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Gil November 12th 07 06:44 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

D.Duck wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
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HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


I am very glad your son's computer is working well, he deserves it.

I am sure yours and Harry's success with Vista is representative of
everyone who has used Vista.

I am sure yours and Harry's success with Vista is due to your
superior computer skills.

I am also sure the only reason she/I or anyone has ever had a
problem installing any hardware on Vista is human error.

I am sure you know much more about computers than those who make
their living operating networks and reviewing computers and OS.

Did I miss anything?

Did you read any of the directions that might relate to the proper
set up of a printer?

I followed the directions that came with the printer, but the printer
install CD really made the entire install process a step by step
process, and it asked you for your version of Windows (included Vista
as an option) . When the printer started to have problems, I
followed the trouble shooting process using Vista help, it did not
have any solution available in the troubleshooting guide that was
appropriate to our problem. So, I updated Vista (it had already
installed all updates) double checked the printer driver (it had the
correct driver) then reinstalled the printer program and reinstalled
Office 2003.

At that point, it was still printing correctly only half the time, so
I printed out her resume by reversing the order of the print. She
had her resume printed, which was her immediate concern. I also
tried to print out a web page, it would not print the last page of
the web site. Her printer was working half the time, and told her
she really should take advantage of the service contract she had
already paid for. If they were not able to correct the problem, she
will let me know.



Did you check for a more recent printer driver?


That is what I meant when I said "doubled checked the printer driver". I
specially checked for the most recent printer driver, both on Windows
update and by visiting the mfg'ers site.

You might want to try this..simply delete the printer driver from the
computer. Remove the CD Rom from the comptuer that contains the driver.
Go and install the printer drive, and let the Vista choose it own
printer driver it has.

If that does not work, check the printer manual for compatable printer
driver and manually install the next older version of the driver.

Sorry you are having difficulty. Just remember, when Vista came out,
bunch of manufacturers was scrambling to get drivers working for Vista
and they may not have plugged in all the holes in the drivers.

Gil

p.s. I thought this was a boating topic newsgroup..not computers...

HK November 12th 07 06:48 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
Gil wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
JimH wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
message . ..

HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

HK wrote:

Mike wrote:

Vista is CRAP... pure and simple. I tested it in alpha and beta,
and when that was done, all of my computers went back to XP.

In my office, we have 7 computers on a peer to peer network...
all running XP except one that was replaced recently, and came
with Vista on it. That vista computer is CONSTANTLY having
problems accessing shares on the network, such as a printer at
another workstation. If you print during one of these episodes,
the thing runs like an old 286 for about 5 minutes until it
finally gives up, displaying an error message. Rebooting usually
cures it for a time. That system will get XP when I have some
time to do it.

--Mike

Sounds like you're the problem. I have no problems running any of
the printers here on my local VISTA network, which includes
machines running VISTA, XP and even Win2k. My wife's office is on
the third floor, where she runs XP and has a Brother laser
printer. I can easily print on that printer from my office, two
floors away, and she can easily print on my HP color laser printer.

There's always Network Magic if you can't figure out simple
Windows networking.

On Saturday, I installed a new printer on a friend's new Vista
laptop. It would never print the last page of her documents. I
thought it was a problem with her formating in Office, but it
seems to only want to print out all pages on a hit or miss basis.
I thought it might be a problem with the wireless, but did not
have the time to correct the problem. She has a contract with Geek
Squad and I told her to have them come over and sort it out.


I had no idea you were a VISTA geek, skilled in connecting printers
via wireless networks.

I am not, but have never had any problems connecting printers to
wireless or wired connections in the past.

If you really need to be a "Vista Geek" to install a printer, what
does it say about Vista?


If you have to advise someone to call the "Geek Squad" to fix a
computer problem what does it say about your knowledge about computers?


She had already paid for the Geek Squad" program to fix any computer
problem for free, and hopefully they would be able to fix and
identify if the problem was a hardware or software problem quicker
than I could. If it really was a software problem, that this would be
the first time in 20 years (and probably more than 20 printers) that I
was not able easily install a printer.

ANYONE should be able to easily install a printer, without any
problems. That fact that this was a problem, verifies why the real
"IT geeks" (those who make their living keeping systems up and
running) have steered clear of Vista.



There is a great deal of learning curve on Vista. I have Vista
Ultimate..and I had to re-install twice. First the Upgrade did not work
due to many special applications running on my computer. Therefore, I
formatted and install freash Vista and no problems installing all my
apps. There was a few kinks, but was easily resolved by understanding
the Vista Security settings.

I love it now...but sooner or later you guys needs to switch to vista,
because Microsoft is coming out with a newer OS updates next year and
possibly the next level OS to replace Vista.

I believe MS is trying to convert people and they hear people saying
they like Windows XP interface and hate Vista, so I can surmise that MS
will blend the two together to give you dual options on the interface
rather than strictly 1 type of interface.

Enjoy..

Gil



You are correct in that "upgrades" from one MS OS to a later one is not
the way to go.

