I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

Man I wish this wouldn't have happened. I was upstairs in my
warehouse, and was moving around some "stuff" when I bumped into a
heavy, but empty 55 gallon metal drum, and sure enough it came right
down on my Marquis cuddy. This isn't any ordinary drum, it's one
that meets Int'l shipping standards, so the guage is much thicker so
it's heavier, and even though it didn't fall very far approx 5 ft,
well.....no damage done to the boat, but the nice aluminum rail that
wraps around the bow has a nice big dent in it and one of the mounts
is broken. Anybody know where I can get a reasonable repair for it? or
should I just take the whole thing off and not worry about it that is,
seeing it's purely cosmetic . it looks to me like it's probably one
piece of pipe that was custom bent with the hardware slid onto it in
the appropriate places to be mounted, and looks to me like a real
hassle to repair it, rather than see about getting a new one formed,
then again, that might be a bigger hassle yet. It looked cool, but
otherwise had no function. I think as i write this I'm thinking on
just doing away with it and replacing the hardware with rope cleats.
But anyhow, the boat is a '77 and Marquis has changed so many hands, I
doubt if ordering one from Marquis is even in the picture. does
anybody know where I might find one? If not... off it comes.

THANKS!

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

On Dec 26, 12:30�pm, Tim wrote:
Man I wish this wouldn't have happened. I was upstairs in my
warehouse, and was moving around some "stuff" when I bumped into a
heavy, but empty 55 gallon metal drum, and sure enough it came right
down on �my Marquis cuddy. �This isn't any ordinary drum, it's one
that meets Int'l shipping standards, so the guage is much thicker so
it's heavier, �and even though it didn't fall very far approx 5 ft,
well.....no damage done to the boat, but the nice aluminum rail that
wraps around the bow has a nice big dent in it and one of the mounts
is broken. Anybody know where I can get a reasonable repair for it? or
should I just take the whole thing off and not worry about it that is,
seeing it's purely cosmetic . it looks to me like it's probably one
piece of pipe that was custom bent with the hardware slid onto it in
the appropriate places to be mounted, and looks to me like a real
hassle to repair it, rather than see about getting a new one formed,
then again, that might be a bigger hassle yet. It looked cool, but
otherwise had no function. I think as i write this I'm thinking on
just doing away with it and replacing the hardware with rope cleats.
But anyhow, the boat is a '77 and Marquis has changed so many hands, I
doubt if ordering one from Marquis is even in the picture. does
anybody know where I might find one? If not... off it comes.

THANKS!

You can have a replacement rail fabricated at any $hop where they weld
$tainle$$ $teel. If it truly has no function, and on a 1977 cuddy
cabin- you could easily justify not spending the money to replace it.

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...

On Dec 26, 12:30?pm, Tim wrote:

and even though it didn't fall very far approx 5 ft,
well.....no damage done to the boat, but the nice aluminum rail that
wraps around the bow has a nice big dent in it and one of the mounts
is broken. Anybody know where I can get a reasonable repair for it?


You can have a replacement rail fabricated at any $hop where they weld
$tainle$$ $teel. If it truly has no function, and on a 1977 cuddy
cabin- you could easily justify not spending the money to replace it.


A shop that has expertise in welding stainless is not necessary experienced
in welding aluminum.

Eisboch (who spent hours trying to weld aluminum to steel while the welders
laughed their butts off)

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

On Dec 26, 4:07*pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:30:41 -0800 (PST), Tim penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:





