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On Jan 5, 6:33*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Now some of
the best Q without the blues bands comes from Harold's. *I have always found the smaller BBQ joints to have better BBQ, they have the time to slow cook their BBQ for 12 hrs or more. *Some of the best ones are only opened 3 days a week your statement is correct about a lot of things. Some people think that Taco Casa is a mexican resteraunt! however I do like to go to Olive Garden for *REAL* Itallian food.... HA! |
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Tim wrote:
On Jan 5, 6:33 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Now some of the best Q without the blues bands comes from Harold's. I have always found the smaller BBQ joints to have better BBQ, they have the time to slow cook their BBQ for 12 hrs or more. Some of the best ones are only opened 3 days a week your statement is correct about a lot of things. Some people think that Taco Casa is a mexican resteraunt! however I do like to go to Olive Garden for *REAL* Itallian food.... HA! Olive Garden, the McDonald's of Italian.... |
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On Jan 5, 2:41*am, "CalifBill" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jan 3, 10:10 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: Tim wrote: On Jan 3, 3:25 pm, wrote: On Jan 3, 4:12 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: wrote: On Jan 3, 8:47 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: wrote: On Jan 2, 4:21 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:58:25 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: You've got it made! There's nothing around my place to hear a good blues band, that is unless I go 100 mi. to the St. Louis area then there the blues joints seem to be a dime a dozen I like "blues" in general, but most of the time you see amateur blues bands that suck - big time. I like seeing local talent. There's lots and lots of damned good musicians out there that have just not been *discovered*. It's a damned hard racket to get into, especially if you have stars in your eyes. Kind of ruins it for me. Funny story about blues music. Way back in time, New Orleans Civic Auditorium - BB King and band. I was still in the service and of my buddies got five of us tickets - excellant seats - third row back/center - out freakin' standing.. I'm normally oblivious to things and I didn't notice that I was the only white guy sitting in that area - meaning floor seats - kinda stood out if you get what I mean. So I'm digging on the music and having a great time - first set goes by, break, then out for the second set. Band is starting up with some kind of high energy R&B thing and BB steps up to the microphrone, starts with Lucille and says - "This one's for the white guy down front" and swings into this rockin' blues number. I'm thinking "white guy down front" then my buddy says "I think he means you". I look around and sure enough... :) Pretty cool. There's a local blues club here that has local talent, and some of the best soul food in the world! Almost all of the times I've been, I've been the only white guy in the place. The big ole lady that does the cooking calls me Bright, so now that's kinda my nickname in the place! She loves the fact that I feel comfortable there and love her cooking! What is the name and where is this club located? I have always loved blues, including blues/rock groups such as the Allman Bros. and Eric Clapton. Many years ago, Underground Atlanta had an old time musician who played the classic Black-blues (ie Muddy Waters, Howling Wolf etc). I think his name was Red.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - At Dante's? Nope, it was on the main street, it was a pub and he played at the window. It was about a half a block from Dante's. I think he was blind, but it has been many years. I have always thought of Dante's asng playing Jazz , not blues.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - They go back and forth. Seems like I go to underground every couple of years, and Dante's is either blues or jazz. It's pretty much a tourist trap, anyway.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There's a Dante's in the atlanta area? Unless it's a different ownership, I thought there was only one Dante's and that was in LA region. Really famous jazz club out there... It is Dante's Down the Hatch. It was designed to resemble an old windjammer. They used to have one in Underground, and one uptown in Buckhead. They have closed the Underground location.http://www.dantesdownthehatch.com/-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Now some of the best Q without the blues bands comes from Harold's. http://atlanta.citysearch.com/profil...a/harold_s_bar... What kind of sauce does Georgia use?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - it's a slightly sweet, slightly tangy medium body sauce in northern Georgia, a lot like Alabama's, except when you gete to southwest georgia, and southeast Alabama, then it's a mustard sauce, though thin, not like the thicker, sweeter, South Carolina mustard sauce. He http://www.fiery-foods.com/dave/bbqsauces.html |
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wrote in message ... On Jan 5, 2:41 am, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 3, 10:10 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: Tim wrote: On Jan 3, 3:25 pm, wrote: On Jan 3, 4:12 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: wrote: On Jan 3, 8:47 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: wrote: On Jan 2, 4:21 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:58:25 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: You've got it made! There's nothing around my place to hear a good blues band, that is unless I go 100 mi. to the St. Louis area then there the blues joints seem to be a dime a dozen I like "blues" in general, but most of the time you see amateur blues bands that suck - big time. I like seeing local talent. There's lots and lots of damned good musicians out there that have just not been *discovered*. It's a damned hard racket to get into, especially if you have stars in your eyes. Kind of ruins it for me. Funny story about blues music. Way back in time, New Orleans Civic Auditorium - BB King and band. I was still in the service and of my buddies got five of us tickets - excellant seats - third row back/center - out freakin' standing. I'm normally oblivious to things and I didn't notice that I was the only white guy sitting in that area - meaning floor seats - kinda stood out if you get what I mean. So I'm digging on the music and having a great time - first set goes by, break, then out for the second set. Band is starting up with some kind of high energy R&B thing and BB steps up to the microphrone, starts with Lucille and says - "This one's for the white guy down front" and swings into this rockin' blues number. I'm thinking "white guy down front" then my buddy says "I think he means you". I look around and sure enough... :) Pretty cool. There's a local blues club here that has local talent, and some of the best soul food in the world! Almost all of the times I've been, I've been the only white guy in the place. The big ole lady that does the cooking calls me Bright, so now that's kinda my nickname in the place! She loves the fact that I feel comfortable there and love her cooking! What is the name and where is this club located? I have always loved blues, including blues/rock groups such as the Allman Bros. and Eric Clapton. Many years ago, Underground Atlanta had an old time musician who played the classic Black-blues (ie Muddy Waters, Howling Wolf etc). I think his name was Red.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - At Dante's? Nope, it was on the main street, it was a pub and he played at the window. It was about a half a block from Dante's. I think he was blind, but it has been many years. I have always thought of Dante's asng playing Jazz , not blues.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - They go back and forth. Seems like I go to underground every couple of years, and Dante's is either blues or jazz. It's pretty much a tourist trap, anyway.