Is MS losing it? IE 7 almost as bad as Vista
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:59:46 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:36:18 -0000, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:42:35 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


do they still make a version of DOS you can revert to?
No.
Well, you could still you Dr Dos or FreeDos. Or, learn the Linux
shell. ;-)

http://www.drdos.net/

http://www.freedos.org/

I thought about Linux - eh...

I'm stuck in the guyi world unfortunately - that doesn't mean I have
to like it.

I blame Apple.

And Canada. :)

You can run linux via a GUI. And if you want to blame anyone, blame Xerox.

I'll blame anybody I want to blame.

I blame Apple.

And Canada.

Some summer we'll have to get you up here for the royal tour in the Yukon.
You might not want to go back to the US.

Is MS losing it? IE 7 almost as bad as Vista
 

Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:59:46 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:36:18 -0000, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:42:35 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


do they still make a version of DOS you can revert to?
No.
Well, you could still you Dr Dos or FreeDos. Or, learn the Linux
shell. ;-)

http://www.drdos.net/

http://www.freedos.org/
I thought about Linux - eh...

I'm stuck in the guyi world unfortunately - that doesn't mean I have
to like it.

I blame Apple.

And Canada. :)
You can run linux via a GUI. And if you want to blame anyone, blame Xerox.
I'll blame anybody I want to blame.

I blame Apple.

And Canada.

Some summer we'll have to get you up here for the royal tour in the Yukon.
You might not want to go back to the US.




He probably doesn't have papers. He won't be able to go back. :}


--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Is MS losing it? IE 7 almost as bad as Vista
 

On Dec 28, 5:36 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
[email protected] wrote:
Is Internet Explorer 7 matching Windows Vista in the level of
disappointment delivered to end users? Well, such an answer lies
ultimately within you. But at the same time, IE7 has not been submitted
to the same barrage of fire that Vista had to face throughout 2007.
Still, users are failing to take a shine to the latest version of
Microsoft's proprietary browser, and this scenario is a clear indication
that Microsoft is not quite there with IE7. Nowhere is this more evident
than in the evolution of IE7 in terms of market share. The Redmond
company made available Internet Explorer 7 on October 18th, 2006, for
Windows XP SP2 and Windows Server 2003. The browser also ships as a
default component of the Windows Vista operating system.

In November 2007, Microsoft drew the line on IE7's first year on the
market counting in excess of 300 million installations worldwide. Now,
300 million IE7 users are, by no means, a figure that can be dismissed
easily, but it can be interpreted as a failure from the browser. This
because, although it is designed to succeed Internet Explorer 6, one
year after RTM, IE7 is not exactly succeeding IE6... launched
concomitantly with XP SP2, IE6 has deep roots and is still the dominant
browser worldwide.

According to statistics made available by Net Applications, at the end
of November 2007, IE6 still accounted for a share of 40.24% of the
browser market. IE7 is the runner up with 36.84%, followed by Firefox
2.0 with 14.97%. Between October, 2006 and February, 2007, IE7 presented
a consistent growth grabbing a market share of approximately 30%. And
then in the rest nine (!!!) months, IE7 adoption hit a dead wall, and
only grew 7% from 30.07% in March to 36.84% in November. The extended
and repeated Windows genuine Validations associated with the download
process, the evolution of the graphical user interface in comparison
with IE6, and issues such as memory leaks and the lack of standards
support are keeping Internet Explorer users on IE6 rather than
converting them to IE7.

This situation has reduced Microsoft as scrapping the mandatory WGA
mechanism from the downloading of IE7, opening up the browser to all
Windows pirates, and even attempting to bribe users into deploying the
browser via the "Shop With More Confidence Sweepstakes". And even more
relevant for Microsoft is the fact that even with IE7 on the market, it
has continued to lose its grip over the browser market dropping from
over 80% in 2006 to 77.35%, while Firefox grew to an estimated 16.01%.

Reggie, as you know, Harry and JimH know more than all of the IT
engineers, Microsoft programmers, technicians, and most other people.
Even Microsoft admits that, and offers solutions to, Vista's memory
problems. But Harry and JimH say it's a wonderful program!

Is MS losing it? IE 7 almost as bad as Vista
 

On Dec 28, 6:03 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
[email protected] wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" [email protected] wrote in
messagenews:NpudnUgTGeen4OjanZ2dnUVZ_uCinZ2d@comca st.com...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:36:48 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
[email protected] wrote:

And even more relevant for Microsoft is the fact that even with IE7 on
the market, it has continued to lose its grip over the browser market
dropping from over 80% in 2006 to 77.35%, while Firefox grew to an
estimated 16.01%.
I didn't even know what browser version I had - I've got IE 7.

