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Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here
Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. |
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On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 00:01:23 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. Yes, Moore must love it. Those folks up there just need to pay more taxes. My friend in Holland told me the latest change to the 'free' health care over there. There has been such an influx of Moroccans and Turks, that money had to be found somewhere. They're already giving a huge percent (65% or so) to the government, so the government didn't want to raise taxes. Now the medical care is 'free' after the first 150 Euros are paid. My friend is expecting this to be raised next year. -- JohnH "Opa of 6" |
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John H. wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 00:01:23 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. Yes, Moore must love it. Those folks up there just need to pay more taxes. My friend in Holland told me the latest change to the 'free' health care over there. There has been such an influx of Moroccans and Turks, that money had to be found somewhere. They're already giving a huge percent (65% or so) to the government, so the government didn't want to raise taxes. Now the medical care is 'free' after the first 150 Euros are paid. My friend is expecting this to be raised next year. -- JohnH "Opa of 6" Did someone introduce them to Champus. |
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On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:49:16 -0500, BAR wrote:
John H. wrote: On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 00:01:23 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. Yes, Moore must love it. Those folks up there just need to pay more taxes. My friend in Holland told me the latest change to the 'free' health care over there. There has been such an influx of Moroccans and Turks, that money had to be found somewhere. They're already giving a huge percent (65% or so) to the government, so the government didn't want to raise taxes. Now the medical care is 'free' after the first 150 Euros are paid. My friend is expecting this to be raised next year. -- JohnH "Opa of 6" Did someone introduce them to Champus. Does kinda sound like Champus, doesn't it? -- JohnH "Opa of 6" |
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On Jan 2, 7:01*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming! |
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On Jan 3, 9:11*am, wrote:
On Jan 2, 7:01*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The problem we have with global warming. We have evidence on our side that it is a phony scheme... Notably, the earth not getting warmer... On your side, all you have is loug rhetoric with no physical facts (except fudged ones) to back up your tax scheme... |
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On Jan 3, 9:41*am, wrote:
On Jan 3, 9:11*am, wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The problem we have with global warming. We have evidence on our side that it is a phony scheme... Notably, the earth not getting warmer... On your side, all you have is loug rhetoric with no physical facts (except fudged ones) to back up your tax scheme...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Show me specific, end all evidence with supporting data that clearly shows global warming to be a "phony scheme". |
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On Jan 3, 10:23*am, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:11:48 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming! The only good thing about the overtaxed, crappy health system is that it's 'free'. So what? -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So are you saying that the Veteran's Administration's health system is crappy? |
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On Jan 3, 10:27*am, BAR wrote:
John H. wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:11:48 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming! The only good thing about the overtaxed, crappy health system is that it's 'free'. So what? There is nothing good about socialized medicine. And, it is not free. It costs you money, that you conveniently don't see, and it costs lives and livelihoods which end up costing the rest of us more. Pay for what you want and need in all things.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Tell all veterans that who use the V.A. system. |
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On Jan 3, 10:40*am, wrote:
On Jan 3, 9:41*am, wrote: On Jan 3, 9:11*am, wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The problem we have with global warming. We have evidence on our side that it is a phony scheme... Notably, the earth not getting warmer... On your side, all you have is loug rhetoric with no physical facts (except fudged ones) to back up your tax scheme...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Show me specific, end all evidence with supporting data that clearly shows global warming to be a "phony scheme".- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's a non sequ... something until you show me some unfudged evidence that it does;) |
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On Jan 3, 10:42*am, wrote:
On Jan 3, 10:27*am, BAR wrote: John H. wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:11:48 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming! The only good thing about the overtaxed, crappy health system is that it's 'free'. So what? There is nothing good about socialized medicine. And, it is not free. It costs you money, that you conveniently don't see, and it costs lives and livelihoods which end up costing the rest of us more. Pay for what you want and need in all things.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Tell all veterans that who use the V.A. system.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - They already paid with their service.... |
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On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:27:20 -0500, BAR wrote:
John H. wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:11:48 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming! The only good thing about the overtaxed, crappy health system is that it's 'free'. So what? There is nothing good about socialized medicine. And, it is not free. It costs you money, that you conveniently don't see, and it costs lives and livelihoods which end up costing the rest of us more. Pay for what you want and need in all things. "Free" was meant with a little sarcasm. I guess I wasn't as subtle as I thought. -- John H |