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There's a Dante's in the atlanta area? Unless it's a different ownership, I thought there was only one Dante's and that was in LA region. Really famous jazz club out there... It is Dante's Down the Hatch. It was designed to resemble an old windjammer. They used to have one in Underground, and one uptown in Buckhead. They have closed the Underground location.http://www.dantesdownthehatch.com/-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Now some of the best Q without the blues bands comes from Harold's. http://atlanta.citysearch.com/profil...a/harold_s_bar... What kind of sauce does Georgia use?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - it's a slightly sweet, slightly tangy medium body sauce in northern Georgia, a lot like Alabama's, except when you gete to southwest georgia, and southeast Alabama, then it's a mustard sauce, though thin, not like the thicker, sweeter, South Carolina mustard sauce. He http://www.fiery-foods.com/dave/bbqsauces.html Like the North Carolina style better than the heavy tomato based sauces. Last year of so in my smoker, I have gone more to rubs than scauces. Watching food show the other day (I think travel channel) on South Carolina and mustard based, I am inspired to do a mustard que. But cold and rainy now. Makes it too hard to get the temps correct in the smoker. Offset firebox style. |
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On Jan 5, 6:45*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote: your statement is correct about a lot of things. Some people think that Taco Casa is a mexican resteraunt! however I do like to go to OliveGardenfor *REAL* Itallian food.... * HA! OliveGarden, the McDonald's of Italian.... Yes, but look what's cooking tonight? http://www.olivegarden.com/recipes/r...ecipeID=145583 I suppose that OG decided with all the fakers out there, they thought they'd post their's so you could at least get it right...or wrong. |
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Tim wrote:
On Jan 5, 6:45 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: your statement is correct about a lot of things. Some people think that Taco Casa is a mexican resteraunt! however I do like to go to OliveGardenfor *REAL* Itallian food.... HA! OliveGarden, the McDonald's of Italian.... Yes, but look what's cooking tonight? http://www.olivegarden.com/recipes/r...ecipeID=145583 I suppose that OG decided with all the fakers out there, they thought they'd post their's so you could at least get it right...or wrong. Olive Garden isn't haute cuisine, but it certainly is decent food at a decent price. As someone who was born in and grew up in a city with a huge percentage of recently immigrant Italian families, and as someone who dated "extensively" many lovely Italian girls in my youth, I have a taste for "real Italian food." There are several "Italian cuisines" extant in Italy and in this country, and they are marvelously different from each other. I don't frequent Olive Garden but I have eaten there a few times over the years, and I can't recall having a "bad meal." Was the food I ordered and ate "genuine Italian," whatever that is? Surely not, but it was "Italianate," as they say. We have an immigrant Italian family in the area. They operate two first-class family Italian restaurants, sort of like Louis Restaurant in the Bronx (from Godfather I) but a little fancier. Reggie, as usual, is demonstrating he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the wall. For a guy who never discusses his life, his family, his possessions, et cetera, he certainly has much in the way of criticism of others. |
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On Jan 20, 4:08*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote: On Jan 5, 6:45 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: your statement is correct about a lot of things. Some people think that Taco Casa is a mexican resteraunt! however I do like to go to OliveGardenfor *REAL* Itallian food.... * HA! OliveGarden, the McDonald's of Italian.... Yes, but *look what's cooking tonight? http://www.olivegarden.com/recipes/r..._detail.asp?re... I suppose that OG decided with all the fakers out there, they thought they'd post their's so you could at least get it right...or wrong. Olive Garden isn't haute cuisine, but it certainly is decent food at a decent price. As someone who was born in and grew up in a city with a huge percentage of recently immigrant Italian families, and as someone who dated "extensively" many lovely Italian girls in my youth, I have a taste for "real Italian food." There are several "Italian cuisines" extant in Italy and in this country, and they are marvelously different from each other. I don't frequent Olive Garden but I have eaten there a few times over the years, and I can't recall having a "bad meal." Was the food I ordered and ate "genuine Italian," whatever that is? Surely not, but it was "Italianate," as they say. We have an immigrant Italian family in the area. They operate two first-class family Italian restaurants, sort of like Louis Restaurant in the Bronx (from Godfather I) but a little fancier. Reggie, as usual, is demonstrating he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the wall. For a guy who never discusses his life, his family, his possessions, et cetera, he certainly has much in the way of criticism of others.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I never order their pasta sauce dish's like spaghetti or ravioli. I figure I can eat Chef-boy-r-di out of a can at home. Not imressive stuff, so I go with the more odd things that you just dont' get anywhere. I know what you mean by REAL italian food. In St. Louis there's an area called "Dago Hill" in the late 1800's it was home to gobs of italian immigrants and that's what the place is called even by the italians. There's several family run resturants there that have been in business for many generations. When you go into the place and see pictures of the Virgin and Crrcifix's on the walls, with "Mama" and Papa" still speaking in destinctive accents, and the old traditional wine bottles with globs of candle was dripped over them, you know you're in the right spot. OG's be hanged. but I still like eating they're chicken marsala.... |
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:08:29 -0500, HK wrote:
Tim wrote: On Jan 5, 6:45 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: your statement is correct about a lot of things. Some people think that Taco Casa is a mexican resteraunt! however I do like to go to OliveGardenfor *REAL* Itallian food.... HA! OliveGarden, the McDonald's of Italian.... Yes, but look what's cooking tonight? http://www.olivegarden.com/recipes/r...ecipeID=145583 I suppose that OG decided with all the fakers out there, they thought they'd post their's so you could at least get it right...or wrong. Olive Garden isn't haute cuisine, but it certainly is decent food at a decent price. As someone who was born in and grew up in a city with a huge percentage of recently immigrant Italian families, and as someone who dated "extensively" many lovely Italian girls in my youth, I have a taste for "real Italian food." There are several "Italian cuisines" extant in Italy and in this country, and they are marvelously different from each other. I don't frequent Olive Garden but I have eaten there a few times over the years, and I can't recall having a "bad meal." Was the food I ordered and ate "genuine Italian," whatever that is? Surely not, but it was "Italianate," as they say. We have an immigrant Italian family in the area. They operate two first-class family Italian restaurants, sort of like Louis Restaurant in the Bronx (from Godfather I) but a little fancier. Reggie, as usual, is demonstrating he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the wall. For a guy who never discusses his life, his family, his possessions, et cetera, he certainly has much in the way of criticism of others. Very cool, Harry. For one who is never critical of others, you are 'tres cool'. -- Red Herring |
