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[email protected] January 3rd 08 08:17 PM

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I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html


[email protected] January 3rd 08 08:52 PM

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On Jan 3, 3:17*pm, wrote:
I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html


Looks like a girls boat...

Short Wave Sportfishing January 3rd 08 08:53 PM

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On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:17:46 -0800 (PST), wrote:

I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html

Woodstock, GA. I have a QSL card from Woodstock, GA.

Well, the engine may be problematic - the VRO pumps on those weren't
known for outstanding reliability. On the other hand, if the owner
went with external tanks and mixed the gas/oil, it's probably fine. It
he didn't, but did it from the internal tank, that's also problematic.
Then again, it may be fine - no way to tell. You know the engine look
over drill as well as anyone else here - hour of shop time and have it
looked at to be sure.

Also be aware that Evinrude does not support VRO engines anymore, but
parts are available, but don't take my word for that - they may not be
anymore.

As to the boat, it is what it is. Entry level bass boat with nothing
in particular to recommend it, but nothing in particular to not
recommend it. This one looks to be in ok shape for it's age -
certainly it's been used hard, but not abused if you get my drift -
that's from just looking at the pictures.

Do the usual things - check the live well pumps, the forward deck for
soft spots (I don't believe that model encased the wood - just plain
marine grade plywood - could be wrong), the bolt through holes in the
transom for sinking bolts, grab the engine skeg and bounce it up and
down to see if the transom is solid - the usual stuff - you know what
to do.

The one thing I would do it look at the corners of the rear deck -
that seems to be where the rear deck problems being on these boats -
even the same vintage Stratos had those problems - couldn't tell you
why.

The electronics aren't anything to brag about - that paper chart
recorder is a riot!! I had the same one on an '89 Ranger when I was
on the NE amateur bass trail.

Frankly, and I'm not trying to be a jerk here, unless you can get it
for $3K max, I'd keep looking around.

However, it's up to you.

[email protected] January 3rd 08 09:20 PM

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On Jan 3, 3:53*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:17:46 -0800 (PST), wrote:
I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!


http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html


Woodstock, GA. *I have a QSL card from Woodstock, GA.

Well, the engine may be problematic - the VRO pumps on those weren't
known for outstanding reliability. *On the other hand, if the owner
went with external tanks and mixed the gas/oil, it's probably fine. It
he didn't, but did it from the internal tank, that's also problematic.
Then again, it may be fine - no way to tell. *You know the engine look
over drill as well as anyone else here - hour of shop time and have it
looked at to be sure.

Also be aware that Evinrude does not support VRO engines anymore, but
parts are available, but don't take my word for that - they may not be
anymore.

As to the boat, it is what it is. *Entry level bass boat with nothing
in particular to recommend it, but nothing in particular to not
recommend it. *This one looks to be in ok shape for it's age -
certainly it's been used hard, but not abused if you get my drift -
that's from just looking at the pictures.

Do the usual things - check the live well pumps, the forward deck for
soft spots (I don't believe that model encased the wood - just plain
marine grade plywood - could be wrong), the bolt through holes in the
transom for sinking bolts, grab the engine skeg and bounce it up and
down to see if the transom is solid - the usual stuff - you know what
to do.

The one thing I would do it look at the corners of the rear deck -
that seems to be where the rear deck problems being on these boats -
even the same vintage Stratos had those problems - couldn't tell you
why.

The electronics aren't anything to brag about - that paper chart
recorder is a riot!! *I had the same one on an '89 Ranger when I was
on the NE amateur bass trail.

Frankly, and I'm not trying to be a jerk here, unless you can get it
for $3K max, I'd keep looking around.

However, it's up to you.


That's exactly the $ range I was thinking, Tom. And I know that the
electronics aren't up to snuff, especially the paper chart! I'll be
using my stuff if I buy it. I'll look at the problem areas you
suggested, like the rear deck, and like you, I'm a little (more than a
little!) leery of the motor, that's the main reason I was asking. I'd
heard of those vintage unEvinrudes blowing up. I like my very old
Evinrude, but in that year range, I'd really rather have a Merc.
Thanks for the input.