[email protected] November 12th 07 07:13 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Nov 12, 1:48 pm, HK wrote:
Gil wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
JimH wrote:


"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
messagenews:4NydnZoGgvwzxKXanZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@comca st.com...


HK wrote:


Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


HK wrote:


Mike wrote:


Vista is CRAP... pure and simple. I tested it in alpha and beta,
and when that was done, all of my computers went back to XP.


In my office, we have 7 computers on a peer to peer network...
all running XP except one that was replaced recently, and came
with Vista on it. That vista computer is CONSTANTLY having
problems accessing shares on the network, such as a printer at
another workstation. If you print during one of these episodes,
the thing runs like an old 286 for about 5 minutes until it
finally gives up, displaying an error message. Rebooting usually
cures it for a time. That system will get XP when I have some
time to do it.


--Mike


Sounds like you're the problem. I have no problems running any of
the printers here on my local VISTA network, which includes
machines running VISTA, XP and even Win2k. My wife's office is on
the third floor, where she runs XP and has a Brother laser
printer. I can easily print on that printer from my office, two
floors away, and she can easily print on my HP color laser printer.


There's always Network Magic if you can't figure out simple
Windows networking.


On Saturday, I installed a new printer on a friend's new Vista
laptop. It would never print the last page of her documents. I
thought it was a problem with her formating in Office, but it
seems to only want to print out all pages on a hit or miss basis.
I thought it might be a problem with the wireless, but did not
have the time to correct the problem. She has a contract with Geek
Squad and I told her to have them come over and sort it out.


I had no idea you were a VISTA geek, skilled in connecting printers
via wireless networks.


I am not, but have never had any problems connecting printers to
wireless or wired connections in the past.


If you really need to be a "Vista Geek" to install a printer, what
does it say about Vista?


If you have to advise someone to call the "Geek Squad" to fix a
computer problem what does it say about your knowledge about computers?


She had already paid for the Geek Squad" program to fix any computer
problem for free, and hopefully they would be able to fix and
identify if the problem was a hardware or software problem quicker
than I could. If it really was a software problem, that this would be
the first time in 20 years (and probably more than 20 printers) that I
was not able easily install a printer.


ANYONE should be able to easily install a printer, without any
problems. That fact that this was a problem, verifies why the real
"IT geeks" (those who make their living keeping systems up and
running) have steered clear of Vista.


There is a great deal of learning curve on Vista. I have Vista
Ultimate..and I had to re-install twice. First the Upgrade did not work
due to many special applications running on my computer. Therefore, I
formatted and install freash Vista and no problems installing all my
apps. There was a few kinks, but was easily resolved by understanding
the Vista Security settings.


I love it now...but sooner or later you guys needs to switch to vista,
because Microsoft is coming out with a newer OS updates next year and
possibly the next level OS to replace Vista.


I believe MS is trying to convert people and they hear people saying
they like Windows XP interface and hate Vista, so I can surmise that MS
will blend the two together to give you dual options on the interface
rather than strictly 1 type of interface.


Enjoy..


Gil


You are correct in that "upgrades" from one MS OS to a later one is not
the way to go.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Not directed to you Harry, just catching up on the posts. I run Vista
and aside from a couple of software packages I had to wait a few weeks
to come up with Vista compatable stuff, I have had few if any
operating system problems, no crashes at all that I have noticed. I
have it as OEM on a Toshiba sattelite pro. Vista home edition...


HK November 12th 07 07:44 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
wrote:
On Nov 12, 1:48 pm, HK wrote:
Gil wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
messagenews:4NydnZoGgvwzxKXanZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@comca st.com...
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Mike wrote:
Vista is CRAP... pure and simple. I tested it in alpha and beta,
and when that was done, all of my computers went back to XP.
In my office, we have 7 computers on a peer to peer network...
all running XP except one that was replaced recently, and came
with Vista on it. That vista computer is CONSTANTLY having
problems accessing shares on the network, such as a printer at
another workstation. If you print during one of these episodes,
the thing runs like an old 286 for about 5 minutes until it
finally gives up, displaying an error message. Rebooting usually
cures it for a time. That system will get XP when I have some
time to do it.
--Mike
Sounds like you're the problem. I have no problems running any of
the printers here on my local VISTA network, which includes
machines running VISTA, XP and even Win2k. My wife's office is on
the third floor, where she runs XP and has a Brother laser
printer. I can easily print on that printer from my office, two
floors away, and she can easily print on my HP color laser printer.
There's always Network Magic if you can't figure out simple
Windows networking.
On Saturday, I installed a new printer on a friend's new Vista
laptop. It would never print the last page of her documents. I
thought it was a problem with her formating in Office, but it
seems to only want to print out all pages on a hit or miss basis.
I thought it might be a problem with the wireless, but did not
have the time to correct the problem. She has a contract with Geek
Squad and I told her to have them come over and sort it out.
I had no idea you were a VISTA geek, skilled in connecting printers
via wireless networks.
I am not, but have never had any problems connecting printers to
wireless or wired connections in the past.
If you really need to be a "Vista Geek" to install a printer, what
does it say about Vista?
If you have to advise someone to call the "Geek Squad" to fix a
computer problem what does it say about your knowledge about computers?
She had already paid for the Geek Squad" program to fix any computer
problem for free, and hopefully they would be able to fix and
identify if the problem was a hardware or software problem quicker
than I could. If it really was a software problem, that this would be
the first time in 20 years (and probably more than 20 printers) that I
was not able easily install a printer.
ANYONE should be able to easily install a printer, without any
problems. That fact that this was a problem, verifies why the real
"IT geeks" (those who make their living keeping systems up and
running) have steered clear of Vista.
There is a great deal of learning curve on Vista. I have Vista
Ultimate..and I had to re-install twice. First the Upgrade did not work
due to many special applications running on my computer. Therefore, I
formatted and install freash Vista and no problems installing all my
apps. There was a few kinks, but was easily resolved by understanding
the Vista Security settings.
I love it now...but sooner or later you guys needs to switch to vista,
because Microsoft is coming out with a newer OS updates next year and
possibly the next level OS to replace Vista.
I believe MS is trying to convert people and they hear people saying
they like Windows XP interface and hate Vista, so I can surmise that MS
will blend the two together to give you dual options on the interface
rather than strictly 1 type of interface.
Enjoy..
Gil

