HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Here's what I'm thinking just based on reading things here and
there.

Democrats favor Obama, then Edwards, then Clinton, then everybody
else.

I'm thinking Obama gets out with a lead of three or four points over
Edwards in second and Clinton a very close third to Edwards - say
within a point or two. Everybody else, Dodd, Biden, Krazyinich will
all slide to less than 4% of the vote in total.

Republicans - I'm thnking Romney with an insigificant lead over
Huckabee and Thompson a strong third. Ron Paultard will show a
surprising 13% of the vote from all the Paulbots that show up from
other states.

Now I need to call my bookie. :)


Meanwhile, McCain's the only Republican candidate with a spine.


I agree that McCain is the only GOP candidate with any class, and I
agree he has a spine, but...

I was less than impressed when he caved earlier this year on the
torture issue.

McCain is a twit and always has been a twit. He should have gone to
jail with the rest of the Keating Five. He was crooked then and is
crooked now.

McCain has done more damage to this country then he could ever do good.


Geez...you're such an *angry* little scheisskopf...

Not angry just determined to see McCain go down in flames again.



Who are you hoping to vote for? Mike Huckleberry?



Do you have a problem voting for a guy with ethics and morals?

wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 14:55:51 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


Until the NCAA basketball tournament comes around that is. :)

I'm not much of a basketball fan, but I think the NCAA tournament is the
most exciting sports event around.

It is usually full of accident's in the first couple of rounds. But, by
the time they get to the final four the Cinderella story teams have been
eliminated.

BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Here's what I'm thinking just based on reading things here and
there.

Democrats favor Obama, then Edwards, then Clinton, then everybody
else.

I'm thinking Obama gets out with a lead of three or four points
over
Edwards in second and Clinton a very close third to Edwards - say
within a point or two. Everybody else, Dodd, Biden, Krazyinich
will
all slide to less than 4% of the vote in total.

Republicans - I'm thnking Romney with an insigificant lead over
Huckabee and Thompson a strong third. Ron Paultard will show a
surprising 13% of the vote from all the Paulbots that show up from
other states.

Now I need to call my bookie. :)


Meanwhile, McCain's the only Republican candidate with a spine.


I agree that McCain is the only GOP candidate with any class, and
I agree he has a spine, but...

I was less than impressed when he caved earlier this year on the
torture issue.

McCain is a twit and always has been a twit. He should have gone to
jail with the rest of the Keating Five. He was crooked then and is
crooked now.

McCain has done more damage to this country then he could ever do
good.


Geez...you're such an *angry* little scheisskopf...

Not angry just determined to see McCain go down in flames again.



Who are you hoping to vote for? Mike Huckleberry?



Do you have a problem voting for a guy with ethics and morals?


Are you referring to Mike "Mr. Ethics Investigations" Huckabee? Please.

"According to The Associated Press: “[Huckabee’s] career has also been
colored by 14 ethics complaints and a volley of questions about his
integrity, ranging from his management of campaign cash to his use of a
nonprofit organization to subsidize his income to his destruction of
state computer files on his way out of the governor’s office.” And what
was Governor Huckabee’s response to these ethics allegations? Rather
than cooperating with investigators, Huckabee sued the state ethics
commission twice and attempted to shut the ethics process down."




--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Here's what I'm thinking just based on reading things here and
there.

Democrats favor Obama, then Edwards, then Clinton, then everybody
else.

I'm thinking Obama gets out with a lead of three or four points
over
Edwards in second and Clinton a very close third to Edwards - say
within a point or two. Everybody else, Dodd, Biden, Krazyinich
will
all slide to less than 4% of the vote in total.

Republicans - I'm thnking Romney with an insigificant lead over
Huckabee and Thompson a strong third. Ron Paultard will show a
surprising 13% of the vote from all the Paulbots that show up from
other states.

Now I need to call my bookie. :)


Meanwhile, McCain's the only Republican candidate with a spine.


