On Nov 29, 8:59 am, wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:55 am, HK wrote:





wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:44 am, HK wrote:
Well, I am taking the plunge.
I am updating my old IBM T23 laptop from Win2k to WINXP Pro.
It's a great little laptop, though technology long passed it by, and at
the moment it only has 384KB of memory. If the update "takes," I'll
update the RAM to 512KB.

This is the machine I let household guests use.

Gosh, if it works out, I'll be as up to date OS-wise as the great
computer gurus here.

Yeah, that's a problem. Someone changes a harddrive, or installs
windows and they think they are a CNE.. We go in and clean up their
messes, all the time

Hopefully, it won't be a problem. I repartioned the single hard drive
and am reformatting it to get rid of all traces of the old OS. There's
an active mailing list for the IBM (now Lenovo) portables, and the gurus
there said I should be able to do the OS upgrade with minimal hassle.
The only worry I have is being able to find all the device drivers, but
I was assured that won't be a serious issue. We shall see. I also have a
master driver CD around somewhere...

Though I like the IBM portables, this is my last, since the new owner of
"Thinkpads" is now a mainland Chinese company.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I always end up back with Toshiba, and I use mine in the shop! Going
to XP you should have few driver problems. The only poblem we are
having is some of the drivers want to see "C" as the boot drive, and
we have Vista there...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Same here, I really like Toshiba laptops. I'm on my second one, the
first is still running just fine for my daughter.

On Nov 29, 3:34 pm, wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:59 am, wrote:





On Nov 29, 8:55 am, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:44 am, HK wrote:
Well, I am taking the plunge.
I am updating my old IBM T23 laptop from Win2k to WINXP Pro.
It's a great little laptop, though technology long passed it by, and at
the moment it only has 384KB of memory. If the update "takes," I'll
update the RAM to 512KB.

This is the machine I let household guests use.

Gosh, if it works out, I'll be as up to date OS-wise as the great
computer gurus here.

Yeah, that's a problem. Someone changes a harddrive, or installs
windows and they think they are a CNE.. We go in and clean up their
messes, all the time

Hopefully, it won't be a problem. I repartioned the single hard drive
and am reformatting it to get rid of all traces of the old OS. There's
an active mailing list for the IBM (now Lenovo) portables, and the gurus
there said I should be able to do the OS upgrade with minimal hassle.
The only worry I have is being able to find all the device drivers, but
I was assured that won't be a serious issue. We shall see. I also have a
master driver CD around somewhere...

Though I like the IBM portables, this is my last, since the new owner of
"Thinkpads" is now a mainland Chinese company.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I always end up back with Toshiba, and I use mine in the shop! Going
to XP you should have few driver problems. The only poblem we are
having is some of the drivers want to see "C" as the boot drive, and
we have Vista there...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Same here, I really like Toshiba laptops. I'm on my second one, the
first is still running just fine for my daughter.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have been loyal to them ever since I desk tested a few in the
woodshop about a decade ago.. They are unstopable...

I really like Toshiba laptops. I'm on my second one, the
first is still running just fine for my daughter.

On Thu, 29 Nov, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:
I have been loyal to them ever since I desk tested a few in the
woodshop about a decade ago.. They are unstopable...

They don't last long when you drop 'em in salt water.
Please don't ask me how I know.

Rick

On Nov 29, 3:57 pm, wrote:
I really like Toshiba laptops. I'm on my second one, the
first is still running just fine for my daughter.
On Thu, 29 Nov, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:
I have been loyal to them ever since I desk tested a few in the
woodshop about a decade ago.. They are unstopable...

They don't last long when you drop 'em in salt water.

I'm shocked!

Please don't ask me how I know.

Rick

Hehe!!

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On Nov 29, 3:34 pm, wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:59 am, wrote:





On Nov 29, 8:55 am, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:44 am, HK wrote:
Well, I am taking the plunge.
I am updating my old IBM T23 laptop from Win2k to WINXP Pro.
It's a great little laptop, though technology long passed it by,
and at
the moment it only has 384KB of memory. If the update "takes,"
I'll
update the RAM to 512KB.

This is the machine I let household guests use.

Gosh, if it works out, I'll be as up to date OS-wise as the great
computer gurus here.

