On Nov 30, 12:49 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:rkg0l3d4r5dd0qav1ego0n05okvc0us10m@4ax .com...





On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:21:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Reminds me of being in the Gulf, out from Tarpon Springs. Biggest salt
water trout I have ever had on a hook. I was shaking with glee, told
my friend Bud, when I get it up to the bow, reach down and grab the
leader and swing it in the boat. Well, we all know that trout have
weak lips...... Bud grabs the leader, swings the fish not INTO the
boat, but whacks it on the side of the boat........goodbye fishie,
indeed!

Fortunately, I learned while a teenager about handling game fish at
the boat. I had a great mentor with Captain Hendrickson out of
Marblehead as a teen learning the "trade".

In Scott's defense, the type of fishing he does for trout doesn't
readily translate to bigger game fish. He has a tendency to fight the
fish with line rather than rod tip. The result is that the rod tip is
much lower and when something heavy hooked up, the rod ends up
pointing at the fish which allows the line to go slack rather than
tight. Low rod tips work with trout (although it's not the preferred
method) - not with 6 pound large mouth or a 12 pound bluefish.

What happened with that fish was he, with some "intense" coaching, got
the fish to the boat, but blew it when he pointed the tip at the fish
and got in my way not giving me a chance to grab the line for netting.

He'll learn.

I'll make sure of it. He's already had an introduction into how I
feel about losing a decent fish at the boat. :)

I'm suprised you didn't send him to 'sleep with the fishes'!- Hide quoted text -

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Me too He was a little miffed. And T is not really one
to wear it on his sleeve. Anyway, to my notice he was somewhere
between the time I hooked the lobster pot, to the time an unmarked
rock pile took out the 4 blade, ss prop....;(

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On Nov 30, 2:55 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:14:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Nov 29, 6:00 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:45:58 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:39 pm, wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:33 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Damn - I never knew that.

Yes you did

And I'll tell y'all another thing......
If you need your bait to go to the bottom, they have these things
called weights that you can use that will do that for you, they are
smaller than a comparable size rock. Now you know my
secret............

Wow - that's really informative.

Do you also use a rod with a reel or just a cane pole? :)

Both will work! It's an amazing thing. The weight actually makes the
lure/bait sink......
I've seen it with my own eyes!

Well, then I guess it's true.

Stones worked great years ago, and probably work well now. As well as
sparkplugs. We used to use sparkplugs casting into the rocky area of the
Pacific shoreline as they were cheap and you put them on a dropper and
saved
the rest of rig when you snagged. As to the rocks, a few years ago when
we
were traveling in Italy, we went to the fishing museum on Lake Trasimeno.
They had bronze hooks from the Romans as well as weights that were a
worked
circle of rocks that were recovered from the lake bottom, We a really
interesting museum. Lake was a large shallow body of water, that looked
nasty. Talked to a couple of guys that had been bass fishing, and
loading
an about 16' Tracker bass boat. Cost them about 2x what they cost here.
I
think the website for the museum ishttp://www.museodellapesca.ch/ .- Hide
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Let's have a little contest then, Bill. You use stones and sparkplugs
for weight, I'll use what I want and we'll go bass fishing and see who
has the best results........

Not all of us just fish for bass. You surf fish the rocks of the ocean and
you may not be able to fund your IRA after buying all those expensive
weights. Lots of my bass fishing, is with weightless Senkos and if I add
weight I use a small nail. Still pretty cheap for the weight. Wish I could
say the same for the Senko.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:29:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Nov 30, 11:20 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 29, 6:00 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:45:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:39 pm, wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:33 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Damn - I never knew that.
Yes you did
And I'll tell y'all another thing......
If you need your bait to go to the bottom, they have these things
called weights that you can use that will do that for you, they are
smaller than a comparable size rock. Now you know my secret............
Wow - that's really informative.
Do you also use a rod with a reel or just a cane pole? :)
Both will work! It's an amazing thing. The weight actually makes the
lure/bait sink......
I've seen it with my own eyes!
Does one brand seem to work better than the other?- Hide quoted text -

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Yes, of course....only the most expensive ones in the store will catch
fish......sheesh, anybody knows that!

The most expensive ones with the pretty colors.

Thanks to all, I don't know a lot about fishing, but I think I can go
shopping and look like I do.

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:19:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

wrote:


Yeah, and it starts and ends with me... I saw a great big fishie,
would have been the biggest fresh water fishie I ever got. So when he
got right next to the boat I pointed the rod right at him so SW could
see him better to, er, um and him... Bye, bye, fishie;(

I hate to tell you this, but I very very rarely fish, and even I
wouldn't do that.

