On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:28:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:


You mean the 'comparably equipped' didn't run you $8-10K more for the
Toyota?

What part about rebates and dropping price because they had too many
trucks on the lot didn't you understand?

Didn't we go through that little discussion here a week or so ago?

Yes we did and based on sticker on comparable 1/2 ton pickups, my
statement stands on it's own.

I'm glad you found something you like. I hope it serves you well.

The one thing I liked about the Tundra was the tow/haul package - very
nice 4:10s with 10 inch ring gear - plus the 381 hp with higher torque
at 3500 rpm. I also like the differential lock out - that's a nice
feature and goes well with the LSD. The rear cab entry is nice and
wide and almost like a full rear seat.

The interior is nice and the seating very comfortable compared to the
others. I'm a big guy - I don't make any apologies for that and most
of the American truck seating is uncomforable after a few miles. This
was very comfortable - the cab has plenty of room. Has power for the
important stuff and heated side mirrors which I like.

On the negative side, I didn't care for the column shift - it looks
stupid and they way they placed the shifter, in Drive it is right in
front of the on-the-fly switch for 4WD - you have to reach around the
shifter to get to it. The driving and lighting controls are placed on
the steering column and I don't care for that. The radio controls are
at full extension of your arm and that sucks. I will be changing the
radio over to a Pioneer anyway so I can use my remote control on that
- at 6'3" I have extremely short arms - I'm a mutant - sue me. :)
I'm not a big fan of orange dash lights either which leads me to
another annoyance - when the lights are on, the radio lights dim to
unreadable levels. I've noticed that on the other trucks too, so it's
not just Toyota that does that. I have no idea why they do that.

I can get used to the interior stuff though - that's not an issue. And
it tows like a 3/4 ton which is important to me anyway.

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:05:05 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:28:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:


You mean the 'comparably equipped' didn't run you $8-10K more for the
Toyota?

What part about rebates and dropping price because they had too many
trucks on the lot didn't you understand?

Didn't we go through that little discussion here a week or so ago?

Yes we did and based on sticker on comparable 1/2 ton pickups, my
statement stands on it's own.

Tom, if you'd waited and looked at any of the American trucks, you'd have
eventually found the same discounts because of too many on the lot, etc.
The Tundra sounds like a good deal. I looked at one the other day, $48K was
the sticker price, for a top of the line crew cab. I miss not having a
pickup, but can't justify the cost when I could easily buy a half ton
trailer to do what the pickup did.

Do the pickups not have radio controls on the steering wheel? The
Highlanders and 4Runners do. I'm trying to train myself to use them, but so
far they get used mostly when I hit the horn.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"John H." wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:05:05 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:28:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:


You mean the 'comparably equipped' didn't run you $8-10K more for the
Toyota?

What part about rebates and dropping price because they had too many
trucks on the lot didn't you understand?

Didn't we go through that little discussion here a week or so ago?

Yes we did and based on sticker on comparable 1/2 ton pickups, my
statement stands on it's own.

Tom, if you'd waited and looked at any of the American trucks, you'd have
eventually found the same discounts because of too many on the lot, etc.


The price doesn't matter if he doesn't like the products. Do you need an
overhead projector and transparencies to understand this?

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:05:05 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:28:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:


You mean the 'comparably equipped' didn't run you $8-10K more for the
Toyota?
What part about rebates and dropping price because they had too many
trucks on the lot didn't you understand?

Didn't we go through that little discussion here a week or so ago?
Yes we did and based on sticker on comparable 1/2 ton pickups, my
statement stands on it's own.
Tom, if you'd waited and looked at any of the American trucks, you'd have
eventually found the same discounts because of too many on the lot, etc.


The price doesn't matter if he doesn't like the products. Do you need an
overhead projector and transparencies to understand this?




A tip of the hat to you, "Joe." You have much more tolerance for reading
the sort of nonsense Herring posts than I do.

I owned a "modern" F150 for a couple of years, and found it to be a
decent truck. I traded it on on a Toyota Tundra and found the latter to
be far superior in every way, including quality of parts, fit, finish,
"ride," handling and much more. I've been toying with the idea of
trading in my 4Runner soon, and a new Tundra is on the short list.

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:21:18 -0500, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:05:05 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:28:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:


You mean the 'comparably equipped' didn't run you $8-10K more for the
Toyota?
What part about rebates and dropping price because they had too many
trucks on the lot didn't you understand?

