Lord thunderin' Jesus......
what a hassle over a $500.00 used boat trailer.
After having two inspections done... one federal and the other provincial..
and the form being faxed four times to the Registar of Imported Vehicles....
I received a letter today threatening me with a $2K fine and six months in
jail if I didn't send the trailer back to the US.

problems...
...the original form had a 'best before date ' of Oct 19 and by the time the
3rd & 4th copies were faxed... the due date was passed
...The mechanic put some kind of secret code to represent the date he did the
inspection.. not deciphrable by me or the gov't people
...mechanic didn't tick boxes or add info that referred to lights, tire
manufacturer, tire type max load rating or inflation pressure
This will be my 4th visit to the garage and the 5th fax sent.
#$$%%$^$%# gov't crap.
They could have at least told me the problems instead of just saying they
didn't have the form. Hell, I would have had it re-tested at another
Canadian Tire store.
Don't even ask me how hard it is to reach them by phone...............

On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:00:53 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

I received a letter today threatening me with a $2K fine and six months in
jail if I didn't send the trailer back to the US.

What ever happened to free trade? The damn thing was built to
American and Canadian standards - that sticker on the tongue has a
Canadian safety stamp on it I believe - whatever the approval agency
is in Canada.

Wow - good luck.

But I aint' taking it back. :)

However, if you wanted to resell the boat back to me for...say...$500?

I'll even make it $500 Canadian. :)

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Lord thunderin' Jesus......
what a hassle over a $500.00 used boat trailer.
After having two inspections done... one federal and the other
provincial.. and the form being faxed four times to the Registar of
Imported Vehicles....
I received a letter today threatening me with a $2K fine and six months in
jail if I didn't send the trailer back to the US.

problems...
..the original form had a 'best before date ' of Oct 19 and by the time
the 3rd & 4th copies were faxed... the due date was passed
..The mechanic put some kind of secret code to represent the date he did
the inspection.. not deciphrable by me or the gov't people
..mechanic didn't tick boxes or add info that referred to lights, tire
manufacturer, tire type max load rating or inflation pressure
This will be my 4th visit to the garage and the 5th fax sent.
#$$%%$^$%# gov't crap.
They could have at least told me the problems instead of just saying they
didn't have the form. Hell, I would have had it re-tested at another
Canadian Tire store.
Don't even ask me how hard it is to reach them by phone...............

So what did you do wrong? Me, I have 2 cars behind me now and not a single
unanticipated issue. In fact a friend is driving back with a Florida garage
kept BMW right now.

Me, went to local dealer, he quoted $38K for a 1 year old boat that he
states only has 2 hours on it. I can get a 2008 never been used for $22K
US. Going to see in January when GST drops, if I don't get too tempted to
do it sooner.

For boats, it is simple:

1) Do your research. For example make sure the boat manufacturer will
supply the Canadian coast guard tag. Maxim for example, $71 US to get it.
Another is if the motor is made in Japan, add 6.1% (duty) to your cost
calculations. Or alternatively you have to get some kind of marine
certification. But if a Merc made in Wisconsin, no duty. Almost every boat
is US/Can/MX made, but check anyway.

2) You have to buy it outright to get clear ownership. Get separate
receipts for motor, boat and trailer. Make sure it adds the same as your
total bill of sale.

3) Go to the border, pay the RIV the $209 or whatever. Pay GST (and PST if
your in a province that has it). In Alberta there is also a day in transit
license of $24.95 or something until you get real plates.

4) Get the trailer inspected, I shouldn't have much issues here as it is new
and identical to Canadian versions.

5) Get plates, get the numbers for the hull and go fishing. (in the spring
of course).

My guess though is at $500 you got something that is not seaworthy, a
trailer with bald tires and a severely rusted frame. Useful for parts at
best. Probably late with the paperwork too.

And as most boaters know, better to buy a good motor as no manufacturer
comes out to the lake to fix it.

"Canuck57" wrote in message
news:8V0Zi.194527$1y4.185067@pd7urf2no...



My guess though is at $500 you got something that is not seaworthy, a
trailer with bald tires and a severely rusted frame. Useful for parts at
best. Probably late with the paperwork too.

And as most boaters know, better to buy a good motor as no manufacturer
comes out to the lake to fix it.



Heh...heh....heh.... har...har...har .....

Eisboch

My guess though is at $500 you got something that is not seaworthy, a
trailer with bald tires and a severely rusted frame. Useful for parts at
best. Probably late with the paperwork too.

And as most boaters know, better to buy a good motor as no manufacturer
comes out to the lake to fix it.

Any guesses as to Tom's response? :)

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:00:53 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

I received a letter today threatening me with a $2K fine and six months in
jail if I didn't send the trailer back to the US.