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"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 20, 4:08 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Jan 5, 6:45 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: your statement is correct about a lot of things. Some people think that Taco Casa is a mexican resteraunt! however I do like to go to OliveGardenfor *REAL* Itallian food.... HA! OliveGarden, the McDonald's of Italian.... Yes, but look what's cooking tonight? http://www.olivegarden.com/recipes/r..._detail.asp?re... I suppose that OG decided with all the fakers out there, they thought they'd post their's so you could at least get it right...or wrong. Olive Garden isn't haute cuisine, but it certainly is decent food at a decent price. As someone who was born in and grew up in a city with a huge percentage of recently immigrant Italian families, and as someone who dated "extensively" many lovely Italian girls in my youth, I have a taste for "real Italian food." There are several "Italian cuisines" extant in Italy and in this country, and they are marvelously different from each other. I don't frequent Olive Garden but I have eaten there a few times over the years, and I can't recall having a "bad meal." Was the food I ordered and ate "genuine Italian," whatever that is? Surely not, but it was "Italianate," as they say. We have an immigrant Italian family in the area. They operate two first-class family Italian restaurants, sort of like Louis Restaurant in the Bronx (from Godfather I) but a little fancier. Reggie, as usual, is demonstrating he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the wall. For a guy who never discusses his life, his family, his possessions, et cetera, he certainly has much in the way of criticism of others.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I never order their pasta sauce dish's like spaghetti or ravioli. I figure I can eat Chef-boy-r-di out of a can at home. Not imressive stuff, so I go with the more odd things that you just dont' get anywhere. I know what you mean by REAL italian food. In St. Louis there's an area called "Dago Hill" in the late 1800's it was home to gobs of italian immigrants and that's what the place is called even by the italians. There's several family run resturants there that have been in business for many generations. When you go into the place and see pictures of the Virgin and Crrcifix's on the walls, with "Mama" and Papa" still speaking in destinctive accents, and the old traditional wine bottles with globs of candle was dripped over them, you know you're in the right spot. OG's be hanged. but I still like eating they're chicken marsala.... What is "real Italian food"? Being married to a part Italian from the Northern Italians, and having traveled somewhat in Italy, there are different cuisines depending on region. The Northern / Swiss Italian's are not as much into the heavy red sauces. And Chippino is a Genovese regional dish. Which means it also has a lot of Catalan influence. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 20, 4:08 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Jan 5, 6:45 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: your statement is correct about a lot of things. Some people think that Taco Casa is a mexican resteraunt! however I do like to go to OliveGardenfor *REAL* Itallian food.... HA! OliveGarden, the McDonald's of Italian.... Yes, but look what's cooking tonight? http://www.olivegarden.com/recipes/r..._detail.asp?re... I suppose that OG decided with all the fakers out there, they thought they'd post their's so you could at least get it right...or wrong. Olive Garden isn't haute cuisine, but it certainly is decent food at a decent price. As someone who was born in and grew up in a city with a huge percentage of recently immigrant Italian families, and as someone who dated "extensively" many lovely Italian girls in my youth, I have a taste for "real Italian food." There are several "Italian cuisines" extant in Italy and in this country, and they are marvelously different from each other. I don't frequent Olive Garden but I have eaten there a few times over the years, and I can't recall having a "bad meal." Was the food I ordered and ate "genuine Italian," whatever that is? Surely not, but it was "Italianate," as they say. We have an immigrant Italian family in the area. They operate two first-class family Italian restaurants, sort of like Louis Restaurant in the Bronx (from Godfather I) but a little fancier. Reggie, as usual, is demonstrating he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the wall. For a guy who never discusses his life, his family, his possessions, et cetera, he certainly has much in the way of criticism of others.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I never order their pasta sauce dish's like spaghetti or ravioli. I figure I can eat Chef-boy-r-di out of a can at home. Not imressive stuff, so I go with the more odd things that you just dont' get anywhere. I know what you mean by REAL italian food. In St. Louis there's an area called "Dago Hill" in the late 1800's it was home to gobs of italian immigrants and that's what the place is called even by the italians. There's several family run resturants there that have been in business for many generations. When you go into the place and see pictures of the Virgin and Crrcifix's on the walls, with "Mama" and Papa" still speaking in destinctive accents, and the old traditional wine bottles with globs of candle was dripped over them, you know you're in the right spot. OG's be hanged. but I still like eating they're chicken marsala.... What is "real Italian food"? Being married to a part Italian from the Northern Italians, and having traveled somewhat in Italy, there are different cuisines depending on region. The Northern / Swiss Italian's are not as much into the heavy red sauces. And Chippino is a Genovese regional dish. Which means it also has a lot of Catalan influence. We were fortunate in New Haven to be neighbors of an immigrant Italian family with three American-born sons. The mother, a wonderful woman who I loved, was stuck in a houseful of really skinny males, including her husband. She could always count on me to come by and "eat like a real Italian boy." That woman could *cook*. My father's retail store was about two miles away from an old-style Italian deli that was always jammed with customers. My dad used to send someone there every Saturday to buy a carryout lunch at the store for whoever was working at the boat store and for whatever customers wandered in. It wasn't until much later in life that I learned the deli was the "front business" for the local don. Which probably explains why all the cops came by for lunch, too. |
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On Jan 20, 6:01*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
What is "real Italian food"? * Not the punch press fodder you get at Olive Garden. |
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On Jan 20, 6:01*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 20, 4:08 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Jan 5, 6:45 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: your statement is correct about a lot of things. Some people think that Taco Casa is a mexican resteraunt! however I do like to go to OliveGardenfor *REAL* Itallian food.... HA! OliveGarden, the McDonald's of Italian.... Yes, but look what's cooking tonight? http://www.olivegarden.com/recipes/r..._detail.asp?re.... I suppose that OG decided with all the fakers out there, they thought they'd post their's so you could at least get it right...or wrong. Olive Garden isn't haute cuisine, but it certainly is decent food at a decent price. As someone who was born in and grew up in a city with a huge percentage of recently immigrant Italian families, and as someone who dated "extensively" many lovely Italian girls in my youth, I have a taste for "real Italian food." There are several "Italian cuisines" extant in Italy and in this country, and they are marvelously different from each other. I don't frequent Olive Garden but I have eaten there a few times over the years, and I can't recall having a "bad meal." Was the food I ordered and ate "genuine Italian," whatever that is? Surely not, but it was "Italianate," as they say. We have an immigrant Italian family in the area. They operate two first-class family Italian restaurants, sort of like Louis Restaurant in the Bronx (from Godfather I) but a little fancier. Reggie, as usual, is demonstrating he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the wall. For a guy who never discusses his life, his family, his possessions, et cetera, he certainly has much in the way of criticism of others.