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On Oct 21, 6:06 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
Pretty boat. http://www.eisboch.com/kingman2.html Eisboch I love the wood, but that looks newer, any idea when it was built? If I win powerball tonight I will build one just like it;) Always loved the idea of the rope shear bumper.. very nice boat. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:30:56 -0000, wrote: On Oct 21, 6:06 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: Pretty boat. http://www.eisboch.com/kingman2.html Eisboch I love the wood, but that looks newer, any idea when it was built? If I win powerball tonight I will build one just like it;) Always loved the idea of the rope shear bumper.. very nice boat. Powerball was last night. Are you back in yankeedom? |
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wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 21, 6:06 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: Pretty boat. http://www.eisboch.com/kingman2.html Eisboch I love the wood, but that looks newer, any idea when it was built? Don't know. I'll find out tomorrow. Eisboch |
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On Oct 21, 7:45 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 21, 6:06 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: Pretty boat. http://www.eisboch.com/kingman2.html Eisboch I love the wood, but that looks newer, any idea when it was built? Don't know. I'll find out tomorrow. Eisboch Be interesting to find out. Cold moulding has been around for a long time, but that looks more like Sapelle to me than Mahogny or Teak and that has not been really available in laminated sheets, at least to the general consumer until the last decade or so. Of course I could be way off. Anyway, if you can, ask him too what wood the hull is. I will be here drooling in the meantime;) Thanks for the pics. |
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On Oct 21, 7:38 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:30:56 -0000, wrote: On Oct 21, 6:06 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: Pretty boat. http://www.eisboch.com/kingman2.html Eisboch I love the wood, but that looks newer, any idea when it was built? If I win powerball tonight I will build one just like it;) Always loved the idea of the rope shear bumper.. very nice boat. Powerball was last night. Then I better check my ticket;) |
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:45:48 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Oct 21, 6:06 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: Pretty boat. http://www.eisboch.com/kingman2.html Eisboch I love the wood, but that looks newer, any idea when it was built? Don't know. I'll find out tomorrow. Eisboch 2001 in Holland. http://2miljoen.nl/details-39061243-..._Rietschans_BV Vessel Name: ROSEY USCG Doc. No.: 1113520 Vessel Service: RECREATIONAL IMO Number: * Trade Indicator: Recreational Call Sign: * Hull Material: FRP (FIBERGLASS) Hull Number: RIN10016D101 Ship Builder: JACHTWERF DE RIETSCHANS Year Built: 2001 Length (ft.): 27 Hailing Port: CATAUMET MA Hull Depth (ft.): 4.5 Owner: KINGMAN YACHT CENTER INC 1 SHIPYARD LANE PO BOX 408 CATAUMET, MA 02534 Hull Breadth (ft.): 9.7 Gross Tonnage: 7 Net Tonnage: 6 Documentation Issuance Date: January 16, 2007 Documentation Expiration Date: February 29, 2008 |
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:00:06 -0000,
wrote: that looks more like Sapelle to me than Mahogny or Teak You are going to be *very* surprised... Polyesterwood. |
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On Oct 21, 8:57 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:00:06 -0000, wrote: that looks more like Sapelle to me than Mahogny or Teak You are going to be *very* surprised... Polyesterwood. I was actually going to suggest composite, but decided not to chance putting my foot that far into my mouth;) Just like my Takamine. Kind of like making a boat out of a sheet of Formica. These new composites are really nice, I can't see why more "woodgrain" boats are not coming out. Thanks for the info, interior still looks like real wood, cept for the cabinsole which I imagine is composite too. |
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:06:00 -0000,
wrote: Kind of like making a boat out of a sheet of Formica. Makes it easy to match up the grain and color. :-) |
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On Oct 21, 9:24 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:06:00 -0000, wrote: Kind of like making a boat out of a sheet of Formica. Makes it easy to match up the grain and color. :-) Bill O'neil (sp?) from Seaworthy systems, may he rest in peace, brought me to his home one day and showed me the 50 foot sailboat they were building over on South Cove in Essex. The whole interior was done in pigmented composite wainscoat and various types of cabinsole colored and painted to look like wood, right down to 3d grain the guys at the shop built into the molds. He trimmed that with real wood, cherry, maple, and walnut iirc.. It was a beautiful mix of old school and new technology. But all the white and main woodwork was completely maintenance free. |
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On Oct 21, 10:42 pm, HK wrote:
wrote: On Oct 21, 9:24 pm, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:06:00 -0000, wrote: Kind of like making a boat out of a sheet of Formica. Makes it easy to match up the grain and color. :-) Bill O'neil (sp?) from Seaworthy systems, may he rest in peace, brought me to his home one day and showed me the 50 foot sailboat they were building over on South Cove in Essex. The whole interior was done in pigmented composite wainscoat and various types of cabinsole colored and painted to look like wood, right down to 3d grain the guys at the shop built into the molds. He trimmed that with real wood, cherry, maple, and walnut iirc.. It was a beautiful mix of old school and new technology. But all the white and main woodwork was completely maintenance free. Formica is a composite. It's okay for a countertop. Pigmented composite wainscote sounds like a material I wouldn't want to see on a boat. Composite what?