wrote in message
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We really count on our systems here to earn a living. We take them
apart often, before they shut down. My SO's desktop is actually harder
than mine to clean as she is also a smoker. We also back up and
format, reload software on a regular basis, just as a precaution. Most
of our computers are dedicated to specific types of software/function
so only the play boxes get bogged down really, like this one.
(Satellite A-135)

You guys motivated me to take this laptop apart and clean it.
It's a three year old HP Pavilion zd8000 that has performed flawlessly since
I got it.

Anyway, I shut it down, carefully turned it upside down and removed all the
accessible screws. No way would it come apart. After several attempts, the
"leave well enough alone" buzzer went off in my head. I removed a couple of
covers (the ram bay and the harddrive bay), hooked up a little computer
vacuum gizmo that came with a hand-held Oreck vacuum cleaner and carefully
vacuumed whatever dust I could get to with the little brush.

Put the screws back in and decided to forget about it.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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We really count on our systems here to earn a living. We take them
apart often, before they shut down. My SO's desktop is actually harder
than mine to clean as she is also a smoker. We also back up and
format, reload software on a regular basis, just as a precaution. Most
of our computers are dedicated to specific types of software/function
so only the play boxes get bogged down really, like this one.
(Satellite A-135)

You guys motivated me to take this laptop apart and clean it.
It's a three year old HP Pavilion zd8000 that has performed flawlessly
since I got it.

Anyway, I shut it down, carefully turned it upside down and removed all
the accessible screws. No way would it come apart. After several
attempts, the "leave well enough alone" buzzer went off in my head. I
removed a couple of covers (the ram bay and the harddrive bay), hooked up
a little computer vacuum gizmo that came with a hand-held Oreck vacuum
cleaner and carefully vacuumed whatever dust I could get to with the
little brush.

Put the screws back in and decided to forget about it.

Eisboch

Chicken. :)

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Put the screws back in and decided to forget about it.

Eisboch

Chicken. :)


yup. I'll let it die of natural causes.

Eisboch

On Nov 30, 7:45 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
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We really count on our systems here to earn a living. We take them
apart often, before they shut down. My SO's desktop is actually harder
than mine to clean as she is also a smoker. We also back up and
format, reload software on a regular basis, just as a precaution. Most
of our computers are dedicated to specific types of software/function
so only the play boxes get bogged down really, like this one.
(Satellite A-135)

You guys motivated me to take this laptop apart and clean it.
It's a three year old HP Pavilion zd8000 that has performed flawlessly since
I got it.

Anyway, I shut it down, carefully turned it upside down and removed all the
accessible screws. No way would it come apart. After several attempts, the
"leave well enough alone" buzzer went off in my head. I removed a couple of
covers (the ram bay and the harddrive bay), hooked up a little computer
vacuum gizmo that came with a hand-held Oreck vacuum cleaner and carefully
vacuumed whatever dust I could get to with the little brush.

Put the screws back in and decided to forget about it.

Eisboch

Personally, I say you probably made a good call. It is so easy to
break little tabs and such, especially if you don't know what you are
looking at. The biggest problem is deciding which screws really hold
that part you are digging at, although like I said, they are getting
easier as "convention" is established.

wrote:
On Nov 30, 7:45 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

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We really count on our systems here to earn a living. We take them
apart often, before they shut down. My SO's desktop is actually harder
than mine to clean as she is also a smoker. We also back up and
format, reload software on a regular basis, just as a precaution. Most
of our computers are dedicated to specific types of software/function
so only the play boxes get bogged down really, like this one.
(Satellite A-135)
You guys motivated me to take this laptop apart and clean it.
It's a three year old HP Pavilion zd8000 that has performed flawlessly since
I got it.

Anyway, I shut it down, carefully turned it upside down and removed all the
accessible screws. No way would it come apart. After several attempts, the
"leave well enough alone" buzzer went off in my head. I removed a couple of
covers (the ram bay and the harddrive bay), hooked up a little computer
vacuum gizmo that came with a hand-held Oreck vacuum cleaner and carefully
vacuumed whatever dust I could get to with the little brush.

Put the screws back in and decided to forget about it.

Eisboch

Personally, I say you probably made a good call. It is so easy to
break little tabs and such, especially if you don't know what you are
looking at. The biggest problem is deciding which screws really hold
that part you are digging at, although like I said, they are getting
easier as "convention" is established.



My old thinkpad's manual has complete directions for a full fieldstrip.
Never done it, though.