Short Wave Sportfishing January 4th 08 12:11 AM

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On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:20:08 -0800 (PST), wrote:

That's exactly the $ range I was thinking, Tom. And I know that the
electronics aren't up to snuff, especially the paper chart! I'll be
using my stuff if I buy it. I'll look at the problem areas you
suggested, like the rear deck, and like you, I'm a little (more than a
little!) leery of the motor, that's the main reason I was asking. I'd
heard of those vintage unEvinrudes blowing up. I like my very old
Evinrude, but in that year range, I'd really rather have a Merc.
Thanks for the input.


The base engine is fine - it's the VRO that is flaky. I replaced one
of mine on the 393V I owned, but never had another problem. Other guys
who ran them went through two or three of them. It just depended.

Oh, with respect to the hot foot - give it a chance - you can always
remove it if you decide you don't like it. Personally, I'm ambivilent
about them. I had one once and it didn't really annoy me as much as I
thought it would.

Good luck with it.

Chuck Gould January 4th 08 12:15 AM

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On Jan 3, 12:17�pm, wrote:
I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html


Be careful with this one.
Based upon the way the current owner put this up for sale, I'd say
there is close to zero pride of ownership. Lot's of dirt in the bilge,
trash under the helm, etc. Anybody who cared about the boat would have
spent 10-15 mintues cleaning it up before taking the photos for the
ad. Anybody who *doesn't* care about the boat probably has been less
than attentive to maintenance and repair.

JoeSpareBedroom January 4th 08 01:03 AM

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wrote in message
...
I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html



Gay. Extremely gay.



[email protected] January 4th 08 01:15 AM

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On Jan 3, 8:03*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...

I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!


http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html


Gay. Extremely gay.


Gay? No way, too dirty... just a chicks boat... a dirty chick...;)

JoeSpareBedroom January 4th 08 01:18 AM

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wrote in message
...
On Jan 3, 8:03 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...

I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!


http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html


Gay. Extremely gay.


Gay? No way, too dirty... just a chicks boat... a dirty chick...;)


+++++++++++=


It could also be extremely Guido. Cheap Guido. We get a lot of that on the
lakes around here.



Dan January 4th 08 01:19 AM

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wrote:
I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html


VRO? It's 2008. Break out the wallet and buy a new boat - not
someone's POS.

HK January 4th 08 01:20 AM

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wrote:
On Jan 3, 8:03 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...

I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html
Gay. Extremely gay.


Gay? No way, too dirty... just a chicks boat... a dirty chick...;)



Metalflake on the boat and bird flake on the motor...sounds like a
Sal****er Tom wet dream.


--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

[email protected] January 4th 08 02:00 AM

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On Jan 3, 8:20*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 3, 8:03 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message


....


I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html
Gay. Extremely gay.


Gay? No way, too dirty... just a chicks boat... a dirty chick...;)


Metalflake on the boat and bird flake on the motor...sounds like a
Sal****er Tom wet dream.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!


Pfffftttt... from a man with a boat with no lines... zero character,
and no transom...

HK January 4th 08 02:02 AM

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wrote:
On Jan 3, 8:20 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 3, 8:03 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message
...
I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html
Gay. Extremely gay.
Gay? No way, too dirty... just a chicks boat... a dirty chick...;)

Metalflake on the boat and bird flake on the motor...sounds like a
Sal****er Tom wet dream.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!


Pfffftttt... from a man with a boat with no lines... zero character,
and no transom...



Uh-huh. What's the transom height on those dinghies you build? 12"? Any
adult male could put one foot on their gunnels and flip one right over.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Tim January 4th 08 02:31 AM

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On Jan 3, 6:15Â*pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On Jan 3, 12:17�pm, wrote:

I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!


http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html


Be careful with this one.
Based upon the way the current owner put this up for sale, I'd say
there is close to zero pride of ownership. Lot's of dirt in the bilge,
trash under the helm, etc. Anybody who cared about the boat would have
spent 10-15 mintues cleaning it up before taking the photos for the
ad. Anybody who *doesn't* care about the boat probably has been less
than attentive to maintenance and repair.


Well, not to be contradictory, but some people feel that if it's
comfortable to them it ought to be comfortable to you too.

Both of my boats, I purchased cheap, almost dirt cheap. the apholstry
wasn't the greatest on either, but they were both mechanically well
taken care of with sound hulls.