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What they did was build molds for wood wainscoat cabinetry, using blasted wood with a raised grain to make the panel molds. Then they built molds for all the pillars, cabinetry, and much of the finish work including the bead and cove cabinsole and celing panels, and poured them out of resin, kind of like making a boat hull in a mold. Start with laminating wax and then pigment, and then pour in the composite material. Trust me, this stuff looked like wood and with the hardwood accents, you would have lived on this boat never known. Yes, he knew it was overkill, but he had the technology, and the manpower to do it so he did. The idea was never, and I mean never, having to do any manitenance on 95% of the "woodwork and bright" on the boat, ever. This was a huge project to be sure. He had a full time carpenter/ composite guy for over a decade, who was backed up by Seaworthy Systems R+D, designers, engineers, tooling, suppliers, shops, and technology. He built it right in his backyard, overlooking the cove. It was to be a grand retirement boat for Bill, he only got to sail it once, very close to the end which he was aware of. They said it was a perfect sailing day, great weather, great wind, not to much... Just a perfect day.. I often wonder who is sailing her now, hopefully someone is, she was a beauty. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:45:48 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Oct 21, 6:06 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: Pretty boat. http://www.eisboch.com/kingman2.html Eisboch I love the wood, but that looks newer, any idea when it was built? Don't know. I'll find out tomorrow. Eisboch 2001 in Holland. http://2miljoen.nl/details-39061243-..._Rietschans_BV Vessel Name: ROSEY USCG Doc. No.: 1113520 Vessel Service: RECREATIONAL IMO Number: * Trade Indicator: Recreational Call Sign: * Hull Material: FRP (FIBERGLASS) Hull Number: RIN10016D101 Ship Builder: JACHTWERF DE RIETSCHANS Year Built: 2001 Length (ft.): 27 Hailing Port: CATAUMET MA Hull Depth (ft.): 4.5 Owner: KINGMAN YACHT CENTER INC 1 SHIPYARD LANE PO BOX 408 CATAUMET, MA 02534 Hull Breadth (ft.): 9.7 Gross Tonnage: 7 Net Tonnage: 6 Documentation Issuance Date: January 16, 2007 Documentation Expiration Date: February 29, 2008 Nice find, Wayne. I didn't even think of the documentation query. http://www.rietschans.com/underc.express.html Eisboch |
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:45:23 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: Nice find, Wayne. I didn't even think of the documentation query. It's very handy for searching out lobsta boat owners (and non-owners). :-) |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:45:23 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: Nice find, Wayne. I didn't even think of the documentation query. It's very handy for searching out lobsta boat owners (and non-owners). :-) I thought "Pangea" was a unique name .... until I checked the documentation data base. There are seven or eight documented boats with that name. Last time I checked though there was only one "Soul Source". That name came about because I bought the Navigator shortly after my company received a large, sole source contract .... meaning we had no competition. To recognize the contract award, I just changed "sole" to "soul". Eisboch |
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:51:37 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: I thought "Pangea" was a unique name There are two on Chesapeake Bay. We saw one of them last month, can't remember which it was. |
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:51:37 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: I thought "Pangea" was a unique name The spelling is unique, for sure. Had you gone to a quality high school, you would have known the word was spelled Pangaea. :} |
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:51:37 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: I thought "Pangea" was a unique name The spelling is unique, for sure. Had you gone to a quality high school, you would have known the word was spelled Pangaea. :} It is actually spelled both ways. You will find numerous university web sites hich have it listed as Pangaea. You can also find web sites where they spell it Pangaea, and find the maps they show have it listed as Pangea. If you go to Dictionary.com, you will see most dictionaries say it can be spelled either way. |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:51:37 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: I thought "Pangea" was a unique name The spelling is unique, for sure. Had you gone to a quality high school, you would have known the word was spelled Pangaea. :} It is actually spelled both ways. You will find numerous university web sites hich have it listed as Pangaea. You can also find web sites where they spell it Pangaea, and find the maps they show have it listed as Pangea. If you go to Dictionary.com, you will see most dictionaries say it can be spelled either way. Even the USGS spells it Pangea http://geology.wr.usgs.gov/parks/pltec/pangea.html |
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"HK" wrote in message ... On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:51:37 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: I thought "Pangea" was a unique name The spelling is unique, for sure. Had you gone to a quality high school, you would have known the word was spelled Pangaea. :} I checked on that. Both spellings are acceptable, although to the purest the two have slightly different meanings when translated from Greek. BTW.... If and when the continents drift back together again, which some scientist claim will happen, the new continent will be called, "Pangea Ultima". Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... I checked on that. Both spellings are acceptable, although to the purest the two have slightly different meanings when translated from Greek. Actually, IIRC, "Pangaea" is simply the Greek spelling of the more contemporary "Pangea". Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... I checked on that. Both spellings are acceptable, although to the purest the two have slightly different meanings when translated from Greek. Actually, IIRC, "Pangaea" is simply the Greek spelling of the more contemporary "Pangea". Eisboch Pangaea is definitely the Greek spelling, and Pangea is definitely one of the correct ways to spell the old continent. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:51:37 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: I thought "Pangea" was a unique name The spelling is unique, for sure. Had you gone to a quality high school, you would have known the word was spelled Pangaea. :} I checked on that. Both spellings are acceptable, although to the purest the two have slightly different meanings when translated from Greek. BTW.... If and when the continents drift back together again, which some scientist claim will happen, the new continent will be called, "Pangea Ultima". Eisboch Hey...you ruined my chance to knock your second-rate high school! |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:51:37 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: I thought "Pangea" was a unique name The spelling is unique, for sure. Had you gone to a quality high school, you would have known the word was spelled Pangaea. :} It is actually spelled both ways. You will find numerous university web sites hich have it listed as Pangaea. You can also find web sites where they spell it Pangaea, and find the maps they show have it listed as Pangea. If you go to Dictionary.com, you will see most dictionaries say it can be spelled either way. My comment had very little to do with the spelling, s.f.b. |
