cut the plywood from patterns I traced. It did not take a lot of woodworking skill to build these boats. We used bronze nails and screws to assemble the pieces. "Finishing" them consisted of being patient with sanders and sanding blocks, taking the boats into the painting shed, staining, putting on three coats of Petit marine varnish, and installing oarlocks and deck hardware. Did you have the proper training and were you holding a union card when you built these boats. B. After my father died, I took over and in fairly short order, sold all the boat, motor and parts inventory. I had no interest in running the boat store or marina, and put the real estate up for sale. Most of the guys who worked for my father were "moonlighters" from places like Sikorsky or White Truck or other such places, typically guys whose main employers kept promoting them until they no longer were able to work with their hands. They were all long-time friends of my father and either found other "hobby" jobs or something else to do with their time. They were natural and highly trained mechanics and craftworkers, boaters all, and could fix the engines of their era in their sleep. The marina property sold quickly. The store on the old Boston Post Road took longer, and, in fact, was sold by two of my boyhood friends, one of whom was my father's lawyer and the other, his accountant. Last time I drove by there, a dozen or so years ago, there was a fairly large strip shopping center on the site. The marina site was supposed to go condo, but I don't know. Never been back there. My uncle (my father's older brother) and I had been after my father to sell out for years, and to retire. My uncle had retired from his business in 1970 and moved to Boca with his wife. He played 18 rounds of golf almost every day and lived to be 90. My father died at 60. For what the real property realized, he and my mother could have had a long, carefree retirement. My mother sure did. How's your knowledge of what simple, small wooden boats sold for in the 1950s, Wayne? Still faulty, I bet.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The thing is, after all this rhetoric, he has stated in the past that he has not built a boat... I tend to beleive the former, based on comments he has made that just don't add up to boatbuilder.. even crappy little ones like mine...;) Are you saying Harry would lie?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes. |
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:02:06 -0500, HK wrote:
wrote: On Jan 11, 12:56 pm, BAR wrote: HK wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:46:52 -0500, HK wrote: How do I know that? Well, I've sawed plywood and oak and built small boats Bovine excrement. You might have watched other people do it but there's no chance you have ever built a complete boat from scratch and finished it. If so, you'd have a lot more respect for the skills of others. How long did it take you to run your father's old boatyard into the ground? And what about all of those old world craftsmen who lost their jobs as a result? A. As previously stated, I built plywood dinghies and small skiffs. When I was a real youngster, someone else would cut the pieces out of sheets for me on the electric saws, but after that I was on my own for assembly and finishing. There were plenty of guys around to help if I needed it. It's not that difficult. These were simple boats, simply finished. I was probably 10 or 11 when I cut the plywood from patterns I traced. It did not take a lot of woodworking skill to build these boats. We used bronze nails and screws to assemble the pieces. "Finishing" them consisted of being patient with sanders and sanding blocks, taking the boats into the painting shed, staining, putting on three coats of Petit marine varnish, and installing oarlocks and deck hardware. Did you have the proper training and were you holding a union card when you built these boats. B. After my father died, I took over and in fairly short order, sold all the boat, motor and parts inventory. I had no interest in running the boat store or marina, and put the real estate up for sale. Most of the guys who worked for my father were "moonlighters" from places like Sikorsky or White Truck or other such places, typically guys whose main employers kept promoting them until they no longer were able to work with their hands. They were all long-time friends of my father and either found other "hobby" jobs or something else to do with their time. They were natural and highly trained mechanics and craftworkers, boaters all, and could fix the engines of their era in their sleep. The marina property sold quickly. The store on the old Boston Post Road took longer, and, in fact, was sold by two of my boyhood friends, one of whom was my father's lawyer and the other, his accountant. Last time I drove by there, a dozen or so years ago, there was a fairly large strip shopping center on the site. The marina site was supposed to go condo, but I don't know. Never been back there. My uncle (my father's older brother) and I had been after my father to sell out for years, and to retire. My uncle had retired from his business in 1970 and moved to Boca with his wife. He played 18 rounds of golf almost every day and lived to be 90. My father died at 60. For what the real property realized, he and my mother could have had a long, carefree retirement. My mother sure did. How's your knowledge of what simple, small wooden boats sold for in the 1950s, Wayne? Still faulty, I bet.