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On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 07:40:32 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Jan 3, 9:41*am, wrote: On Jan 3, 9:11*am, wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The problem we have with global warming. We have evidence on our side that it is a phony scheme... Notably, the earth not getting warmer... On your side, all you have is loug rhetoric with no physical facts (except fudged ones) to back up your tax scheme...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Show me specific, end all evidence with supporting data that clearly shows global warming to be a "phony scheme". What more could you want. Remember also, that all but one of the Democrats left the Senate Global Warming hearings for the second half of the hearings. Even *they* must think it's a fake. http://www.climatecrisis.net/ -- John H |
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On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:06:52 -0500, HK wrote:
wrote: On Jan 3, 10:42 am, wrote: On Jan 3, 10:27 am, BAR wrote: John H. wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:11:48 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming! The only good thing about the overtaxed, crappy health system is that it's 'free'. So what? There is nothing good about socialized medicine. And, it is not free. It costs you money, that you conveniently don't see, and it costs lives and livelihoods which end up costing the rest of us more. Pay for what you want and need in all things.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Tell all veterans that who use the V.A. system.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - They already paid with their service.... D.F. Luddite. Said by one who says he's been there and done that. -- John H |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: wrote: On Jan 3, 10:23 am, John H. wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:11:48 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming! The only good thing about the overtaxed, crappy health system is that it's 'free'. So what? -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So are you saying that the Veteran's Administration's health system is crappy? In many areas and aspects the VA health care does suck. I am for universal health care, because the system we have today is Universal health care, but you just have to get very sick and go to the ER before it is available. We all are already paying for universal healthcare, at substantially higher prices than we need to. It is cheaper to take care of a minor problem with a RN or in a clinic, than wait till it is a major problem. Plus, if we had Universal Health Care, most of the people who are uninsured today, who we are already paying for their care, would pay some or all of their healthcare insurance. You are a "progressive" in disguise and I say that with all due negative connotation. |
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On Jan 3, 11:48*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 07:40:32 -0800 (PST), wrote: Show me specific, end all evidence with supporting data that clearly shows global warming to be a "phony scheme". http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20080103/94768732.html Hate to burst your always right bubble, but that's nothing more than an opinion. There is not one iota of empirical data there that in any way suggests that there is no man made global warming, that global warming isn't happening, and that it's a "phony scheme". |
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On Jan 3, 11:32*am, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 07:42:15 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 3, 10:27*am, BAR wrote: John H. wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:11:48 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming! The only good thing about the overtaxed, crappy health system is that it's 'free'. So what? There is nothing good about socialized medicine. And, it is not free. It costs you money, that you conveniently don't see, and it costs lives and livelihoods which end up costing the rest of us more. Pay for what you want and need in all things.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Tell all veterans that who use the V.A. system. They all paid, Loogy. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Don't go giving that bull about because you served, blah blah...... It's as "socialized" and "socialized medicine" can get. |
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BAR wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: wrote: On Jan 3, 10:23 am, John H. wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:11:48 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming! The only good thing about the overtaxed, crappy health system is that it's 'free'. So what? -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So are you saying that the Veteran's Administration's health system is crappy? In many areas and aspects the VA health care does suck. I am for universal health care, because the system we have today is Universal health care, but you just have to get very sick and go to the ER before it is available. We all are already paying for universal healthcare, at substantially higher prices than we need to. It is cheaper to take care of a minor problem with a RN or in a clinic, than wait till it is a major problem. Plus, if we had Universal Health Care, most of the people who are uninsured today, who we are already paying for their care, would pay some or all of their healthcare insurance. You are a "progressive" in disguise and I say that with all due negative connotation. LOL, I am really only interested in what will cost me less. What we are doing today is costing all of us more. Why should our insurance cost us more, because a large percent of the population either can't or won't buy insurance? The uninsured will always get free healthcare, but only when it is the most expensive. I pay for health insurance for my wife and 3 kids, why should I have to pay it for those who can afford it, but prefer not to because they don't think they need it. If you don't think you are already paying for it today, you are incorrect. |
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On Jan 3, 11:30*am, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 07:40:32 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 3, 9:41*am, wrote: On Jan 3, 9:11*am, wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The problem we have with global warming. We have evidence on our side that it is a phony scheme... Notably, the earth not getting warmer... On your side, all you have is loug rhetoric with no physical facts (except fudged ones) to back up your tax scheme...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Show me specific, end all evidence with supporting data that clearly shows global warming to be a "phony scheme". What more could you want. Remember also, that all but one of the Democrats left the Senate Global Warming hearings for the second half of the hearings. Even *they* must think it's a fake. http://www.climatecrisis.net/ -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Because someone leaves a venue that automatically means they think whatever's going on in there is fake? |
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On Jan 3, 10:50*am, wrote:
On Jan 3, 10:42*am, wrote: On Jan 3, 10:27*am, BAR wrote: John H. wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:11:48 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th.. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming! The only good thing about the overtaxed, crappy health system is that it's 'free'. So what? There is nothing good about socialized medicine. And, it is not free. It costs you money, that you conveniently don't see, and it costs lives and livelihoods which end up costing the rest of us more. Pay for what you want and need in all things.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Tell all veterans that who use the V.A. system.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - They already paid with their service....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Bull****. I wholeheartedly agree that they deserve good care. But there is no tangible amount they "paid". |
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On Jan 3, 9:35�am, BAR wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: wrote: On Jan 3, 10:23 am, John H. wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:11:48 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming! The only good thing about the overtaxed, crappy health system is that it's 'free'. So what? -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So are you saying that the Veteran's Administration's health system is crappy? In many areas and aspects the VA health care does suck. �I am for universal health care, because the system we have today is Universal health care, but you just have to get very sick and go to the ER before it is available. �We all are already paying for universal healthcare, at substantially higher prices than we need to. �It is cheaper to take care of a minor problem with a RN or in a clinic, than wait till it is a major problem. Plus, if we had Universal Health Care, most of the people who are uninsured today, who we are already paying for their care, would pay some or all of their healthcare insurance. You are a "progressive" in disguise and I say that with all due negative connotation.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You're a Progressive as well, unless you're willing to sit outside the door to the Emergency Room door and stop every gurney wheeling somebody inside. "Hey, wait! That guy bleeding from his artery goes nowhere until we can be sure he has either the insurance or the money to pay for his care! How do we know he isn't some illegal alien? Good lord, worse yet, he might even be a liberal! Stop! Stop I say, until we can determine whether this victim is financially and politically qualified to be saved!" :-) (not that you seriously would ever do that, of course) In the end, the ER at the local hospital becomes the de-facto public health clinic. Nobody is turned away, and those of us who can afford insurance and buy it absorb, (through our premiums) the costs of caring for people who cannot afford insurance. Like Reggie observed, we are *already* providing at least emergency level health care to everybody in this country- but in a very inefficient and ridiculously expensive manner. It's like feeding the homeless by renting a banquet room at the most expensive hotel or restaurant in town. (I'm sure the owners of the 5-star restaurants and premium hotels would appreciate the extra business). Money spent to treat disease in the early stages is miuch cheaper than waiting until an ER situation arises. |
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On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 09:49:53 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Jan 3, 11:30*am, John H. wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 07:40:32 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 3, 9:41*am, wrote: On Jan 3, 9:11*am, wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The problem we have with global warming. We have evidence on our side that it is a phony scheme... Notably, the earth not getting warmer... On your side, all you have is loug rhetoric with no physical facts (except fudged ones) to back up your tax scheme...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Show me specific, end all evidence with supporting data that clearly shows global warming to be a "phony scheme". What more could you want. Remember also, that all but one of the Democrats left the Senate Global Warming hearings for the second half of the hearings. Even *they* must think it's a fake. http://www.climatecrisis.net/ -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Because someone leaves a venue that automatically means they think whatever's going on in there is fake? OK. -- John H |
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wrote in message ... On Jan 3, 10:50 am, wrote: On Jan 3, 10:42 am, wrote: On Jan 3, 10:27 am, BAR wrote: John H. wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:11:48 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming! The only good thing about the overtaxed, crappy health system is that it's 'free'. So what? There is nothing good about socialized medicine. And, it is not free. It costs you money, that you conveniently don't see, and it costs lives and livelihoods which end up costing the rest of us more. Pay for what you want and need in all things.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Tell all veterans that who use the V.A. system.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - They already paid with their service....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Bull****. I wholeheartedly agree that they deserve good care. But there is no tangible amount they "paid". Why does there have to be a "tangible" amount, as you so adeptly put it? |
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D.Duck wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jan 3, 10:50 am, wrote: On Jan 3, 10:42 am, wrote: On Jan 3, 10:27 am, BAR wrote: John H. wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:11:48 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming! The only good thing about the overtaxed, crappy health system is that it's 'free'. So what? There is nothing good about socialized medicine. And, it is not free. It costs you money, that you conveniently don't see, and it costs lives and livelihoods which end up costing the rest of us more. Pay for what you want and need in all things.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Tell all veterans that who use the V.A. system.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - They already paid with their service....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Bull****. I wholeheartedly agree that they deserve good care. But there is no tangible amount they "paid". Why does there have to be a "tangible" amount, as you so adeptly put it? If I am not mistaken, the VA healthcare plan in some manner, is included in their compensation package. The same way most large companies include a healthcare plan as part of their compensation package. I really don't know the details of the military plan, but if you retired from the military, you really do expect them to honor the compensation package everyone agreed to. The tangible part is the salary you deferred to cover the cost of your healthcare. |