But sure, I'd say that $3-3300.00 should be about right, that is, if
the engine checks out ok. Of course, I know you'll want to at least
run it on the muffs first.

[email protected] January 4th 08 02:37 AM

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On Jan 3, 9:02*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 3, 8:20 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 3, 8:03 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message
....
I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html
Gay. Extremely gay.
Gay? No way, too dirty... just a chicks boat... a dirty chick...;)
Metalflake on the boat and bird flake on the motor...sounds like a
Sal****er Tom wet dream.


--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!


Pfffftttt... from a man with a boat with no lines... zero character,
and no transom...


Uh-huh. What's the transom height on those dinghies you build? 12"? Any
adult male could put one foot on their gunnels and flip one right over.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What's the point. they are 10 foot boats? I would not sell a small LT
boat to someone who was going to take it into unprotected water,
unlike your last salesman...

Ernest Scribbler January 4th 08 02:39 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote
Oh, with respect to the hot foot - give it a chance


What's a hot foot?



HK January 4th 08 02:43 AM

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wrote:
On Jan 3, 9:02 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 3, 8:20 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 3, 8:03 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message
...
I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html
Gay. Extremely gay.
Gay? No way, too dirty... just a chicks boat... a dirty chick...;)
Metalflake on the boat and bird flake on the motor...sounds like a
Sal****er Tom wet dream.
--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!
Pfffftttt... from a man with a boat with no lines... zero character,
and no transom...

Uh-huh. What's the transom height on those dinghies you build? 12"? Any
adult male could put one foot on their gunnels and flip one right over.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What's the point. they are 10 foot boats? I would not sell a small LT
boat to someone who was going to take it into unprotected water,
unlike your last salesman...



What "unprotected" water is that for you? Lake Candlewood?


--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Ernest Scribbler January 4th 08 02:54 AM

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"Ernest Scribbler" wrote
What's a hot foot?


Never mind, I googled it. Gas pedal. Hmm.



[email protected] January 4th 08 02:58 AM

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On Jan 3, 9:43*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 3, 9:02 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 3, 8:20 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 3, 8:03 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message
...
I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html
Gay. Extremely gay.
Gay? No way, too dirty... just a chicks boat... a dirty chick...;)
Metalflake on the boat and bird flake on the motor...sounds like a
Sal****er Tom wet dream.
--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!
Pfffftttt... from a man with a boat with no lines... zero character,
and no transom...
Uh-huh. What's the transom height on those dinghies you build? 12"? Any
adult male could put one foot on their gunnels and flip one right over.


--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


What's the point. they are 10 foot boats? I would not sell a small LT
boat to someone who was going to take it into unprotected water,
unlike your last salesman...


What "unprotected" water is that for you? Lake Candlewood?

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well Harry, depends on the weather really. If you were really a
boater, with a real boat, you would know that. But we will settle for
your stories of conquests, Zimmermans, and pictures of your neighbors
LTP.

JoeSpareBedroom January 4th 08 02:58 AM

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"Ernest Scribbler" wrote in message
. ..
"Ernest Scribbler" wrote
What's a hot foot?


Never mind, I googled it. Gas pedal. Hmm.



It's a macho term, like the way some rifle owners called their guns a "bang
stick". Nobody knows why, although rumor has it these terms give some people
a real tingle in the panties.



Tim January 4th 08 03:02 AM

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On Jan 3, 8:58*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Ernest Scribbler" wrote in message

. ..

"Ernest Scribbler" wrote
What's a hot foot?


Never mind, I googled it. Gas pedal. Hmm.


It's a macho term, like the way some rifle owners called their guns a "bang
stick". Nobody knows why, although rumor has it these terms give some people
a real tingle in the panties.




LOL! Well, I DO have a 52 cal. flintlock and the black powder crowd
call those things a "smoke pole".

But no, I never got a "tingle" anywhere with it. But you never
know.....

