On Dec 22, 2:08*pm, Mike Romain wrote:
donquijote1954 wrote:
Oh, this site has all deep cycle chargers. I like the third one
because it's cheaper...

http://www.batterymart.com/c-deep-cy...-chargers.html

http://www.batterymart.com/p-cliplig...y-charger.html

I looked at them.

*From experience I know that the AGM or spiral batteries are 'very'
picky about being overcharged. *They will still vent hydrogen like a
normal battery on hard charge, but just don't have that much to vent so
they 'boil' dry easy.

For this reason I personally would go for one with an AGM 'switch'. *I
think it would be worth it.

The second one also has the AGM sensing technology and it's waterproof.
* Sometimes the fancy stuff like the 1st isn't always the 'best' stuff.

The 3rd or 'cliplite' only says it is for conventional lead acid
batteries....

If you will be charging at home or from a power grid, input voltage
sensing isn't needed like some have for running off inverters or generators.

Mike

My mistake. I went for the low price instead of the features.

Thank you, I'll go for the first one. And I'd probably go with the
bigger battery in AGM, just in case. Thank you again!

Hey, guys, what you think about this one... it's cheap and cute...

http://westcobattery.com/chargers.html

On Dec 24, 5:00*pm, donquijote1954
wrote:
Hey, guys, what you think about this one... it's cheap and cute...

http://westcobattery.com/chargers.html

OK, I think I got it. The small battery I had in mind was rated at
32Ah, which is the rated capacity of this charger. What I can do is
get two AGM small batteries (West Marine, on sale $96). Better weight
distribution in the canoe and more flexibility.

donquijote1954 wrote:
On Dec 24, 5:00 pm, donquijote1954
wrote:
Hey, guys, what you think about this one... it's cheap and cute...

http://westcobattery.com/chargers.html

OK, I think I got it. The small battery I had in mind was rated at
32Ah, which is the rated capacity of this charger. What I can do is
get two AGM small batteries (West Marine, on sale $96). Better weight
distribution in the canoe and more flexibility.

I would try to find out the power draw from those motors before spending
money.

The 'old' school Minn Kota motors (pre 85) would last an 8 hour day
fishing when pushing a freighter canoe with 5 people or a row boat with
3 or 4 people on one car sized battery.

The new motors are supposed to be much better for battery life also.

If you motor only draws say 2 amps on medium speed which is almost water
skiing speed in a canoe, the battery should last about 15 hours.

The motors I had needed a sea anchor to keep them slow enough for
trolling weed patches. We used a bucket on a rope.

Mike

On Dec 25, 3:45*pm, Mike Romain wrote:
donquijote1954 wrote:
On Dec 24, 5:00 pm, donquijote1954
wrote:
Hey, guys, what you think about this one... it's cheap and cute...

http://westcobattery.com/chargers.html

OK, I think I got it. The small battery I had in mind was rated at
32Ah, which is the rated capacity of this charger. What I can do is
get two AGM small batteries (West Marine, on sale $96). Better weight
distribution in the canoe and more flexibility.

I would try to find out the power draw from those motors before spending
money.

The 'old' school Minn Kota motors (pre 85) would last an 8 hour day
fishing when pushing a freighter canoe with 5 people or a row boat with
3 or 4 people on one car sized battery.

The new motors are supposed to be much better for battery life also.

If you motor only draws say 2 amps on medium speed which is almost water
skiing speed in a canoe, the battery should last about 15 hours.

The motors I had needed a sea anchor to keep them slow enough for
trolling weed patches. *We used a bucket on a rope.

Mike

Good idea. Can you believe that I wrote to Minn Tonka asking their
motor's draw and they didn't even reply?

I guess I should be able to tell when I get it.

Jeeeeez, yet another expense for the motor...

http://www.trollingmotorparts.com/in...c/MKR%2D19.htm

I guess I need it, huh?

donquijote1954 wrote:
Jeeeeez, yet another expense for the motor...

http://www.trollingmotorparts.com/in...c/MKR%2D19.htm

I guess I need it, huh?

Well....

Sorry to tell ya, but if you can't figure out that the red wire goes to
the positive and the black one to the negative, you might want to think
twice about going near any motors... ;-)

The only situation I could think of needing that is a reverse hookup.
The small windings and wires in the motors will burn out long before the
power cables will melt.

The old Minn Kota motors used a power on light bulb as a fuse. Have a
short and it would pop fast. It takes a 'lot' of hours to wear the
motors out. I used them 7 days a week for 8 to 12 hours a day all
fishing season when I ran a guiding outfit. Had a bunch of them out
every day. I was rebuilding the brushes every two or three years with
the odd commutator replacement, but never had a short out failure in the
8 years I was doing it.

Mike

On Dec 27, 5:50*pm, Mike Romain wrote:
donquijote1954 wrote:
Jeeeeez, yet another expense for the motor...

http://www.trollingmotorparts.com/in....cfm/CFID/4903...

I guess I need it, huh?

Well....

Sorry to tell ya, but if you can't figure out that the red wire goes to
the positive and the black one to the negative, you might want to think
twice about going near any motors... *;-)

The only situation I could think of needing that is a reverse hookup.
The small windings and wires in the motors will burn out long before the
power cables will melt.

The old Minn Kota motors used a power on light bulb as a fuse. *Have a
short and it would pop fast. *It takes a 'lot' of hours to wear the
motors out. *I used them 7 days a week for 8 to 12 hours a day all
fishing season when I ran a guiding outfit. *Had a bunch of them out
every day. *I was rebuilding the brushes every two or three years with
the odd commutator replacement, but never had a short out failure in the
8 years I was doing it.

Mike

I've never seen a trolling motor work in real life (nor its
connections and cables), but it seems pretty straight forward.

And unless it's dark, I don't see any problem with the color coding.

Hey, guys, a couple more questions...

According to this ad, AGM don't need special charger...

"MK AGM Batteries requires no special battery charger as do GEL CELL
batteries. If uncertain if the battery charger you currently using
will properly charge an AGM battery please consult us before using the
charger. Typically RV and Marine charging systems require no
modification when using MK AGM Batteries."

http://www.batterystuff.com/batterie...agm/8AU1H.html

And this charger seems mighty good --and cheap...

http://www.amazon.com/Schumacher-SSC...s_auto_title_1

donquijote1954 wrote:
Hey, guys, a couple more questions...

According to this ad, AGM don't need special charger...

"MK AGM Batteries requires no special battery charger as do GEL CELL
batteries. If uncertain if the battery charger you currently using
will properly charge an AGM battery please consult us before using the
charger. Typically RV and Marine charging systems require no
modification when using MK AGM Batteries."

http://www.batterystuff.com/batterie...agm/8AU1H.html

And this charger seems mighty good --and cheap...

http://www.amazon.com/Schumacher-SSC...s_auto_title_1

I just 'love' that doublespeak! LOL!

As far as the charger goes, it shows on it a setting and light for the
AGM battery so it's right.

Did you find out the motor's draw yet?

Mike