Vista is CRAP... pure and simple. I tested it in alpha and beta, and when
that was done, all of my computers went back to XP.

In my office, we have 7 computers on a peer to peer network... all running
XP except one that was replaced recently, and came with Vista on it. That
vista computer is CONSTANTLY having problems accessing shares on the
network, such as a printer at another workstation. If you print during one
of these episodes, the thing runs like an old 286 for about 5 minutes until
it finally gives up, displaying an error message. Rebooting usually cures it
for a time. That system will get XP when I have some time to do it.

--Mike

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises, Windows
Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises, Windows
Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying Thursday that
it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating system, almost
double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of time at its
launch.

The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses,

Harry,
I guess if that just shows if you push Vista at the OEM side, that even a
dog like Vista can get out in the Marketplace. While the number of
copies of Vista is double that of XP, did you read that there were more
than double the number of computers sold?

JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow. It just
goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.

What did you think of Vista doubling the market share of Macs, now that is
REALLY impressive.

Mike wrote:
Vista is CRAP... pure and simple. I tested it in alpha and beta, and when
that was done, all of my computers went back to XP.

In my office, we have 7 computers on a peer to peer network... all running
XP except one that was replaced recently, and came with Vista on it. That
vista computer is CONSTANTLY having problems accessing shares on the
network, such as a printer at another workstation. If you print during one
of these episodes, the thing runs like an old 286 for about 5 minutes until
it finally gives up, displaying an error message. Rebooting usually cures it
for a time. That system will get XP when I have some time to do it.

--Mike


Sounds like you're the problem. I have no problems running any of the
printers here on my local VISTA network, which includes machines running
VISTA, XP and even Win2k. My wife's office is on the third floor, where
she runs XP and has a Brother laser printer. I can easily print on that
printer from my office, two floors away, and she can easily print on my
HP color laser printer.

There's always Network Magic if you can't figure out simple Windows
networking.

HK wrote:
Mike wrote:
Vista is CRAP... pure and simple. I tested it in alpha and beta, and
when that was done, all of my computers went back to XP.

In my office, we have 7 computers on a peer to peer network... all
running XP except one that was replaced recently, and came with Vista
on it. That vista computer is CONSTANTLY having problems accessing
shares on the network, such as a printer at another workstation. If
you print during one of these episodes, the thing runs like an old 286
for about 5 minutes until it finally gives up, displaying an error
message. Rebooting usually cures it for a time. That system will get
XP when I have some time to do it.

--Mike


Sounds like you're the problem. I have no problems running any of the
printers here on my local VISTA network, which includes machines running
VISTA, XP and even Win2k. My wife's office is on the third floor, where
she runs XP and has a Brother laser printer. I can easily print on that
printer from my office, two floors away, and she can easily print on my
HP color laser printer.

There's always Network Magic if you can't figure out simple Windows
networking.

On Saturday, I installed a new printer on a friend's new Vista laptop.
It would never print the last page of her documents. I thought it was a
problem with her formating in Office, but it seems to only want to print
out all pages on a hit or miss basis. I thought it might be a problem
with the wireless, but did not have the time to correct the problem.
She has a contract with Geek Squad and I told her to have them come over
and sort it out.

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Mike wrote:
Vista is CRAP... pure and simple. I tested it in alpha and beta, and
when that was done, all of my computers went back to XP.

In my office, we have 7 computers on a peer to peer network... all
running XP except one that was replaced recently, and came with Vista
on it. That vista computer is CONSTANTLY having problems accessing
shares on the network, such as a printer at another workstation. If
you print during one of these episodes, the thing runs like an old
286 for about 5 minutes until it finally gives up, displaying an
error message. Rebooting usually cures it for a time. That system
will get XP when I have some time to do it.

--Mike


Sounds like you're the problem. I have no problems running any of the
printers here on my local VISTA network, which includes machines
running VISTA, XP and even Win2k. My wife's office is on the third
floor, where she runs XP and has a Brother laser printer. I can easily
print on that printer from my office, two floors away, and she can
easily print on my HP color laser printer.

There's always Network Magic if you can't figure out simple Windows
networking.

