I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

Man I wish this wouldn't have happened. I was upstairs in my
warehouse, and was moving around some "stuff" when I bumped into a
heavy, but empty 55 gallon metal drum, and sure enough it came right
down on my Marquis cuddy. This isn't any ordinary drum, it's one
that meets Int'l shipping standards, so the guage is much thicker so
it's heavier, and even though it didn't fall very far approx 5 ft,
well.....no damage done to the boat, but the nice aluminum rail that
wraps around the bow has a nice big dent in it and one of the mounts
is broken. Anybody know where I can get a reasonable repair for it? or
should I just take the whole thing off and not worry about it that is,
seeing it's purely cosmetic . it looks to me like it's probably one
piece of pipe that was custom bent with the hardware slid onto it in
the appropriate places to be mounted, and looks to me like a real
hassle to repair it, rather than see about getting a new one formed,
then again, that might be a bigger hassle yet. It looked cool, but
otherwise had no function. I think as i write this I'm thinking on
just doing away with it and replacing the hardware with rope cleats.
But anyhow, the boat is a '77 and Marquis has changed so many hands, I
doubt if ordering one from Marquis is even in the picture. does
anybody know where I might find one? If not... off it comes.

THANKS!

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

On Dec 26, 12:30�pm, Tim wrote:
Man I wish this wouldn't have happened. I was upstairs in my
warehouse, and was moving around some "stuff" when I bumped into a
heavy, but empty 55 gallon metal drum, and sure enough it came right
down on �my Marquis cuddy. �This isn't any ordinary drum, it's one
that meets Int'l shipping standards, so the guage is much thicker so
it's heavier, �and even though it didn't fall very far approx 5 ft,
well.....no damage done to the boat, but the nice aluminum rail that
wraps around the bow has a nice big dent in it and one of the mounts
is broken. Anybody know where I can get a reasonable repair for it? or
should I just take the whole thing off and not worry about it that is,
seeing it's purely cosmetic . it looks to me like it's probably one
piece of pipe that was custom bent with the hardware slid onto it in
the appropriate places to be mounted, and looks to me like a real
hassle to repair it, rather than see about getting a new one formed,
then again, that might be a bigger hassle yet. It looked cool, but
otherwise had no function. I think as i write this I'm thinking on
just doing away with it and replacing the hardware with rope cleats.
But anyhow, the boat is a '77 and Marquis has changed so many hands, I
doubt if ordering one from Marquis is even in the picture. does
anybody know where I might find one? If not... off it comes.

THANKS!

You can have a replacement rail fabricated at any $hop where they weld
$tainle$$ $teel. If it truly has no function, and on a 1977 cuddy
cabin- you could easily justify not spending the money to replace it.

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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On Dec 26, 12:30?pm, Tim wrote:

and even though it didn't fall very far approx 5 ft,
well.....no damage done to the boat, but the nice aluminum rail that
wraps around the bow has a nice big dent in it and one of the mounts
is broken. Anybody know where I can get a reasonable repair for it?


You can have a replacement rail fabricated at any $hop where they weld
$tainle$$ $teel. If it truly has no function, and on a 1977 cuddy
cabin- you could easily justify not spending the money to replace it.


A shop that has expertise in welding stainless is not necessary experienced
in welding aluminum.

Eisboch (who spent hours trying to weld aluminum to steel while the welders
laughed their butts off)

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

On Dec 26, 4:07*pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:30:41 -0800 (PST), Tim penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:





Man I wish this wouldn't have happened. I was upstairs in my
warehouse, and was moving around some "stuff" when I bumped into a
heavy, but empty 55 gallon metal drum, and sure enough it came right
down on *my Marquis cuddy. *This isn't any ordinary drum, it's one
that meets Int'l shipping standards, so the guage is much thicker so
it's heavier, *and even though it didn't fall very far approx 5 ft,
well.....no damage done to the boat, but the nice aluminum rail that
wraps around the bow has a nice big dent in it and one of the mounts
is broken. Anybody know where I can get a reasonable repair for it? or
should I just take the whole thing off and not worry about it that is,
seeing it's purely cosmetic . it looks to me like it's probably one
piece of pipe that was custom bent with the hardware slid onto it in
the appropriate places to be mounted, and looks to me like a real
hassle to repair it, rather than see about getting a new one formed,
then again, that might be a bigger hassle yet. It looked cool, but
otherwise had no function. I think as i write this I'm thinking on
just doing away with it and replacing the hardware with rope cleats.
But anyhow, the boat is a '77 and Marquis has changed so many hands, I
doubt if ordering one from Marquis is even in the picture. does
anybody know where I might find one? If not... off it comes.

