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http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=204700436

I love the comments at the end of the article:

1 What the article misses is the real reason that piracy is down
50% from Windows XP levels, which is that NOBODY WANTS VISTA..
How ironic that by writing code that nobody wants, they have less
people stealing it. Perhaps they should concentrate on development
in other areas....

I'm pretty sure the "Yugo" automobile had a pretty low theft rate as
well...


2 I moved to Linux when 30 gig was not enough to run Windows XP.
What took 26 gig within Windows now takes less than 4. I am 100%
MS free and loving every minute of it.

Vista "turns" off kill switch
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=204700436

I love the comments at the end of the article:

1 What the article misses is the real reason that piracy is down 50% from
Windows XP levels, which is that NOBODY WANTS VISTA.. How ironic that by
writing code that nobody wants, they have less people stealing it. Perhaps
they should concentrate on development in other areas....

I'm pretty sure the "Yugo" automobile had a pretty low theft rate as
well...


2 I moved to Linux when 30 gig was not enough to run Windows XP. What
took 26 gig within Windows now takes less than 4. I am 100% MS free and
loving every minute of it.




30 gig wasn't enough??? One of my machines is running XP Pro, Office 2000
Pro and plenty of other software with a 20gb HD. It's extremely fast and
trouble free.

If 30 gb wasn't enough for you, there must have been other issues with the
machine.

Vista "turns" off kill switch
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=204700436

I love the comments at the end of the article:

1 What the article misses is the real reason that piracy is down
50% from Windows XP levels, which is that NOBODY WANTS
VISTA.. How ironic that by writing code that nobody wants,
they have less people stealing it. Perhaps they should
concentrate on development in other areas....

I'm pretty sure the "Yugo" automobile had a pretty low theft rate as
well...


2 I moved to Linux when 30 gig was not enough to run Windows XP.
What took 26 gig within Windows now takes less than 4. I am 100%
MS free and loving every minute of it.




What I love is your comments on any computer OS, when it is obviously
apparent you know nothing about any of them.

Vista "turns" off kill switch
 

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=204700436

I love the comments at the end of the article:

1 What the article misses is the real reason that piracy is down
50% from Windows XP levels, which is that NOBODY WANTS
VISTA.. How ironic that by writing code that nobody wants,
they have less people stealing it. Perhaps they should
concentrate on development in other areas....

I'm pretty sure the "Yugo" automobile had a pretty low theft rate as
well...


2 I moved to Linux when 30 gig was not enough to run Windows XP.
What took 26 gig within Windows now takes less than 4. I am
100% MS free and loving every minute of it.




What I love is your comments on any computer OS, when it is obviously
apparent you know nothing about any of them.


OK.

Vista "turns" off kill switch
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=204700436


I love the comments at the end of the article:

1 What the article misses is the real reason that piracy is down
50% from Windows XP levels, which is that NOBODY WANTS
VISTA.. How ironic that by writing code that nobody
wants, they have less people stealing it. Perhaps they
should concentrate on development in other areas....

I'm pretty sure the "Yugo" automobile had a pretty low theft rate as
well...


2 I moved to Linux when 30 gig was not enough to run Windows XP.
What took 26 gig within Windows now takes less than 4. I am
100% MS free and loving every minute of it.




What I love is your comments on any computer OS, when it is obviously
apparent you know nothing about any of them.


OK.

PS - I knew enough to stay with Windows XP. ;)

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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=204700436

I love the comments at the end of the article:

1 What the article misses is the real reason that piracy is down
50% from Windows XP levels, which is that NOBODY WANTS
VISTA.. How ironic that by writing code that nobody wants,
they have less people stealing it. Perhaps they should
concentrate on development in other areas....

I'm pretty sure the "Yugo" automobile had a pretty low theft rate as
well...


2 I moved to Linux when 30 gig was not enough to run Windows XP.
What took 26 gig within Windows now takes less than 4. I am
100% MS free and loving every minute of it.




What I love is your comments on any computer OS, when it is obviously
apparent you know nothing about any of them.


Harry you are a laugh a minute. Are you going to claim that you are a
systems programmer and you have specific and exact knowledge about
operating system design, implementation and maintenance?

