"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:06:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
major failure in 20 thousand miles.

No, I'm not buying a Toyota so don't even suggest it.

Who me?

Frankly I think you'd like it after you got one. Just my 2 cents
worth.


But then, there'd be nothing to talk about.

In an obtuse way, this reminds me of:

Q: How many old women does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Oh, don't worry about me. I'll just sit here in the dark.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:06:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
major failure in 20 thousand miles.

No, I'm not buying a Toyota so don't even suggest it.

Who me?

Frankly I think you'd like it after you got one. Just my 2 cents
worth.


I'd consider one. In fact, I have. I just don't care for the styling.

Eisboch

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 03:23:37 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:06:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
major failure in 20 thousand miles.

No, I'm not buying a Toyota so don't even suggest it.

Who me?

Frankly I think you'd like it after you got one. Just my 2 cents
worth.


I'd consider one. In fact, I have. I just don't care for the styling.

Eisboch


To me, long term reliability and durability are a lot more important
than styling unless the appearance is truly butt ugly. Styles come
and go but I like to buy vehicles that will still be around and
running well in ten years, kind of like a Grand Banks trawler. :-)

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 03:23:37 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:06:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
major failure in 20 thousand miles.

No, I'm not buying a Toyota so don't even suggest it.

Who me?

Frankly I think you'd like it after you got one. Just my 2 cents
worth.


I'd consider one. In fact, I have. I just don't care for the styling.

Eisboch


To me, long term reliability and durability are a lot more important
than styling unless the appearance is truly butt ugly. Styles come
and go but I like to buy vehicles that will still be around and
running well in ten years, kind of like a Grand Banks trawler. :-)


True enough. I'll look at them again next the next time I get the itch for
a new truck.

Hey ... are the exterior rails on the GBs teak or mahogany? Gene asked
about finishing teak and I wasn't sure what the wood was. I wonder because
the ones on Mrs.E's GB were refinished 3 years ago using a varnish that
still reveals the wood grain rather than Cetal that hides it and they have
held up very well. If they are teak, whatever the marina guys used is good
stuff and sticks to the oily teak.

Eisboch

After 30 years of ford trucks I still like them. They tend to have
more issues in the first year but then run forever. My dad bought one
new and the rear motor mounts were faulty... at 1000 miles the engine
tilted into the radiator and caused all kinds of damage...sold that one
at 325,000 miles and the next owner drove it for years.

I got my wife a new Expedition in 98 and she hated the 3rd seat
arrangement so I got her a Toyota Sequoia in 02 and I took the
expedition. The Sequoia has been in the shop at LEAST quarterly for
stupid little things including: Rear window motor (They told us we
didn't use it enough... needs to go up and down at least weekly..), the
indicator light for DRIVE (light bulb-no warranty for that), 3 times for
the engine light going on....something about a loose gas cap or a
faulty gas cap sensor.. huh???), several fit and finish issues, etc etc)

My 98 Expedition has had OIL and now a new transmission 10 years later
(Hmmm... am I writing this on rec.boats?... wonder why I need a new
transmission after only 10 years....)

I know Toyotas have a good rep for quality but in my extremely small
sample size I am not convinced.



Eisboch wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 03:23:37 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:06:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
major failure in 20 thousand miles.

No, I'm not buying a Toyota so don't even suggest it.

Who me?

Frankly I think you'd like it after you got one. Just my 2 cents
worth.


I'd consider one. In fact, I have. I just don't care for the styling.

Eisboch


To me, long term reliability and durability are a lot more important
than styling unless the appearance is truly butt ugly. Styles come
and go but I like to buy vehicles that will still be around and
running well in ten years, kind of like a Grand Banks trawler. :-)



True enough. I'll look at them again next the next time I get the itch for
a new truck.

Hey ... are the exterior rails on the GBs teak or mahogany? Gene asked
about finishing teak and I wasn't sure what the wood was. I wonder because
the ones on Mrs.E's GB were refinished 3 years ago using a varnish that
still reveals the wood grain rather than Cetal that hides it and they have
held up very well. If they are teak, whatever the marina guys used is good
stuff and sticks to the oily teak.

Eisboch

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 06:50:29 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Hey ... are the exterior rails on the GBs teak or mahogany?

They are teak. Our boats were built in Singpore and teak was actually
less expensive than mahogany.

On Dec 27, 7:06*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
had my brand new F-150 Lariat Special Edition towed back from
Greenville RI to the dealer in Webster, MA because...

The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.

Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
under the hood. *Brand new engine to boot.

In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. *This is the sixth
major failure in 20 thousand miles.

No, I'm not buying a Toyota so don't even suggest it.

I am looking at GMC though.

Dude, I have gotten pretty good with our new Tom Tom.. You are aware
that it lags a little right. I mean, when it says "turn right now" you
are not really to the turn yet. You knew that, right?

Glad everyones all right. Talk to you later...

wrote:
On Dec 27, 7:06 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
had my brand new F-150 Lariat Special Edition towed back from
Greenville RI to the dealer in Webster, MA because...

The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.

Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
under the hood. Brand new engine to boot.

In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
major failure in 20 thousand miles.

No, I'm not buying a Toyota so don't even suggest it.

I am looking at GMC though.

Dude, I have gotten pretty good with our new Tom Tom.. You are aware
that it lags a little right. I mean, when it says "turn right now" you
are not really to the turn yet. You knew that, right?

Glad everyones all right. Talk to you later...


You guys really need these devices to find your way around town?

On Dec 28, 9:06*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 27, 7:06 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
had my brand new F-150 Lariat Special Edition towed back from
Greenville RI to the dealer in Webster, MA because...

The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.

Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
under the hood. *Brand new engine to boot.

In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. *This is the sixth
major failure in 20 thousand miles.

No, I'm not buying a Toyota so don't even suggest it.

I am looking at GMC though.

Dude, I have gotten pretty good with our new Tom Tom.. You are aware
that it lags a little right. I mean, when it says "turn right now" you
are not really to the turn yet. You knew that, right?

Glad everyones all right. Talk to you later...

You guys really need these devices to find your way around town?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My wife drives a lot at night and is newer to the area... I don't
think the money was wasted.

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:06:26 -0500, HK wrote:


You guys really need these devices to find your way around town?

No, but when you are not around town. But then again, a good road atlas
has done me well for years.