THANKS!

Sounds to me like West Marine....http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...l.asp?page=554

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"....If you're replacing a bend in your tube, it is recommended you
take your broken tube along with the new tube and fittings to a local
Marine Bimini Top Professional, Electrician or Plumber. They have the
bending equipment to ensure the right bend for you. Bends must be made
with the fittings in place. ..."

Now that's an idea! I know a couple really quality plumbers, I'll see
when they have a local job and ask them to survey the situation.

Thanks, Gene.

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:00:26 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


Now that's an idea! I know a couple really quality plumbers, I'll see
when they have a local job and ask them to survey the situation.

It is a good idea.

Most plumbers have 3/4" mandrels which I assume is what your bow rail
is made of.

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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On Dec 26, 12:30?pm, Tim wrote:

and even though it didn't fall very far approx 5 ft,
well.....no damage done to the boat, but the nice aluminum rail that
wraps around the bow has a nice big dent in it and one of the mounts
is broken. Anybody know where I can get a reasonable repair for it?


You can have a replacement rail fabricated at any $hop where they weld
$tainle$$ $teel. If it truly has no function, and on a 1977 cuddy
cabin- you could easily justify not spending the money to replace it.


A shop that has expertise in welding stainless is not necessary
experienced in welding aluminum.

Eisboch (who spent hours trying to weld aluminum to steel while the
welders laughed their butts off)




You can combine them. Both Kaiser Industries did it with Military tanks and
a couple of the cookwares now attach aluminum to stainless.

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

"CalifBill" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...

On Dec 26, 12:30?pm, Tim wrote:

and even though it didn't fall very far approx 5 ft,
well.....no damage done to the boat, but the nice aluminum rail that
wraps around the bow has a nice big dent in it and one of the mounts
is broken. Anybody know where I can get a reasonable repair for it?


You can have a replacement rail fabricated at any $hop where they weld
$tainle$$ $teel. If it truly has no function, and on a 1977 cuddy
cabin- you could easily justify not spending the money to replace it.


A shop that has expertise in welding stainless is not necessary
experienced in welding aluminum.

Eisboch (who spent hours trying to weld aluminum to steel while the
welders laughed their butts off)




You can combine them. Both Kaiser Industries did it with Military tanks
and a couple of the cookwares now attach aluminum to stainless.


Yep. But not by welding.

Eisboch

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

On Dec 26, 6:10*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


Most plumbers have 3/4" mandrels which I assume is what your bow rail
is made of.

I'm not really sure, Tom, i would say it's 3/4. problem is this would
probably be usless tot ry to straighten, and there arn't any real
angles in it, just one long sweeping curve. Looks to me like it would
be really tough to match the other side. Thats the real hit.

NO! the REAL hit, is that I bent it in the first place!

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

Unfortunately, you need to go someplace that specializes in tube-tower
building. They have machines that are designed just for making these long
sweeping curves (as opposed to a bend). The machine is actually very
simple... 3 wheels, two on the same plane and motorized, and the third in
between those two (an idler), that can be adjusted up and down. They run the
tube thru, and in each pass lower the idler slightly, and the tube bends.
They keep doing it until you get the exact sweep you need.

If you want it perfect again, there's no real easy solution... or cheap. If
you can't bring them the boat, then take the whole rail off, and they can
match the good side with the "bad".

--Mike



"Tim" wrote in message
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On Dec 26, 6:10 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


Most plumbers have 3/4" mandrels which I assume is what your bow rail
is made of.

I'm not really sure, Tom, i would say it's 3/4. problem is this would
probably be usless tot ry to straighten, and there arn't any real
angles in it, just one long sweeping curve. Looks to me like it would
be really tough to match the other side. Thats the real hit.

NO! the REAL hit, is that I bent it in the first place!

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

On Dec 26, 10:55*pm, "Mike" wrote:
Unfortunately, you need to go someplace that specializes in tube-tower
building. They have machines that are designed just for making these long
sweeping curves (as opposed to a bend). The machine is actually very
simple... 3 wheels, two on the same plane and motorized, and the third in
between those two (an idler), that can be adjusted up and down. They run the
tube thru, and in each pass lower the idler slightly, and the tube bends.
They keep doing it until you get the exact sweep you need.

If you want it perfect again, there's no real easy solution... or cheap. If
you can't bring them the boat, then take the whole rail off, and they can
match the good side with the "bad".

--Mike

Mike, I'm familiar with the process, but don't know of anybody locally
that does such. i think I'll call a couple of the local boat shops
tomorrow and see what they'd recomend. I'm sure they've been up
against this before. I'll probably end up removing it though. I'll see
what they would suggest.