HK January 4th 08 03:08 AM

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wrote:
On Jan 3, 9:43 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 3, 9:02 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 3, 8:20 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 3, 8:03 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message
...
I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html
Gay. Extremely gay.
Gay? No way, too dirty... just a chicks boat... a dirty chick...;)
Metalflake on the boat and bird flake on the motor...sounds like a
Sal****er Tom wet dream.
--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!
Pfffftttt... from a man with a boat with no lines... zero character,
and no transom...
Uh-huh. What's the transom height on those dinghies you build? 12"? Any
adult male could put one foot on their gunnels and flip one right over.
--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
What's the point. they are 10 foot boats? I would not sell a small LT
boat to someone who was going to take it into unprotected water,
unlike your last salesman...

What "unprotected" water is that for you? Lake Candlewood?

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well Harry, depends on the weather really. If you were really a
boater, with a real boat, you would know that. But we will settle for
your stories of conquests, Zimmermans, and pictures of your neighbors
LTP.



Actually, Candlewood would be dangerous waters for your dinghies, right?

Calif Bill January 4th 08 03:51 AM

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Ernest Scribbler" wrote in message
. ..
"Ernest Scribbler" wrote
What's a hot foot?


Never mind, I googled it. Gas pedal. Hmm.



It's a macho term, like the way some rifle owners called their guns a
"bang stick". Nobody knows why, although rumor has it these terms give
some people a real tingle in the panties.


What tingles your panties? Hotfoot is a boat floor gas pedal. Trademarked
term. They have been around for at least 45 years. Was originally for drag
boats.



Mike[_6_] January 4th 08 04:54 AM

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pictures of your neighbors LTP.

C'mon... we all know it's Harry's. His neighbor isn't stupid enough to buy a
LTP. LOL

--Mike

wrote in message
...
On Jan 3, 9:43 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 3, 9:02 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 3, 8:20 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 3, 8:03 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message
...
I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like
he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever
owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat
itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the
empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html
Gay. Extremely gay.
Gay? No way, too dirty... just a chicks boat... a dirty chick...;)
Metalflake on the boat and bird flake on the motor...sounds like a
Sal****er Tom wet dream.
--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!
Pfffftttt... from a man with a boat with no lines... zero character,
and no transom...
Uh-huh. What's the transom height on those dinghies you build? 12"? Any
adult male could put one foot on their gunnels and flip one right over.


--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


What's the point. they are 10 foot boats? I would not sell a small LT
boat to someone who was going to take it into unprotected water,
unlike your last salesman...


What "unprotected" water is that for you? Lake Candlewood?

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well Harry, depends on the weather really. If you were really a
boater, with a real boat, you would know that. But we will settle for
your stories of conquests, Zimmermans, and pictures of your neighbors
LTP.



[email protected] January 4th 08 01:28 PM

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On Jan 3, 5:55*pm, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 3, 3:17 pm, wrote:

I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!


http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html


Looks like a girls boat...
========================

Black with pretty little white speckles........probably glittery too. * The
engine cover has started to morph to the same.


Damn you're stupid.

[email protected] January 4th 08 01:30 PM

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On Jan 4, 8:28*am, wrote:
On Jan 3, 5:55*pm, "JimH" wrote:





wrote in message


...
On Jan 3, 3:17 pm, wrote:


I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!


http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html


Looks like a girls boat...
========================


Black with pretty little white speckles........probably glittery too. * The
engine cover has started to morph to the same.


Damn you're stupid.- Hide quoted text -

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And yet, your the one looking at the Viagra sled....

[email protected] January 4th 08 01:31 PM

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On Jan 3, 7:11*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:20:08 -0800 (PST), wrote:
That's exactly the $ range I was thinking, Tom. And I know that the
electronics aren't up to snuff, especially the paper chart! I'll be
using my stuff if I buy it. I'll look at the problem areas you
suggested, like the rear deck, and like you, I'm a little (more than a
little!) leery of the motor, that's the main reason I was asking. I'd
heard of those vintage unEvinrudes blowing up. I like my very old
Evinrude, but in that year range, I'd really rather have a Merc.
Thanks for the input.


The base engine is fine - it's the VRO that is flaky. I replaced one
of mine on the 393V I owned, but never had another problem. Other guys
who ran them went through two or three of them. *It just depended.

Oh, with respect to the hot foot - give it a chance - you can always
remove it if you decide you don't like it. *Personally, I'm ambivilent
about them. I had one once and it didn't really annoy me as much as I
thought it would.

Good luck with it.