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On Jan 3, 11:33*am, John H. wrote:
They already paid with their service.... D.F. Luddite. Said by one who says he's been there and done that. -- John H I expected that. Secularist with no moral core, does not understand service to other than self... |
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On Jan 3, 2:07*pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jan 3, 10:50 am, wrote: On Jan 3, 10:42 am, wrote: On Jan 3, 10:27 am, BAR wrote: John H. wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:11:48 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming! The only good thing about the overtaxed, crappy health system is that it's 'free'. So what? There is nothing good about socialized medicine. And, it is not free. It costs you money, that you conveniently don't see, and it costs lives and livelihoods which end up costing the rest of us more. Pay for what you want and need in all things.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Tell all veterans that who use the V.A. system.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - They already paid with their service....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Bull****. I wholeheartedly agree that they deserve good care. But there is no tangible amount they "paid". Why does there have to be a "tangible" amount, as you so adeptly put it?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Service to others does not need to be tangible in dollars. Look at the time I spend raising my kids, what dollar value do you put on that? |
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On Jan 3, 10:40*am, wrote:
On Jan 3, 9:41*am, wrote: On Jan 3, 9:11*am, wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The problem we have with global warming. We have evidence on our side that it is a phony scheme... Notably, the earth not getting warmer... On your side, all you have is loug rhetoric with no physical facts (except fudged ones) to back up your tax scheme...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Show me specific, end all evidence with supporting data that clearly shows global warming to be a "phony scheme".- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Go see Al Gore's movie with a neutral fact checker... |
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wrote in message ... On Jan 3, 2:07 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 3, 10:50 am, wrote: On Jan 3, 10:42 am, wrote: On Jan 3, 10:27 am, BAR wrote: John H. wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:11:48 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming! The only good thing about the overtaxed, crappy health system is that it's 'free'. So what? There is nothing good about socialized medicine. And, it is not free. It costs you money, that you conveniently don't see, and it costs lives and livelihoods which end up costing the rest of us more. Pay for what you want and need in all things.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Tell all veterans that who use the V.A. system.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - They already paid with their service....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Bull****. I wholeheartedly agree that they deserve good care. But there is no tangible amount they "paid". Why does there have to be a "tangible" amount, as you so adeptly put it?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Service to others does not need to be tangible in dollars. Look at the time I spend raising my kids, what dollar value do you put on that? I seems like my reply was monged. The only part I added was: "Why does there have to be a "tangible" amount, as you so adeptly put it?" The other part was from Picker. |
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On Jan 3, 4:12*pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jan 3, 2:07 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 3, 10:50 am, wrote: On Jan 3, 10:42 am, wrote: On Jan 3, 10:27 am, BAR wrote: John H. wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:11:48 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 2, 7:01 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Woman waits in California hospital for a bed to open up here Wednesday, January 02 - 11:30:00 AM Lyle Fisher VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds. Arlene Meeks has been in a California hospital since December 17th. Her family has been trying to get her transferred back to the Lower Mainland for 2 weeks now but they haven't had any luck. Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds, which are highly specialized. He says over the holidays, it's not surprising to see those beds filled up. Harris says as soon as a bed becomes available, Meeks will be transferred to a local hospital. Arlene's daughter Kim says her mom is 'frustrated as hell', and she just wants to come home. NDP Health Critic Adrian Dix says the issue is one that's continued to plague the Lower Mainland and he's blaming Liberal government cuts to acute care beds. "The number of acute care beds in British Columbia was reduced by 1,300 in the first mandate of the government, and some of the new facilities being opened won't be adding to that number." Dix says the Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health authorities issued reports last fall indicating they are 650 acute care beds short right now. The trouble is, you right wingers only look for the bad things about any system you don't like. Why don't you find the good things, and post them as well, if you want to come off as balanced. Same with global warming! The only good thing about the overtaxed, crappy health system is that it's 'free'. So what? There is nothing good about socialized medicine. And, it is not free. It costs you money, that you conveniently don't see, and it costs lives and livelihoods which end up costing the rest of us more. Pay for what you want and need in all things.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Tell all veterans that who use the V.A. system.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - They already paid with their service....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Bull****. I wholeheartedly agree that they deserve good care. But there is no tangible amount they "paid". Why does there have to be a "tangible" amount, as you so adeptly put it?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Service to others does not need to be tangible in dollars. Look at the time I spend raising my kids, what dollar value do you put on that? I seems like my reply was monged. *The only part I added was: "Why does there have to be a "tangible" amount, as you so adeptly put it?" The other part was from Picker.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, my reply was to loogie.. |
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