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"HK" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Chuck Gould wrote:
I admire John McCain for standing up for fellow veteran and fellow
senator John Kerry when Kerry was being smeared and slandered by the
Swift Boaters in '04. McCain knew that the chrages were a combination
of distortion and unbridled BS, and wasn't afraid to say so. To me,
that indicates a preference for truth above partisan politics. That
stand, and some similar over the years, is probably what will cost
McCain any chance to win the R nomination. A candidate needs to appeal
to the party fanatics during the primaries, and then switch gears and
appeal to the center after the conventions. The R party fanatics don't
like McCain all that much- but he would appeal to most of the folks in
the middle. At least IMO.
I don't believe McCain has what it takes to appeal to the simpie
fundies, and they are the ones that control most of the GOP. But I would
like to see him win because it might help restore a little honor and
integrity to the GOP, a party nearly destroyed by the Bush "divide with
fear and conquer" tactics of the last seven years.

I think the GOP nominee will be Huckabee. If it is, I believe he'll be
drowned in the general election, and that will be good for the
Republican Party, because it will be able to use that loss as an excuse
to distance itself from the screwball "religious" voters.



Fortunately, some big time Christian sects have already distanced
themselves from the Republicans for various reasons, mostly involving
ethics. 2007 was a great year for hot gay Republican sex along with
hypocrisy about the subject. That should help drive a wedge between the
party and the sects.



Who are the fundies going to vote for? Republicans, of course.


Well, Huckabee is famous for not reporting gifts received while in office.
If he's the Republican candidate, maybe his dishonesty will be enough to
sway BTCs to vote for Obama.

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On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 11:24:17 -0500, HK wrote:


Voting for Bloomberg is like voting for Ralph Nader. It simply helps
elect a Republican. Bloomberg cannot win.

I'm not saying he would win, but he could win. He has the money, fully a
third of the electorate identify themselves as independent, and if he
could bring in some of the 30-40% of the apathetic, that don't vote, he
could win. Personally, I suspect that much of the apathy is caused by a
general disgust with what the Democrats and Republicans are offering.

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
I admire John McCain for standing up for fellow veteran and fellow
senator John Kerry when Kerry was being smeared and slandered by the
Swift Boaters in '04. McCain knew that the chrages were a combination
of distortion and unbridled BS, and wasn't afraid to say so. To me,
that indicates a preference for truth above partisan politics. That
stand, and some similar over the years, is probably what will cost
McCain any chance to win the R nomination. A candidate needs to appeal
to the party fanatics during the primaries, and then switch gears and
appeal to the center after the conventions. The R party fanatics don't
like McCain all that much- but he would appeal to most of the folks in
the middle. At least IMO.
I don't believe McCain has what it takes to appeal to the simpie
fundies, and they are the ones that control most of the GOP. But I would
like to see him win because it might help restore a little honor and
integrity to the GOP, a party nearly destroyed by the Bush "divide with
fear and conquer" tactics of the last seven years.

I think the GOP nominee will be Huckabee. If it is, I believe he'll be
drowned in the general election, and that will be good for the
Republican Party, because it will be able to use that loss as an excuse
to distance itself from the screwball "religious" voters.


Fortunately, some big time Christian sects have already distanced
themselves from the Republicans for various reasons, mostly involving
ethics. 2007 was a great year for hot gay Republican sex along with
hypocrisy about the subject. That should help drive a wedge between the
party and the sects.


Who are the fundies going to vote for? Republicans, of course.


Well, Huckabee is famous for not reporting gifts received while in office.
If he's the Republican candidate, maybe his dishonesty will be enough to
sway BTCs to vote for Obama.



Oh, please.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Handicapping Iowa...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
I admire John McCain for standing up for fellow veteran and fellow
senator John Kerry when Kerry was being smeared and slandered by the
Swift Boaters in '04. McCain knew that the chrages were a combination
of distortion and unbridled BS, and wasn't afraid to say so. To me,
that indicates a preference for truth above partisan politics. That
stand, and some similar over the years, is probably what will cost
McCain any chance to win the R nomination. A candidate needs to
appeal
to the party fanatics during the primaries, and then switch gears and
appeal to the center after the conventions. The R party fanatics
don't
like McCain all that much- but he would appeal to most of the folks
in
the middle. At least IMO.
I don't believe McCain has what it takes to appeal to the simpie
fundies, and they are the ones that control most of the GOP. But I
would like to see him win because it might help restore a little honor
and integrity to the GOP, a party nearly destroyed by the Bush "divide
with fear and conquer" tactics of the last seven years.

I think the GOP nominee will be Huckabee. If it is, I believe he'll be
drowned in the general election, and that will be good for the
Republican Party, because it will be able to use that loss as an
excuse to distance itself from the screwball "religious" voters.


Fortunately, some big time Christian sects have already distanced
themselves from the Republicans for various reasons, mostly involving
ethics. 2007 was a great year for hot gay Republican sex along with
hypocrisy about the subject. That should help drive a wedge between the
party and the sects.


Who are the fundies going to vote for? Republicans, of course.


Well, Huckabee is famous for not reporting gifts received while in
office. If he's the Republican candidate, maybe his dishonesty will be
enough to sway BTCs to vote for Obama.

Oh, please.


Hey...ya never know. The same idiots voted for Bush. Anything could happen.

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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His military service is also valuable, but not in a way that's obvious.
Success in politics (and other areas of life in general) often depends on
getting certain people to shut the **** up already and stop making noise,
so actual messages can be heard. There's a contingent of voters
(unfortunately) who believe that you cannot formulate foreign policy
unless you've served in the military. McCain's history silences those
idiots, at least on THAT subject.


I am not sure I understand the last two sentences of your post, but I *do*
believe that a military combat veteran is less likely to rush to war than
someone without combat experience.

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...


His military service is also valuable, but not in a way that's obvious.
Success in politics (and other areas of life in general) often depends on
getting certain people to shut the **** up already and stop making noise,
so actual messages can be heard. There's a contingent of voters
(unfortunately) who believe that you cannot formulate foreign policy
unless you've served in the military. McCain's history silences those
idiots, at least on THAT subject.


I am not sure I understand the last two sentences of your post, but I *do*
believe that a military combat veteran is less likely to rush to war than
someone without combat experience.

Eisboch



Perhaps, but formulating foreign policy has nothing whatsoever to do with
military experience.

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On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 11:24:17 -0500, HK wrote:


Voting for Bloomberg is like voting for Ralph Nader. It simply helps
elect a Republican. Bloomberg cannot win.

I'm not saying he would win, but he could win. He has the money, fully a
third of the electorate identify themselves as independent, and if he
could bring in some of the 30-40% of the apathetic, that don't vote, he
could win. Personally, I suspect that much of the apathy is caused by a
general disgust with what the Democrats and Republicans are offering.


Yup... we're only about a tenth of your size but usually have 5 or more
choices.
Some of them can be silly. but are a good protest vote.
Most don't run a candidate in every federal riding... tending to be a
localized thing.
http://www.altstuff.com/federal.htm