Even though I have been in the computer field for 25 years working in
operating system maintenance and applications design, implementation and
maintenance I would never claim to know all of the intricacies of
operating systems.

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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
:

2 I moved to Linux when 30 gig was not enough to run Windows
XP.
What took 26 gig within Windows now takes less than
4. I am
100% MS free and loving every minute of it.




I have 47 programs, and their supporting libraries installed on
my Nokia N800 Maemo Linux internet tablet, including the Garnet
Palm OS virtual machine (3.9M) and its Palm OS programs. They
all occupy 25.6MB leaving 68MB of free internal memory for more.
This doesn't count anything on the two 8GB SD cards I installed.

Maemo Linux (Debian) memory usage is tiny!


Larry
--
Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
you're downloads threaten their networks......
.....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=204700436


I love the comments at the end of the article:

1 What the article misses is the real reason that piracy is down
50% from Windows XP levels, which is that NOBODY WANTS
VISTA.. How ironic that by writing code that nobody
wants, they have less people stealing it. Perhaps they
should concentrate on development in other areas....

I'm pretty sure the "Yugo" automobile had a pretty low theft rate as
well...


2 I moved to Linux when 30 gig was not enough to run Windows XP.
What took 26 gig within Windows now takes less than 4. I am
100% MS free and loving every minute of it.




What I love is your comments on any computer OS, when it is obviously
apparent you know nothing about any of them.


OK.

PS - I knew enough to stay with Windows XP. ;)



More probably, you don't know enough to change from one OS to another.

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BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=204700436


I love the comments at the end of the article:

1 What the article misses is the real reason that piracy is down
50% from Windows XP levels, which is that NOBODY WANTS
VISTA.. How ironic that by writing code that nobody
wants, they have less people stealing it. Perhaps they
should concentrate on development in other areas....

I'm pretty sure the "Yugo" automobile had a pretty low theft rate as
well...


2 I moved to Linux when 30 gig was not enough to run Windows XP.
What took 26 gig within Windows now takes less than 4. I am
100% MS free and loving every minute of it.




What I love is your comments on any computer OS, when it is obviously
apparent you know nothing about any of them.


Harry you are a laugh a minute. Are you going to claim that you are a
systems programmer and you have specific and exact knowledge about
operating system design, implementation and maintenance?

Even though I have been in the computer field for 25 years working in
operating system maintenance and applications design, implementation and
maintenance I would never claim to know all of the intricacies of
operating systems.






Well, Bertie, I never did say I knew "all the intricacies of an OS," did I?

You should enroll in Montgomery County College and take a course in
reading for content.

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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=204700436


I love the comments at the end of the article:

1 What the article misses is the real reason that piracy is down
50% from Windows XP levels, which is that NOBODY WANTS
VISTA.. How ironic that by writing code that nobody
wants, they have less people stealing it. Perhaps they
should concentrate on development in other areas....

I'm pretty sure the "Yugo" automobile had a pretty low theft rate
as well...


2 I moved to Linux when 30 gig was not enough to run Windows XP.
What took 26 gig within Windows now takes less than 4. I am
100% MS free and loving every minute of it.




What I love is your comments on any computer OS, when it is
obviously apparent you know nothing about any of them.


OK.

PS - I knew enough to stay with Windows XP. ;)



More probably, you don't know enough to change from one OS to another.

LOL, no it is very easy to do, but if I was going to update a computer,
I would do a clean install, which can be a pain, just saving all the
files i want to keep.

Vista "turns" off kill switch
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=204700436


I love the comments at the end of the article:

1 What the article misses is the real reason that piracy is down
50% from Windows XP levels, which is that NOBODY WANTS
VISTA.. How ironic that by writing code that nobody
wants, they have less people stealing it. Perhaps they
should concentrate on development in other areas....

I'm pretty sure the "Yugo" automobile had a pretty low theft rate
as well...


2 I moved to Linux when 30 gig was not enough to run Windows XP.
What took 26 gig within Windows now takes less than 4. I
am 100% MS free and loving every minute of it.




What I love is your comments on any computer OS, when it is
obviously apparent you know nothing about any of them.


OK.

PS - I knew enough to stay with Windows XP. ;)



More probably, you don't know enough to change from one OS to another.

