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HK January 11th 08 02:33 PM

Help needed - Computer stuff
 
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:09:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Have you tried Norton NDD? It fixes lots of stuff CHKDSK and
ScanDisk
can't.
No. I don't have anything Norton. For some reason, from many
years ago, I
got a bad taste in my mouth from Norton. Don't remember the details.
--
Probably that lousy anti-virus software or something that happened
when Symantec took over. When it was Peter Norton, they did some
great
things with disk recovery software. I have taken "broken" drives out
of the trash and fixed them with NDD.

http://esteroriverheights.com/electrical/norton/


They had an excellent backup software product, too. It was an
un-raped version of the piece 'o **** that came with Windows back
in the day. It was so good, they discontinued it.



Just another example of what happens when a BIG corporation takes
over another company. Almost invariably, the smaller company's
product line is examined by the bigger company's MBAs and then
turned into crap.

And, just like hiring union labor. Productivity drops and costs
increase. Why can't I plug this into the outlet? Because you are not
a union electrician. But, if I was at home I could plug it in? Your
house is not a union shop.


Yawn. I doubt you'd be technically qualified to hold *any* skilled
union job. Your current employment of changing toner cartridges in HP
laserjets doesn't require much skill.


I don't need to hold a union job I am one of those highly paid white
collar workers and have been since I was 17.


The posit was that you were not qualified to hold a skilled union job.
Obviously reading comprehension is not required on your job.

Since 17, when you dropped out of high school? What white collar job did
you hold in the marine corps? Company stapler?

John H.[_3_] January 11th 08 02:38 PM

Help needed - Computer stuff
 
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:30:48 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 11, 8:11*am, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:09:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:


Have you tried Norton NDD? It fixes lots of stuff CHKDSK and ScanDisk
can't.
No. I don't have anything Norton. For some reason, from many years
ago, I
got a bad taste in my mouth from Norton. Don't remember the details.
--
Probably that lousy anti-virus software or something that happened
when Symantec took over. When it was Peter Norton, they did some great
things with disk recovery software. I have taken "broken" drives out
of the trash and fixed them with NDD.


http://esteroriverheights.com/electrical/norton/

They had an excellent backup software product, too. It was an
un-raped version of the piece 'o **** that came with Windows back in
the day. It was so good, they discontinued it.


Just another example of what happens when a BIG corporation takes over
another company. Almost invariably, the smaller company's product line
is examined by the bigger company's MBAs and then turned into crap.


And, just like hiring union labor. Productivity drops and costs
increase. Why can't I plug this into the outlet? Because you are not a
union electrician. But, if I was at home I could plug it in? Your house
is not a union shop.


Yawn. I doubt you'd be technically qualified to hold *any* skilled union
job. Your current employment of changing toner cartridges in HP
laserjets doesn't require much skill.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


But parts changers for broken cameras! That is skilled union labor..
"Where is the top left screw guy"??


LOL!
--
John H

HK January 11th 08 02:46 PM

Help needed - Computer stuff
 
wrote:
On Jan 11, 8:11 am, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:09:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:
Have you tried Norton NDD? It fixes lots of stuff CHKDSK and ScanDisk
can't.
No. I don't have anything Norton. For some reason, from many years
ago, I
got a bad taste in my mouth from Norton. Don't remember the details.
--
Probably that lousy anti-virus software or something that happened
when Symantec took over. When it was Peter Norton, they did some great
things with disk recovery software. I have taken "broken" drives out
of the trash and fixed them with NDD.
http://esteroriverheights.com/electrical/norton/
They had an excellent backup software product, too. It was an
un-raped version of the piece 'o **** that came with Windows back in
the day. It was so good, they discontinued it.
Just another example of what happens when a BIG corporation takes over
another company. Almost invariably, the smaller company's product line
is examined by the bigger company's MBAs and then turned into crap.
And, just like hiring union labor. Productivity drops and costs
increase. Why can't I plug this into the outlet? Because you are not a
union electrician. But, if I was at home I could plug it in? Your house
is not a union shop.

Yawn. I doubt you'd be technically qualified to hold *any* skilled union
job. Your current employment of changing toner cartridges in HP
laserjets doesn't require much skill.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


But parts changers for broken cameras! That is skilled union labor..
"Where is the top left screw guy"??



Is it? I wouldn't know. I do know that disassembly of a camera,
diagnosing its ills, and repairing small electronic or mechanical parts
requires more skill than sawing plywood and stitching and gluing it
together.