Went up and looked at it last night. Besides the hotfoot, the
hillbilly did quite a lot of..... let's say.... customizing that I
didn't care for. Then he told me that he had replaced the VRO system,
but when it failed it didn't do any harm "as far as he could tell".
The battery/electrical wiring looked like my 8 year old did it. Now
all of this wouldn't have been bad, I love having a project, but he
wouldn't come down to anywhere near 3 grand so I passed!

HK January 4th 08 01:32 PM

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wrote:
On Jan 4, 8:28 am, wrote:
On Jan 3, 5:55 pm, "JimH" wrote:





wrote in message
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On Jan 3, 3:17 pm, wrote:
I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html
Looks like a girls boat...
========================
Black with pretty little white speckles........probably glittery too. The
engine cover has started to morph to the same.

Damn you're stupid.- Hide quoted text -

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And yet, your the one looking at the Viagra sled....



Have you actually ever built a boat large enough to take a couple of big
guys out fishing on a body of water on which there might be waves?




--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

[email protected] January 4th 08 01:34 PM

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On Jan 3, 9:31Â*pm, Tim wrote:
On Jan 3, 6:15Â*pm, Chuck Gould wrote:





On Jan 3, 12:17�pm, wrote:


I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!


http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html


Be careful with this one.
Based upon the way the current owner put this up for sale, I'd say
there is close to zero pride of ownership. Lot's of dirt in the bilge,
trash under the helm, etc. Anybody who cared about the boat would have
spent 10-15 mintues cleaning it up before taking the photos for the
ad. Anybody who *doesn't* care about the boat probably has been less
than attentive to maintenance and repair.


Well, not to be contradictory, but some people feel that if it's
comfortable to them it ought to be comfortable to you too.

Both of my boats, I purchased cheap, almost dirt cheap. the apholstry
wasn't the greatest on either, but they were both mechanically well
taken care of with sound hulls.

But sure, I'd say that $3-3300.00 should be about right, that is, if
the engine checks out ok. Of course, I know you'll want to at least
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I'm the same way, I like having projects, and don't mind working on
something when I get a good deal. This wasn't it, see my reply to Tom.
It was a good looking boat, but goober did some "customizing" ie:
instead of fixing it correctly, go out back and find a piece off of
some junk car of something!

[email protected] January 4th 08 01:35 PM

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On Jan 3, 9:39*pm, "Ernest Scribbler"
wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote

Oh, with respect to the hot foot - give it a chance


What's a hot foot?


Instead of the throttle handle, they install a *gas pedal* type deal.
I can't get used to them!

[email protected] January 4th 08 01:37 PM

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On Jan 4, 8:32*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 4, 8:28 am, wrote:
On Jan 3, 5:55 pm, "JimH" wrote:


wrote in message
....
On Jan 3, 3:17 pm, wrote:
I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html
Looks like a girls boat...
========================
Black with pretty little white speckles........probably glittery too. * The
engine cover has started to morph to the same.
Damn you're stupid.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


And yet, your the one looking at the Viagra sled....


Have you actually ever built a boat large enough to take a couple of big
guys out fishing on a body of water on which there might be waves?

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

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Yaimkool.com

Have you ever wet a hull of your own hand.. Of did daddy just give it
to you along with whatever else he gave you to make you so mad and
insecure.??

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] January 4th 08 01:41 PM

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wrote:
On Jan 4, 8:32 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 4, 8:28 am, wrote:
On Jan 3, 5:55 pm, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Jan 3, 3:17 pm, wrote:
I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html
Looks like a girls boat...
========================
Black with pretty little white speckles........probably glittery too. The
engine cover has started to morph to the same.
Damn you're stupid.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
And yet, your the one looking at the Viagra sled....

Have you actually ever built a boat large enough to take a couple of big
guys out fishing on a body of water on which there might be waves?

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yaimkool.com

Have you ever wet a hull of your own hand.. Of did daddy just give it
to you along with whatever else he gave you to make you so mad and
insecure.??


Something happened to Harry to make him the way his is, my guess is his
father never provided emotional support and encouragement. He is always
seeking support in here, by making up stories that always fall apart.
Harry just can't keep with all of his lies.