Works for me.
I have IE7, but it keeps freezing up and then shutting down. I think it
has to do with security settings and my anti-virus, there are also some
web sites that just will not open in IE7 or won't allow me to log on, yet
when I use go to Firefox it opens right up.

I think you need to take some Computer 101 classes Reggie.

Being the helpful people they are, MS offers the following advice if IE7
hangs up or freezes.

Release Notes for Internet Explorer 7
These Release Notes give you information about installing Internet
Explorer(R) 7 and contain information about known issues and possible
workarounds for those issues.

Information in this document, including website addresses (URLs) and
other Internet references, is subject to change without notice and is
provided for informational purposes only. Unless otherwise noted, the
example companies, organizations, products, people, and events depicted
herein are fictitious. No association with any real company,
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inferred. Complying with all applicable copyright laws is the
responsibility of the user. Without limiting the rights under copyright,
no part of this document may be reproduced, stored in, or introduced
into a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means
(electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise), or for
any purpose, without the express written permission of Microsoft
Corporation.

Microsoft might have patents, patent applications, trademarks,
copyrights, or other intellectual property rights covering subject
matter in this document. Except as expressly provided in any written
license agreement from Microsoft, the furnishing of this document does
not give you any license to these patents, trademarks, copyrights, or
other intellectual property.

(c)2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Microsoft, MS-DOS, Internet Explorer, Windows, Windows XP, Windows NT,
and Windows Vista are either registered trademarks or trademarks of
Microsoft Corporation in the United States or other countries or regions.

The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein might be the
trademarks of their respective owners.

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Installation Notes
Japanese Installation Prerequisite

You must install the Rights Management Add-on from the RMA Download
Pagebefore you install Internet Explorer 7. The add-on cannot be
installed after Internet Explorer 7.

Installation Errors

If you receive notification that the installation failed, you should
restart your computer to ensure that any changes made during Setup are
undone.

To find information about installation problems, refer to the following
log files:
%windir%\ie7_main.log
%windir%\ie7.log
%windir%\ie7Uninst.log

Note: %windir% is the location of your Windows directory, which can
usually be found at C:\Windows.

If you receive the error "Setup was unable to open the log file for
writing: C:\WINDOWS\ie7_main.log", log in with a user account that has
administrator privileges and then try to install Internet Explorer 7 again.

Updating or Reinstalling Internet Explorer 7

If a previous version of Internet Explorer 7 is already installed,
installing the latest version of Internet Explorer 7 will automatically
remove the previous version. After the previous version is removed,
Setup will automatically restart your computer and then begin installing
the new version.

Uninstalling Internet Explorer 7 RC1

To uninstall Internet Explorer 7 and restore Internet Explorer 6 when
using Windows XP or Windows Server 2003

Click Start, and then click Control Panel.
Click Add or Remove Programs.
Scroll down to Windows Internet Explorer 7, click it, and then click
Change/Remove.
If you cannot find Internet Explorer 7 in Add or Remove Programs, click
Start, click Run, type %windir%\ie7\spuninst\spuninst.exe, and then
press ENTER.

Note: %windir% is the location of your Windows directory, which can
usually be found at C:\Windows. To do this, you need to have "view
hidden folders" enabled.

Uninstalling Internet Explorer 7 Beta 3, Beta 2, Beta 2 Preview, or Beta 1

To uninstall Internet Explorer 7 Beta 3, Beta 2, Beta 2 Preview, or Beta
1 and restore Internet Explorer 6 when using Windows XP or Windows
Server 2003:

Click Start, and then click Control Panel.
Click Add or Remove Programs.
Scroll down to "Internet Explorer 7 Beta 3", "Internet Explorer 7 Beta
2", or "Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 Preview", click it, and then click
Change/Remove.
If you cannot find any version of Internet Explorer 7 in the previous
step, select the Show Updates check box at the top of the Add or Remove
Programs dialog box, scroll down to Windows XP - Software Updates,
select "Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 Preview" or "Internet Explorer 7 Beta
1", and then click Change/Remove.
If you cannot find an Internet Explorer 7 entry using Add or Remove
Programs, try running these commands. Each is for a different release of
Internet Explorer 7, so only one will succeed. To run any of these
commands, you need to have the View hidden folders option enabled. In
the commands below, %windir% is the location of your Windows directory,
which can usually be found at C:\Windows. To run these commands, click
Start, click Run, and then type one of the following:

%windir%\ie7beta3\spuninst\spuninst.exe.
%windir%\$NtUninstallie7beta1$\spuninst\spuninst.e xe.
%windir%\$NtUninstallie7bet2p$\spuninst\spuninst.e xe.
%windir%\$NtUninstallie7b2pmx$\spuninst\spuninst.e xe.
%windir%\$NtUninstallie7beta2$\spuninst\spuninst.e xe.
If the uninstall process causes the computer to stop responding while
removing Internet Explorer 7, restart the computer, delete any custom
sound schemes created after installing the Internet Explorer 7 Beta, and
then try to uninstall Internet Explorer 7 again.

Internet Explorer 7 Fails to Uninstall from Specified User Account

If you see an error message saying that you cannot uninstall Internet
Explorer 7 from this user account, you can bypass the check by following
these steps:

Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then press ENTER.
Navigate to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer.
Right-click the Internet Explorer key, click New, and then click DWORD
value.
Type InstalledByUser as the name, and then press ENTER to finish
creating the new registry value.
Try to uninstall Internet Explorer 7 again.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Late-Breaking Notes and Issues
The following open issues in Internet Explorer 7 might be fixed in
updates of Internet Explorer 7. The information applies to all Microsoft
platforms, unless specified that the content is unique to Windows Vista
or Windows XP SP2.

Application Compatibility Toolkit Beta 5.0 Available--The Application
Compatibility Toolkit Version 5.0 Beta program is available for download
through the Microsoft Connect Program. This toolkit, which runs on
Windows XP SP2, Windows Server 2003 SP1, and Windows Vista, replaces the
Temporary Application Compatibility Toolkit which supported previous
Beta versions of Internet Explorer 7. The Temporary Application Toolkit
is no longer available.

Citrix(c)--The CITRIX ICA Client ActiveX Control does not work when run in
Internet Explorer 7 Protected Mode on Microsoft Windows Vista. The user
will not be able to see the remote desktop in a webpage that is hosting
the control. To work around the issue, the user can right-click the
Internet Explorer icon and select Run as administrator. This allows the
ActiveX control to run.

Hal Screen Reader and Supernova Reader Magnifier by Dolphin--These
screen readers stop responding when users click commands from Internet
Explorer's file menu. These two programs are shipped with an older
version of psapi.dll that causes the program to stop responding in
Internet Explorer 7.

To work around this issue, follow these steps:

Go to the installation location for Dolphin Hal Screen Reader or
Supernova Reader Magnifier.
Find PSAPI.DLL in the installation location for Dolphin Hal Screen
Reader or Supernova Reader Magnifier and rename it to something else,
such as PSAPIOLD.DLL. Do not rename the PSAPI.DLL file in your
\\Windows\System32 directory.
Restart the computer.
The program will find the new PSAPI.DLL in the \Windows\System32
directory and function normally. Users might wish to contact the
software vendor website to check for the latest updates.

Upgrading Internet Explorer 7 from a previous build (not uninstalling
Internet Explorer 7 first) can leave the computer in a confusing state
for users who require Assistive Technology programs--Assistive
technology software that runs on Windows, such as screen reading
software, might not be able to read the screens that appear while
installation is being completed (after your computer restarts) because
those screens are displayed before the assistive technology starts. When
the installation is complete, your computer will restart again.

Starting Internet Explorer without incompatible browser extensions or
malware--If you have incompatible browser extension or add-ons
installed, or have symptoms of spyware or ...

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But the developers (Microsoft) don't know as much about there programs
as Harry and JimH do!

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On Dec 28, 7:53*pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
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On Dec 28, 6:21 pm, "JimH" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

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JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" [email protected] wrote
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Is Internet Explorer 7 matching Windows Vista in the level of
disappointment delivered to end users?
Did your *source* have any reviews of the Chevy Silverado?
Oh joy...the class idiot has promoted himself to computer maven. Glad I
have the troll where he belongs, in the dumpster with the rest of the
crap.
Reggie said he uses FireFox but complains about IE7. He earlier said his
OS
is WinXP but complains about VISTA.

Is there a pattern here?

I dunno' he has mostly pasted other folks experience, fair enough. I
have noticed over the year when folks have insufficient backups to
revert back from a bad package or installation, they tend to get real
testy and look for someone to go off on (blame)... ;)
--------------

Sure he is. *And now we find that he has assumed several aliases here over
the past few days. * Do the handles of JG2U and Stunk ring a bell?

Coincidentally both are new here and instantly started attacking me.