On Saturday, I installed a new printer on a friend's new Vista laptop.
It would never print the last page of her documents. I thought it was a
problem with her formating in Office, but it seems to only want to print
out all pages on a hit or miss basis. I thought it might be a problem
with the wireless, but did not have the time to correct the problem. She
has a contract with Geek Squad and I told her to have them come over and
sort it out.


I had no idea you were a VISTA geek, skilled in connecting printers via
wireless networks.

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK wrote:

Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT


Sounds like a whole bunch of people will get screwed!

"HK" wrote in message . ..
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of
time at its launch.

In late July, Microsoft said it had hit the 60 million shipment mark
with Vista.

Microsoft had previously said that it had shipped 20 million copies of
Vista in its first month and 40 million copies of Vista in the first 100
days.

Microsoft credited Vista with helping it beat Wall Street expectations
and raise financial projections for the rest of the year. The company
reported revenue of US$13.76 billion for the first quarter ended Sept.
30, up 27 percent from the same quarter in 2006.

Revenue in its client segment, which includes all consumer versions of
Windows, was $4.14 billion, edging out the $4.11 billion in revenue from
the Microsoft Business Division where Office is produced.

CFO Chris Liddell credited strong sales in emerging markets, due in part
to anti-piracy and legalization programs there.

Client revenues, however, did not top those of the first calendar
quarter this year, when Vista was officially launched. Revenues at that
time were $5.32 billion.

Three-quarters of the copies sold of Vista were higher-priced 'premium'
versions, compared to 59 percent of the copies of Windows -- primarily
XP -- available a year ago.

The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses, as well as packaged copies of Vista sold
in stores or online.

It does exclude the tens of millions of Windows corporate volume
licenses. There, many enterprises continue to hold off on deploying
Vista, acknowledged CFO Chris Liddell, though he expects them to start
deploying it when Vista Service Pack 1's arrival in the first quarter of
next year.

Nevertheless, revenue from companies renewing their volume licenses for
Windows, which gives them the right to upgrade to Vista, was up 27 percent.

Other highlights from the statistics:

-- Unit sales of Windows Server's premium enterprise edition were up 35
percent year-over-year;

-- A release candidate for Windows Server 2008 has been downloaded more
than one million times in its first month;

-- Unit and revenue growth of SQL Server were both up more than 15 percent;

-- Halo 3 generated $330 million in revenue;

-- Xbox 360 console unit sales increased 90 percent, driven by a price
cut in August and Halo 3-related demand;

-- Client revenues, including those for Vista, are expected to grow
62-64 percent year-over-year in the current fiscal Q2, or 13-14 percent
excluding certain revenue deferrals in the prior year;

-- Microsoft Business Division revenues, including those for Office, are
expected to grow 15-16 percent in Q2 after normalizing for impact of
technology guarantees and pre-shipment deferrals in the prior year;

-- A beta version of Office Communications Server has been downloaded
80,000 times;

-- There are 10,000 customers in the Customer Technical Preview (CTP)
program for PerformancePoint Server, its new business intelligence offering.

Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db

D-unit wrote:


Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db


VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.

HK wrote:
D-unit wrote:


Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db


VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Harry,
You might be able to start a great business, selling computer that are
actually designed to run Vista. For only $1,000 more, you can have a
computer that will run Vista as fast as it will run Win XP. I love the
way you get the 3D windows in Vista, now that is one hell of a nice
feature.

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
D-unit wrote:


Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db


VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Harry,
You might be able to start a great business, selling computer that are
actually designed to run Vista. For only $1,000 more, you can have a
computer that will run Vista as fast as it will run Win XP. I love the
way you get the 3D windows in Vista, now that is one hell of a nice
feature.


Sorry, S.F.B., but I don't "get" 3D windows in vista because I don't use
them.

You obviously know nothing about VISTA and it shows. This is a good
newsgroup for you to get away with that.

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
D-unit wrote:


Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db


VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Harry,
You might be able to start a great business, selling computer that are
actually designed to run Vista. For only $1,000 more, you can have a
computer that will run Vista as fast as it will run Win XP. I love
the way you get the 3D windows in Vista, now that is one hell of a
nice feature.


Sorry, S.F.B., but I don't "get" 3D windows in vista because I don't use
them.

You obviously know nothing about VISTA and it shows. This is a good
newsgroup for you to get away with that.

Wow, you mean there is more to Vista, do tell. What are some of the
features you like best?