Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I've been told by a number of electricians and plumbers that the
Union
training programs create false expectations in terms of both
wage and
real world conditions.

Employers, students, the labor dept, and hopefully the Unions
themselves have been very disappointed with the effectiveness of
the Job Corp to provide proper training or job placement for grads.


You really are an ignorant a**hole, Reggie. In the construction
trades, the purpose of the job corps is to provide unskilled,
undisciplined kids with a few decent life skills and preliminary
job skills so they know the importance of showing up for work on
time, sober, and with an attitude conducive to work. The job corps
provides pre-apprenticeship training, and a bit of a taste of the
sort of skills they'll be learning.

Do you actually know anything about anything, or is your knowledge
base built entirely upon what you google?

One summer working at McDonald's or Burger King will teach than
those basic job skills.


Is that how you got into the marines?

Obviously, the job corps is another subject about which you know
nothing.

Harry,
Have you noticed that you are the only person in rec.boats who knows
what they are talking about. SWS,Eisboch and everyone else in here
is dumb as dirt and right wing idiots who ignore all science.



I doubt SWS, Eisboch, or you have ever had any significant direct
experience working with job corps instructors, programs, or students.
Three of my long-time union clients have been involved with various
job corps programs for decades, and I have been a frequent visitor to
their training schools, and have kept in touch over the years with a
couple of job corps grads who went on to complete a full union
apprenticeship program.

I've never referred to Eisboch or SWS as right-wing idiots or dumb as
dirt, nor have I entertained any thoughts at any time that they were.

Didn't you say that Eisboch and SWS refused to listen to science and
only the right wing seem to do that?


No, Reggie, I never posted that. But I'm sure we all appreciate your
efforts at demonization, a**hole that you are.

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I've been told by a number of electricians and plumbers that
the Union
training programs create false expectations in terms of both
wage and
real world conditions.

Employers, students, the labor dept, and hopefully the Unions
themselves have been very disappointed with the effectiveness of
the Job Corp to provide proper training or job placement for grads.


You really are an ignorant a**hole, Reggie. In the construction
trades, the purpose of the job corps is to provide unskilled,
undisciplined kids with a few decent life skills and preliminary
job skills so they know the importance of showing up for work on
time, sober, and with an attitude conducive to work. The job
corps provides pre-apprenticeship training, and a bit of a taste
of the sort of skills they'll be learning.

Do you actually know anything about anything, or is your
knowledge base built entirely upon what you google?

One summer working at McDonald's or Burger King will teach than
those basic job skills.


Is that how you got into the marines?

Obviously, the job corps is another subject about which you know
nothing.

Harry,
Have you noticed that you are the only person in rec.boats who knows
what they are talking about. SWS,Eisboch and everyone else in here
is dumb as dirt and right wing idiots who ignore all science.



I doubt SWS, Eisboch, or you have ever had any significant direct
experience working with job corps instructors, programs, or students.
Three of my long-time union clients have been involved with various
job corps programs for decades, and I have been a frequent visitor to
their training schools, and have kept in touch over the years with a
couple of job corps grads who went on to complete a full union
apprenticeship program.

I've never referred to Eisboch or SWS as right-wing idiots or dumb as
dirt, nor have I entertained any thoughts at any time that they were.

Didn't you say that Eisboch and SWS refused to listen to science and
only the right wing seem to do that?


No, Reggie, I never posted that. But I'm sure we all appreciate your
efforts at demonization, a**hole that you are.

Harry won't challenge either SWS or Eisboch, Harry knows he would loose.

On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 17:35:08 -0500, BAR wrote:

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I've been told by a number of electricians and plumbers that
the Union
training programs create false expectations in terms of both
wage and
real world conditions.

Employers, students, the labor dept, and hopefully the Unions
themselves have been very disappointed with the effectiveness of
the Job Corp to provide proper training or job placement for grads.


You really are an ignorant a**hole, Reggie. In the construction
trades, the purpose of the job corps is to provide unskilled,
undisciplined kids with a few decent life skills and preliminary
job skills so they know the importance of showing up for work on
time, sober, and with an attitude conducive to work. The job
corps provides pre-apprenticeship training, and a bit of a taste
of the sort of skills they'll be learning.

Do you actually know anything about anything, or is your
knowledge base built entirely upon what you google?

One summer working at McDonald's or Burger King will teach than
those basic job skills.


Is that how you got into the marines?

Obviously, the job corps is another subject about which you know
nothing.

Harry,
Have you noticed that you are the only person in rec.boats who knows
what they are talking about. SWS,Eisboch and everyone else in here
is dumb as dirt and right wing idiots who ignore all science.



I doubt SWS, Eisboch, or you have ever had any significant direct
experience working with job corps instructors, programs, or students.
Three of my long-time union clients have been involved with various
job corps programs for decades, and I have been a frequent visitor to
their training schools, and have kept in touch over the years with a
couple of job corps grads who went on to complete a full union
apprenticeship program.

I've never referred to Eisboch or SWS as right-wing idiots or dumb as
dirt, nor have I entertained any thoughts at any time that they were.

Didn't you say that Eisboch and SWS refused to listen to science and
only the right wing seem to do that?