~~ snerk ~~

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:19:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

wrote:

Yeah, and it starts and ends with me... I saw a great big fishie,
would have been the biggest fresh water fishie I ever got. So when he
got right next to the boat I pointed the rod right at him so SW could
see him better to, er, um and him... Bye, bye, fishie;(
I hate to tell you this, but I very very rarely fish, and even I
wouldn't do that.

~~ snerk ~~

You don't believe me? Is that it? Do you want a piece of me?

or if I misread your snerk, Never mind.

Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:21:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Reminds me of being in the Gulf, out from Tarpon Springs. Biggest salt
water trout I have ever had on a hook. I was shaking with glee, told
my friend Bud, when I get it up to the bow, reach down and grab the
leader and swing it in the boat. Well, we all know that trout have
weak lips...... Bud grabs the leader, swings the fish not INTO the
boat, but whacks it on the side of the boat........goodbye fishie,
indeed!
Fortunately, I learned while a teenager about handling game fish at
the boat. I had a great mentor with Captain Hendrickson out of
Marblehead as a teen learning the "trade".

In Scott's defense, the type of fishing he does for trout doesn't
readily translate to bigger game fish. He has a tendency to fight the
fish with line rather than rod tip. The result is that the rod tip is
much lower and when something heavy hooked up, the rod ends up
pointing at the fish which allows the line to go slack rather than
tight. Low rod tips work with trout (although it's not the preferred
method) - not with 6 pound large mouth or a 12 pound bluefish.

What happened with that fish was he, with some "intense" coaching, got
the fish to the boat, but blew it when he pointed the tip at the fish
and got in my way not giving me a chance to grab the line for netting.

He'll learn.

I'll make sure of it. He's already had an introduction into how I
feel about losing a decent fish at the boat. :)


I'm suprised you didn't send him to 'sleep with the fishes'!



Moronic at best. Nice try. Maybe your son can get you up to speed on
the new "hip" catchphrases. What else does he have to do?

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:27:43 -0500, Dan
wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:21:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Reminds me of being in the Gulf, out from Tarpon Springs. Biggest salt
water trout I have ever had on a hook. I was shaking with glee, told
my friend Bud, when I get it up to the bow, reach down and grab the
leader and swing it in the boat. Well, we all know that trout have
weak lips...... Bud grabs the leader, swings the fish not INTO the
boat, but whacks it on the side of the boat........goodbye fishie,
indeed!
Fortunately, I learned while a teenager about handling game fish at
the boat. I had a great mentor with Captain Hendrickson out of
Marblehead as a teen learning the "trade".

In Scott's defense, the type of fishing he does for trout doesn't
readily translate to bigger game fish. He has a tendency to fight the
fish with line rather than rod tip. The result is that the rod tip is
much lower and when something heavy hooked up, the rod ends up
pointing at the fish which allows the line to go slack rather than
tight. Low rod tips work with trout (although it's not the preferred
method) - not with 6 pound large mouth or a 12 pound bluefish.

What happened with that fish was he, with some "intense" coaching, got
the fish to the boat, but blew it when he pointed the tip at the fish
and got in my way not giving me a chance to grab the line for netting.

He'll learn.

I'll make sure of it. He's already had an introduction into how I
feel about losing a decent fish at the boat. :)

I'm suprised you didn't send him to 'sleep with the fishes'!

Moronic at best. Nice try. Maybe your son can get you up to speed on
the new "hip" catchphrases. What else does he have to do?

Actually, that was pretty close to what almost happened.

Just ask Scott. :)

I take my fishing very seriously.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:27:43 -0500, Dan
wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:21:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Reminds me of being in the Gulf, out from Tarpon Springs. Biggest salt
water trout I have ever had on a hook. I was shaking with glee, told
my friend Bud, when I get it up to the bow, reach down and grab the
leader and swing it in the boat. Well, we all know that trout have
weak lips...... Bud grabs the leader, swings the fish not INTO the
boat, but whacks it on the side of the boat........goodbye fishie,
indeed!
Fortunately, I learned while a teenager about handling game fish at
the boat. I had a great mentor with Captain Hendrickson out of
Marblehead as a teen learning the "trade".

In Scott's defense, the type of fishing he does for trout doesn't
readily translate to bigger game fish. He has a tendency to fight the
fish with line rather than rod tip. The result is that the rod tip is
much lower and when something heavy hooked up, the rod ends up
pointing at the fish which allows the line to go slack rather than
tight. Low rod tips work with trout (although it's not the preferred
method) - not with 6 pound large mouth or a 12 pound bluefish.

What happened with that fish was he, with some "intense" coaching, got
the fish to the boat, but blew it when he pointed the tip at the fish
and got in my way not giving me a chance to grab the line for netting.

