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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in
particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody
put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted
it one solid color of dull beige.
I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on
the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have
yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :}

Here's a Parker.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17

Here's a similar Steiger.

http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45

Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it.

Even in monochrome.



And much, much less quality where it counts. I've seen Steigers and
Parkers side by side and have crawled aboard both. But some buyers are
interested in flash, and others are not.


It would be interesting to see an honest, head to head evaluation by a
knowledgeable reviewer.
What stood out to me was the Parker's 16 degree versus 21 degree deadrise on
the Steiger.

It would be interesting to see how they each handled the same seas.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in
particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody
put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted
it one solid color of dull beige.
I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on
the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have
yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :}
Here's a Parker.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17

Here's a similar Steiger.

http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45

Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it.

Even in monochrome.


And much, much less quality where it counts. I've seen Steigers and
Parkers side by side and have crawled aboard both. But some buyers are
interested in flash, and others are not.


It would be interesting to see an honest, head to head evaluation by a
knowledgeable reviewer.
What stood out to me was the Parker's 16 degree versus 21 degree deadrise on
the Steiger.

It would be interesting to see how they each handled the same seas.

Eisboch




Parker offers different boats with different amounts of deadrise, as
does Steiger. They are direct competitors.

"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in
particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody
put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted
it one solid color of dull beige.
I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on
the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have
yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :}
Here's a Parker.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17

Here's a similar Steiger.

http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45

Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it.

Even in monochrome.


And much, much less quality where it counts. I've seen Steigers and
Parkers side by side and have crawled aboard both. But some buyers are
interested in flash, and others are not.


It would be interesting to see an honest, head to head evaluation by a
knowledgeable reviewer.
What stood out to me was the Parker's 16 degree versus 21 degree deadrise
on the Steiger.

It would be interesting to see how they each handled the same seas.

Eisboch


Parker offers different boats with different amounts of deadrise, as does
Steiger. They are direct competitors.

I understand. But the two 25 footers in discussion are only 2" different in
LOA and are of the same style.

Or are you saying that both build 25 footers with different deadrise
options? I doubt it.

Eisboch

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"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in
particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody
put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted
it one solid color of dull beige.
I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on
the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have
yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :}
Here's a Parker.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17

Here's a similar Steiger.

http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45

Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it.

Even in monochrome.

And much, much less quality where it counts. I've seen Steigers and
Parkers side by side and have crawled aboard both. But some buyers are
interested in flash, and others are not.

It would be interesting to see an honest, head to head evaluation by a
knowledgeable reviewer.
What stood out to me was the Parker's 16 degree versus 21 degree deadrise
on the Steiger.

It would be interesting to see how they each handled the same seas.

Eisboch

Parker offers different boats with different amounts of deadrise, as does
Steiger. They are direct competitors.

I understand. But the two 25 footers in discussion are only 2" different in
LOA and are of the same style.

Or are you saying that both build 25 footers with different deadrise
options? I doubt it.

Eisboch




Yeah, Parker does. I believe Steiger does, too. In fact, Steiger only
recently started building hulls with 21 degrees of deadrise.

But you are entitled to your doubts.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me -
in
particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like
somebody
put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then
painted
it one solid color of dull beige.
I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes
on the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would
have yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :}
Here's a Parker.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17

Here's a similar Steiger.

http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45

Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it.

Even in monochrome.

And much, much less quality where it counts. I've seen Steigers and
Parkers side by side and have crawled aboard both. But some buyers are
interested in flash, and others are not.

It would be interesting to see an honest, head to head evaluation by a
knowledgeable reviewer.
What stood out to me was the Parker's 16 degree versus 21 degree
deadrise on the Steiger.

It would be interesting to see how they each handled the same seas.

Eisboch

Parker offers different boats with different amounts of deadrise, as
does Steiger. They are direct competitors.

I understand. But the two 25 footers in discussion are only 2" different
in LOA and are of the same style.

Or are you saying that both build 25 footers with different deadrise
options? I doubt it.

Eisboch




Well, sure enough. Although, it's not an option on each model. Different
models have a different deadrise ... either 16 degrees or 21 degrees.