Man I wish this wouldn't have happened. I was upstairs in my
warehouse, and was moving around some "stuff" when I bumped into a
heavy, but empty 55 gallon metal drum, and sure enough it came right
down on *my Marquis cuddy. *This isn't any ordinary drum, it's one
that meets Int'l shipping standards, so the guage is much thicker so
it's heavier, *and even though it didn't fall very far approx 5 ft,
well.....no damage done to the boat, but the nice aluminum rail that
wraps around the bow has a nice big dent in it and one of the mounts
is broken. Anybody know where I can get a reasonable repair for it? or
should I just take the whole thing off and not worry about it that is,
seeing it's purely cosmetic . it looks to me like it's probably one
piece of pipe that was custom bent with the hardware slid onto it in
the appropriate places to be mounted, and looks to me like a real
hassle to repair it, rather than see about getting a new one formed,
then again, that might be a bigger hassle yet. It looked cool, but
otherwise had no function. I think as i write this I'm thinking on
just doing away with it and replacing the hardware with rope cleats.
But anyhow, the boat is a '77 and Marquis has changed so many hands, I
doubt if ordering one from Marquis is even in the picture. does
anybody know where I might find one? If not... off it comes.

THANKS!

Sounds to me like West Marine....http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...l.asp?page=554

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"....If you're replacing a bend in your tube, it is recommended you
take your broken tube along with the new tube and fittings to a local
Marine Bimini Top Professional, Electrician or Plumber. They have the
bending equipment to ensure the right bend for you. Bends must be made
with the fittings in place. ..."

Now that's an idea! I know a couple really quality plumbers, I'll see
when they have a local job and ask them to survey the situation.

Thanks, Gene.

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:00:26 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


Now that's an idea! I know a couple really quality plumbers, I'll see
when they have a local job and ask them to survey the situation.

It is a good idea.

Most plumbers have 3/4" mandrels which I assume is what your bow rail
is made of.

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...

On Dec 26, 12:30?pm, Tim wrote:

and even though it didn't fall very far approx 5 ft,
well.....no damage done to the boat, but the nice aluminum rail that
wraps around the bow has a nice big dent in it and one of the mounts
is broken. Anybody know where I can get a reasonable repair for it?


You can have a replacement rail fabricated at any $hop where they weld
$tainle$$ $teel. If it truly has no function, and on a 1977 cuddy
cabin- you could easily justify not spending the money to replace it.


A shop that has expertise in welding stainless is not necessary
experienced in welding aluminum.

Eisboch (who spent hours trying to weld aluminum to steel while the
welders laughed their butts off)




You can combine them. Both Kaiser Industries did it with Military tanks and
a couple of the cookwares now attach aluminum to stainless.

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

"CalifBill" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...

On Dec 26, 12:30?pm, Tim wrote:

and even though it didn't fall very far approx 5 ft,
well.....no damage done to the boat, but the nice aluminum rail that
wraps around the bow has a nice big dent in it and one of the mounts
is broken. Anybody know where I can get a reasonable repair for it?


You can have a replacement rail fabricated at any $hop where they weld
$tainle$$ $teel. If it truly has no function, and on a 1977 cuddy
cabin- you could easily justify not spending the money to replace it.


A shop that has expertise in welding stainless is not necessary
experienced in welding aluminum.

Eisboch (who spent hours trying to weld aluminum to steel while the
welders laughed their butts off)




You can combine them. Both Kaiser Industries did it with Military tanks
and a couple of the cookwares now attach aluminum to stainless.


Yep. But not by welding.

Eisboch

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

On Dec 26, 6:10*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


Most plumbers have 3/4" mandrels which I assume is what your bow rail
is made of.

I'm not really sure, Tom, i would say it's 3/4. problem is this would
probably be usless tot ry to straighten, and there arn't any real
angles in it, just one long sweeping curve. Looks to me like it would
be really tough to match the other side. Thats the real hit.

NO! the REAL hit, is that I bent it in the first place!

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

Unfortunately, you need to go someplace that specializes in tube-tower
building. They have machines that are designed just for making these long
sweeping curves (as opposed to a bend). The machine is actually very
simple... 3 wheels, two on the same plane and motorized, and the third in
between those two (an idler), that can be adjusted up and down. They run the
tube thru, and in each pass lower the idler slightly, and the tube bends.
They keep doing it until you get the exact sweep you need.

If you want it perfect again, there's no real easy solution... or cheap. If
you can't bring them the boat, then take the whole rail off, and they can
match the good side with the "bad".

--Mike



"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 26, 6:10 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


Most plumbers have 3/4" mandrels which I assume is what your bow rail
is made of.