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I never order their pasta sauce dish's like spaghetti or ravioli. I figure I can eat Chef-boy-r-di out of a can at home. Not imressive stuff, so I go with the more odd things that you just dont' get anywhere. I know what you mean by REAL italian food. In St. Louis there's an area called "Dago Hill" in the late 1800's it was home to gobs of italian immigrants and that's what the place is called even by the italians. There's several family run resturants there that have been in business for many generations. *When you go into the place and see pictures of the Virgin and Crrcifix's on the walls, with "Mama" and Papa" still speaking in destinctive accents, and the old traditional wine bottles with globs of candle was dripped over them, you know you're in the right spot. OG's be hanged. but I still like eating they're chicken marsala.... What is "real Italian food"? *Being married to a part Italian from the Northern Italians, and having traveled somewhat in Italy, there are different cuisines depending on region. *The Northern / Swiss Italian's are not as much into the heavy red sauces. *And Chippino is a Genovese regional dish. *Which means it also has a lot of Catalan influence.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - After ww2 isn't northern Italy now southern Austria? Well, I dont' think many "Italian" resturaunts offer "Schnitzle" |
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Tim wrote:
On Jan 20, 6:01 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 20, 4:08 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Jan 5, 6:45 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: your statement is correct about a lot of things. Some people think that Taco Casa is a mexican resteraunt! however I do like to go to OliveGardenfor *REAL* Itallian food.... HA! OliveGarden, the McDonald's of Italian.... Yes, but look what's cooking tonight? http://www.olivegarden.com/recipes/r..._detail.asp?re... I suppose that OG decided with all the fakers out there, they thought they'd post their's so you could at least get it right...or wrong. Olive Garden isn't haute cuisine, but it certainly is decent food at a decent price. As someone who was born in and grew up in a city with a huge percentage of recently immigrant Italian families, and as someone who dated "extensively" many lovely Italian girls in my youth, I have a taste for "real Italian food." There are several "Italian cuisines" extant in Italy and in this country, and they are marvelously different from each other. I don't frequent Olive Garden but I have eaten there a few times over the years, and I can't recall having a "bad meal." Was the food I ordered and ate "genuine Italian," whatever that is? Surely not, but it was "Italianate," as they say. We have an immigrant Italian family in the area. They operate two first-class family Italian restaurants, sort of like Louis Restaurant in the Bronx (from Godfather I) but a little fancier. Reggie, as usual, is demonstrating he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the wall. For a guy who never discusses his life, his family, his possessions, et cetera, he certainly has much in the way of criticism of others.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I never order their pasta sauce dish's like spaghetti or ravioli. I figure I can eat Chef-boy-r-di out of a can at home. Not imressive stuff, so I go with the more odd things that you just dont' get anywhere. I know what you mean by REAL italian food. In St. Louis there's an area called "Dago Hill" in the late 1800's it was home to gobs of italian immigrants and that's what the place is called even by the italians. There's several family run resturants there that have been in business for many generations. When you go into the place and see pictures of the Virgin and Crrcifix's on the walls, with "Mama" and Papa" still speaking in destinctive accents, and the old traditional wine bottles with globs of candle was dripped over them, you know you're in the right spot. OG's be hanged. but I still like eating they're chicken marsala.... What is "real Italian food"? Being married to a part Italian from the Northern Italians, and having traveled somewhat in Italy, there are different cuisines depending on region. The Northern / Swiss Italian's are not as much into the heavy red sauces. And Chippino is a Genovese regional dish. Which means it also has a lot of Catalan influence.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - After ww2 isn't northern Italy now southern Austria? Well, I dont' think many "Italian" resturaunts offer "Schnitzle" The best French restaurant in the metro DC area is owned by a family from Alsace, which is just barely France - an area adjacent to Germany and Switzerland. In fact, it has been German as often as French in the last few hundred years. |
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"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 20, 6:01 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 20, 4:08 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Jan 5, 6:45 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: your statement is correct about a lot of things. Some people think that Taco Casa is a mexican resteraunt! however I do like to go to OliveGardenfor *REAL* Itallian food.... HA! OliveGarden, the McDonald's of Italian.... Yes, but look what's cooking tonight? http://www.olivegarden.com/recipes/r..._detail.asp?re... I suppose that OG decided with all the fakers out there, they thought they'd post their's so you could at least get it right...or wrong. Olive Garden isn't haute cuisine, but it certainly is decent food at a decent price. As someone who was born in and grew up in a city with a huge percentage of recently immigrant Italian families, and as someone who dated "extensively" many lovely Italian girls in my youth, I have a taste for "real Italian food." There are several "Italian cuisines" extant in Italy and in this country, and they are marvelously different from each other. I don't frequent Olive Garden but I have eaten there a few times over the years, and I can't recall having a "bad meal." Was the food I ordered and ate "genuine Italian," whatever that is? Surely not, but it was "Italianate," as they say. We have an immigrant Italian family in the area. They operate two first-class family Italian restaurants, sort of like Louis Restaurant in the Bronx (from Godfather I) but a little fancier. Reggie, as usual, is demonstrating he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the wall. For a guy who never discusses his life, his family, his possessions, et cetera, he certainly has much in the way of criticism of others.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I never order their pasta sauce dish's like spaghetti or ravioli. I figure I can eat Chef-boy-r-di out of a can at home. Not imressive stuff, so I go with the more odd things that you just dont' get anywhere. I know what you mean by REAL italian food. In St. Louis there's an area called "Dago Hill" in the late 1800's it was home to gobs of italian immigrants and that's what the place is called even by the italians. There's several family run resturants there that have been in business for many generations. When you go into the place and see pictures of the Virgin and Crrcifix's on the walls, with "Mama" and Papa" still speaking in destinctive accents, and the old traditional wine bottles with globs of candle was dripped over them, you know you're in the right spot. OG's be hanged. but I still like eating they're chicken marsala.... What is "real Italian food"? Being married to a part Italian from the Northern Italians, and having traveled somewhat in Italy, there are different cuisines depending on region. The Northern / Swiss Italian's are not as much into the heavy red sauces. And Chippino is a Genovese regional dish. Which means it also has a lot of Catalan influence.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - After ww2 isn't northern Italy now southern Austria? Well, I dont' think many "Italian" resturaunts offer "Schnitzle" The Northern Italy my wifes Great grandmother came from is actually 20 miles into Switzerland. Lots of the Swiss-Italians immigrated to California. The Susanville area and dairy farms on the Marin coast. Plus a few wine makers. |