I agree that McCain is the only GOP candidate with any class, and
I agree he has a spine, but...

I was less than impressed when he caved earlier this year on the
torture issue.

McCain is a twit and always has been a twit. He should have gone
to jail with the rest of the Keating Five. He was crooked then and
is crooked now.

McCain has done more damage to this country then he could ever do
good.


Geez...you're such an *angry* little scheisskopf...

Not angry just determined to see McCain go down in flames again.



Who are you hoping to vote for? Mike Huckleberry?



Do you have a problem voting for a guy with ethics and morals?


Are you referring to Mike "Mr. Ethics Investigations" Huckabee? Please.

"According to The Associated Press: “[Huckabee’s] career has also been
colored by 14 ethics complaints and a volley of questions about his
integrity, ranging from his management of campaign cash to his use of a
nonprofit organization to subsidize his income to his destruction of
state computer files on his way out of the governor’s office.” And what
was Governor Huckabee’s response to these ethics allegations? Rather
than cooperating with investigators, Huckabee sued the state ethics
commission twice and attempted to shut the ethics process down."






And of course Huckabee is a total numnutz on foreign policy issues.
In that, he's certainly following in Bush's footsteps.

wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 14:46:32 +0000, Canuck57 wrote:


Why McCain? I view him as having too many back room allegiances and
special interests to be any good. But then again, I can't vote -- just
curious on US politics. Kind of like Ron Paul myself.

True, McCain was one of the Keating Five. He admits to "poor judgement",
which it was, but it also seemed to be a wake-up call. Since that time,
he has been a lead voice in campaign finance reform, and from my vantage
point, a straight shooter. While I don't agree with many of his stands,
I think he is one of the few honorable men in Washington.

A refresher in McCain's involvement in the Keating scandal:


http://www.slate.com/id/1004633/

Why does slate.com want McCain as a the Republican nominee for
president? There is too much media involvement in rehabilitating
McCain's image.

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..


Who are you hoping to vote for? Mike Huckleberry?



Do you have a problem voting for a guy with ethics and morals?


The same Huckabee who failed to report gifts received while in public
office, as required by the law? That Huckabee?

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 15:54:14 -0000, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 15:40:16 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


As a person, I like McCain - as a President I could find him acceptable
- Keating Five beside the point. I'm not exaclty sure how involved he
was in it other than doing what he was supposed to do with a constituent
who contributed to his political organization.

Considering that he was the only Republican involved, it does leave one
to wonder.
The Senate Ethics Committee Special Counsel recommended McCain and Glenn
be dropped from the investigation, but there is speculation that didn't
happen because he was the lone Republican.

Exactly.

Are you saying that two former Naval aviators, one who circled the earth
and the other who survived years as a POW, and both elected US Senators
were granted special dispensation for being too stupid to stay out of a
criminal enterprise?

HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

I admire John McCain for standing up for fellow veteran and fellow
senator John Kerry when Kerry was being smeared and slandered by the
Swift Boaters in '04. McCain knew that the chrages were a combination
of distortion and unbridled BS, and wasn't afraid to say so. To me,
that indicates a preference for truth above partisan politics. That
stand, and some similar over the years, is probably what will cost
McCain any chance to win the R nomination. A candidate needs to appeal
to the party fanatics during the primaries, and then switch gears and
appeal to the center after the conventions. The R party fanatics don't
like McCain all that much- but he would appeal to most of the folks in
the middle. At least IMO.

I don't believe McCain has what it takes to appeal to the simpie
fundies, and they are the ones that control most of the GOP. But I would
like to see him win because it might help restore a little honor and
integrity to the GOP, a party nearly destroyed by the Bush "divide with
fear and conquer" tactics of the last seven years.

What us "simple fundies" what is the second coming of Ronald Wilson Reagan.

I think the GOP nominee will be Huckabee. If it is, I believe he'll be
drowned in the general election, and that will be good for the
Republican Party, because it will be able to use that loss as an excuse
to distance itself from the screwball "religious" voters.