I'm not really sure, Tom, i would say it's 3/4. problem is this would
probably be usless tot ry to straighten, and there arn't any real
angles in it, just one long sweeping curve. Looks to me like it would
be really tough to match the other side. Thats the real hit.

NO! the REAL hit, is that I bent it in the first place!

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

On Dec 26, 10:55*pm, "Mike" wrote:
Unfortunately, you need to go someplace that specializes in tube-tower
building. They have machines that are designed just for making these long
sweeping curves (as opposed to a bend). The machine is actually very
simple... 3 wheels, two on the same plane and motorized, and the third in
between those two (an idler), that can be adjusted up and down. They run the
tube thru, and in each pass lower the idler slightly, and the tube bends.
They keep doing it until you get the exact sweep you need.

If you want it perfect again, there's no real easy solution... or cheap. If
you can't bring them the boat, then take the whole rail off, and they can
match the good side with the "bad".

--Mike

Mike, I'm familiar with the process, but don't know of anybody locally
that does such. i think I'll call a couple of the local boat shops
tomorrow and see what they'd recomend. I'm sure they've been up
against this before. I'll probably end up removing it though. I'll see
what they would suggest.

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:41:58 -0500, Eisboch penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


"CalifBill" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...

On Dec 26, 12:30?pm, Tim wrote:

and even though it didn't fall very far approx 5 ft,
well.....no damage done to the boat, but the nice aluminum rail that
wraps around the bow has a nice big dent in it and one of the mounts
is broken. Anybody know where I can get a reasonable repair for it?


You can have a replacement rail fabricated at any $hop where they weld
$tainle$$ $teel. If it truly has no function, and on a 1977 cuddy
cabin- you could easily justify not spending the money to replace it.


A shop that has expertise in welding stainless is not necessary
experienced in welding aluminum.

Eisboch (who spent hours trying to weld aluminum to steel while the
welders laughed their butts off)




You can combine them. Both Kaiser Industries did it with Military tanks
and a couple of the cookwares now attach aluminum to stainless.


Yep. But not by welding.

Eisboch


Some purveyors of cookware tout this, but I suspect it is either a
braze or a "mechanical weld" as done in forge welding.... not a true
fusion weld.

However, Al and SS *can* be welded in some circumstances, but it *is*
a bitch....
http://www.welding-advisers.com/PRAC...etterNo26.html

Some shipbuilding is done with Aluminum/Steel welds, but, again, it is
not a fusion weld.....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
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I would guess a spin (friction) weld on the cookware.

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"CalifBill" wrote in message
...




I would guess a spin (friction) weld on the cookware.


I think so ... a "cladding" process.

I know of several specialty products that bond normally incompatible
materials but the process is unique and certainly not welding.

One thing I enjoyed about the technology I was involved in was some of the
weird materials and alloys that could be produced in high vacuum deposition
systems. A process known as "sputtering" involves knocking off molecules
of a source material with energetic ions formed in a plasma and depositing
them onto an object or substrate to be coated.
Using two or more different "sources" at the same time allowed the
co-deposition of completely incompatible materials resulting in a really
strange alloy.

The original "Silverstone" cookware was produced in this manner.

Eisboch

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

On Dec 26, 2:48�pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

...

On Dec 26, 12:30?pm, Tim wrote:

and even though it didn't fall very far approx 5 ft,

well.....no damage done to the boat, but the nice aluminum rail that
wraps around the bow has a nice big dent in it and one of the mounts
is broken. Anybody know where I can get a reasonable repair for it?

You can have a replacement rail fabricated at any $hop where they weld
$tainle$$ $teel. If it truly has no function, and on a 1977 cuddy
cabin- you could easily justify not spending the money to replace it.

A shop that has expertise in welding stainless is not necessary experienced
in welding aluminum.

Eisboch �(who spent hours trying to weld aluminum to steel while the welders
laughed their butts off)

I would suggest rebuilding the whole works with stainless.

