On Nov 30, 7:27 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 06:48:10 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"





wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:07:44 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Nov 29, 6:02 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:45:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:39 pm, wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:33 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Damn - I never knew that.
Yes you did
And I'll tell y'all another thing......
If you need your bait to go to the bottom, they have these things
called weights that you can use that will do that for you, they are
smaller than a comparable size rock. Now you know my secret............
You know, you gotta wonder about these infomercials.

I'd be curious how many people here, among those who post regularly
that is, don't know about presentation and technique.
Well, maybe I should at least read his post

Nah - all you need to do is follow instructions. You know - like give
the captain time to grab the leader so you don't lose big fish at the
boat.

Stuff like that. :)

What kind of idiot would not give the captain tim eto grab the leader?

Why do I feel like there is a story behind that.

There is.- Hide quoted text -

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Yeah, and it starts and ends with me... I saw a great big fishie,
would have been the biggest fresh water fishie I ever got. So when he
got right next to the boat I pointed the rod right at him so SW could
see him better to, er, um and him... Bye, bye, fishie;(

On Nov 29, 6:00 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:45:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:39 pm, wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:33 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Damn - I never knew that.

Yes you did

And I'll tell y'all another thing......
If you need your bait to go to the bottom, they have these things
called weights that you can use that will do that for you, they are
smaller than a comparable size rock. Now you know my secret............

Wow - that's really informative.

Do you also use a rod with a reel or just a cane pole? :)

Both will work! It's an amazing thing. The weight actually makes the
lure/bait sink......
I've seen it with my own eyes!

On Nov 29, 6:02 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:45:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:39 pm, wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:33 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Damn - I never knew that.

Yes you did

And I'll tell y'all another thing......
If you need your bait to go to the bottom, they have these things
called weights that you can use that will do that for you, they are
smaller than a comparable size rock. Now you know my secret............

You know, you gotta wonder about these infomercials.

I'd be curious how many people here, among those who post regularly
that is, don't know about presentation and technique.

I agree. And technique changes from place to place. Take Lake
Cumberland, TN. The shore in most places is more of a shale cliff than
anything, and a good technique there is to take a Silver Buddy and
just let it drop down the cliff, bouncing off of the rocks until it
stops, then do it again. Nice smallies that way!

On Nov 29, 6:05 pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
wrote in message

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On Nov 29, 4:39 pm, wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:33 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Damn - I never knew that.

Yes you did

And I'll tell y'all another thing......
If you need your bait to go to the bottom, they have these things
called weights that you can use that will do that for you, they are
smaller than a comparable size rock. Now you know my secret............

They are "smaller" than a "comparable" size rock. Does that make them
equal, smaller or larger sized. Confusing.

Think......
You can do it......try hard......

On Nov 30, 7:42 am, wrote:
On Nov 30, 7:27 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:





On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 06:48:10 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:07:44 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Nov 29, 6:02 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:45:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:39 pm, wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:33 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Damn - I never knew that.
Yes you did
And I'll tell y'all another thing......
If you need your bait to go to the bottom, they have these things
called weights that you can use that will do that for you, they are
smaller than a comparable size rock. Now you know my secret............
You know, you gotta wonder about these infomercials.

I'd be curious how many people here, among those who post regularly
that is, don't know about presentation and technique.
Well, maybe I should at least read his post

Nah - all you need to do is follow instructions. You know - like give
the captain time to grab the leader so you don't lose big fish at the
boat.

Stuff like that. :)

What kind of idiot would not give the captain tim eto grab the leader?

Why do I feel like there is a story behind that.