He'll learn.

I'll make sure of it. He's already had an introduction into how I
feel about losing a decent fish at the boat. :)

I'm suprised you didn't send him to 'sleep with the fishes'!

Moronic at best. Nice try. Maybe your son can get you up to speed on
the new "hip" catchphrases. What else does he have to do?

Actually, that was pretty close to what almost happened.

Just ask Scott. :)

I take my fishing very seriously.


Maybe you could invite Dingy Dan along sometime. I'd pay admission to see
him swim home.

On Nov 30, 8:40 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:27:43 -0500, Dan
wrote:





Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:21:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Reminds me of being in the Gulf, out from Tarpon Springs. Biggest salt
water trout I have ever had on a hook. I was shaking with glee, told
my friend Bud, when I get it up to the bow, reach down and grab the
leader and swing it in the boat. Well, we all know that trout have
weak lips...... Bud grabs the leader, swings the fish not INTO the
boat, but whacks it on the side of the boat........goodbye fishie,
indeed!
Fortunately, I learned while a teenager about handling game fish at
the boat. I had a great mentor with Captain Hendrickson out of
Marblehead as a teen learning the "trade".

In Scott's defense, the type of fishing he does for trout doesn't
readily translate to bigger game fish. He has a tendency to fight the
fish with line rather than rod tip. The result is that the rod tip is
much lower and when something heavy hooked up, the rod ends up
pointing at the fish which allows the line to go slack rather than
tight. Low rod tips work with trout (although it's not the preferred
method) - not with 6 pound large mouth or a 12 pound bluefish.

What happened with that fish was he, with some "intense" coaching, got
the fish to the boat, but blew it when he pointed the tip at the fish
and got in my way not giving me a chance to grab the line for netting.

He'll learn.

I'll make sure of it. He's already had an introduction into how I
feel about losing a decent fish at the boat. :)

I'm suprised you didn't send him to 'sleep with the fishes'!

Moronic at best. Nice try. Maybe your son can get you up to speed on
the new "hip" catchphrases. What else does he have to do?

Actually, that was pretty close to what almost happened.

Just ask Scott. :)

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And I usually don't Fishing for me is fun, if I catch a fish, ah,
whatever. But I do admit that I was pretty upset to lose that
largemouth, I am guessing he was over 4 pounds. I would have prepared
him with lemon and a fresh brewed pilsner

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On Nov 30, 8:40 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:27:43 -0500, Dan
wrote:





Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:21:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:
Reminds me of being in the Gulf, out from Tarpon Springs. Biggest salt
water trout I have ever had on a hook. I was shaking with glee, told
my friend Bud, when I get it up to the bow, reach down and grab the
leader and swing it in the boat. Well, we all know that trout have
weak lips...... Bud grabs the leader, swings the fish not INTO the
boat, but whacks it on the side of the boat........goodbye fishie,
indeed!
Fortunately, I learned while a teenager about handling game fish at
the boat. I had a great mentor with Captain Hendrickson out of
Marblehead as a teen learning the "trade".
In Scott's defense, the type of fishing he does for trout doesn't
readily translate to bigger game fish. He has a tendency to fight the
fish with line rather than rod tip. The result is that the rod tip is
much lower and when something heavy hooked up, the rod ends up
pointing at the fish which allows the line to go slack rather than
tight. Low rod tips work with trout (although it's not the preferred
method) - not with 6 pound large mouth or a 12 pound bluefish.
What happened with that fish was he, with some "intense" coaching, got
the fish to the boat, but blew it when he pointed the tip at the fish
and got in my way not giving me a chance to grab the line for netting.
He'll learn.
I'll make sure of it. He's already had an introduction into how I
feel about losing a decent fish at the boat. :)
I'm suprised you didn't send him to 'sleep with the fishes'!
Moronic at best. Nice try. Maybe your son can get you up to speed on
the new "hip" catchphrases. What else does he have to do?
Actually, that was pretty close to what almost happened.

Just ask Scott. :)

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And I usually don't Fishing for me is fun, if I catch a fish, ah,
whatever. But I do admit that I was pretty upset to lose that
largemouth, I am guessing he was over 4 pounds. I would have prepared
him with lemon and a fresh brewed pilsner


Not to worry; I don't take fishing very seriously anymore, either. I
know how to catch fish and do when I feel like it, for the most part,
but certain kinds of fishing really have no appeal for me these days. I
like sight fishing most of all, and if I find some interesting bottom
structure, I like jigging and drifting over the structure. I like drift
fishing with live bait. But anchoring to bottom fish, or trolling
umbrella rigs? Nah.