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:18:17 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Dec 26, 10:55*pm, "Mike" wrote:
Unfortunately, you need to go someplace that specializes in tube-tower
building. They have machines that are designed just for making these long
sweeping curves (as opposed to a bend). The machine is actually very
simple... 3 wheels, two on the same plane and motorized, and the third in
between those two (an idler), that can be adjusted up and down. They run the
tube thru, and in each pass lower the idler slightly, and the tube bends.
They keep doing it until you get the exact sweep you need.

If you want it perfect again, there's no real easy solution... or cheap. If
you can't bring them the boat, then take the whole rail off, and they can
match the good side with the "bad".

--Mike

Mike, I'm familiar with the process, but don't know of anybody locally
that does such. i think I'll call a couple of the local boat shops
tomorrow and see what they'd recomend. I'm sure they've been up
against this before. I'll probably end up removing it though. I'll see
what they would suggest.

Tim, have you checked your insurance coverage? This thing may be covered by
one policy or another, especially if there is some kind of accident
coverage for the shop.

I was about to suggest calling local marinas. When my bow rail got bent,
the marina had a name and phone number for folks who did the work. The
marina fixed it, with a fork lift, but it wasn't bent badly. It was not
creased at all.

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:20:34 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 26, 6:10*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


Most plumbers have 3/4" mandrels which I assume is what your bow rail
is made of.

I'm not really sure, Tom, i would say it's 3/4. problem is this would
probably be usless tot ry to straighten, and there arn't any real
angles in it, just one long sweeping curve. Looks to me like it would
be really tough to match the other side. Thats the real hit.

NO! the REAL hit, is that I bent it in the first place!

Well, in that case - it sounds like a great excuse to get a new boat.

As in NEW boat. :)

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...


I would suggest rebuilding the whole works with stainless.

Me too, for a bow rail.

Many of the complex "tuna tower" contraptions on sportfish type boats are
made of hard anodized marine grade (I forget the series) aluminum to save
weight. Some are very nicely done.

Eisboch

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Well, in that case - it sounds like a great excuse to get a new boat.

As in NEW boat. :)

Yessir Tom.

If I had your money I would :

1) have a NEW boat.

and

2) I sure wouldn't be living in the southern part of B.F. Illinois!

LOL!

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

Tim wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Well, in that case - it sounds like a great excuse to get a new boat.

As in NEW boat. :)

Yessir Tom.

If I had your money I would :

1) have a NEW boat.

and

2) I sure wouldn't be living in the southern part of B.F. Illinois!

LOL!


It could be worse. You could be living in Indiana.

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

HK wrote:
Tim wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Well, in that case - it sounds like a great excuse to get a new boat.

As in NEW boat. :)

Yessir Tom.

If I had your money I would :

1) have a NEW boat.

and

2) I sure wouldn't be living in the southern part of B.F. Illinois!

LOL!


It could be worse. You could be living in Indiana.

Actually Harry I used to live in Indiana, and I'm presently just 50
mi. from Indiana. and honestly? Indiana is starting to look pretty
good......

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

Tim wrote:

HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Well, in that case - it sounds like a great excuse to get a new boat.

As in NEW boat. :)
Yessir Tom.

If I had your money I would :

1) have a NEW boat.

and

2) I sure wouldn't be living in the southern part of B.F. Illinois!

LOL!

It could be worse. You could be living in Indiana.

Actually Harry I used to live in Indiana, and I'm presently just 50
mi. from Indiana. and honestly? Indiana is starting to look pretty
good......


Are you down near Cape Girardeau. MO? I used to spend some long weekends
there.

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

No, in ways I wish I was. I'm about a quarter ways up the state. by
the Wabash river..

HK wrote:
Tim wrote:

HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Well, in that case - it sounds like a great excuse to get a new boat.

As in NEW boat. :)
Yessir Tom.

If I had your money I would :

1) have a NEW boat.

and

2) I sure wouldn't be living in the southern part of B.F. Illinois!

LOL!

It could be worse. You could be living in Indiana.

Actually Harry I used to live in Indiana, and I'm presently just 50
mi. from Indiana. and honestly? Indiana is starting to look pretty
good......