How do I know that? Well, I've sawed plywood and oak and built small
boats, albeit the old-fashioned way, not via stitch and glue. That
doesn't take much skill. I've watched a technician take apart a modern
SLR. That required a high level of watchmaker's skills. I don't have those.

The boats on your site are similar to the "Dad and Kid" learn how to
build a boat one day classes held around here.


--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Don White January 11th 08 03:53 PM

Help needed - Computer stuff
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
snip....

Since 17, when you dropped out of high school? What white collar job did
you hold in the marine corps? Company stapler?


~~ SNERK ~~



Wayne.B January 11th 08 03:58 PM

Help needed - Computer stuff
 
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:46:52 -0500, HK wrote:

How do I know that? Well, I've sawed plywood and oak and built small
boats


Bovine excrement. You might have watched other people do it but
there's no chance you have ever built a complete boat from scratch and
finished it. If so, you'd have a lot more respect for the skills of
others.

How long did it take you to run your father's old boatyard into the
ground? And what about all of those old world craftsmen who lost
their jobs as a result?


BAR January 11th 08 04:07 PM

Help needed - Computer stuff
 
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 11, 8:11 am, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:09:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:
Have you tried Norton NDD? It fixes lots of stuff CHKDSK and
ScanDisk
can't.
No. I don't have anything Norton. For some reason, from many years
ago, I
got a bad taste in my mouth from Norton. Don't remember the
details.
--
Probably that lousy anti-virus software or something that happened
when Symantec took over. When it was Peter Norton, they did some
great
things with disk recovery software. I have taken "broken" drives out
of the trash and fixed them with NDD.
http://esteroriverheights.com/electrical/norton/
They had an excellent backup software product, too. It was an
un-raped version of the piece 'o **** that came with Windows back in
the day. It was so good, they discontinued it.
Just another example of what happens when a BIG corporation takes over
another company. Almost invariably, the smaller company's product line
is examined by the bigger company's MBAs and then turned into crap.
And, just like hiring union labor. Productivity drops and costs
increase. Why can't I plug this into the outlet? Because you are not a
union electrician. But, if I was at home I could plug it in? Your house
is not a union shop.
Yawn. I doubt you'd be technically qualified to hold *any* skilled union
job. Your current employment of changing toner cartridges in HP
laserjets doesn't require much skill.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


But parts changers for broken cameras! That is skilled union labor..
"Where is the top left screw guy"??



Is it? I wouldn't know. I do know that disassembly of a camera,
diagnosing its ills, and repairing small electronic or mechanical parts
requires more skill than sawing plywood and stitching and gluing it
together.


But, does it require one to hold a union card to do the camera work?

How do I know that? Well, I've sawed plywood and oak and built small
boats, albeit the old-fashioned way, not via stitch and glue. That
doesn't take much skill. I've watched a technician take apart a modern
SLR. That required a high level of watchmaker's skills. I don't have those.


Did the technician taking the modern camera apart really need a union card?

The boats on your site are similar to the "Dad and Kid" learn how to
build a boat one day classes held around here.


Jealousy


HK January 11th 08 04:42 PM

Help needed - Computer stuff
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:46:52 -0500, HK wrote:

How do I know that? Well, I've sawed plywood and oak and built small
boats


Bovine excrement. You might have watched other people do it but
there's no chance you have ever built a complete boat from scratch and
finished it. If so, you'd have a lot more respect for the skills of
others.

How long did it take you to run your father's old boatyard into the
ground? And what about all of those old world craftsmen who lost
their jobs as a result?



A. As previously stated, I built plywood dinghies and small skiffs. When
I was a real youngster, someone else would cut the pieces out of sheets
for me on the electric saws, but after that I was on my own for assembly
and finishing. There were plenty of guys around to help if I needed it.
It's not that difficult. These were simple boats, simply finished. I was
probably 10 or 11 when I cut the plywood from patterns I traced. It did
not take a lot of woodworking skill to build these boats. We used bronze
nails and screws to assemble the pieces. "Finishing" them consisted of
being patient with sanders and sanding blocks, taking the boats into the
painting shed, staining, putting on three coats of Petit marine varnish,
and installing oarlocks and deck hardware.


B. After my father died, I took over and in fairly short order, sold all
the boat, motor and parts inventory. I had no interest in running the
boat store or marina, and put the real estate up for sale. Most of the
guys who worked for my father were "moonlighters" from places like
Sikorsky or White Truck or other such places, typically guys whose main
employers kept promoting them until they no longer were able to work
with their hands. They were all long-time friends of my father and
either found other "hobby" jobs or something else to do with their time.
They were natural and highly trained mechanics and craftworkers, boaters
all, and could fix the engines of their era in their sleep.