LOL, no it is very easy to do, but if I was going to update a computer,
I would do a clean install, which can be a pain, just saving all the
files i want to keep.


Sometimes it is easy to do, and sometimes it isn't. Hopefully, when and
if you do an upgrade to whatever, it all blows up in your face. Have a
nice day.

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HK wrote:


Sometimes it is easy to do, and sometimes it isn't. Hopefully, when and
if you do an upgrade to whatever, it all blows up in your face. Have a
nice day.

thank you for your warm words of support

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:


Sometimes it is easy to do, and sometimes it isn't. Hopefully, when
and if you do an upgrade to whatever, it all blows up in your face.
Have a nice day.

thank you for your warm words of support


You are entirely welcome.

Vista "turns" off kill switch
 

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=204700436


I love the comments at the end of the article:

1 What the article misses is the real reason that piracy is down
50% from Windows XP levels, which is that NOBODY WANTS
VISTA.. How ironic that by writing code that nobody
wants, they have less people stealing it. Perhaps they
should concentrate on development in other areas....

I'm pretty sure the "Yugo" automobile had a pretty low theft rate
as well...


2 I moved to Linux when 30 gig was not enough to run Windows XP.
What took 26 gig within Windows now takes less than 4. I am
100% MS free and loving every minute of it.




What I love is your comments on any computer OS, when it is
obviously apparent you know nothing about any of them.


OK.

PS - I knew enough to stay with Windows XP. ;)



More probably, you don't know enough to change from one OS to another.

That was dumb.

Vista "turns" off kill switch
 

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=204700436


I love the comments at the end of the article:

1 What the article misses is the real reason that piracy is down
50% from Windows XP levels, which is that NOBODY
WANTS VISTA.. How ironic that by writing code that
nobody wants, they have less people stealing it. Perhaps
they should concentrate on development in other
areas....

I'm pretty sure the "Yugo" automobile had a pretty low theft rate
as well...


2 I moved to Linux when 30 gig was not enough to run Windows
XP. What took 26 gig within Windows now takes less than
4. I am 100% MS free and loving every minute of it.




What I love is your comments on any computer OS, when it is
obviously apparent you know nothing about any of them.


OK.

PS - I knew enough to stay with Windows XP. ;)



More probably, you don't know enough to change from one OS to another.

LOL, no it is very easy to do, but if I was going to update a
computer, I would do a clean install, which can be a pain, just saving
all the files i want to keep.


Sometimes it is easy to do, and sometimes it isn't. Hopefully, when and
if you do an upgrade to whatever, it all blows up in your face. Have a
nice day.

That was childish.

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I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. I was a Vista beta tester, and
when it was over, I was back to XP. They invited me for the SP1 beta, and I
said no thanks.

We recently replaced an aging machine at my office, and of course it came
with vista. After about a month of it falling off the network, which by the
way froze the computer if it was accessing a network share, as well as other
less critical, but annoying problems, I douched it and put on XP Pro. Not a
problem since.

Maybe SP1 will help, but I've already heard very good things about SP3 for
XP... hmmm.

--Mike

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=204700436

I love the comments at the end of the article:

1 What the article misses is the real reason that piracy is down 50% from
Windows XP levels, which is that NOBODY WANTS VISTA.. How ironic that by
writing code that nobody wants, they have less people stealing it. Perhaps
they should concentrate on development in other areas....

I'm pretty sure the "Yugo" automobile had a pretty low theft rate as
well...


2 I moved to Linux when 30 gig was not enough to run Windows XP. What
took 26 gig within Windows now takes less than 4. I am 100% MS free and
loving every minute of it.

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"Mike" wrote in message
...
I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. I was a Vista beta tester, and
when it was over, I was back to XP. They invited me for the SP1 beta, and I
said no thanks.

We recently replaced an aging machine at my office, and of course it came
with vista. After about a month of it falling off the network, which by
the way froze the computer if it was accessing a network share, as well as
other less critical, but annoying problems, I douched it and put on XP
Pro. Not a problem since.

Maybe SP1 will help, but I've already heard very good things about SP3 for
XP... hmmm.

Instead of downgrading to XP, you could have upgraded to a penguin, Unbuntu
or Fedora. No kill switch, no DRM, no back doors and no Bill watching you.