What ever happened to free trade? The damn thing was built to
American and Canadian standards - that sticker on the tongue has a
Canadian safety stamp on it I believe - whatever the approval agency
is in Canada.

Wow - good luck.

But I aint' taking it back. :)

However, if you wanted to resell the boat back to me for...say...$500?

I'll even make it $500 Canadian. :)

I may pay you $500.00 just to take the trailer off my hands.
On the other hand, our country club jails probably wouldn't be a bad place
to spend a long cold damp winter.

"Canuck57" wrote in message
news:8V0Zi.194527$1y4.185067@pd7urf2no...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Lord thunderin' Jesus......
what a hassle over a $500.00 used boat trailer.
After having two inspections done... one federal and the other
provincial.. and the form being faxed four times to the Registar of
Imported Vehicles....
I received a letter today threatening me with a $2K fine and six months
in jail if I didn't send the trailer back to the US.

problems...
..the original form had a 'best before date ' of Oct 19 and by the time
the 3rd & 4th copies were faxed... the due date was passed
..The mechanic put some kind of secret code to represent the date he did
the inspection.. not deciphrable by me or the gov't people
..mechanic didn't tick boxes or add info that referred to lights, tire
manufacturer, tire type max load rating or inflation pressure
This will be my 4th visit to the garage and the 5th fax sent.
#$$%%$^$%# gov't crap.
They could have at least told me the problems instead of just saying they
didn't have the form. Hell, I would have had it re-tested at another
Canadian Tire store.
Don't even ask me how hard it is to reach them by phone...............

So what did you do wrong? Me, I have 2 cars behind me now and not a
single unanticipated issue. In fact a friend is driving back with a
Florida garage kept BMW right now.

Me, went to local dealer, he quoted $38K for a 1 year old boat that he
states only has 2 hours on it. I can get a 2008 never been used for $22K
US. Going to see in January when GST drops, if I don't get too tempted to
do it sooner.

For boats, it is simple:

1) Do your research. For example make sure the boat manufacturer will
supply the Canadian coast guard tag. Maxim for example, $71 US to get it.
Another is if the motor is made in Japan, add 6.1% (duty) to your cost
calculations. Or alternatively you have to get some kind of marine
certification. But if a Merc made in Wisconsin, no duty. Almost every
boat is US/Can/MX made, but check anyway.

2) You have to buy it outright to get clear ownership. Get separate
receipts for motor, boat and trailer. Make sure it adds the same as your
total bill of sale.

3) Go to the border, pay the RIV the $209 or whatever. Pay GST (and PST
if your in a province that has it). In Alberta there is also a day in
transit license of $24.95 or something until you get real plates.

4) Get the trailer inspected, I shouldn't have much issues here as it is
new and identical to Canadian versions.

5) Get plates, get the numbers for the hull and go fishing. (in the spring
of course).

My guess though is at $500 you got something that is not seaworthy, a
trailer with bald tires and a severely rusted frame. Useful for parts at
best. Probably late with the paperwork too.

And as most boaters know, better to buy a good motor as no manufacturer
comes out to the lake to fix it.

I did everything corectly and to the letter of the law. the boat trailer is
in 'like new' condition.... a 2005 galvanized model lovingly cared for by
its former owner.
My problem was an incompetent mechanic and bureaucratic bungling.

On Nov 9, 12:37 pm, "Canuck57" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

My guess though is at $500 you got something that is not seaworthy, a
trailer with bald tires and a severely rusted frame.

That would be a very crappy guess........
No cigar!

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
What ever happened to free trade? The damn thing was built to
American and Canadian standards - that sticker on the tongue has a
Canadian safety stamp on it I believe - whatever the approval agency
is in Canada.
snip...

Ever since our loonie topped the yankee dollah, more & more people are
shopping south of the border for what appears to be deals for us.
The difference in price of comparable new vehicles is quite large on favour
of the US.
It's almost as if the Canadian distributors think our dollar is still only
worth .66 US rather than 1.06.
People are starting to think there is a conspiracy to make it tough for
Canadians to pick up a deal stateside and import back to Canada.
Here's a new twist...
http://www.reportonbusiness.com/serv.../Business/home

Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
What ever happened to free trade? The damn thing was built to
American and Canadian standards - that sticker on the tongue has a
Canadian safety stamp on it I believe - whatever the approval agency
is in Canada.
snip...

Ever since our loonie topped the yankee dollah, more & more people are
shopping south of the border for what appears to be deals for us.
The difference in price of comparable new vehicles is quite large on favour
of the US.
It's almost as if the Canadian distributors think our dollar is still only
worth .66 US rather than 1.06.
People are starting to think there is a conspiracy to make it tough for
Canadians to pick up a deal stateside and import back to Canada.
Here's a new twist...
http://www.reportonbusiness.com/serv.../Business/home




Wait until the peso tops the Yanqui dollah...