John H.[_3_] January 4th 08 01:58 PM

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On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 08:32:31 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Jan 4, 8:28 am, wrote:
On Jan 3, 5:55 pm, "JimH" wrote:





wrote in message
...
On Jan 3, 3:17 pm, wrote:
I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html
Looks like a girls boat...
========================
Black with pretty little white speckles........probably glittery too. The
engine cover has started to morph to the same.
Damn you're stupid.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


And yet, your the one looking at the Viagra sled....



Have you actually ever built a boat large enough to take a couple of big
guys out fishing on a body of water on which there might be waves?


Harry, why don't you build a boat, any boat, and then come and criticize
another's work. Here, I'll help you get started with something worthy of
your vast expertise:

http://tinyurl.com/28qkte

Maybe you can find a nice, dark place to put it when you're finished?

--
John H

HK January 4th 08 02:02 PM

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wrote:
On Jan 4, 8:32 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 4, 8:28 am, wrote:
On Jan 3, 5:55 pm, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Jan 3, 3:17 pm, wrote:
I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html
Looks like a girls boat...
========================
Black with pretty little white speckles........probably glittery too. The
engine cover has started to morph to the same.
Damn you're stupid.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
And yet, your the one looking at the Viagra sled....

Have you actually ever built a boat large enough to take a couple of big
guys out fishing on a body of water on which there might be waves?

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yaimkool.com

Have you ever wet a hull of your own hand.. Of did daddy just give it
to you along with whatever else he gave you to make you so mad and
insecure.??




My father was in the boat business. I had boats. If he were a shoemaker,
I would have had lots of shoes. Just think...if your daddy was a brain
surgeon, you would have had...a brain.

Yeah, I built dinghies that looked like some of yours. I worked at the
boat store, boatyard and marina many Saturdays and Sundays from age nine
on, and many summers, too. I was the "designated detailer" for a few
years, and then I moved on up to simple carpentry repairs on wood boats,
and refinishing of mahogany decks, seats and gunnels. During the winter,
I also helped out in the boatshop, building dinghies and skiffs.

I've seen boats like the ones on your web page being built as part of
classes at the two local marine museums here, over the course of a
weekend, by father-son/father-daughter teams.

If you are really a beginner with hand tools, you can take one of these
classes. Makes a good day date:

Build a Boat in a Day

Class fee: $300.00 ($275.00 FOM) per team.

Each adult and child team uses the stitch-and-glue technique to assemble
a prepared kit for a small flat-bottomed plywood boat suitable for
rowing or paddling. The boat is 7’ 10” long, 32” wide, and weighs about
40 pounds. By the end of the class each boat will be completed to a
watertight condition and clear-coated with epoxy. Detail finishing and
painting is the responsibility of team members and may not be undertaken
in the Watercraft Center. Teams are limited to a maximum of 4 persons,
at least one of whom must be an adult. The minimum age limit for this
class only is 8 years. (6 hours).


Or for those who can tell a saw from a pliers:


One-Week Boatbuilding Class

Class fee: $1,400.00 ($1,350.00 FOM)

Each student builds a traditional flat-bottomed skiff or a small
round-bottomed boat over a one-week period. Class participants will
build their own flat-bottomed skiff or small round-bottomed boat, either
carvel or lapstrake planked, up to 15 feet in length, with an expert’s
guidance. Students must discuss the boat they wish to build with the
instructor before the class begins and receive his approval. They take
home their boats, which will be ready for primer, at the end of the
class. The class price includes the cost of all materials. Tools are
supplied, but participants are encouraged to bring their own
battery-operated drills (including charger) and palm or orbital sanders.
(64 hours)



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Republicans: Vote for Huck, Paul or Fred & Guarantee a Democratic
Victory in 2008

JoeSpareBedroom January 4th 08 02:02 PM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Ernest Scribbler" wrote in message
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"Ernest Scribbler" wrote
What's a hot foot?

Never mind, I googled it. Gas pedal. Hmm.



It's a macho term, like the way some rifle owners called their guns a
"bang stick". Nobody knows why, although rumor has it these terms give
some people a real tingle in the panties.


What tingles your panties? Hotfoot is a boat floor gas pedal.
Trademarked term. They have been around for at least 45 years. Was
originally for drag boats.


Like I said....