Go figure. *;-)

It's more than "several."

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How many IS several?

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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:59:46 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:36:18 -0000, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:42:35 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


do they still make a version of DOS you can revert to?
No.
Well, you could still you Dr Dos or FreeDos. Or, learn the Linux
shell. ;-)

http://www.drdos.net/

http://www.freedos.org/

I thought about Linux - eh...

I'm stuck in the guyi world unfortunately - that doesn't mean I have
to like it.

I blame Apple.

And Canada. :)

You can run linux via a GUI. And if you want to blame anyone, blame
Xerox.

I'll blame anybody I want to blame.

I blame Apple.

And Canada.

Some summer we'll have to get you up here for the royal tour in the Yukon.
You might not want to go back to the US.


Yukon is not really Canada. Somewhat like Porto Rico is not USA.

Is MS losing it? IE 7 almost as bad as Vista
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:59:46 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:36:18 -0000, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:42:35 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


do they still make a version of DOS you can revert to?
No.
Well, you could still you Dr Dos or FreeDos. Or, learn the Linux
shell. ;-)

http://www.drdos.net/

http://www.freedos.org/

I thought about Linux - eh...

I'm stuck in the guyi world unfortunately - that doesn't mean I have
to like it.

I blame Apple.

And Canada. :)

You can run linux via a GUI. And if you want to blame anyone, blame
Xerox.

I'll blame anybody I want to blame.

I blame Apple.

And Canada.

Some summer we'll have to get you up here for the royal tour in the
Yukon.
You might not want to go back to the US.


Yukon is not really Canada. Somewhat like Porto Rico is not USA.

Are you California Deamin' again?
Of course the Yukon is part of Canada... it just happens to be a territory
rather than a full province.
Anyway, I was referring to this Yukon.....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...nsenumbers.jpg

Is MS losing it? IE 7 almost as bad as Vista
 

JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" [email protected] wrote in
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JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" [email protected] wrote in
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:36:48 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
[email protected] wrote:

And even more relevant for Microsoft is the fact that even with IE7 on
the market, it has continued to lose its grip over the browser market
dropping from over 80% in 2006 to 77.35%, while Firefox grew to an
estimated 16.01%.
I didn't even know what browser version I had - I've got IE 7.

Works for me.
I have IE7, but it keeps freezing up and then shutting down. I think it
has to do with security settings and my anti-virus, there are also some
web sites that just will not open in IE7 or won't allow me to log on,
yet when I use go to Firefox it opens right up.

I think you need to take some Computer 101 classes Reggie.
Being the helpful people they are, MS offers the following advice if IE7
hangs up or freezes.

So switch back to IE6 or FF if you do not know how to use IE7 properly.

Like the old joke............a guy visits a doctor complaining that his arm
hurts when he bends it. The doctor looks at him and says.........so don't
bend it anymore.

You are clueless.

Is MS losing it? IE 7 almost as bad as Vista
 

Don White wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:49:24 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
[email protected] wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" [email protected] wrote
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Is Internet Explorer 7 matching Windows Vista in the level of
disappointment delivered to end users?
Did your *source* have any reviews of the Chevy Silverado?


No, why do you ask?
He needs something to pull the 32' Grady White he's going to buy.
Your memory is failing you old man......but why am I not surprised. I
will be looking at those in the 23 foot range once my son can take
possession of our runabout.

Did you and Reggie take some classes on how to mimic Abbot and Costello?

Abbot & Costello were too talented for those two.
We know who Smithers is but John seems to mimic this clown...
http://www.thesimpsons.com/bios/bios...ple_krusty.htm



You are really into cartoons. That explains the retarded maturity level
of your son.

Is MS losing it? IE 7 almost as bad as Vista
 

"Dan" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:49:24 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
[email protected] wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" [email protected] wrote
in
message ...
Is Internet Explorer 7 matching Windows Vista in the level of
disappointment delivered to end users?
Did your *source* have any reviews of the Chevy Silverado?


No, why do you ask?
He needs something to pull the 32' Grady White he's going to buy.
Your memory is failing you old man......but why am I not surprised. I
will be looking at those in the 23 foot range once my son can take
possession of our runabout.

Did you and Reggie take some classes on how to mimic Abbot and Costello?

Abbot & Costello were too talented for those two.
We know who Smithers is but John seems to mimic this clown...
http://www.thesimpsons.com/bios/bios...ple_krusty.htm

You are really into cartoons. That explains the retarded maturity level
of your son.


You really are a jackass.. aren't you?