Yeah, that's a problem. Someone changes a harddrive, or installs
windows and they think they are a CNE.. We go in and clean up their
messes, all the time

Hopefully, it won't be a problem. I repartioned the single hard drive
and am reformatting it to get rid of all traces of the old OS.
There's
an active mailing list for the IBM (now Lenovo) portables, and the
gurus
there said I should be able to do the OS upgrade with minimal hassle.
The only worry I have is being able to find all the device drivers,
but
I was assured that won't be a serious issue. We shall see. I also
have a
master driver CD around somewhere...

Though I like the IBM portables, this is my last, since the new owner
of
"Thinkpads" is now a mainland Chinese company.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I always end up back with Toshiba, and I use mine in the shop! Going
to XP you should have few driver problems. The only poblem we are
having is some of the drivers want to see "C" as the boot drive, and
we have Vista there...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Same here, I really like Toshiba laptops. I'm on my second one, the
first is still running just fine for my daughter.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have been loyal to them ever since I desk tested a few in the
woodshop about a decade ago.. They are unstopable...

They are not unstoppable. Just let dust get into the cooling system and
they do stop. Taking them apart to clean them up is real joy. Been there,
done that.

How do you keep the dust of the air ducts?

On Nov 29, 5:09 pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
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On Nov 29, 3:34 pm, wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:59 am, wrote:

On Nov 29, 8:55 am, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:44 am, HK wrote:
Well, I am taking the plunge.
I am updating my old IBM T23 laptop from Win2k to WINXP Pro.
It's a great little laptop, though technology long passed it by,
and at
the moment it only has 384KB of memory. If the update "takes,"
I'll
update the RAM to 512KB.

This is the machine I let household guests use.

Gosh, if it works out, I'll be as up to date OS-wise as the great
computer gurus here.

Yeah, that's a problem. Someone changes a harddrive, or installs
windows and they think they are a CNE.. We go in and clean up their
messes, all the time

Hopefully, it won't be a problem. I repartioned the single hard drive
and am reformatting it to get rid of all traces of the old OS.
There's
an active mailing list for the IBM (now Lenovo) portables, and the
gurus
there said I should be able to do the OS upgrade with minimal hassle.
The only worry I have is being able to find all the device drivers,
but
I was assured that won't be a serious issue. We shall see. I also
have a
master driver CD around somewhere...

Though I like the IBM portables, this is my last, since the new owner
of
"Thinkpads" is now a mainland Chinese company.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I always end up back with Toshiba, and I use mine in the shop! Going
to XP you should have few driver problems. The only poblem we are
having is some of the drivers want to see "C" as the boot drive, and
we have Vista there...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Same here, I really like Toshiba laptops. I'm on my second one, the
first is still running just fine for my daughter.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have been loyal to them ever since I desk tested a few in the
woodshop about a decade ago.. They are unstopable...

They are not unstoppable. Just let dust get into the cooling system and
they do stop. Taking them apart to clean them up is real joy. Been there,
done that.

How do you keep the dust of the air ducts?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Take them apart I have a pretty cool shop, I can do almost anything
there... The last one had an epoxy plug that I fabricated to fit in
the power button hole, when the button disintegrated. I did have one
about 4 years ago that had a lot of recalls so I tried HP last time
around.. I was back at the electronics store begging after about two
months and three seperate shipping charges to send it out for service,
Best Buy (our favorite) finally agreed with me and just traded me for
a new toshiba... I will never stray again, although that Panasonic
work site model looks pretty cool...

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On Nov 29, 3:34 pm, wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:59 am, wrote:

On Nov 29, 8:55 am, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:44 am, HK wrote:
Well, I am taking the plunge.
I am updating my old IBM T23 laptop from Win2k to WINXP Pro.
It's a great little laptop, though technology long passed it
by,
and at
the moment it only has 384KB of memory. If the update "takes,"
I'll
update the RAM to 512KB.

This is the machine I let household guests use.

Gosh, if it works out, I'll be as up to date OS-wise as the
great
computer gurus here.

Yeah, that's a problem. Someone changes a harddrive, or installs
windows and they think they are a CNE.. We go in and clean up
their
messes, all the time

Hopefully, it won't be a problem. I repartioned the single hard
drive
and am reformatting it to get rid of all traces of the old OS.
There's
an active mailing list for the IBM (now Lenovo) portables, and the
gurus
there said I should be able to do the OS upgrade with minimal
hassle.
The only worry I have is being able to find all the device
drivers,
but
I was assured that won't be a serious issue. We shall see. I also
have a
master driver CD around somewhere...

