On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:12:54 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Why, you think they'll go down more? What if the lake level starts
coming back up?!

Lake Schmake - it ain't the lake level - it's gas and mortgage prices.

Despite Chuck's opinon, which I respect, folks ain't gonna be able to
afford gas unless your in a position were it truly can't hurt you if
you spend $200 a tank for a weekend. Chuck's view is skewed by the
fact that he doesn't have to spend money getting his boat to the water
- he's in a whole different strata than those of us who trailer boat
or use gas engines.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:12:54 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Why, you think they'll go down more? What if the lake level starts
coming back up?!

Lake Schmake - it ain't the lake level - it's gas and mortgage prices.

Despite Chuck's opinon, which I respect, folks ain't gonna be able to
afford gas unless your in a position were it truly can't hurt you if
you spend $200 a tank for a weekend. Chuck's view is skewed by the
fact that he doesn't have to spend money getting his boat to the water
- he's in a whole different strata than those of us who trailer boat
or use gas engines.


I just got a "heads up" from the boat broker. He says the buyer of the
Navigator is going to request that he be given free use of my slip for the
rest of the winter.

I am going to negotiate that. I'll say, "Sure, if you will reimburse me for
the 550 gallons of diesel fuel on board".

Eisboch

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:58:22 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:12:54 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Why, you think they'll go down more? What if the lake level starts
coming back up?!

Lake Schmake - it ain't the lake level - it's gas and mortgage prices.

Despite Chuck's opinon, which I respect, folks ain't gonna be able to
afford gas unless your in a position were it truly can't hurt you if
you spend $200 a tank for a weekend. Chuck's view is skewed by the
fact that he doesn't have to spend money getting his boat to the water
- he's in a whole different strata than those of us who trailer boat
or use gas engines.

I just got a "heads up" from the boat broker. He says the buyer of the
Navigator is going to request that he be given free use of my slip for the
rest of the winter.

Oh oh - fly in the ointment.

I am going to negotiate that. I'll say, "Sure, if you will reimburse me for
the 550 gallons of diesel fuel on board".

Is your slip worth $2,300 (using the last diesel price I saw at a
marina) for the winter?

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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Is your slip worth $2,300 (using the last diesel price I saw at a
marina) for the winter?

The winter "wet" storage fee for the slip is about $1,400 .

We "own" the slip from April 1st to November 1st, but still have to pay for
it's use during the off-season if we elect wet storage.

If the Nav sells, we will keep the slip and just lease it out. Seasonal
rental for that slip is $9,845.00. If I lease it privately I can negotiate
the price and all proceeds go to us. If I elect to have Kingman lease it,
(which I would do), they take a 15% commission with the balance sent to us.

BTW, $1,400 isn't bad for storage of a 52 foot boat around here.

Eisboch

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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Oh oh - fly in the ointment.



This is the biggest concern I have about trying to sell a larger boat.
Slips are not all that available and it's an issue that many buyers think of
last.

This potential buyer is from the Annapolis area. I don't know what slip
availability is down there. I know that in our neck of the woods, finding a
slip for a 52 foot boat isn't easy.

Eisboch

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:33:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

This potential buyer is from the Annapolis area. I don't know what slip
availability is down there. I know that in our neck of the woods, finding a
slip for a 52 foot boat isn't easy.

Annapolis is very tight, and this is not the ideal time of year to be
making a delivery run down the Jersey shore.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:33:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

This potential buyer is from the Annapolis area. I don't know what slip
availability is down there. I know that in our neck of the woods, finding
a
slip for a 52 foot boat isn't easy.

Annapolis is very tight, and this is not the ideal time of year to be
making a delivery run down the Jersey shore.


He wants to leave it here at Kingman for the winter and take it to Annapolis
in the spring.
Just got word, they are coming up next Wednesday (Dec 19th) for the survey
and short sea trial.

Eisboch

On Dec 11, 2:48 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:12:54 -0800 (PST), wrote:
Why, you think they'll go down more? What if the lake level starts
coming back up?!

Lake Schmake - it ain't the lake level - it's gas and mortgage prices.

Despite Chuck's opinon, which I respect, folks ain't gonna be able to
afford gas unless your in a position were it truly can't hurt you if
you spend $200 a tank for a weekend. Chuck's view is skewed by the
fact that he doesn't have to spend money getting his boat to the water
- he's in a whole different strata than those of us who trailer boat
or use gas engines.

That's true. It does take alot to get the boat splashed these days.
And when I moved here, it was a nice, country-ish type of drive to get
to Lanier. Then they built a HUGE freakin mall right in the way. I
remember still driving on the old road, thinking, what to hell are
they building a mall way out here for? Well, I guess someone knew that
if you build it, they will come:

http://www.simon.com/mall/default.aspx?ID=208

It's nice to drive towing a boat through that hell!

E
I just got a "heads up" from the boat broker. He says the buyer of
the
Navigator is going to request that he be given free use of my slip for
the
rest of the winter.
E


'Nother heads up" Marinas usually require a contract review, or
signing when owners change. Proof of liability insurance, and to be
named on the policy. Hope your buyer brings vaseline. Unless you own
the slip, This looks as if it could get messy. Could lose the slip.
Write a separate contract stating that with 30 days notice it will be
returned to you. Notarize, and file at county records. Just MHO Stay
sharp!
Den

"den" wrote in message
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E
I just got a "heads up" from the boat broker. He says the buyer of
the
Navigator is going to request that he be given free use of my slip for
the
rest of the winter.
E


'Nother heads up" Marinas usually require a contract review, or
signing when owners change. Proof of liability insurance, and to be
named on the policy. Hope your buyer brings vaseline. Unless you own
the slip, This looks as if it could get messy. Could lose the slip.
Write a separate contract stating that with 30 days notice it will be
returned to you. Notarize, and file at county records. Just MHO Stay
sharp!
Den



We own the slip. It's winter storage use only.

Eisbch