Boat Radios, or Why I am not an Engineer
 

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:19:22 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

I was just thinking the other day about how quickly technology(particularly
in the various communication areas) has evolved over the past 50, 20 and
even 10 years, primarily due to the conversion to digital systems ... and I
am not referring simply to computers. HD TV, HD radio (even AM), DVD, CD,
cell phones, GPS, .... the list goes on and on.

And, as fiberoptic lines expand and replace cable lines, the digital age
will grow even more.

It's all going to come to an evil end. You heard it here first. The
more digital we become, the more compressed the infrastructure which
means that if there is a major event at one or two switch points, the
potential for a cascade which shuts down the whole system increases.

And it also means that the ability to control what one can access
becomes easier.

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:51:43 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:32:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Why would you want duplex?

Uh? He likes to talk while the other party is talking?

There is nothing wrong with simplex operation - you just need to keep
your conversations to a minimum and short.

This whole thing about duplex is silly - duplex doesn't give you any
advantage at all and besides - technically, VHF isn't for conversation
- theoritically.


QRT QRT QRT

Eisboch

Boat Radios, or Why I am not an Engineer
 

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 06:13:10 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:51:43 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:32:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Why would you want duplex?

Uh? He likes to talk while the other party is talking?

There is nothing wrong with simplex operation - you just need to keep
your conversations to a minimum and short.

This whole thing about duplex is silly - duplex doesn't give you any
advantage at all and besides - technically, VHF isn't for conversation
- theoritically.

QRT QRT QRT

ROTFL!!!

Boat Radios, or Why I am not an Engineer
 

And, as fiberoptic lines expand and replace cable lines, the digital age
will grow even more.

Fiber has it's places, short runs in a boat ain't one of them. The
vibrations in a boat would be problematic. Not to mention the higher costs
of terminating fiber cabling. On a larger vessel it might be worth
considering, but unlikely on recreational vessels.

Boat Radios, or Why I am not an Engineer
 

I'd still lke to know why you think duplex is so important.

Try talking to my wife on a semi-duplex cell phone someday and you will
understand.

Given the crowded nature of the airwaves it would probably be BETTER to not
have full-duplex. If folks feel the need to prattle on endlessly let them
use cell or satellite phones... and PAY FOR IT. Stay off the VHF for that.

Boat Radios, or Why I am not an Engineer
 

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:23:08 -0400, Eisboch penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|
|"Tim" wrote in message
roups.com...
| On Oct 23, 10:29 am, HK wrote:
| So, I was thinking, what with all the technological advances in
| communications, why are we still stuck with VHF radios on our boats?
| The limitations of VHF radio are obvious to all of us, so there's no
| need to repeat them here. And I'm suggesting a move up to SSB or
| satellite telephones.
|
| Surely, there is a better way to handle boat to boat or boat to shore
| communciations, with features like duplex, much greater range, less
|static.
|
| Right?
|
| Well, I always thought these did a pretty good job.
|
|
|http://www.usswisconsin.org/Pictures...t%2024inc..JPG
|
|
|Ah, yet another example of digital communications.
|
|Eisboch

Cool, yeah.... and duplex, too!

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On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:53:18 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:23:08 -0400, Eisboch penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|
|"Tim" wrote in message
groups.com...
| On Oct 23, 10:29 am, HK wrote:
| So, I was thinking, what with all the technological advances in
| communications, why are we still stuck with VHF radios on our boats?
| The limitations of VHF radio are obvious to all of us, so there's no
| need to repeat them here. And I'm suggesting a move up to SSB or
| satellite telephones.
|
| Surely, there is a better way to handle boat to boat or boat to shore
| communciations, with features like duplex, much greater range, less
|static.
|
| Right?
|
| Well, I always thought these did a pretty good job.
|
|
|http://www.usswisconsin.org/Pictures...t%2024inc..JPG
|
|
|Ah, yet another example of digital communications.
|
|Eisboch

Cool, yeah.... and duplex, too!

Even bettererer....

http://www.fotosearch.com/bigcomp.as.../u15737827.jpg

Boat Radios, or Why I am not an Engineer
 

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:17:31 -0400, "Bill Kearney"
wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:

On a larger vessel it might be worth
considering, but unlikely on recreational vessels.

We already have ethernet and a few variants on recreational boats.
It's only a small jump from there to fiber optic networking. Some big
advantages are no connector corrosion issues and no induced noise, not
to mention high bandwidth for things like multiplexing radar displays
and such.

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On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:26:24 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

why 3? Not enough power in 1 or 2, or do they require 2 spares?

With three engines there is a good chance of keeping the boat running
on plane if there's a failure, not usually true with two engines

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On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:24:09 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:26:24 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

why 3? Not enough power in 1 or 2, or do they require 2 spares?

With three engines there is a good chance of keeping the boat running
on plane if there's a failure, not usually true with two engines

Not to mention that triples look WAY cool.