You are correct in that "upgrades" from one MS OS to a later one is not
the way to go.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Not directed to you Harry, just catching up on the posts. I run Vista
and aside from a couple of software packages I had to wait a few weeks
to come up with Vista compatable stuff, I have had few if any
operating system problems, no crashes at all that I have noticed. I
have it as OEM on a Toshiba sattelite pro. Vista home edition...



I don't have any "VISTA problems," either.

[email protected] November 12th 07 09:37 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:23:15 -0500, HK wrote:


One answer: VISTA addresses more memory than XP. Even the 32-bit version
of VISTA address more memory than XP.


You do know, XP had a 64-bit edition.

HK November 12th 07 09:39 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:23:15 -0500, HK wrote:


One answer: VISTA addresses more memory than XP. Even the 32-bit version
of VISTA address more memory than XP.


You do know, XP had a 64-bit edition.



Sure do. Seen much of it?

[email protected] November 12th 07 09:44 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:39:23 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:23:15 -0500, HK wrote:


One answer: VISTA addresses more memory than XP. Even the 32-bit
version of VISTA address more memory than XP.


You do know, XP had a 64-bit edition.



Sure do. Seen much of it?


No, I break out in hives when I'm around anything Microsoft. ;-)

Reginald P. Smithers III November 12th 07 10:21 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Nov 12, 1:48 pm, HK wrote:


There is a great deal of learning curve on Vista. I have Vista
Ultimate..and I had to re-install twice. First the Upgrade did not
work
due to many special applications running on my computer. Therefore, I
formatted and install freash Vista and no problems installing all my
apps. There was a few kinks, but was easily resolved by understanding
the Vista Security settings.
I love it now...but sooner or later you guys needs to switch to vista,
because Microsoft is coming out with a newer OS updates next year and
possibly the next level OS to replace Vista.
I believe MS is trying to convert people and they hear people saying
they like Windows XP interface and hate Vista, so I can surmise that MS
will blend the two together to give you dual options on the interface
rather than strictly 1 type of interface.
Enjoy..
Gil
You are correct in that "upgrades" from one MS OS to a later one is not
the way to go.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Not directed to you Harry, just catching up on the posts. I run Vista
and aside from a couple of software packages I had to wait a few weeks
to come up with Vista compatable stuff, I have had few if any
operating system problems, no crashes at all that I have noticed. I
have it as OEM on a Toshiba sattelite pro. Vista home edition...


I don't have any "VISTA problems," either.


The funny thing is that the only ones with VISTA problems are the ones who
never used it. ;-)



Have you read any of the expert and IT pros who write articles for the
computer magazines and web sites? These are not only people who have
used Vista, but have a much broader exposure to the problems encountered
in a variety of applications than any of us in rec.boats. I know you
prefer to use UseNet as your source of information, so I am sure you are
getting the most accurate, complete and unbiased analysis. Then again,
you are the kind of person who goes along with a mechanic when he says
your impeller of unknown age, is in good shape and doesn't need to be
checked or replaced, because it is spitting water out. Then you are
upset when you have an expensive problem due to a failed impeller. To
each his own.

I personally am having NO problems with Vista, my friend who has a
computer that can't print correctly is having some problems, but I have
no problems. I am using WinXP.






HK November 12th 07 10:25 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

I personally am having NO problems with Vista, my friend who has a
computer that can't print correctly is having some problems, but I have
no problems. I am using WinXP.


We'll just chalk this up as yet another subject about which you know
nothing yet insist on posting about, eh?

Reginald P. Smithers III November 12th 07 10:27 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

I personally am having NO problems with Vista, my friend who has a
computer that can't print correctly is having some problems, but I
have no problems. I am using WinXP.


We'll just chalk this up as yet another subject about which you know
nothing yet insist on posting about, eh?


No, everything I have posted about Windows Vista and Windows XP I know
is 100% correct.



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