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On Jan 20, 7:53*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote: The best French restaurant in the metro DC area is owned by a family from Alsace, which is just barely France - an area adjacent to Germany and Switzerland. In fact, it has been German as often as French in the last few hundred years.- Hide quoted text - In town was a local guy that married a german girl right after WW2 and brought her here to the states. She spoke good english but never lost the heavy low german accent. And she told me how during "ze var", Her family took decent care of french prisoners on their family farm. I asked her why, French were taken better care of then other nationalities. and she said it was out of courtesy because over history....."Sometimes they vin!" Make of it what you will, but I thought it was a candid aproach. |
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The best French restaurant in the metro DC area is owned by a family from Alsace, which is just barely France - an area adjacent to Germany and Switzerland. In fact, it has been German as often as French in the last few hundred years. Does this restaurant have a name? |
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HK wrote: The best French restaurant in the metro DC area is owned by a family from Alsace, which is just barely France - an area adjacent to Germany and Switzerland. In fact, it has been German as often as French in the last few hundred years. Does this restaurant have a name? Sure does, and you don't want to miss the desserts. |
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BAR wrote: HK wrote: The best French restaurant in the metro DC area is owned by a family from Alsace, which is just barely France - an area adjacent to Germany and Switzerland. In fact, it has been German as often as French in the last few hundred years. Does this restaurant have a name? Sure does, and you don't want to miss the desserts. Ooops...forgot the URL: http://www.laubergechezfrancois.com/ -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever! |
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:48:55 -0500, BAR wrote:
HK wrote: The best French restaurant in the metro DC area is owned by a family from Alsace, which is just barely France - an area adjacent to Germany and Switzerland. In fact, it has been German as often as French in the last few hundred years. Does this restaurant have a name? Le Roi D'Hamburger. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:48:55 -0500, BAR wrote: HK wrote: The best French restaurant in the metro DC area is owned by a family from Alsace, which is just barely France - an area adjacent to Germany and Switzerland. In fact, it has been German as often as French in the last few hundred years. Does this restaurant have a name? Le Roi D'Hamburger. I am so glad they re-opened the Le Roi D'Hamburger in this area. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:48:55 -0500, BAR wrote: HK wrote: The best French restaurant in the metro DC area is owned by a family from Alsace, which is just barely France - an area adjacent to Germany and Switzerland. In fact, it has been German as often as French in the last few hundred years. Does this restaurant have a name? Le Roi D'Hamburger. I am so glad they re-opened the Le Roi D'Hamburger in this area. I doubt you'd like the place *I* suggested. The customers there aren't your kind of people. |
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On Jan 20, 5:08*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote: On Jan 5, 6:45 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: your statement is correct about a lot of things. Some people think that Taco Casa is a mexican resteraunt! however I do like to go to OliveGardenfor *REAL* Itallian food.... * HA! OliveGarden, the McDonald's of Italian.... Yes, but *look what's cooking tonight? http://www.olivegarden.com/recipes/r..._detail.asp?re... I suppose that OG decided with all the fakers out there, they thought they'd post their's so you could at least get it right...or wrong. Olive Garden isn't haute cuisine, but it certainly is decent food at a decent price. As someone who was born in and grew up in a city with a huge percentage of recently immigrant Italian families, and as someone who dated "extensively" many lovely Italian girls in my youth, I have a taste for "real Italian food." There are several "Italian cuisines" extant in Italy and in this country, and they are marvelously different from each other. I don't frequent Olive Garden but I have eaten there a few times over the years, and I can't recall having a "bad meal." Was the food I ordered and ate "genuine Italian," whatever that is? Surely not, but it was "Italianate," as they say. We have an immigrant Italian family in the area. They operate two first-class family Italian restaurants, sort of like Louis Restaurant in the Bronx (from Godfather I) but a little fancier. Reggie, as usual, is demonstrating he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the wall. For a guy who never discusses his life, his family, his possessions, et cetera, he certainly has much in the way of criticism of others.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, we know you'd never, ever be critical of someone else's things, what they like to fish for, what they like to do with their boats, where they like to live, et cetera....... |
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On Jan 5, 3:19*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jan 5, 2:41 am, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 3, 10:10 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: Tim wrote: On Jan 3, 3:25 pm, wrote: On Jan 3, 4:12 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: wrote: On Jan 3, 8:47 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: wrote: On Jan 2, 4:21 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:58:25 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: You've got it made! There's nothing around my place to hear a good blues band, that is unless I go 100 mi. to the St. Louis area then there the blues joints seem to be a dime a dozen I like "blues" in general, but most of the time you see amateur blues bands that suck - big time. I like seeing local talent. There's lots and lots of damned good musicians out there that have just not been *discovered*. It's a damned hard racket to get into, especially if you have stars in your eyes. Kind of ruins it for me. Funny story about blues music. Way back in time, New Orleans Civic Auditorium - BB King and band. I was still in the service and of my buddies got five of us tickets - excellant seats - third row back/center - out freakin' standing. I'm normally oblivious to things and I didn't notice that I was the only white guy sitting in that area - meaning floor seats - kinda stood out if you get what I mean. So I'm digging on the music and having a great time - first set goes by, break, then out for the second set. Band is starting up with some kind of high energy R&B thing and BB steps up to the microphrone, starts with Lucille and says - "This one's for the white guy down front" and swings into this rockin' blues number. I'm thinking "white guy down front" then my buddy says "I think he means you". I look around and sure enough... :) Pretty cool. There's a local blues club here that has local talent, and some of the best soul food in the world! Almost all of the times I've been, I've been the only white guy in the place. The big ole lady that does the cooking calls me Bright, so now that's kinda my nickname in the place! She loves the fact that I feel comfortable there and love her cooking! What is the name and where is this club located? I have always loved blues, including blues/rock groups such as the Allman Bros. and Eric Clapton. Many years ago, Underground Atlanta had an old time musician who played the classic Black-blues (ie Muddy Waters, Howling Wolf etc). I think his name was Red.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - At Dante's? Nope, it was on the main street, it was a pub and he played at the window. It was about a half a block from Dante's. I think he was blind, but it has been many years. I have always thought of Dante's asng playing Jazz , not blues.