Are you down near Cape Girardeau. MO? I used to spend some long weekends
there.

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"CalifBill" wrote in message
...




I would guess a spin (friction) weld on the cookware.


I think so ... a "cladding" process.

I know of several specialty products that bond normally incompatible
materials but the process is unique and certainly not welding.

One thing I enjoyed about the technology I was involved in was some of the
weird materials and alloys that could be produced in high vacuum
deposition systems. A process known as "sputtering" involves knocking
off molecules of a source material with energetic ions formed in a plasma
and depositing them onto an object or substrate to be coated.
Using two or more different "sources" at the same time allowed the
co-deposition of completely incompatible materials resulting in a really
strange alloy.

The original "Silverstone" cookware was produced in this manner.

Eisboch


Did not know that about the Silverstone. We used sputtering for coating the
disks in disk drives.

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:59:43 -0800, CalifBill penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:41:58 -0500, Eisboch penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


"CalifBill" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...

On Dec 26, 12:30?pm, Tim wrote:

and even though it didn't fall very far approx 5 ft,
well.....no damage done to the boat, but the nice aluminum rail that
wraps around the bow has a nice big dent in it and one of the mounts
is broken. Anybody know where I can get a reasonable repair for it?


You can have a replacement rail fabricated at any $hop where they
weld
$tainle$$ $teel. If it truly has no function, and on a 1977 cuddy
cabin- you could easily justify not spending the money to replace it.


A shop that has expertise in welding stainless is not necessary
experienced in welding aluminum.

Eisboch (who spent hours trying to weld aluminum to steel while the
welders laughed their butts off)




You can combine them. Both Kaiser Industries did it with Military
tanks
and a couple of the cookwares now attach aluminum to stainless.


Yep. But not by welding.

Eisboch


Some purveyors of cookware tout this, but I suspect it is either a
braze or a "mechanical weld" as done in forge welding.... not a true
fusion weld.

However, Al and SS *can* be welded in some circumstances, but it *is*
a bitch....
http://www.welding-advisers.com/PRAC...etterNo26.html

Some shipbuilding is done with Aluminum/Steel welds, but, again, it is
not a fusion weld.....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
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I would guess a spin (friction) weld on the cookware.


Problem with that scenario is that the aluminum has a melting point of
1220F and Stainless Steel about 2800F and the two molecular structures
don't play well together....

--

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But Stainless galls easily, and the aluminum may melt into the voids created
in the stainless, making for a strong bond.

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...



Did not know that about the Silverstone. We used sputtering for coating
the disks in disk drives.


The original disk drives were not vacuum deposited and the magnetic
orientation was horizontal, limiting the capacity of the disk. Sputtering
allowed columnar growth and the magnetic material had a vertical
orientation, a major breakthrough in terms of disk capacity.

We built several large in-line sputter deposition systems for hard disks for
Seagate and others. We also built a few CD coating systems. They were
amazing. They processed a raw CD blank in less than 2 seconds, depositing
about 600 Angstroms of aluminum (just short of becoming opaque).

Other companies blew us away though, doing the aluminum deposition, data
imaging, protective overcoat and applying the label in less time.

Eisboch

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...



Did not know that about the Silverstone. We used sputtering for coating
the disks in disk drives.


The original disk drives were not vacuum deposited and the magnetic
orientation was horizontal, limiting the capacity of the disk. Sputtering
allowed columnar growth and the magnetic material had a vertical
orientation, a major breakthrough in terms of disk capacity.

We built several large in-line sputter deposition systems for hard disks
for Seagate and others. We also built a few CD coating systems. They
were amazing. They processed a raw CD blank in less than 2 seconds,
depositing about 600 Angstroms of aluminum (just short of becoming
opaque).

Other companies blew us away though, doing the aluminum deposition, data
imaging, protective overcoat and applying the label in less time.

Eisboch


Probably biggest improvement in disk drive capacity from the sputtering was
a much more uniform coating and less defects. Since a lot of my disk drive
design time was doing flaw scan software, I notice a lot of improvement in
that alone. Other item I notice about CD's is everybody protects the clear
side and does not worry about the coated side. But the coated side is much
more critical to data integrity.

