"Don White" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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Diesels definitely make financial sense is if you are putting lots of
hours on the engines and plan on keeping the boat/car/truck for a long
time. They cost less in fuel and cost substantially less in maintenance
$/hrs of use, but you need the high usage to offset the initial cost.



Last May I decided I didn't need a big pickup truck anymore so I traded
in a '05 Ford 4x4 Superduty diesel F-350 crew cab for a '07 Ford Ranger
4x4 extended cab with a 4.0L gas engine.

The 325 hp diesel truck weighed over 7,000 lbs and got 17 mpg around town
and 19-20 mpg on the highway.

The Ranger, at about half the weight and with just over 200 hp gets
poorer mileage, in both around town and highway driving.

Eisboch

Yeah but... just think how cool you look sporting around town now. You
did get a red Ranger?


Of course not.

Eisboch

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 07:13:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
news
Diesels definitely make financial sense is if you are putting lots of
hours on the engines and plan on keeping the boat/car/truck for a long
time. They cost less in fuel and cost substantially less in maintenance
$/hrs of use, but you need the high usage to offset the initial cost.

Last May I decided I didn't need a big pickup truck anymore so I traded in
a
'05 Ford 4x4 Superduty diesel F-350 crew cab for a '07 Ford Ranger 4x4
extended cab with a 4.0L gas engine.

The 325 hp diesel truck weighed over 7,000 lbs and got 17 mpg around town
and 19-20 mpg on the highway.

The Ranger, at about half the weight and with just over 200 hp gets poorer
mileage, in both around town and highway driving.

If my 7.3 had not been totaled, I'd still be driving it.

This F-150 with the 5.4 Triton, 3.85 "tow" package sucks in gas milage
and in horsepower.

I hate it.

I could have told you that. I had an 99' expedition. Same vehicle and the
power and fuel consumption both sucked.

On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:49:38 -0800, Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Nov 5, 5:24?pm, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message

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On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:32:24 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

I've heard rumors of some small amount engaged in on the Pacific, but
have always been leery of same. Sort of like tostitos in Kansas.....

I guess I need to see your definition of 'sport fishing'.

You're not likely to be convinced but on the east coast it is commonly
meant to be "deep sea fishing", or going out off the continental shelf
to the "canyons". It takes a decent boat to go out there and back in
the windy conditions which frequently prevail.

Just my 2 cents worth.

I believe you. I just did not know what you East Coast snobs were referring
to.

Imagine this..........sport fishing in the Gulf, the Great Lakes, the
Pacific. Wow, how can I think such a thing exists.

Eh?

Shhh, Jim. Don't burst that bubble. Don't you know that a 15 knot
breeze on the E Coast blows 2-3 times as hard as anywhere else (and
according to some sources generates 11-foot breakers)? The sea itself
is particularly nasty, erratic, and unforgiving in the western
Atlantic, so only the manliest of men in the roughest, toughest hand
laid hulls inspected by "old guys" dare venture out? No boat suitable
for use on the E Coast could even be considered desirable on any other
body of water, and nothing built outside of Jersey or the Carolinas
has any business trying to tackle the world's most challenging boating
conditions. :-)

Welcome to the Dark Side.

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
news
Diesels definitely make financial sense is if you are putting lots of
hours on the engines and plan on keeping the boat/car/truck for a long
time. They cost less in fuel and cost substantially less in
maintenance $/hrs of use, but you need the high usage to offset the
initial cost.



Last May I decided I didn't need a big pickup truck anymore so I traded
in a '05 Ford 4x4 Superduty diesel F-350 crew cab for a '07 Ford Ranger
4x4 extended cab with a 4.0L gas engine.

The 325 hp diesel truck weighed over 7,000 lbs and got 17 mpg around
town and 19-20 mpg on the highway.

The Ranger, at about half the weight and with just over 200 hp gets
poorer mileage, in both around town and highway driving.

Eisboch

Yeah but... just think how cool you look sporting around town now. You
did get a red Ranger?


Of course not.

Eisboch


I see... you probably had to colour co-ordinate it to one of your trailers.
;-)

On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:01:18 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

There's a decent looking Carolina 28 docked across the marina from us.
I assume they are made somewhere around here.

They are built in Edenton.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Edento...i=map&ct=title

Thanks. We drove through Edenton the other day while we were out
exploring the area. Nice little town. There are boat builders hiding
behind every tree in this part of the world.