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - They go back and forth. Seems like I go to underground every couple of years, and Dante's is either blues or jazz. It's pretty much a tourist trap, anyway.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There's a Dante's in the atlanta area? Unless it's a different ownership, I thought there was only one Dante's and that was in LA region. Really famous jazz club out there... It is Dante's Down the Hatch. It was designed to resemble an old windjammer. They used to have one in Underground, and one uptown in Buckhead. They have closed the Underground location.http://www.dantesdownthehatch.com/-Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - Now some of the best Q without the blues bands comes from Harold's. http://atlanta.citysearch.com/profil...a/harold_s_bar... What kind of sauce does Georgia use?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - it's a slightly sweet, slightly tangy medium body sauce in northern Georgia, a lot like Alabama's, except when you gete to southwest georgia, and southeast Alabama, then it's a mustard sauce, though thin, not like the thicker, sweeter, South Carolina mustard sauce. Hehttp://www.fiery-foods.com/dave/bbqsauces.html Like the North Carolina style better than the heavy tomato based sauces. Last year of so in my smoker, I have gone more to rubs than scauces. Watching food show the other day (I think travel channel) on South Carolina and mustard based, *I am inspired to do a mustard que. *But cold and rainy now. *Makes it too hard to get the temps correct in the smoker. *Offset firebox style.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I always use my homemade rub on pork. I'm not a die hard fan of any one type of sauce, I like them all on occasion. I use my smoker all year long. In northern Alabama they actually have a mayonaise based white sauce thats actually quite good. |
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:05:38 -0800 (PST), wrote:
I always use my homemade rub on pork. I'm not a die hard fan of any one type of sauce, I like them all on occasion. I use my smoker all year long. In northern Alabama they actually have a mayonaise based white sauce thats actually quite good. A real man would post his recipe for homemade rub. -- Red Herring |
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On Jan 21, 10:14*am, Red Herring
wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:05:38 -0800 (PST), wrote: I always use my homemade rub on pork. I'm not a die hard fan of any one type of sauce, I like them all on occasion. I use my smoker all year long. In northern Alabama they actually have a mayonaise based white sauce thats actually quite good. A real man would post his recipe for homemade rub. -- Red Herring absafrekinlootly...;) |
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Red Herring wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:05:38 -0800 (PST), wrote: I always use my homemade rub on pork. I'm not a die hard fan of any one type of sauce, I like them all on occasion. I use my smoker all year long. In northern Alabama they actually have a mayonaise based white sauce thats actually quite good. A real man would post his recipe for homemade rub. If it existed. |
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On Jan 21, 10:14*am, Red Herring
wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:05:38 -0800 (PST), wrote: I always use my homemade rub on pork. I'm not a die hard fan of any one type of sauce, I like them all on occasion. I use my smoker all year long. In northern Alabama they actually have a mayonaise based white sauce thats actually quite good. A real man would post his recipe for homemade rub. -- Red Herring Here ya go! ½ Cup Lemon Pepper ¼ Cup Cayenne ¼ Cup Curry Powder ¼ Cup Chili Powder 1/8 Cup Salt 1/8 Cup Celery Seed ¼ Cup Paprika 1/8 Cup Red Pepper ¼ Cup Onion Salt ¼ Cup Garlic Powder ½ Cup Lawry Season Salt ½ Cup Brown Sugar Goes very well with this sauce, also an original recipe of mine: Ingredients 1 can (28 oz.) tomato puree 1/3 cup yellow mustard 3 cups water 1 ½ cups cider vinegar 1/4 dark corn syrup 2 tablespoons lemon juice 2 tablespoons sugar 2 tablespoons packed brown sugar 2 tablespoons chili powder 1 tablespoon dry mustard 1 tablespoon paprika 2 teaspoons ground red pepper 2 teaspoons onion powder 1 teaspoon salt 1 teaspoon ground black pepper ½ teaspoon garlic powder In large saucepan, whisk together the tomato puree and mustard until smooth. Stir in remaining ingredients. Bring to a boil. Reduce heat to low and simmer for 30 minutes, stirring occasionally. |
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On Jan 21, 10:25*am, wrote:
On Jan 21, 10:14*am, Red Herring wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:05:38 -0800 (PST), wrote: I always use my homemade rub on pork. I'm not a die hard fan of any one type of sauce, I like them all on occasion. I use my smoker all year long. In northern Alabama they actually have a mayonaise based white sauce thats actually quite good. A real man would post his recipe for homemade rub. -- Red Herring absafrekinlootly...;) See above! |
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On Jan 21, 11:38*am, harry krause wrote:
wrote: On Jan 21, 10:14 am, Red Herring wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:05:38 -0800 (PST), wrote: I always use my homemade rub on pork. I'm not a die hard fan of any one type of sauce, I like them all on occasion. I use my smoker all year long. In northern Alabama they actually have a mayonaise based white sauce thats actually quite good. A real man would post his recipe for homemade rub. -- Red Herring Here ya go! ½ Cup Lemon Pepper ¼ Cup Cayenne ¼ Cup Curry Powder ¼ Cup Chili Powder 1/8 Cup Salt 1/8 Cup Celery Seed ¼ Cup Paprika 1/8 Cup Red Pepper ¼ Cup Onion Salt ¼ Cup Garlic Powder ½ Cup Lawry Season Salt ½ Cup Brown Sugar Goes very well with this sauce, also an original recipe of mine: Ingredients 1 can (28 oz.) tomato puree 1/3 cup yellow mustard 3 cups water 1 ½ cups cider vinegar 1/4 dark corn syrup 2 tablespoons lemon juice 2 tablespoons sugar 2 tablespoons packed brown sugar 2 tablespoons chili powder 1 tablespoon dry mustard 1 tablespoon paprika 2 teaspoons ground red pepper 2 teaspoons onion powder 1 teaspoon salt 1 teaspoon ground black pepper ½ teaspoon garlic powder *In large saucepan, whisk together the tomato puree and mustard until smooth. Stir in remaining ingredients. Bring to a boil. Reduce heat to low and simmer for 30 minutes, stirring occasionally. Is that the crap that put you in the hospital, or were you eating that concrete readymix you know nothing about?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What hospital? You're getting just like your reacharound buddy, JimH with the wild untrue allegations. Now, seeing how you are acting like a little child, would you like to show me where I've ever been wrong about anything I've said concerning concrete and it's structural attributes? |
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On Jan 21, 12:23*pm, Red Herring
wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:36:19 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 21, 10:14*am, Red Herring wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:05:38 -0800 (PST), wrote: I always use my homemade rub on pork. I'm not a die hard fan of any one type of sauce, I like them all on occasion. I use my smoker all year long. In northern Alabama they actually have a mayonaise based white sauce thats actually quite good. A real man would post his recipe for homemade rub. -- Red Herring Here ya go! ½ Cup Lemon Pepper ¼ Cup Cayenne ¼ Cup Curry Powder ¼ Cup Chili Powder 1/8 Cup Salt 1/8 Cup Celery Seed ¼ Cup Paprika 1/8 Cup Red Pepper ¼ Cup Onion Salt ¼ Cup Garlic Powder ½ Cup Lawry Season Salt ½ Cup Brown Sugar Goes very well with this sauce, also an original recipe of mine: Ingredients 1 can (28 oz.) tomato puree 1/3 cup yellow mustard 3 cups water 1 ½ cups cider vinegar 1/4 dark corn syrup 2 tablespoons lemon juice 2 tablespoons sugar 2 tablespoons packed brown sugar 2 tablespoons chili powder 1 tablespoon dry mustard 1 tablespoon paprika 2 teaspoons ground red pepper 2 teaspoons onion powder 1 teaspoon salt 1 teaspoon ground black pepper ½ teaspoon garlic powder In large saucepan, whisk together the tomato puree and mustard until smooth. Stir in remaining ingredients. Bring to a boil. Reduce heat to low and simmer for 30 minutes, stirring occasionally. Only a real man would post a recipe like that! Thanks. -- Red Herring- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My pleasure! |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 20, 4:08 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Jan 5, 6:45 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: your statement is correct about a lot of things. Some people think that Taco Casa is a mexican resteraunt! however I do like to go to OliveGardenfor *REAL* Itallian food.... HA! OliveGarden, the McDonald's of Italian.... Yes, but look what's cooking tonight? http://www.olivegarden.com/recipes/r..._detail.asp?re... I suppose that OG decided with all the fakers out there, they thought they'd post their's so you could at least get it right...or wrong. Olive Garden isn't haute cuisine, but it certainly is decent food at a decent price. As someone who was born in and grew up in a city with a huge percentage of recently immigrant Italian families, and as someone who dated "extensively" many lovely Italian girls in my youth, I have a taste for "real Italian food." There are several "Italian cuisines" extant in Italy and in this country, and they are marvelously different from each other. I don't frequent Olive Garden but I have eaten there a few times over the years, and I can't recall having a "bad meal." Was the food I ordered and ate "genuine Italian," whatever that is? Surely not, but it was "Italianate," as they say. We have an immigrant Italian family in the area. They operate two first-class family Italian restaurants, sort of like Louis Restaurant in the Bronx (from Godfather I) but a little fancier. Reggie, as usual, is demonstrating he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the wall. For a guy who never discusses his life, his family, his possessions, et cetera, he certainly has much in the way of criticism of others.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I never order their pasta sauce dish's like spaghetti or ravioli. I figure I can eat Chef-boy-r-di out of a can at home. Not imressive stuff, so I go with the more odd things that you just dont' get anywhere. I know what you mean by REAL italian food. In St. Louis there's an area called "Dago Hill" in the late 1800's it was home to gobs of italian immigrants and that's what the place is called even by the italians. There's several family run resturants there that have been in business for many generations. When you go into the place and see pictures of the Virgin and Crrcifix's on the walls, with "Mama" and Papa" still speaking in destinctive accents, and the old traditional wine bottles with globs of candle was dripped over them, you know you're in the right spot. OG's be hanged. but I still like eating they're chicken marsala.... What is "real Italian food"? Being married to a part Italian from the Northern Italians, and having traveled somewhat in Italy, there are different cuisines depending on region. The Northern / Swiss Italian's are not as much into the heavy red sauces. And Chippino is a Genovese regional dish. Which means it also has a lot of Catalan influence. Bill: You know what you are talking about!!!!!!! Having spent the first 29 years of my existance in St.Louis and loving the food in the "Hill" area I know exactly what you are talking about. The best place on the "Hill" in my opinion is - http://www.cunetto.com/ There are many other notable places, but this is the one I try to get to when I am back visiting. Since leaving St.Louis it has been very hard to find anything that is close. We have found some good places here and there, but nothing comes close to what "The Hill" has to offer. Heck even the local frozen food Italian pizza brands "Lucias" being our favorite beat all the pizza joints I can think of that are not local St.louis places. Whenever we visit we bring a big with cooler and pack it full of pizza's and toasted ravioli. Got restocked thanksgiving - :-) Whats really wierd is that Olive Garden in one of the few places that has Toasted Ravioli, outside of St.louis. - go figure Capt Jack R.. |
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HK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 20, 4:08 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Jan 5, 6:45 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: your statement is correct about a lot of things. Some people think that Taco Casa is a mexican resteraunt! however I do like to go to OliveGardenfor *REAL* Itallian food.... HA! OliveGarden, the McDonald's of Italian.... Yes, but look what's cooking tonight? http://www.olivegarden.com/recipes/r..._detail.asp?re... I suppose that OG decided with all the fakers out there, they thought they'd post their's so you could at least get it right...or wrong. Olive Garden isn't haute cuisine, but it certainly is decent food at a decent price. As someone who was born in and grew up in a city with a huge percentage of recently immigrant Italian families, and as someone who dated "extensively" many lovely Italian girls in my youth, I have a taste for "real Italian food." There are several "Italian cuisines" extant in Italy and in this country, and they are marvelously different from each other. I don't frequent Olive Garden but I have eaten there a few times over the years, and I can't recall having a "bad meal." Was the food I ordered and ate "genuine Italian," whatever that is? Surely not, but it was "Italianate," as they say. We have an immigrant Italian family in the area. They operate two first-class family Italian restaurants, sort of like Louis Restaurant in the Bronx (from Godfather I) but a little fancier. Reggie, as usual, is demonstrating he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the wall. For a guy who never discusses his life, his family, his possessions, et cetera, he certainly has much in the way of criticism of others.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I never order their pasta sauce dish's like spaghetti or ravioli. I figure I can eat Chef-boy-r-di out of a can at home. Not imressive stuff, so I go with the more odd things that you just dont' get anywhere. I know what you mean by REAL italian food. In St. Louis there's an area called "Dago Hill" in the late 1800's it was home to gobs of italian immigrants and that's what the place is called even by the italians. There's several family run resturants there that have been in business for many generations. When you go into the place and see pictures of the Virgin and Crrcifix's on the walls, with "Mama" and Papa" still speaking in destinctive accents, and the old traditional wine bottles with globs of candle was dripped over them, you know you're in the right spot. OG's be hanged. but I still like eating they're chicken marsala.... What is "real Italian food"? Being married to a part Italian from the Northern Italians, and having traveled somewhat in Italy, there are different cuisines depending on region. The Northern / Swiss Italian's are not as much into the heavy red sauces. And Chippino is a Genovese regional dish. Which means it also has a lot of Catalan influence. We were fortunate in New Haven to be neighbors of an immigrant Italian family with three American-born sons. The mother, a wonderful woman who I loved, was stuck in a houseful of really skinny males, including her husband. She could always count on me to come by and "eat like a real Italian boy." That woman could *cook*. My father's retail store was about two miles away from an old-style Italian deli that was always jammed with customers. My dad used to send someone there every Saturday to buy a carryout lunch at the store for whoever was working at the boat store and for whatever customers wandered in. It wasn't until much later in life that I learned the deli was the "front business" for the local don. Which probably explains why all the cops came by for lunch, too. Here we go... |
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On Jan 21, 6:49*pm, Jack Redington wrote:
Calif Bill wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 20, 4:08 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Jan 5, 6:45 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: your statement is correct about a lot of things. Some people think that Taco Casa is a mexican resteraunt! however I do like to go to OliveGardenfor *REAL* Itallian food.... HA! OliveGarden, the McDonald's of Italian.... Yes, but look what's cooking tonight? http://www.olivegarden.com/recipes/r..._detail.asp?re.... I suppose that OG decided with all the fakers out there, they thought they'd post their's so you could at least get it right...or wrong. Olive Garden isn't haute cuisine, but it certainly is decent food at a decent price. As someone who was born in and grew up in a city with a huge percentage of recently immigrant Italian families, and as someone who dated "extensively" many lovely Italian girls in my youth, I have a taste for "real Italian food." There are several "Italian cuisines" extant in Italy and in this country, and they are marvelously different from each other. I don't frequent Olive Garden but I have eaten there a few times over the years, and I can't recall having a "bad meal." Was the food I ordered and ate "genuine Italian," whatever that is? Surely not, but it was "Italianate," as they say. We have an immigrant Italian family in the area. They operate two first-class family Italian restaurants, sort of like Louis Restaurant in the Bronx (from Godfather I) but a little fancier. Reggie, as usual, is demonstrating he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the wall. For a guy who never discusses his life, his family, his possessions, et cetera, he certainly has much in the way of criticism of others.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I never order their pasta sauce dish's like spaghetti or ravioli. I figure I can eat Chef-boy-r-di out of a can at home. Not imressive stuff, so I go with the more odd things that you just dont' get anywhere. I know what you mean by REAL italian food. In St. Louis there's an area called "Dago Hill" in the late 1800's it was home to gobs of italian immigrants and that's what the place is called even by the italians. There's several family run resturants there that have been in business for many generations. *When you go into the place and see pictures of the Virgin and Crrcifix's on the walls, with "Mama" and Papa" still speaking in destinctive accents, and the old traditional wine bottles with globs of candle was dripped over them, you know you're in the right spot. OG's be hanged. but I still like eating they're chicken marsala.... What is "real Italian food"? *Being married to a part Italian from the Northern Italians, and having traveled somewhat in Italy, there are different cuisines depending on region. *The Northern / Swiss Italian's are not as much into the heavy red sauces. *And Chippino is a Genovese regional dish. *Which means it also has a lot of Catalan influence. Bill: You know what you are talking about!!!!!!! Having spent the first 29 years of my existance in St.Louis and loving the food in the "Hill" area I know exactly what you are talking about. The best place on the "Hill" in my opinion is *-http://www.cunetto.com/ There are many other notable places, but this is the one I try to get to when I am back visiting. Since leaving St.Louis it has been very hard to find anything that is close. We have found some good places here and there, but nothing comes close to what "The Hill" has to offer. Heck even the local frozen food Italian pizza brands "Lucias" being our favorite beat all the pizza joints I can think of that are not local St.louis places. Whenever we visit we bring a big with cooler and pack it full of pizza's and toasted ravioli. Got restocked thanksgiving - :-) Whats really wierd is that Olive Garden in one of the few places that has Toasted Ravioli, outside of St.louis. - go figure Capt Jack R..- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Jack, next time your in St.L. you owe it to yourself to try http://www.giovannisonthehill.com/ too! I've eaten there several times, and haven't been dissapointed yet. Great meals that wont poke a big hole in your wallet. We used to eat and the Old Spaghetti Factory http://www.osf.com/ on on N. 1st, until until it got to be too franchish-ish. |
Later all Time to go to a NYE gig.
"Jack Redington" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 20, 4:08 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Jan 5, 6:45 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: your statement is correct about a lot of things. Some people think that Taco Casa is a mexican resteraunt! however I do like to go to OliveGardenfor *REAL* Itallian food.... HA! OliveGarden, the McDonald's of Italian.... Yes, but look what's cooking tonight? http://www.olivegarden.com/recipes/r..._detail.asp?re... I suppose that OG decided with all the fakers out there, they thought they'd post their's so you could at least get it right...or wrong. Olive Garden isn't haute cuisine, but it certainly is decent food at a decent price. As someone who was born in and grew up in a city with a huge percentage of recently immigrant Italian families, and as someone who dated "extensively" many lovely Italian girls in my youth, I have a taste for "real Italian food." There are several "Italian cuisines" extant in Italy and in this country, and they are marvelously different from each other. I don't frequent Olive Garden but I have eaten there a few times over the years, and I can't recall having a "bad meal." Was the food I ordered and ate "genuine Italian," whatever that is? Surely not, but it was "Italianate," as they say. We have an immigrant Italian family in the area. They operate two first-class family Italian restaurants, sort of like Louis Restaurant in the Bronx (from Godfather I) but a little fancier. Reggie, as usual, is demonstrating he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the wall. For a guy who never discusses his life, his family, his possessions, et cetera, he certainly has much in the way of criticism of others.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I never order their pasta sauce dish's like spaghetti or ravioli. I figure I can eat Chef-boy-r-di out of a can at home. Not imressive stuff, so I go with the more odd things that you just dont' get anywhere. I know what you mean by REAL italian food. In St. Louis there's an area called "Dago Hill" in the late 1800's it was home to gobs of italian immigrants and that's what the place is called even by the italians. There's several family run resturants there that have been in business for many generations. When you go into the place and see pictures of the Virgin and Crrcifix's on the walls, with "Mama" and Papa" still speaking in destinctive accents, and the old traditional wine bottles with globs of candle was dripped over them, you know you're in the right spot. OG's be hanged. but I still like eating they're chicken marsala.... What is "real Italian food"? Being married to a part Italian from the Northern Italians, and having traveled somewhat in Italy, there are different cuisines depending on region. The Northern / Swiss Italian's are not as much into the heavy red sauces. And Chippino is a Genovese regional dish. Which means it also has a lot of Catalan influence. Bill: You know what you are talking about!!!!!!! Having spent the first 29 years of my existance in St.Louis and loving the food in the "Hill" area I know exactly what you are talking about. The best place on the "Hill" in my opinion is - http://www.cunetto.com/ There are many other notable places, but this is the one I try to get to when I am back visiting. Since leaving St.Louis it has been very hard to find anything that is close. We have found some good places here and there, but nothing comes close to what "The Hill" has to offer. Heck even the local frozen food Italian pizza brands "Lucias" being our favorite beat all the pizza joints I can think of that are not local St.louis places. Whenever we visit we bring a big with cooler and pack it full of pizza's and toasted ravioli. Got restocked thanksgiving - :-) Whats really wierd is that Olive Garden in one of the few places that has Toasted Ravioli, outside of St.louis. - go figure Capt Jack R.. Have to pass that on to my daughter. Her husbands brother lives in S.L. so they have to go there at times. |
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