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OK.

"Canuck57" wrote in message
news:FiL5j.1996$iU.751@pd7urf2no...

"Mike" wrote in message
...
I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. I was a Vista beta tester, and
when it was over, I was back to XP. They invited me for the SP1 beta, and
I said no thanks.

We recently replaced an aging machine at my office, and of course it came
with vista. After about a month of it falling off the network, which by
the way froze the computer if it was accessing a network share, as well
as other less critical, but annoying problems, I douched it and put on XP
Pro. Not a problem since.

Maybe SP1 will help, but I've already heard very good things about SP3
for XP... hmmm.

Instead of downgrading to XP, you could have upgraded to a penguin,
Unbuntu or Fedora. No kill switch, no DRM, no back doors and no Bill
watching you.

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"Mike" wrote in message
...

I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. I was a Vista beta tester, and
when it was over, I was back to XP. They invited me for the SP1 beta, and I
said no thanks.


I've been reading the various comments regarding Vista versus XP (while
mentally filtering some of the personal BS expressed by some) and have
reached the conclusion that I'll stick with XP for as long as I can. Our
household has a total of 4 computers, including three laptops (one used on
the boat) and a regular tower type. All have either XP Pro or Home
editions. My wife used to have issues with her two computers until we
finally disabled Norton in them (at the advice of a computer guru). No
problems since. I had one spyware infection on my home laptop a while back
and SpyDoctor cured it.

Thinking back, it seems like MS either hits a homerun or strikes out with
their new operating systems. Since I am not a heavy computer user, Windows
3.1 did me fine until it simply would not operate on the Internet anymore
..... sometime in the mid 90's. To me, it was pretty much trouble-free.
Then there was Win 95 that I used until the current computers were purchased
with XP installed. Meanwhile, it seems like there were a bunch of
strike-outs by Microsoft.... Win 98 Win 2000, Millennium, and another that
I can't remember. You don't hear many good things about them. My hunch is
that XP will fall in the ranks of 3.1 and Win 95. Based on what I've read,
Vista seems to already have two strikes on it. Since I am a user of a
computer, not a troubleshooter or software detangler, I'd rather keep what
has proved to work reliably until it is simply obsolete.

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Mike" wrote in message
...

I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. I was a Vista beta tester, and
when it was over, I was back to XP. They invited me for the SP1 beta, and
I said no thanks.




One other "observation". I stopped using Internet Explorer and use only
Firefox for the web.
I still use Outlook Express for mail and newsgroups because frankly, I've
never experienced a problem with it, nor do I find it difficult or lacking
in features to use. I tried Thunderbird and Agent and just didn't care for
their formats.

Eisboch

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 03:36:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


I've been reading the various comments regarding Vista versus XP (while
mentally filtering some of the personal BS expressed by some) and have
reached the conclusion that I'll stick with XP for as long as I can.

I've stayed out of this, but I will say this.

My brother runs a huge IT operation and knows his stuff when it comes
to this.

His very words: "Don't buy Vista - it's going to be a diaster - stick
with XP because Vista will last only as long as it takes to build
another XP - it's going to become the ME of the MS ops line."

My wife used to have issues with her two computers until we
finally disabled Norton in them (at the advice of a computer guru). No
problems since. I had one spyware infection on my home laptop a while back
and SpyDoctor cured it.

If I could I would cancel Norton.

The problem is I don't know what to replace it with.

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 03:46:17 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

One other "observation". I stopped using Internet Explorer and use only
Firefox for the web.

I tried Firefox and didn't like it.

I might, now that I've been using the latest iteration of Explorer,
try it again.

I still use Outlook Express for mail and newsgroups because frankly, I've
never experienced a problem with it, nor do I find it difficult or lacking
in features to use. I tried Thunderbird and Agent and just didn't care for
their formats.

Thunderbird has some interesting "quirks" but you expect that for open
source programs.

Agent I've been with since like forever and am used to it, although I
will admit, it's not the most intuitive program ever designed.

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 03:46:17 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...

"Mike" wrote in message
...

I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. I was a Vista beta tester, and
when it was over, I was back to XP. They invited me for the SP1 beta, and
I said no thanks.