What kind of reputation do the Carolina's have around here?

On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:49:38 -0800, Chuck Gould
wrote:

I believe you. I just did not know what you East Coast snobs were referring
to.

Imagine this..........sport fishing in the Gulf, the Great Lakes, the
Pacific. Wow, how can I think such a thing exists.

Eh?

Shhh, Jim. Don't burst that bubble. Don't you know that a 15 knot
breeze on the E Coast blows 2-3 times as hard as anywhere else (and
according to some sources generates 11-foot breakers)? The sea itself
is particularly nasty, erratic, and unforgiving in the western
Atlantic, so only the manliest of men in the roughest, toughest hand
laid hulls inspected by "old guys" dare venture out? No boat suitable
for use on the E Coast could even be considered desirable on any other
body of water, and nothing built outside of Jersey or the Carolinas
has any business trying to tackle the world's most challenging boating
conditions. :-)

You have been in the NorthWet entirely to long, and Jim is just being
Eerie (again). I once had a business colleague from Indiana who was
always waxing poetic about his state. One day I told him that he was
no doubt correct, but that if I were to move to Indiana I'd want to be
in the mountains or along the sea shore. It took him a moment to get
my point. All that by way of saying that the great Pacific NorthWet
could meet those requirements easily, which means that they need to be
ammended - to include sunshine.

On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:21:03 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

According to Webster:

sport·fish·ing (spôrt'fi(sh'i(ng, spo-rt'-) pronunciation
n.

The sport of catching large salt water game fish using a rod and reel
and an offshore sportfishing type boat epitomized by those constructed
along the coastal regions of North and South Carolina.

Chuckle.

We are docked with about 50 of them right now and they're building a
bunch more right down the road.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:49:38 -0800, Chuck Gould
wrote:

I believe you. I just did not know what you East Coast snobs were referring
to.

Imagine this..........sport fishing in the Gulf, the Great Lakes, the
Pacific. Wow, how can I think such a thing exists.

Eh?
Shhh, Jim. Don't burst that bubble. Don't you know that a 15 knot
breeze on the E Coast blows 2-3 times as hard as anywhere else (and
according to some sources generates 11-foot breakers)? The sea itself
is particularly nasty, erratic, and unforgiving in the western
Atlantic, so only the manliest of men in the roughest, toughest hand
laid hulls inspected by "old guys" dare venture out? No boat suitable
for use on the E Coast could even be considered desirable on any other
body of water, and nothing built outside of Jersey or the Carolinas
has any business trying to tackle the world's most challenging boating
conditions. :-)

You have been in the NorthWet entirely to long, and Jim is just being
Eerie (again). I once had a business colleague from Indiana who was
always waxing poetic about his state. One day I told him that he was
no doubt correct, but that if I were to move to Indiana I'd want to be
in the mountains or along the sea shore. It took him a moment to get
my point. All that by way of saying that the great Pacific NorthWet
could meet those requirements easily, which means that they need to be
ammended - to include sunshine.




Indiana sucks. Big time. I have been to that state many times, and
concluded years ago it really had almost nothing to offer. The little
bit of shoreline it has along Lake Michigan incorporates several of the
crummiest cities in America.

There's hardly a worse place to be in the summer than in inland Indiana.

On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:17:16 -0500, Wayne.B penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:01:18 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:
|
|There's a decent looking Carolina 28 docked across the marina from us.
|I assume they are made somewhere around here.
|
|They are built in Edenton.
|http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Edento...i=map&ct=title
|
|Thanks. We drove through Edenton the other day while we were out
|exploring the area. Nice little town. There are boat builders hiding
|behind every tree in this part of the world.

I think there are 120 boat builders in NC.

|What kind of reputation do the Carolina's have around here?

They are, as far as I know, a pretty good boat. There aren't many of
them in my neck of the woods, but they have a good reputation.

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

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" JimH" ask wrote in message
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What is the towing capacity of your Ranger Don?

I was fooled on this. Was sure I saw 3500 lbs for the 2WD with 3.0 V6 and
automatic transmission.
When I got the truck and read the manual.. it was rated at 2480 lbs. This
was just enough for my 2330 trailer/sailboat combo.
The 6 hp Evinrude rode in the truck box.