[email protected] January 4th 08 02:13 PM

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On Jan 4, 8:47*am, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message

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On Jan 4, 8:28 am, wrote:





On Jan 3, 5:55 pm, "JimH" wrote:


wrote in message


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On Jan 3, 3:17 pm, wrote:


I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!


http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html


Looks like a girls boat...
========================


Black with pretty little white speckles........probably glittery too.
The
engine cover has started to morph to the same.


Damn you're stupid.- Hide quoted text -


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And yet, your the one looking at the Viagra sled....

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Hey, at least Booger spelled *you're* correctly this time. * ;-)- Hide quoted text -

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I like to pull loogies leg, but I think he knows I am at least as
redneck as he is... I could fish with Loogie..;)

[email protected] January 4th 08 02:24 PM

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On Jan 4, 9:02*am, HK wrote:
Yaimkool.com


Have you ever wet a hull of your own hand.. Of did daddy just give it
to you along with whatever else he gave you to make you so mad and
insecure.??


My father was in the boat business. I had boats. If he were a shoemaker,
I would have had lots of shoes.


Snip all the excuses, suffice to say, Harry has never built a boat.
And never will... Like everything else he talks about, it is only what
he has read of stolen...


Billary, the most sold out Whitehouse in history...


[email protected] January 4th 08 02:27 PM

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On Jan 4, 8:30*am, wrote:
On Jan 4, 8:28*am, wrote:





On Jan 3, 5:55*pm, "JimH" wrote:


wrote in message


....
On Jan 3, 3:17 pm, wrote:


I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!


http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html


Looks like a girls boat...
========================


Black with pretty little white speckles........probably glittery too. * The
engine cover has started to morph to the same.


Damn you're stupid.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


And yet, your the one looking at the Viagra sled....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Why is it a Viagra sled? Because you don't like to go fast and have
fun no one else should? I fish local tournaments, and getting to the
fish in a hurry is key, that's why you see pros with huge 300hp
motors. The lake I fish on has 900 miles of shoreline. Besides, I've
always liked speed. I've raced snowmobiles, motocross, dirt sprint
cars, etc. all of my life.

[email protected] January 4th 08 02:30 PM

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On Jan 4, 8:37*am, wrote:
On Jan 4, 8:32*am, HK wrote:





wrote:
On Jan 4, 8:28 am, wrote:
On Jan 3, 5:55 pm, "JimH" wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Jan 3, 3:17 pm, wrote:
I'm going to ride up and take a look at this, the guy seemed like he'd
deal, and it's been on the list for quite awhile. Anybody ever owned
one of these motors, or know about them? How about the boat itself?
I'd take that hot foot off, I don't like them, and I think the empty
cigarette packs are throw in for free!
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/526435056.html
Looks like a girls boat...
========================
Black with pretty little white speckles........probably glittery too.. * The
engine cover has started to morph to the same.
Damn you're stupid.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


And yet, your the one looking at the Viagra sled....


Have you actually ever built a boat large enough to take a couple of big
guys out fishing on a body of water on which there might be waves?


--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Yaimkool.com

Have you ever wet a hull of your own hand.. Of did daddy just give it
to you along with whatever else he gave you to make you so mad and
insecure.??- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Can you imagine that whiny, sniveling little twit JimH? Too much of a
****ing pussy to say anything directly so he does it through you. Next
he'll give us another mundane drone about what he did today, then
he'll boost his sad deflated ego using his children. He has the gall
to say something about someone elses boat when he rides in that gay
bright red thing that damned near blew up on him last year?

Short Wave Sportfishing January 4th 08 02:39 PM

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On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 05:31:36 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Went up and looked at it last night. Besides the hotfoot, the
hillbilly did quite a lot of..... let's say.... customizing that I
didn't care for. Then he told me that he had replaced the VRO system,
but when it failed it didn't do any harm "as far as he could tell".
The battery/electrical wiring looked like my 8 year old did it. Now
all of this wouldn't have been bad, I love having a project, but he
wouldn't come down to anywhere near 3 grand so I passed!


Those are the things you can't tell from pictures.

Look at it this way - there are others around. I saw a '89 RAnger 318
the other day in good shape that was in that price range.

I'll see if I can find it again.


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