One other "observation". I stopped using Internet Explorer and use only
Firefox for the web.
I still use Outlook Express for mail and newsgroups because frankly, I've
never experienced a problem with it, nor do I find it difficult or lacking
in features to use. I tried Thunderbird and Agent and just didn't care for
their formats.

Eisboch


I've been happy with Firefox, except in those very rare cases when I need
something from MS. MS Outloook works well, haven't tried the Express
version. I'd never use Agent as an email program, but it does a great job
at one thing - newsgroups.
--
John H

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On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 12:44:50 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 03:36:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


I've been reading the various comments regarding Vista versus XP (while
mentally filtering some of the personal BS expressed by some) and have
reached the conclusion that I'll stick with XP for as long as I can.

I've stayed out of this, but I will say this.

My brother runs a huge IT operation and knows his stuff when it comes
to this.

His very words: "Don't buy Vista - it's going to be a diaster - stick
with XP because Vista will last only as long as it takes to build
another XP - it's going to become the ME of the MS ops line."

My wife used to have issues with her two computers until we
finally disabled Norton in them (at the advice of a computer guru). No
problems since. I had one spyware infection on my home laptop a while back
and SpyDoctor cured it.

If I could I would cancel Norton.

The problem is I don't know what to replace it with.

Norton is on the bottom of the CR ratings. FWIW, here's what Consumer
Reports has to say:

CR Quick Recommendations Software suites

A security suite makes sense if you want the simplicity of a single
program. Suites also offer features that most stand-alone products don't
include (and that we list in the Ratings chart, but did not test). And
where stand-alone programs usually run on only one machine, some suites can
be used on as many as three computers, making them a potential money saver.

However, we recommend suites only for machines with at least 1 gigabyte of
memory; any less risks slow performance. All of the products offer a
unified interface, automatic updating of all components, and a software
firewall, and are compatible with Windows XP and Vista. Ratings reflect
performance against viruses, spyware, and spam. Quick Picks considers
performance and value.


Quick Picks
Best choice overall:
Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2007 $50

The Trend Micro suite excelled in every category and, even with its $50
annual fee, offers fairly inexpensive all-around protection for as many as
three computers. The few extras it lacks, including an ad/popup blocker,
file backup, and Windows cleanup utilities, might be found on other
software you use, such as your operating system and browser.

A fine value:
Check Point ZoneAlarm Internet Security Suite 7.0 $50

Check Point's antivirus and antispyware components didn't score quite as
high as Trend Micro's, though its antispam protection was first-rate. Its
annual fee is $15 less than Trend Micro's. It includes an ad/popup blocker,
though it lacks the Wi-Fi monitor that Trend Micro offers. It can be used
on as many as three computers.



For full features at a premium price:
McAfee Total Protection 2007 $80
McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 $70

These best combine high performance and ample features, including a file
backup utility, and offer an integrated security solution, albeit at a
relatively high price. The lower-priced suite also carries a lower annual
fee. It's the better buy unless you really need a Wi-Fi monitor, a
less-than-essential feature unless you suspect your neighbors of hacking
into your network. Note that McAfee charges $10 extra per year to service
each computer beyond one.

--
John H

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On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 12:44:50 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


His very words: "Don't buy Vista - it's going to be a diaster - stick
with XP because Vista will last only as long as it takes to build
another XP - it's going to become the ME of the MS ops line."

I very rarely use Windows, but I can't remember this much negative
feedback concerning a Windows release. Considering the time and money MS
put into this release, you have to wonder. I've read in several places
that Microsoft only makes money on their operating systems, and MS
Office. This has to hurt.


If I could I would cancel Norton.

The problem is I don't know what to replace it with.

Open source and free. I've only heard good things about it.

http://www.clamwin.com/

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John H. wrote:


For full features at a premium price:
McAfee Total Protection 2007 $80
McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 $70

These best combine high performance and ample features, including a file
backup utility, and offer an integrated security solution, albeit at a
relatively high price. The lower-priced suite also carries a lower annual
fee. It's the better buy unless you really need a Wi-Fi monitor, a
less-than-essential feature unless you suspect your neighbors of hacking
into your network. Note that McAfee charges $10 extra per year to service
each computer beyond one.