Though I like the IBM portables, this is my last, since the new
owner
of
"Thinkpads" is now a mainland Chinese company.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I always end up back with Toshiba, and I use mine in the shop! Going
to XP you should have few driver problems. The only poblem we are
having is some of the drivers want to see "C" as the boot drive, and
we have Vista there...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Same here, I really like Toshiba laptops. I'm on my second one, the
first is still running just fine for my daughter.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have been loyal to them ever since I desk tested a few in the
woodshop about a decade ago.. They are unstopable...

They are not unstoppable. Just let dust get into the cooling system and
they do stop. Taking them apart to clean them up is real joy. Been
there,
done that.

How do you keep the dust of the air ducts?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Take them apart I have a pretty cool shop, I can do almost anything
there... The last one had an epoxy plug that I fabricated to fit in
the power button hole, when the button disintegrated. I did have one
about 4 years ago that had a lot of recalls so I tried HP last time
around.. I was back at the electronics store begging after about two
months and three seperate shipping charges to send it out for service,
Best Buy (our favorite) finally agreed with me and just traded me for
a new toshiba... I will never stray again, although that Panasonic
work site model looks pretty cool...

What precautions do you take to keep dust, grit, etc out of the cooling
system?

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On Nov 29, 5:09 pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
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On Nov 29, 3:34 pm, wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:59 am, wrote:

On Nov 29, 8:55 am, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:44 am, HK wrote:
Well, I am taking the plunge.
I am updating my old IBM T23 laptop from Win2k to WINXP Pro.
It's a great little laptop, though technology long passed it
by,
and at
the moment it only has 384KB of memory. If the update "takes,"
I'll
update the RAM to 512KB.

This is the machine I let household guests use.

Gosh, if it works out, I'll be as up to date OS-wise as the
great
computer gurus here.

Yeah, that's a problem. Someone changes a harddrive, or installs
windows and they think they are a CNE.. We go in and clean up
their
messes, all the time

Hopefully, it won't be a problem. I repartioned the single hard
drive
and am reformatting it to get rid of all traces of the old OS.
There's
an active mailing list for the IBM (now Lenovo) portables, and the
gurus
there said I should be able to do the OS upgrade with minimal
hassle.
The only worry I have is being able to find all the device
drivers,
but
I was assured that won't be a serious issue. We shall see. I also
have a
master driver CD around somewhere...

Though I like the IBM portables, this is my last, since the new
owner
of
"Thinkpads" is now a mainland Chinese company.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I always end up back with Toshiba, and I use mine in the shop! Going
to XP you should have few driver problems. The only poblem we are
having is some of the drivers want to see "C" as the boot drive, and
we have Vista there...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Same here, I really like Toshiba laptops. I'm on my second one, the
first is still running just fine for my daughter.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have been loyal to them ever since I desk tested a few in the
woodshop about a decade ago.. They are unstopable...

They are not unstoppable. Just let dust get into the cooling system and
they do stop. Taking them apart to clean them up is real joy. Been
there,
done that.

How do you keep the dust of the air ducts?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Take them apart I have a pretty cool shop, I can do almost anything
there... The last one had an epoxy plug that I fabricated to fit in
the power button hole, when the button disintegrated. I did have one
about 4 years ago that had a lot of recalls so I tried HP last time
around.. I was back at the electronics store begging after about two
months and three seperate shipping charges to send it out for service,
Best Buy (our favorite) finally agreed with me and just traded me for
a new toshiba... I will never stray again, although that Panasonic
work site model looks pretty cool...

What precautions do you take to keep dust, grit, etc out of the cooling
system?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Compressed air, and a screwdriver... I just take them apart when they
get dirty. This one has not been in the woodshop yet..

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On Nov 30, 5:09 pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
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On Nov 29, 5:09 pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
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On Nov 29, 3:34 pm, wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:59 am, wrote:

On Nov 29, 8:55 am, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:44 am, HK wrote:
Well, I am taking the plunge.
I am updating my old IBM T23 laptop from Win2k to WINXP Pro.
It's a great little laptop, though technology long passed it
by,
and at
the moment it only has 384KB of memory. If the update
"takes,"
I'll
update the RAM to 512KB.

This is the machine I let household guests use.

Gosh, if it works out, I'll be as up to date OS-wise as the
great
computer gurus here.

