On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:52:49 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:40:26 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:05:15 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

My 2004 Chevy 2500 is more refined than my S-I-L's Tundra. Rides nicer
also.

Maybe but the Tundra will last a lot longer and have more resale
value.

Which is the result of costing $10,000 more than a similarly equipped
Ford, Chevy or Dodge.

Since mine is a diesel, the resale may hold up better. Lots of the resale
is the past history of Toyota longevity. Toyota's are a well built
vehicle. Handle bad, but they will last a long time. Toyota is not a car
company, they are a manufacturing company, and they understand how to
build something for longevity, but most of that comes from not changing
things much. You can swap the engine in a Toyota Pickup mechanically
(mounts, etc) probably in a 15 year+ range. But as Tom said. They are
overpriced. My 2004 crew cab diesel pickup lists for $45,000. My
daughters 2006 Sequoia costs more.

Many of the older Toyota seen around these parts (northeast) suffer from
severe rusting, particularly in the bed, side walls and wheel cutouts. I
don't know how the newer models hold up.

You still see many more older Ford and Chevy/GMC trucks on the road than you
see older Toyotas, if that means anything.

I look at it this way - until that Camray was produced, Toyota didn't
have much of a reputation for "quality".

My oldest's Camray slipped on some ice as I was following him to a
friend's house to deliver a half cord of wood - he just kissed, and I
mean as in no paint left on the guard rail he hit and he couldn't have
been going more than 5 mph - $4K worth of damage iincluding a bent
wheel which needed replacement.

They may be quality, but they are still being made cheap.