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The thing is, after all this rhetoric, he has stated in the past that he has not built a boat... I tend to beleive the former, based on comments he has made that just don't add up to boatbuilder.. even crappy little ones like mine...;) Yeah, well, I never considered putting together little dinghies and skiffs out of sheets of plywood as "boat building." I'm old enough to have visited real wood boatbuilders when I was a kid, real boatbuilders like Bill Luder, from whom my father bought a boat. We visited Luder's yard at least once a year to look around. Luder had a number of still famous apprentices, too, like Ted Brewer. They are boatbuilders. And the guy who built that lovely pilothouse - the Miss Rebecca/Jack Tar - he is a boatbuilder. I just built cheap little prams and a couple of skiffs. Hardly what I would consider skilled boatbuilding. The prams were for folks who wanted a little rowboat for their kids, or who didn't want to buy a much more expensive Dyer dink. Harry, this is not a barb. I just want to let you know that there is *at least* one person here who believes you. He might live in Cleveland or someplace, but I'm sure he exists. Hopefully, that'll make you feel better. -- John H |
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:57:28 -0500, WaIIy wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:14:24 -0500, John H. wrote: Thanks, Wally. I've downloaded and installed Karen's Replicator. Seems to be exactly what I was looking for. Now I have to decide what, besides my documents, I want to back up. I appreciate the assistance. -- John H Hey John, no problem. If I remember correctly, you live in AL and I'm glad to help out a neighbor. That's my southern accent comin' out. Actually I live in Virginia. -- John H |
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... On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:09:22 -0500, wrote: One is a file/fax/weather station and scanner server. One is this machine that I use a lot for all different things and one is my wifes shopping/ma jong/email/solitaire machine. Then they get rebooted, and as I said, your claim that they never get rebooted is hyperbole. My wife treats her machine like the phone. She doesn't even have a clue how to reboot it. Pull the plug is all she knows. Thay doesn't happen often and I hear about it Heh. Sounds like my ex: "I don't do technology." :-) |
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HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:21:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:07:37 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... I have a 160 GB external hard disk to which I tried to back up my documents and settings using the Windows backup system. After about a half hour, I get a message saying there's not enough room for the backup, and that if the hard disk is FAT 32, the backup can be no larger than 4 GB. So I checked, and sure enough, the external HD is FAT 32. Now what? I already have about 50 GB of stuff on the external HD that I don't want to lose by reformatting (if that's what's required). -- John H When you get this working properly, where will the external hard drive be kept most of the time? One step at a time, Doug. That issue was part of why I suggested the idea of buying another drive for this project to John. :') Small enough to fit his safe deposit box at the bank, right? :-) Probably, but that wouldn't be such a great spot for it. As I'm SURE you know, the biggest failure of any backup plan is that if it is too inconvenient, it won't get done. A backup stored onsite is 1000% better than a backup that doesn't get done. I do my backup onto an external drive and bring it to the office. John doesn't have an office. So, when his "onsite" burns to the ground, there goes his backup hardware, too. I'm in the same situation. I have a choice to make: Two sets of media, one of which I can't get to if the bank is closed. Or, no off-site media, and then I'm phuqued if the place burns down. Off site doesn't mean the backup doesn't get done. Use the one at home for a week, then take it to the the safe deposit box and swap for the other one. Or, someone else's house. Anything's better than storing all your backup media in the same building. No sane corporation does that, unless they have a storage arrangement like a bank's. Feh. I bought a used "two hour" fire safe at a bankruptcy auction to store papers, valuables, guns and my computer backup drives. I also use an "on-line" storage site to hold important data files. The safe was a "steal," but it cost me mucho dinero to get it delivered and brought into the basement. Damn thing must weigh at least half a ton. Keep telling yourself that, Harry. Get better soon! |
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HK wrote:
wrote: Damn! So, what sort of boat do you own, and where do you keep it? This asshole is amazing! He posts his narcissistic diatribe over and over and he still has the balls to ask for this sort of personal information from someone else. |
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