Yeah, that's a problem. Someone changes a harddrive, or
installs
windows and they think they are a CNE.. We go in and clean up
their
messes, all the time

Hopefully, it won't be a problem. I repartioned the single hard
drive
and am reformatting it to get rid of all traces of the old OS.
There's
an active mailing list for the IBM (now Lenovo) portables, and
the
gurus
there said I should be able to do the OS upgrade with minimal
hassle.
The only worry I have is being able to find all the device
drivers,
but
I was assured that won't be a serious issue. We shall see. I
also
have a
master driver CD around somewhere...

Though I like the IBM portables, this is my last, since the new
owner
of
"Thinkpads" is now a mainland Chinese company.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

I always end up back with Toshiba, and I use mine in the shop!
Going
to XP you should have few driver problems. The only poblem we are
having is some of the drivers want to see "C" as the boot drive,
and
we have Vista there...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Same here, I really like Toshiba laptops. I'm on my second one, the
first is still running just fine for my daughter.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

I have been loyal to them ever since I desk tested a few in the
woodshop about a decade ago.. They are unstopable...

They are not unstoppable. Just let dust get into the cooling system
and
they do stop. Taking them apart to clean them up is real joy. Been
there,
done that.

How do you keep the dust of the air ducts?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Take them apart I have a pretty cool shop, I can do almost anything
there... The last one had an epoxy plug that I fabricated to fit in
the power button hole, when the button disintegrated. I did have one
about 4 years ago that had a lot of recalls so I tried HP last time
around.. I was back at the electronics store begging after about two
months and three seperate shipping charges to send it out for service,
Best Buy (our favorite) finally agreed with me and just traded me for
a new toshiba... I will never stray again, although that Panasonic
work site model looks pretty cool...

What precautions do you take to keep dust, grit, etc out of the cooling
system?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Compressed air, and a screwdriver... I just take them apart when they
get dirty. This one has not been in the woodshop yet..

In other words you do nothing until it starts shutting down due to
overheating? If you use compressed air applied to the unassembled case,
assuming your assembly is like mine, I think all you'd do is blow crap into
the cooling assembly.

Look at the photo associated with Step 23. That's a pretty good view of the
cooling system on my Toshiba. On my unit, A75 it's a major disassembly
project to get at the cooling stuff.

http://www.irisvista.com/tech/laptop...5/satA75_3.htm

The first time I took mine apart, not a job I relish, it was really plugged.
Took more than compressed air to get it clean. Lots of picking and prodding
to loosen accumulated crud.

After the first disassembly/reassembly I ended up with a "very" sensitive Z
key, to the extent that if you just nudged the laptop the Z would activate
and keep repeating. I was very careful but still ended up with that
problem. Nothing that 50 bux and a new keyboard didn't fix.

On Nov 29, 3:48 pm, wrote:
On Nov 29, 3:34 pm, wrote:





On Nov 29, 8:59 am, wrote:

On Nov 29, 8:55 am, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Nov 29, 8:44 am, HK wrote:
Well, I am taking the plunge.
I am updating my old IBM T23 laptop from Win2k to WINXP Pro.
It's a great little laptop, though technology long passed it by, and at
the moment it only has 384KB of memory. If the update "takes," I'll
update the RAM to 512KB.

This is the machine I let household guests use.

Gosh, if it works out, I'll be as up to date OS-wise as the great
computer gurus here.

Yeah, that's a problem. Someone changes a harddrive, or installs
windows and they think they are a CNE.. We go in and clean up their
messes, all the time

Hopefully, it won't be a problem. I repartioned the single hard drive
and am reformatting it to get rid of all traces of the old OS. There's
an active mailing list for the IBM (now Lenovo) portables, and the gurus
there said I should be able to do the OS upgrade with minimal hassle.
The only worry I have is being able to find all the device drivers, but
I was assured that won't be a serious issue. We shall see. I also have a
master driver CD around somewhere...

Though I like the IBM portables, this is my last, since the new owner of
"Thinkpads" is now a mainland Chinese company.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I always end up back with Toshiba, and I use mine in the shop! Going
to XP you should have few driver problems. The only poblem we are
having is some of the drivers want to see "C" as the boot drive, and
we have Vista there...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Same here, I really like Toshiba laptops. I'm on my second one, the
first is still running just fine for my daughter.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have been loyal to them ever since I desk tested a few in the
woodshop about a decade ago.. They are unstopable...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My first one did have a keyboard failure after it was forced to drink
a cup of coffee. But, it was a $57.00 fix including the keyboard!!!!