On Nov 30, 7:31 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 06:49:12 -0500, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:22:34 -0500, HK wrote:

Yup, but my Thinkpad was manufactured in 2001, in the good old U.S.A. of
Mexico, or so it says on the sticker label on the back of it. It says
"Made by IBM...Manufactured in Mexico."

I imagine it is still packed with Asian chips.

Corn chips and salsa.

Speaking of corn chips and salsa, I have an addiction to baked
Tostitos and Newman's (or Imus Ranch) medium salsa. I have a slight
preference for the Imus Ranch salsa, but I also like the Newman's.

I can plow through a bag and a jar in nothing flat.

(Amazing how these threads can turn on a dime huh?)

I like homemade salsa the best. Jarred is no comparison to fresh.

On Nov 29, 3:57 pm, wrote:
I really like Toshiba laptops. I'm on my second one, the
first is still running just fine for my daughter.
On Thu, 29 Nov, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:
I have been loyal to them ever since I desk tested a few in the
woodshop about a decade ago.. They are unstopable...

They don't last long when you drop 'em in salt water.

I'm shocked!

Please don't ask me how I know.

Rick

Hehe!!

On Nov 29, 3:48 pm, wrote:
On Nov 29, 3:34 pm, wrote:





On Nov 29, 8:59 am, wrote:

On Nov 29, 8:55 am, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:44 am, HK wrote:
Well, I am taking the plunge.
I am updating my old IBM T23 laptop from Win2k to WINXP Pro.
It's a great little laptop, though technology long passed it by, and at
the moment it only has 384KB of memory. If the update "takes," I'll
update the RAM to 512KB.

This is the machine I let household guests use.

Gosh, if it works out, I'll be as up to date OS-wise as the great
computer gurus here.

Yeah, that's a problem. Someone changes a harddrive, or installs
windows and they think they are a CNE.. We go in and clean up their
messes, all the time

Hopefully, it won't be a problem. I repartioned the single hard drive
and am reformatting it to get rid of all traces of the old OS. There's
an active mailing list for the IBM (now Lenovo) portables, and the gurus
there said I should be able to do the OS upgrade with minimal hassle.
The only worry I have is being able to find all the device drivers, but
I was assured that won't be a serious issue. We shall see. I also have a
master driver CD around somewhere...

Though I like the IBM portables, this is my last, since the new owner of
"Thinkpads" is now a mainland Chinese company.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I always end up back with Toshiba, and I use mine in the shop! Going
to XP you should have few driver problems. The only poblem we are
having is some of the drivers want to see "C" as the boot drive, and
we have Vista there...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Same here, I really like Toshiba laptops. I'm on my second one, the
first is still running just fine for my daughter.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have been loyal to them ever since I desk tested a few in the
woodshop about a decade ago.. They are unstopable...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My first one did have a keyboard failure after it was forced to drink
a cup of coffee. But, it was a $57.00 fix including the keyboard!!!!

On Nov 30, 12:55 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:47:43 -0500, HK wrote:
I like newman's tomato sauces. Not much of a salsa fan.

I think the best salsa is what you make yourself from fresh peppers,
onions and tomatoes. That bottled stuff always tasted like ketchup and
chili powder to me.

I agree. The stuff in jars is full of salt for flavor, instead of the
flavor of fresh veggies, and it's pulverized into a slurry!

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On Nov 29, 12:06 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 07, HK wrote:
If the update "takes," I'll update the RAM to 512KB.

Let us know how you come out.
I have a desktop with twice that much RAM but somehow I thought XP
required more. If yours works, I might give XP Home a shot on my spare
desktop.
Can anybody suggest a reliable online source that supplies legitimate
XP Home OS at a reasonable price?

Rick

XP Pro runs on 384KB. I haven't installed any software yet, but the OS
certainly runs properly.

Microsoft says 64 MB minimum, not KB.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...g/sysreqs.mspx


Actually doubt that you can run anything with 64mb. I had a system with 128
mb and with Norton running (resource hog) the system would lockup lots of
the time. You could run XP, but any other program you tried to run under XP
may kill the system.

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On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:22:34 -0500, HK wrote:

Yup, but my Thinkpad was manufactured in 2001, in the good old U.S.A. of
Mexico, or so it says on the sticker label on the back of it. It says
"Made by IBM...Manufactured in Mexico."

I imagine it is still packed with Asian chips.

Lots of those Asian / Philippine chips are made in America. The wafers are
made here and tested and shipped overseas for assembly and the final
assembly point gets the made in sticker.

LoogyPicker wrote
Microsoft says 64 MB minimum, not KB.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...g/sysreqs.mspx

On Fri, 30 Nov 07, "Calif Bill" wrote:
Actually doubt that you can run anything with 64mb. I had a system with 128
mb and with Norton running (resource hog) the system would lockup lots of
the time. You could run XP, but any other program you tried to run under XP
may kill the system.