I use McAfee because Comcast gives it away. Unfortunately, it is a
memory hog also, though not as bad as Norton.

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On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:11:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

John H. wrote:


For full features at a premium price:
McAfee Total Protection 2007 $80
McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 $70

These best combine high performance and ample features, including a file
backup utility, and offer an integrated security solution, albeit at a
relatively high price. The lower-priced suite also carries a lower annual
fee. It's the better buy unless you really need a Wi-Fi monitor, a
less-than-essential feature unless you suspect your neighbors of hacking
into your network. Note that McAfee charges $10 extra per year to service
each computer beyond one.

I use McAfee because Comcast gives it away. Unfortunately, it is a
memory hog also, though not as bad as Norton.

I've been using McAfee also. Mainly, I'm too old and lazy to do the work
necessary to install/uninstall. When I get a few years younger, I may
consider switching.
--
John H

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JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
If I could I would cancel Norton.

The problem is I don't know what to replace it with.

AVG Free. Automatic updates. http://free.grisoft.com/

avast! is also good. http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html



JimH,
Can you see how much memory AVG uses. McAfee uses about 25,000K

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JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
If I could I would cancel Norton.

The problem is I don't know what to replace it with.
AVG Free. Automatic updates. http://free.grisoft.com/

avast! is also good. http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html
JimH,
Can you see how much memory AVG uses. McAfee uses about 25,000K

Less than a quarter of that.



That would have been my guess. McAfee is a memory hog.

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 03:36:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


I've been reading the various comments regarding Vista versus XP (while
mentally filtering some of the personal BS expressed by some) and have
reached the conclusion that I'll stick with XP for as long as I can.

I've stayed out of this, but I will say this.

My brother runs a huge IT operation and knows his stuff when it comes
to this.

His very words: "Don't buy Vista - it's going to be a diaster - stick
with XP because Vista will last only as long as it takes to build
another XP - it's going to become the ME of the MS ops line."

My wife used to have issues with her two computers until we
finally disabled Norton in them (at the advice of a computer guru). No
problems since. I had one spyware infection on my home laptop a while
back
and SpyDoctor cured it.

If I could I would cancel Norton.

The problem is I don't know what to replace it with.

I recommend the free version of AVG. I've been using it for a couple of
years with no problems what so ever. My PC is on 24/7, never a virus.

http://www.download.com/3000-2239_4-10761481.html

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D.Duck wrote:

The problem is I don't know what to replace it with.

I recommend the free version of AVG. I've been using it for a couple of
years with no problems what so ever. My PC is on 24/7, never a virus.

http://www.download.com/3000-2239_4-10761481.html

This is address to anyone:

I just checked out what McAfee does that I would be missing with AVG,
the only other feature I use in the Internet Suite is the Firewall. Are
you using a firewall and if so, which one?

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:06:00 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:


"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
If I could I would cancel Norton.

The problem is I don't know what to replace it with.

AVG Free. Automatic updates. http://free.grisoft.com/

avast! is also good. http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html

JimH,
Can you see how much memory AVG uses. McAfee uses about 25,000K

Less than a quarter of that.


Avast and AVG received the lowest ratings of the 12 anti-virus programs
tested by Consumer Reports. AVG was on the bottom.
--
John H

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John H. wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:06:00 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
If I could I would cancel Norton.

The problem is I don't know what to replace it with.
AVG Free. Automatic updates. http://free.grisoft.com/

avast! is also good. http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html
JimH,
Can you see how much memory AVG uses. McAfee uses about 25,000K
Less than a quarter of that.


Avast and AVG received the lowest ratings of the 12 anti-virus programs
tested by Consumer Reports. AVG was on the bottom.

Which version did they test and why did it rate so low?

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John H. wrote:
On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:11:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

John H. wrote:

For full features at a premium price:
McAfee Total Protection 2007 $80
McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 $70

These best combine high performance and ample features, including a file
backup utility, and offer an integrated security solution, albeit at a
relatively high price. The lower-priced suite also carries a lower annual
fee. It's the better buy unless you really need a Wi-Fi monitor, a
less-than-essential feature unless you suspect your neighbors of hacking
into your network. Note that McAfee charges $10 extra per year to service
each computer beyond one.