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 12:12:42 -0500, HK wrote:

Tim wrote:

HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Well, in that case - it sounds like a great excuse to get a new boat.

As in NEW boat. :)
Yessir Tom.

If I had your money I would :

1) have a NEW boat.

and

2) I sure wouldn't be living in the southern part of B.F. Illinois!

LOL!

It could be worse. You could be living in Indiana.

Actually Harry I used to live in Indiana, and I'm presently just 50
mi. from Indiana. and honestly? Indiana is starting to look pretty
good......

Are you down near Cape Girardeau. MO? I used to spend some long weekends
there.

Krause and Limbaugh sitting in a tree...

K I S S.....

Er...

That's something too horrible to comtemplate. :)

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 12:12:42 -0500, HK wrote:

Tim wrote:
HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Well, in that case - it sounds like a great excuse to get a new boat.

As in NEW boat. :)
Yessir Tom.

If I had your money I would :

1) have a NEW boat.

and

2) I sure wouldn't be living in the southern part of B.F. Illinois!

LOL!
It could be worse. You could be living in Indiana.
Actually Harry I used to live in Indiana, and I'm presently just 50
mi. from Indiana. and honestly? Indiana is starting to look pretty
good......
Are you down near Cape Girardeau. MO? I used to spend some long weekends
there.

Krause and Limbaugh sitting in a tree...

K I S S.....

Er...

That's something too horrible to comtemplate. :)


Nah. I had a girlfriend in Cape Girardeau who was working at the paper
there while I was working at the KC Star. Rush spent time in KC, too. We
never met.


I tell you, that drive across Missouri was a long one. If the gal wasn't
a gorgeous redhead, I wouldn't have bothered!

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:47:03 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

You can have a replacement rail fabricated at any $hop where they weld
$tainle$$ $teel. If it truly has no function, and on a 1977 cuddy
cabin- you could easily justify not spending the money to replace it.

A shop that has expertise in welding stainless is not necessary experienced
in welding aluminum.

Eisboch ?(who spent hours trying to weld aluminum to steel while the welders
laughed their butts off)

I would suggest rebuilding the whole works with stainless.

There is an outfit called Tops In Quality:

http://topsinquality.com/power/railbow.htm

I bought a bow pulpit from them many years ago and it was priced
reasonably compared to custom local fabrication.

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

On Dec 27, 9:43*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:47:03 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould

wrote:
You can have a replacement rail fabricated at any $hop where they weld
$tainle$$ $teel. If it truly has no function, and on a 1977 cuddy
cabin- you could easily justify not spending the money to replace it.

A shop that has expertise in welding stainless is not necessary experienced
in welding aluminum.

Eisboch ?(who spent hours trying to weld aluminum to steel while the welders
laughed their butts off)

I would suggest rebuilding the whole works with stainless.

There is an outfit called Tops In Quality:

http://topsinquality.com/power/railbow.htm

I bought a bow pulpit from them many years ago and it was priced
reasonably compared to custom local fabrication.

Thanks for the link, Wayne. I'll take that into consideration as well..

I busted my bow railing... *ugh*!
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 27, 9:43 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:47:03 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould

wrote:
You can have a replacement rail fabricated at any $hop where they weld
$tainle$$ $teel. If it truly has no function, and on a 1977 cuddy
cabin- you could easily justify not spending the money to replace it.

A shop that has expertise in welding stainless is not necessary
experienced
in welding aluminum.

Eisboch ?(who spent hours trying to weld aluminum to steel while the
welders
laughed their butts off)

I would suggest rebuilding the whole works with stainless.

There is an outfit called Tops In Quality:

http://topsinquality.com/power/railbow.htm

I bought a bow pulpit from them many years ago and it was priced
reasonably compared to custom local fabrication.

Thanks for the link, Wayne. I'll take that into consideration as well..

The tube rollers will straighten some kinks and bends. At least it did it
with some 1/4" stainless rod.