What happens if processor clock speed isn't quite up to
recommendation? I would think it might simply run slower but... I have
no clue. Anybody?
I have an AMD Athlon XP sticker on the front of the desktop box but no
idea what the clock speed is. Will it be stamped on the processor
itself?

TIA,
Rick

On Nov 29, 5:09 pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
wrote in message

...





On Nov 29, 3:34 pm, wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:59 am, wrote:

On Nov 29, 8:55 am, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:44 am, HK wrote:
Well, I am taking the plunge.
I am updating my old IBM T23 laptop from Win2k to WINXP Pro.
It's a great little laptop, though technology long passed it by,
and at
the moment it only has 384KB of memory. If the update "takes,"
I'll
update the RAM to 512KB.

This is the machine I let household guests use.

Gosh, if it works out, I'll be as up to date OS-wise as the great
computer gurus here.

Yeah, that's a problem. Someone changes a harddrive, or installs
windows and they think they are a CNE.. We go in and clean up their
messes, all the time

Hopefully, it won't be a problem. I repartioned the single hard drive
and am reformatting it to get rid of all traces of the old OS.
There's
an active mailing list for the IBM (now Lenovo) portables, and the
gurus
there said I should be able to do the OS upgrade with minimal hassle.
The only worry I have is being able to find all the device drivers,
but
I was assured that won't be a serious issue. We shall see. I also
have a
master driver CD around somewhere...

Though I like the IBM portables, this is my last, since the new owner
of
"Thinkpads" is now a mainland Chinese company.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I always end up back with Toshiba, and I use mine in the shop! Going
to XP you should have few driver problems. The only poblem we are
having is some of the drivers want to see "C" as the boot drive, and
we have Vista there...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Same here, I really like Toshiba laptops. I'm on my second one, the
first is still running just fine for my daughter.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have been loyal to them ever since I desk tested a few in the
woodshop about a decade ago.. They are unstopable...

They are not unstoppable. Just let dust get into the cooling system and
they do stop. Taking them apart to clean them up is real joy. Been there,
done that.

How do you keep the dust of the air ducts?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Take them apart I have a pretty cool shop, I can do almost anything
there... The last one had an epoxy plug that I fabricated to fit in
the power button hole, when the button disintegrated. I did have one
about 4 years ago that had a lot of recalls so I tried HP last time
around.. I was back at the electronics store begging after about two
months and three seperate shipping charges to send it out for service,
Best Buy (our favorite) finally agreed with me and just traded me for
a new toshiba... I will never stray again, although that Panasonic
work site model looks pretty cool...

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:29:31 -0600, lid wrote:

LoogyPicker wrote
Microsoft says 64 MB minimum, not KB.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...g/sysreqs.mspx

On Fri, 30 Nov 07, "Calif Bill" wrote:
Actually doubt that you can run anything with 64mb. I had a system with 128
mb and with Norton running (resource hog) the system would lockup lots of
the time. You could run XP, but any other program you tried to run under XP
may kill the system.

What happens if processor clock speed isn't quite up to
recommendation? I would think it might simply run slower but... I have
no clue. Anybody?
I have an AMD Athlon XP sticker on the front of the desktop box but no
idea what the clock speed is. Will it be stamped on the processor
itself?

Try this
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

On Nov 30, 10:07 am, wrote:
On Nov 29, 3:48 pm, wrote:





On Nov 29, 3:34 pm, wrote:

On Nov 29, 8:59 am, wrote:

On Nov 29, 8:55 am, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:44 am, HK wrote:
Well, I am taking the plunge.
I am updating my old IBM T23 laptop from Win2k to WINXP Pro.
It's a great little laptop, though technology long passed it by, and at
the moment it only has 384KB of memory. If the update "takes," I'll
update the RAM to 512KB.

This is the machine I let household guests use.

Gosh, if it works out, I'll be as up to date OS-wise as the great
computer gurus here.

Yeah, that's a problem. Someone changes a harddrive, or installs
windows and they think they are a CNE.. We go in and clean up their
messes, all the time

Hopefully, it won't be a problem. I repartioned the single hard drive
and am reformatting it to get rid of all traces of the old OS. There's
an active mailing list for the IBM (now Lenovo) portables, and the gurus
there said I should be able to do the OS upgrade with minimal hassle.
The only worry I have is being able to find all the device drivers, but
I was assured that won't be a serious issue. We shall see. I also have a
master driver CD around somewhere...

Though I like the IBM portables, this is my last, since the new owner of
"Thinkpads" is now a mainland Chinese company.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I always end up back with Toshiba, and I use mine in the shop! Going
to XP you should have few driver problems. The only poblem we are
having is some of the drivers want to see "C" as the boot drive, and
we have Vista there...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Same here, I really like Toshiba laptops. I'm on my second one, the
first is still running just fine for my daughter.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have been loyal to them ever since I desk tested a few in the
woodshop about a decade ago.. They are unstopable...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My first one did have a keyboard failure after it was forced to drink
a cup of coffee. But, it was a $57.00 fix including the keyboard!!!!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I did the same thing to my first one, cost me 47