The marina property sold quickly. The store on the old Boston Post Road
took longer, and, in fact, was sold by two of my boyhood friends, one of
whom was my father's lawyer and the other, his accountant. Last time I
drove by there, a dozen or so years ago, there was a fairly large strip
shopping center on the site. The marina site was supposed to go condo,
but I don't know. Never been back there.

My uncle (my father's older brother) and I had been after my father to
sell out for years, and to retire. My uncle had retired from his
business in 1970 and moved to Boca with his wife. He played 18 rounds of
golf almost every day and lived to be 90. My father died at 60. For what
the real property realized, he and my mother could have had a long,
carefree retirement. My mother sure did.


How's your knowledge of what simple, small wooden boats sold for in the
1950s, Wayne? Still faulty, I bet.







Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] January 11th 08 04:48 PM

Help needed - Computer stuff
 
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:46:52 -0500, HK wrote:

How do I know that? Well, I've sawed plywood and oak and built small
boats


Bovine excrement. You might have watched other people do it but
there's no chance you have ever built a complete boat from scratch and
finished it. If so, you'd have a lot more respect for the skills of
others.

How long did it take you to run your father's old boatyard into the
ground? And what about all of those old world craftsmen who lost
their jobs as a result?



A. As previously stated, I built plywood dinghies and small skiffs. When
I was a real youngster, someone else would cut the pieces out of sheets
for me on the electric saws, but after that I was on my own for assembly
and finishing. There were plenty of guys around to help if I needed it.
It's not that difficult. These were simple boats, simply finished. I was
probably 10 or 11 when I cut the plywood from patterns I traced. It did
not take a lot of woodworking skill to build these boats. We used bronze
nails and screws to assemble the pieces. "Finishing" them consisted of
being patient with sanders and sanding blocks, taking the boats into the
painting shed, staining, putting on three coats of Petit marine varnish,
and installing oarlocks and deck hardware.


Harry, It is amazing how every day, I learn of a new skill you excelled
at. You are one amazing dude.

Since you are one amazing guy, why are you always so jealous of others?





JoeSpareBedroom January 11th 08 07:06 PM

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wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:02:11 GMT, wrote:

I have machines around here that run 24/7 and never get rebooted.


Sorry, but that is an exaggeration, unless you just boot them and
never use them, or you possibly meant they run for 24 hours a day for
a week between reboots. :')

There is a reason for that. Win9x was designed with a fixed 64kb of
system resources. As programs are opened and closed, system resources
are used. Not all are returned when you close a program. Eventually,
you run out of resources and your computer locks up or blue screens.
At that point, you have no alternative except to do a reboot. Ther is
no way around that.

Win XP and 2000 are completely different and do not have this well
documented limitation.


One is a file/fax/weather station and scanner server. One is this
machine that I use a lot for all different things and one is my wifes
shopping/ma jong/email/solitaire machine.

I suspect you explain the AOL problem. Once that has been loaded the
machine is wounded but I haven't seen it with better behaved programs.



PC Magazine once documented the behavior with quite a long list of popular
programs, and not broke-dick hack products, either. Mainstream stuff from
multiple companies.



JoeSpareBedroom January 11th 08 07:12 PM

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wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:17:22 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

When I ran WIN98SE, I saw
the problem you described all the time, except on occasional weekends when
I
knew I'd be getting massive numbers of faxes, so I'd restart the machine
late Friday, turn on Winfax, and let it run all weekend. Monday morning,
the
machine still ran briskly.


That is true. I am running FaxWorks, HPCopy, HeavyWeather, HW
Puiblisher and the drivers to get a USB drive going on the network
(the biggest problem). It just runs. I am not sure I have ever
rebooted it because it was broke.

The only time I consciously reboot this machine is when I am burning a
DVD. I suppose it is that resource problem and I bet you that problem
is related to Internet Exploder not letting go of stuff.
If I just run Firefox I don't see that on this machine. I may try
burning a DVD some time when I have been working for a while but I
know never loaded AOL or IE. (the buggy part of AOL)



Why bet? Reboot, DON'T start IE, and try burning a DVD. The problem may lie
with the caching during the burn procedure. When burners first became
available, this was a huge problem until software writers figured out that
they should pay attention to the OS their products will be running on.




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