Didn't we go through that little discussion here a week or so ago?
Yes we did and based on sticker on comparable 1/2 ton pickups, my
statement stands on it's own.
Tom, if you'd waited and looked at any of the American trucks, you'd have
eventually found the same discounts because of too many on the lot, etc.


The price doesn't matter if he doesn't like the products. Do you need an
overhead projector and transparencies to understand this?




A tip of the hat to you, "Joe." You have much more tolerance for reading
the sort of nonsense Herring posts than I do.

I owned a "modern" F150 for a couple of years, and found it to be a
decent truck. I traded it on on a Toyota Tundra and found the latter to
be far superior in every way, including quality of parts, fit, finish,
"ride," handling and much more. I've been toying with the idea of
trading in my 4Runner soon, and a new Tundra is on the short list.

Yeah, Joe. When I posted good comments about Tundras, they were nonsense.
Now Harry is considering one. So there.

Apparently both you guys missed the relevant discussion.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"John H." wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:21:18 -0500, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:05:05 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:28:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:


You mean the 'comparably equipped' didn't run you $8-10K more for the
Toyota?
What part about rebates and dropping price because they had too many
trucks on the lot didn't you understand?

Didn't we go through that little discussion here a week or so ago?
Yes we did and based on sticker on comparable 1/2 ton pickups, my
statement stands on it's own.
Tom, if you'd waited and looked at any of the American trucks, you'd
have
eventually found the same discounts because of too many on the lot,
etc.


The price doesn't matter if he doesn't like the products. Do you need an
overhead projector and transparencies to understand this?




A tip of the hat to you, "Joe." You have much more tolerance for reading
the sort of nonsense Herring posts than I do.

I owned a "modern" F150 for a couple of years, and found it to be a
decent truck. I traded it on on a Toyota Tundra and found the latter to
be far superior in every way, including quality of parts, fit, finish,
"ride," handling and much more. I've been toying with the idea of
trading in my 4Runner soon, and a new Tundra is on the short list.

Yeah, Joe. When I posted good comments about Tundras, they were nonsense.
Now Harry is considering one. So there.

Apparently both you guys missed the relevant discussion.


No. You commented on the price, which didn't matter because he didn't like
the products. So, researching rebates is irrelevant. I can get a hot deal on
certain basses right now at Guitar Center, and there's a one year/no
payments deal, too. But, I don't like the basses they have on sale.

Get it?

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 14:36:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:21:18 -0500, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:05:05 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:28:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:


You mean the 'comparably equipped' didn't run you $8-10K more for the
Toyota?
What part about rebates and dropping price because they had too many
trucks on the lot didn't you understand?

Didn't we go through that little discussion here a week or so ago?
Yes we did and based on sticker on comparable 1/2 ton pickups, my
statement stands on it's own.
Tom, if you'd waited and looked at any of the American trucks, you'd
have
eventually found the same discounts because of too many on the lot,
etc.


The price doesn't matter if he doesn't like the products. Do you need an
overhead projector and transparencies to understand this?




A tip of the hat to you, "Joe." You have much more tolerance for reading
the sort of nonsense Herring posts than I do.

I owned a "modern" F150 for a couple of years, and found it to be a
decent truck. I traded it on on a Toyota Tundra and found the latter to
be far superior in every way, including quality of parts, fit, finish,
"ride," handling and much more. I've been toying with the idea of
trading in my 4Runner soon, and a new Tundra is on the short list.

Yeah, Joe. When I posted good comments about Tundras, they were nonsense.
Now Harry is considering one. So there.

Apparently both you guys missed the relevant discussion.


No. You commented on the price, which didn't matter because he didn't like
the products. So, researching rebates is irrelevant. I can get a hot deal on
certain basses right now at Guitar Center, and there's a one year/no
payments deal, too. But, I don't like the basses they have on sale.

Get it?


And you've no idea what you're talking about.

So, hush.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 14:16:02 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:05:05 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:28:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:


You mean the 'comparably equipped' didn't run you $8-10K more for the
Toyota?

What part about rebates and dropping price because they had too many
trucks on the lot didn't you understand?

Didn't we go through that little discussion here a week or so ago?

Yes we did and based on sticker on comparable 1/2 ton pickups, my
statement stands on it's own.

Tom, if you'd waited and looked at any of the American trucks, you'd have
eventually found the same discounts because of too many on the lot, etc.


The price doesn't matter if he doesn't like the products. Do you need an
overhead projector and transparencies to understand this?


You obviously missed the conversation being referenced here.

So, hush.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."