I use McAfee because Comcast gives it away. Unfortunately, it is a
memory hog also, though not as bad as Norton.

I've been using McAfee also. Mainly, I'm too old and lazy to do the work
necessary to install/uninstall. When I get a few years younger, I may
consider switching.


The Russians are far more adept with these sorts of programs. More than
that I cannot say.

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JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
If I could I would cancel Norton.

The problem is I don't know what to replace it with.

AVG Free. Automatic updates. http://free.grisoft.com/

avast! is also good. http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html




I use AVG free on my laptop. Norton has been "trouble-ware" ever since
Peter Norton sold the company off to a conglomerate. One of the most
serious problems with Norton is that it is damned hard to remove all of
it from your computer.

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John H. wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:06:00 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
If I could I would cancel Norton.

The problem is I don't know what to replace it with.
AVG Free. Automatic updates. http://free.grisoft.com/

avast! is also good. http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html
JimH,
Can you see how much memory AVG uses. McAfee uses about 25,000K
Less than a quarter of that.


Avast and AVG received the lowest ratings of the 12 anti-virus programs
tested by Consumer Reports. AVG was on the bottom.


Well, that does it for me...a low rating on a computer security program
from Consumers Reports. Yup. That's definitive.

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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
D.Duck wrote:

The problem is I don't know what to replace it with.

I recommend the free version of AVG. I've been using it for a couple of
years with no problems what so ever. My PC is on 24/7, never a virus.

http://www.download.com/3000-2239_4-10761481.html
This is address to anyone:

I just checked out what McAfee does that I would be missing with AVG, the
only other feature I use in the Internet Suite is the Firewall. Are you
using a firewall and if so, which one?

Besides AVG for intrusion protection I used WinXP firewall and router. Yes
I know that Win firewall is only checking incoming traffic. My theory is
that if you keep stuff out you will not have a problem.

I've been active on the Internet for close to 20 years and have never had
any problems associated with viruii, trojans, etc. The smartest thing one
can do is just practice safe HEX.

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HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:06:00 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
message . ..
JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
If I could I would cancel Norton.

The problem is I don't know what to replace it with.
AVG Free. Automatic updates. http://free.grisoft.com/

avast! is also good.
http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html
JimH,
Can you see how much memory AVG uses. McAfee uses about 25,000K
Less than a quarter of that.

Avast and AVG received the lowest ratings of the 12 anti-virus programs
tested by Consumer Reports. AVG was on the bottom.


Well, that does it for me...a low rating on a computer security program
from Consumers Reports. Yup. That's definitive.

See Harry, you and I can agree on something. I look at all CR reports
with a very skeptic eye.

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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:06:00 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
If I could I would cancel Norton.

The problem is I don't know what to replace it with.
AVG Free. Automatic updates. http://free.grisoft.com/

avast! is also good.
http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html
JimH,
Can you see how much memory AVG uses. McAfee uses about 25,000K
Less than a quarter of that.
Avast and AVG received the lowest ratings of the 12 anti-virus programs
tested by Consumer Reports. AVG was on the bottom.

Well, that does it for me...a low rating on a computer security program
from Consumers Reports. Yup. That's definitive.

*Norton* was rated #6. ~giggle~



JimH, You can see why I say CR are done by well intentioned amateurs
reviewing products.

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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:06:00 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
If I could I would cancel Norton.

The problem is I don't know what to replace it with.
AVG Free. Automatic updates. http://free.grisoft.com/

avast! is also good.
http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html
JimH,
Can you see how much memory AVG uses. McAfee uses about 25,000K
Less than a quarter of that.
Avast and AVG received the lowest ratings of the 12 anti-virus programs
tested by Consumer Reports. AVG was on the bottom.

Well, that does it for me...a low rating on a computer security program
from Consumers Reports. Yup. That's definitive.

*Norton* was rated #6. ~giggle~



The latest Norton suite is also touted by PC Mag, but I had so many
problems with the 2006 version, I dumped it and I doubt I would try it
again. In addition to the fact it is nearly impossible to remove from
the registry and from "hidden locations," I thought it was incredibly
bloated, and I could tell it was slowing everything down.