There is.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, and it starts and ends with me... I saw a great big fishie,
would have been the biggest fresh water fishie I ever got. So when he
got right next to the boat I pointed the rod right at him so SW could
see him better to, er, um and him... Bye, bye, fishie;(- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Reminds me of being in the Gulf, out from Tarpon Springs. Biggest salt
water trout I have ever had on a hook. I was shaking with glee, told
my friend Bud, when I get it up to the bow, reach down and grab the
leader and swing it in the boat. Well, we all know that trout have
weak lips...... Bud grabs the leader, swings the fish not INTO the
boat, but whacks it on the side of the boat........goodbye fishie,
indeed!

wrote:


Yeah, and it starts and ends with me... I saw a great big fishie,
would have been the biggest fresh water fishie I ever got. So when he
got right next to the boat I pointed the rod right at him so SW could
see him better to, er, um and him... Bye, bye, fishie;(

I hate to tell you this, but I very very rarely fish, and even I
wouldn't do that.

wrote:
On Nov 29, 6:00 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:45:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:39 pm, wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:33 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Damn - I never knew that.
Yes you did
And I'll tell y'all another thing......
If you need your bait to go to the bottom, they have these things
called weights that you can use that will do that for you, they are
smaller than a comparable size rock. Now you know my secret............
Wow - that's really informative.

Do you also use a rod with a reel or just a cane pole? :)

Both will work! It's an amazing thing. The weight actually makes the
lure/bait sink......
I've seen it with my own eyes!

Does one brand seem to work better than the other?

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:14:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Nov 29, 6:00 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:45:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:39 pm, wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:33 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Damn - I never knew that.

Yes you did

And I'll tell y'all another thing......
If you need your bait to go to the bottom, they have these things
called weights that you can use that will do that for you, they are
smaller than a comparable size rock. Now you know my secret............

Wow - that's really informative.

Do you also use a rod with a reel or just a cane pole? :)

Both will work! It's an amazing thing. The weight actually makes the
lure/bait sink......
I've seen it with my own eyes!

Well, then I guess it's true.

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:42:39 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Nov 30, 7:27 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 06:48:10 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"





wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:07:44 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Nov 29, 6:02 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:45:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:39 pm, wrote:
On Nov 29, 4:33 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Damn - I never knew that.
Yes you did
And I'll tell y'all another thing......
If you need your bait to go to the bottom, they have these things
called weights that you can use that will do that for you, they are
smaller than a comparable size rock. Now you know my secret............
You know, you gotta wonder about these infomercials.

I'd be curious how many people here, among those who post regularly
that is, don't know about presentation and technique.
Well, maybe I should at least read his post

Nah - all you need to do is follow instructions. You know - like give
the captain time to grab the leader so you don't lose big fish at the
boat.

Stuff like that. :)

What kind of idiot would not give the captain tim eto grab the leader?

Why do I feel like there is a story behind that.

There is.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, and it starts and ends with me... I saw a great big fishie,
would have been the biggest fresh water fishie I ever got. So when he
got right next to the boat I pointed the rod right at him so SW could
see him better to, er, um and him... Bye, bye, fishie;(

And as you know, I can be rather "intense" about things like that.

Trout fishermen - sheesh. :)

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:21:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Reminds me of being in the Gulf, out from Tarpon Springs. Biggest salt
water trout I have ever had on a hook. I was shaking with glee, told
my friend Bud, when I get it up to the bow, reach down and grab the
leader and swing it in the boat. Well, we all know that trout have
weak lips...... Bud grabs the leader, swings the fish not INTO the
boat, but whacks it on the side of the boat........goodbye fishie,
indeed!

Fortunately, I learned while a teenager about handling game fish at
the boat. I had a great mentor with Captain Hendrickson out of
Marblehead as a teen learning the "trade".

In Scott's defense, the type of fishing he does for trout doesn't
readily translate to bigger game fish. He has a tendency to fight the
fish with line rather than rod tip. The result is that the rod tip is
much lower and when something heavy hooked up, the rod ends up
pointing at the fish which allows the line to go slack rather than
tight. Low rod tips work with trout (although it's not the preferred
method) - not with 6 pound large mouth or a 12 pound bluefish.

What happened with that fish was he, with some "intense" coaching, got
the fish to the boat, but blew it when he pointed the tip at the fish
and got in my way not giving me a chance to grab the line for netting.

He'll learn.

I'll make sure of it. He's already had an introduction into how I
feel about losing a decent fish at the boat. :)