I guess Huckabee will be better than whatever the Democrat Party foists
off on the US as our next savior.

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Here's what I'm thinking just based on reading things here and
there.

Democrats favor Obama, then Edwards, then Clinton, then everybody
else.

I'm thinking Obama gets out with a lead of three or four points
over
Edwards in second and Clinton a very close third to Edwards - say
within a point or two. Everybody else, Dodd, Biden, Krazyinich
will
all slide to less than 4% of the vote in total.

Republicans - I'm thnking Romney with an insigificant lead over
Huckabee and Thompson a strong third. Ron Paultard will show a
surprising 13% of the vote from all the Paulbots that show up from
other states.

Now I need to call my bookie. :)


Meanwhile, McCain's the only Republican candidate with a spine.


I agree that McCain is the only GOP candidate with any class, and
I agree he has a spine, but...

I was less than impressed when he caved earlier this year on the
torture issue.

McCain is a twit and always has been a twit. He should have gone
to jail with the rest of the Keating Five. He was crooked then and
is crooked now.

McCain has done more damage to this country then he could ever do
good.


Geez...you're such an *angry* little scheisskopf...

Not angry just determined to see McCain go down in flames again.



Who are you hoping to vote for? Mike Huckleberry?



Do you have a problem voting for a guy with ethics and morals?


Are you referring to Mike "Mr. Ethics Investigations" Huckabee? Please.

"According to The Associated Press: “[Huckabee’s] career has also been
colored by 14 ethics complaints and a volley of questions about his
integrity, ranging from his management of campaign cash to his use of a
nonprofit organization to subsidize his income to his destruction of
state computer files on his way out of the governor’s office.” And what
was Governor Huckabee’s response to these ethics allegations? Rather
than cooperating with investigators, Huckabee sued the state ethics
commission twice and attempted to shut the ethics process down."

Aren't you going to bring up Barak's little land deal in Chicago or
Hillary's involvement in Whitewater?

HK wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Here's what I'm thinking just based on reading things here and
there.

Democrats favor Obama, then Edwards, then Clinton, then everybody
else.

I'm thinking Obama gets out with a lead of three or four
points over
Edwards in second and Clinton a very close third to Edwards - say
within a point or two. Everybody else, Dodd, Biden,
Krazyinich will
all slide to less than 4% of the vote in total.

Republicans - I'm thnking Romney with an insigificant lead over
Huckabee and Thompson a strong third. Ron Paultard will show a
surprising 13% of the vote from all the Paulbots that show up
from
other states.

Now I need to call my bookie. :)


Meanwhile, McCain's the only Republican candidate with a spine.


I agree that McCain is the only GOP candidate with any class,
and I agree he has a spine, but...

I was less than impressed when he caved earlier this year on the
torture issue.

McCain is a twit and always has been a twit. He should have gone
to jail with the rest of the Keating Five. He was crooked then
and is crooked now.

McCain has done more damage to this country then he could ever do
good.


Geez...you're such an *angry* little scheisskopf...

Not angry just determined to see McCain go down in flames again.



Who are you hoping to vote for? Mike Huckleberry?



Do you have a problem voting for a guy with ethics and morals?


Are you referring to Mike "Mr. Ethics Investigations" Huckabee? Please.

"According to The Associated Press: “[Huckabee’s] career has also
been colored by 14 ethics complaints and a volley of questions about
his integrity, ranging from his management of campaign cash to his use
of a nonprofit organization to subsidize his income to his destruction
of state computer files on his way out of the governor’s office.” And
what was Governor Huckabee’s response to these ethics allegations?
Rather than cooperating with investigators, Huckabee sued the state
ethics commission twice and attempted to shut the ethics process down."






And of course Huckabee is a total numnutz on foreign policy issues.
In that, he's certainly following in Bush's footsteps.

Hillary and Obama don't have foreign policy bona fides either.