No, Reggie, I never posted that. But I'm sure we all appreciate your
efforts at demonization, a**hole that you are.

Harry won't challenge either SWS or Eisboch, Harry knows he would loose.

Harry loses no matter who he challenges. SWS and Eisboch are patient souls.
--
John H

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 17:35:08 -0500, BAR wrote:

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I've been told by a number of electricians and plumbers that
the Union
training programs create false expectations in terms of both
wage and
real world conditions.

Employers, students, the labor dept, and hopefully the Unions
themselves have been very disappointed with the effectiveness of
the Job Corp to provide proper training or job placement for
grads.


You really are an ignorant a**hole, Reggie. In the construction
trades, the purpose of the job corps is to provide unskilled,
undisciplined kids with a few decent life skills and preliminary
job skills so they know the importance of showing up for work on
time, sober, and with an attitude conducive to work. The job
corps provides pre-apprenticeship training, and a bit of a taste
of the sort of skills they'll be learning.

Do you actually know anything about anything, or is your
knowledge base built entirely upon what you google?

One summer working at McDonald's or Burger King will teach than
those basic job skills.


Is that how you got into the marines?

Obviously, the job corps is another subject about which you know
nothing.

Harry,
Have you noticed that you are the only person in rec.boats who knows
what they are talking about. SWS,Eisboch and everyone else in here
is dumb as dirt and right wing idiots who ignore all science.



I doubt SWS, Eisboch, or you have ever had any significant direct
experience working with job corps instructors, programs, or students.
Three of my long-time union clients have been involved with various
job corps programs for decades, and I have been a frequent visitor to
their training schools, and have kept in touch over the years with a
couple of job corps grads who went on to complete a full union
apprenticeship program.

I've never referred to Eisboch or SWS as right-wing idiots or dumb as
dirt, nor have I entertained any thoughts at any time that they were.

Didn't you say that Eisboch and SWS refused to listen to science and
only the right wing seem to do that?


No, Reggie, I never posted that. But I'm sure we all appreciate your
efforts at demonization, a**hole that you are.

Harry won't challenge either SWS or Eisboch, Harry knows he would loose.

Harry loses no matter who he challenges. SWS and Eisboch are patient
souls.
--
John H

Well well, I see you're back to your old 'facilliator' role...trying to stir
up trouble between peaceful members of this group.
John... you need more help than anyone in this newsgroup can offer. Go see
a professional before it's too late.

"BAR" wrote in message
...

Harry won't challenge either SWS or Eisboch, Harry knows he would loose.



Harry's loose again?

Eisboch

"BAR" wrote in message
...



Harry won't challenge either SWS or Eisboch, Harry knows he would loose.


I don't regard discussion of issues as a "challenge" or something to win or
lose. It's an exchange of views, sometimes heated, whereby your POV may
become modified or made more concrete.

I agree with him and others on many subjects and disagree with him and
others on other things.

I have the same relationship with many people, including myself sometimes.

If you engage in a discussion with the primary purpose of "winning" .... you
lose.

Eisboch

On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:55:16 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"BAR" wrote in message
...



Harry won't challenge either SWS or Eisboch, Harry knows he would loose.


I don't regard discussion of issues as a "challenge" or something to win or
lose. It's an exchange of views, sometimes heated, whereby your POV may
become modified or made more concrete.

I agree with him and others on many subjects and disagree with him and
others on other things.

I have the same relationship with many people, including myself sometimes.

If you engage in a discussion with the primary purpose of "winning" .... you
lose.

Amen.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:55:16 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
...


Harry won't challenge either SWS or Eisboch, Harry knows he would loose.

I don't regard discussion of issues as a "challenge" or something to win or
lose. It's an exchange of views, sometimes heated, whereby your POV may
become modified or made more concrete.

I agree with him and others on many subjects and disagree with him and
others on other things.

I have the same relationship with many people, including myself sometimes.

If you engage in a discussion with the primary purpose of "winning" .... you
lose.

Amen.


I hear your transom sags more than mine.

On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:08:16 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:55:16 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
...


Harry won't challenge either SWS or Eisboch, Harry knows he would loose.

I don't regard discussion of issues as a "challenge" or something to win or
lose. It's an exchange of views, sometimes heated, whereby your POV may
become modified or made more concrete.

I agree with him and others on many subjects and disagree with him and
others on other things.

I have the same relationship with many people, including myself sometimes.

If you engage in a discussion with the primary purpose of "winning" .... you
lose.

Amen.

I hear your transom sags more than mine.

My transom doesn't sag.

It's artfully arranged.

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:05:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:55:16 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"BAR" wrote in message
...



Harry won't challenge either SWS or Eisboch, Harry knows he would loose.


I don't regard discussion of issues as a "challenge" or something to win or
lose. It's an exchange of views, sometimes heated, whereby your POV may
become modified or made more concrete.

I agree with him and others on many subjects and disagree with him and
others on other things.

I have the same relationship with many people, including myself sometimes.

If you engage in a discussion with the primary purpose of "winning" .... you
lose.

Amen.

It might help that he doesn't call you guys names with every other post.
--
John H