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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:13:38 -0500, HK wrote:

My old thinkpad's manual has complete directions for a full fieldstrip.
Never done it, though.

That is a good idea. I worked with 14 CEs (IBM computer techs) and we
all had Thinkpads. Only the guys who really specialized in laptops
would screw with them and they hated it. Worse than a laptop is the
"cop terminals" IBM developed with Motorola. Those things are packed
in the case tigher than a Thinkpad.
I bought a real 1-800-IBMSERV M/A on my personal thinkpad while it was
still available. I could have had onsite service if I wanted it but I
figured out the Fed Ex "send it away" service was faster. If you saved
the service shipping box it would turn around in 48 hours. The
repair depot was in the FedEx Memphis hub. Once after some well
placed griping I actually got it back the next day. This was different
than the regular M/A that you called the number with all the sevens in
it.

These guys just gave you a problem number and asked if you had a box.
The FedEx guy would come pick it up if you called early enough in the
day or you could dorp it at any Fed Ex pack and ship.
No hokey pokey with a script monkey in Bombay.
Small stuff like bad PCMCIA cards, chargers and cables were just sent,
no questions asked, just return the bad one.
It was $300 a year but I seemed to have at least one call a year and
some were system boards, displays and keyboards. My wife used it and
it took a beating.
Personally I don't want a laptop, I like a wireless keyboard and a big
display. The system unit can be anywhere then. I am not a road
warrior.


I usually take my laptop with me if I am going to be out of town for
more than a couple of days, or if I am out of town for a client, because
there always is something that needs to be written or rewritten. But
mostly these days my old laptop serves as a houseguest computer. If I
ever buy another one, it might well be one of the more inexpensive
Apples. I like their ergonomics. Haven't checked out their country of
origin, though. If China, no.

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:45:51 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


wrote in message
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We really count on our systems here to earn a living. We take them
apart often, before they shut down. My SO's desktop is actually harder
than mine to clean as she is also a smoker. We also back up and
format, reload software on a regular basis, just as a precaution. Most
of our computers are dedicated to specific types of software/function
so only the play boxes get bogged down really, like this one.
(Satellite A-135)

You guys motivated me to take this laptop apart and clean it.
It's a three year old HP Pavilion zd8000 that has performed flawlessly since
I got it.

Anyway, I shut it down, carefully turned it upside down and removed all the
accessible screws. No way would it come apart. After several attempts, the
"leave well enough alone" buzzer went off in my head. I removed a couple of
covers (the ram bay and the harddrive bay), hooked up a little computer
vacuum gizmo that came with a hand-held Oreck vacuum cleaner and carefully
vacuumed whatever dust I could get to with the little brush.

Put the screws back in and decided to forget about it.

Eisboch

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00291986.pdf

Let's see if you can resist it.

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:45:51 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Put the screws back in and decided to forget about it.

Eisboch

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00291986.pdf

Let's see if you can resist it.

--Vic



Thanks a bunch.

I'll give it a shot someday when I have extra patience.

It's hard to believe that 30 something years ago I could take a Mod 28
Teletype machine completely apart, down to each individual part and then put
it back together and it would work.

Of course back then I could actually *see* what I was doing.

Eisboch

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:29:05 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:45:51 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Put the screws back in and decided to forget about it.

Eisboch

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00291986.pdf

Let's see if you can resist it.

Thanks a bunch.

I'll give it a shot someday when I have extra patience.

It's hard to believe that 30 something years ago I could take a Mod 28
Teletype machine completely apart, down to each individual part and then put
it back together and it would work.

Of course back then I could actually *see* what I was doing.

I was just going to say that.

Close work is not something I can do much of anymore without an
"assist".

On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 01:39:11 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:29:05 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:45:51 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Put the screws back in and decided to forget about it.

Eisboch

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00291986.pdf

Let's see if you can resist it.

Thanks a bunch.

I'll give it a shot someday when I have extra patience.

It's hard to believe that 30 something years ago I could take a Mod 28
Teletype machine completely apart, down to each individual part and then put
it back together and it would work.

Of course back then I could actually *see* what I was doing.

I was just going to say that.

Close work is not something I can do much of anymore without an
"assist".

I've got one of those big lighted magnifiers on an articulated arm,
and it works well, but it's clumsy.
Though I don't need glasses to drive, I've even considered Lasik for
the close stuff. Tired of using a magnifying glass and flashlight to
"read the fine print."
But I'm not there yet. There's just something about having somebody
cut my eyeballs that doesn't set right with me.

--Vic