It still would be interesting to sea trial the two similar boats that was
the subject of this thread ... the Parker with a 16 degree and the Steigers
with a 21 degree deadrise.

Eisboch

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me -
in
particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like
somebody
put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then
painted
it one solid color of dull beige.
I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes
on the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would
have yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :}
Here's a Parker.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17

Here's a similar Steiger.

http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45

Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it.

Even in monochrome.
And much, much less quality where it counts. I've seen Steigers and
Parkers side by side and have crawled aboard both. But some buyers are
interested in flash, and others are not.
It would be interesting to see an honest, head to head evaluation by a
knowledgeable reviewer.
What stood out to me was the Parker's 16 degree versus 21 degree
deadrise on the Steiger.

It would be interesting to see how they each handled the same seas.

Eisboch
Parker offers different boats with different amounts of deadrise, as
does Steiger. They are direct competitors.
I understand. But the two 25 footers in discussion are only 2" different
in LOA and are of the same style.

Or are you saying that both build 25 footers with different deadrise
options? I doubt it.

Eisboch



Well, sure enough. Although, it's not an option on each model. Different
models have a different deadrise ... either 16 degrees or 21 degrees.

It still would be interesting to sea trial the two similar boats that was
the subject of this thread ... the Parker with a 16 degree and the Steigers
with a 21 degree deadrise.

Eisboch




No, it wouldn't. Apples and oranges. IF you want to run a 21 degree
deadrise Steiger, you run it against a 21 degree deadrise Parker.

I have tested both hulls, by the way, in the Parker line in both 21 and
25 feet...16 degrees of deadrise vs. 21 degrees of deadrise.

The 21 degree deadrise boats handles the chop better, as you might
expect, and the 16 degree deadrise boats are a bit more stable at rest.
Just as you might expect. But the differences are minimal.

On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:12:02 -0500, HK wrote:

The 21 degree deadrise boats handles the chop better, as you might
expect, and the 16 degree deadrise boats are a bit more stable at rest.
Just as you might expect. But the differences are minimal.

If so, increase the level of chop and repeat.

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:00:02 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

It still would be interesting to sea trial the two similar boats that was
the subject of this thread ... the Parker with a 16 degree and the Steigers
with a 21 degree deadrise.

I think we know how that would turn out. Bring on another case of
shock absorbers.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:00:02 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

It still would be interesting to sea trial the two similar boats that was
the subject of this thread ... the Parker with a 16 degree and the Steigers
with a 21 degree deadrise.

I think we know how that would turn out. Bring on another case of
shock absorbers.


The 16-degree Parkers do very well in the chop. Very sharp bow entry,
tabs, and you move right along at a decent clip.

It's too bad you don't know dick about small boat boating on places
where the 16-degree deadrise hulls are popular. Very, very popular. The
biggest selling Parkers hereabouts are the 16-degree deadrise 21 and 23
footers.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me -
in
particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like
somebody
put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then
painted
it one solid color of dull beige.
I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes
on the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would
have yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :}
Here's a Parker.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17

Here's a similar Steiger.

http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45

Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it.

Even in monochrome.

And much, much less quality where it counts. I've seen Steigers and
Parkers side by side and have crawled aboard both. But some buyers
are interested in flash, and others are not.

It would be interesting to see an honest, head to head evaluation by a
knowledgeable reviewer.
What stood out to me was the Parker's 16 degree versus 21 degree
deadrise on the Steiger.

It would be interesting to see how they each handled the same seas.

Eisboch

Parker offers different boats with different amounts of deadrise, as
does Steiger. They are direct competitors.

I understand. But the two 25 footers in discussion are only 2"
different in LOA and are of the same style.

Or are you saying that both build 25 footers with different deadrise
options? I doubt it.

Eisboch




Well, sure enough. Although, it's not an option on each model.
Different models have a different deadrise ... either 16 degrees or 21
degrees.

It still would be interesting to sea trial the two similar boats that was
the subject of this thread ... the Parker with a 16 degree and the
Steigers with a 21 degree deadrise.

Eisboch

Why are we discussing 25 footers. Harry has a 21 foot slab sided Parker.
Remember when he tried to poke fun of skippers boat with the slab sides.
Here's a stylish little number that might compare favorably with a 21
Parker. http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/boa/511299363.html