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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:51:37 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: I thought "Pangea" was a unique name The spelling is unique, for sure. Had you gone to a quality high school, you would have known the word was spelled Pangaea. :} It is actually spelled both ways. You will find numerous university web sites hich have it listed as Pangaea. You can also find web sites where they spell it Pangaea, and find the maps they show have it listed as Pangea. If you go to Dictionary.com, you will see most dictionaries say it can be spelled either way. My comment had very little to do with the spelling, s.f.b. Sorry, I thought you said he spelled the word incorrectly. You did perk my curiosity, what does SFB mean? |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:51:37 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: I thought "Pangea" was a unique name The spelling is unique, for sure. Had you gone to a quality high school, you would have known the word was spelled Pangaea. :} It is actually spelled both ways. You will find numerous university web sites hich have it listed as Pangaea. You can also find web sites where they spell it Pangaea, and find the maps they show have it listed as Pangea. If you go to Dictionary.com, you will see most dictionaries say it can be spelled either way. My comment had very little to do with the spelling, s.f.b. Sorry, I thought you said he spelled the word incorrectly. You did perk my curiosity, what does SFB mean? My comment was about his third-rate high school I'm sure a cut and paster like you can find out what S.F.B. means. |
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:44:07 -0400, HK wrote:
My comment had very little to do with the spelling, s.f.b. Sorry, I thought you said he spelled the word incorrectly. You did perk my curiosity, what does SFB mean? My comment was about his third-rate high school I'm sure a cut and paster like you can find out what S.F.B. means. What the hell does the San Francisco Ballet have to do with this thread? |
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thunder wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:44:07 -0400, HK wrote: My comment had very little to do with the spelling, s.f.b. Sorry, I thought you said he spelled the word incorrectly. You did perk my curiosity, what does SFB mean? My comment was about his third-rate high school I'm sure a cut and paster like you can find out what S.F.B. means. What the hell does the San Francisco Ballet have to do with this thread? Indeed. |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. Hey...you ruined my chance to knock your second-rate high school! I never really fit in at Amity. Transferred there halfway through my sophomore year and left halfway through my senior year. Graduated high school back up here in Norwell, MA. Amity was full of rich kids and my family was far from rich. The culture was a bit too snobby for me. A regional school, I think it included Orange, Woodbridge (where we lived) and Bethany. Some of the nicest, down-to-earth people (IMO) were from the (then) hick, farming town of Bethany. Eisboch |
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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:51:37 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: I thought "Pangea" was a unique name The spelling is unique, for sure. Had you gone to a quality high school, you would have known the word was spelled Pangaea. :} It is actually spelled both ways. You will find numerous university web sites hich have it listed as Pangaea. You can also find web sites where they spell it Pangaea, and find the maps they show have it listed as Pangea. If you go to Dictionary.com, you will see most dictionaries say it can be spelled either way. My comment had very little to do with the spelling, s.f.b. Sorry, I thought you said he spelled the word incorrectly. You did perk my curiosity, what does SFB mean? My comment was about his third-rate high school I'm sure a cut and paster like you can find out what S.F.B. means. I guess you don't know what SFB means either, NP |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. Hey...you ruined my chance to knock your second-rate high school! I never really fit in at Amity. Transferred there halfway through my sophomore year and left halfway through my senior year. Graduated high school back up here in Norwell, MA. Amity was full of rich kids and my family was far from rich. The culture was a bit too snobby for me. A regional school, I think it included Orange, Woodbridge (where we lived) and Bethany. Some of the nicest, down-to-earth people (IMO) were from the (then) hick, farming town of Bethany. Eisboch Hey! I lived in Westville. To us, Woodbridge and parts of Orange were upper crust. :} My father's boat store was in Orange, on the Boston Post Road. The marina was in Milford. As I was growing up, Orange changed dramatically. |
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:56:02 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
If and when the continents drift back together again, which some scientist claim will happen, the new continent will be called, "Pangea Ultima". That will be interesting. I can hardly wait, imagine the savings in air fare. |
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:56:02 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: If and when the continents drift back together again, which some scientist claim will happen, the new continent will be called, "Pangea Ultima". That will be interesting. I can hardly wait, imagine the savings in air fare.+ +Imagine crossing the "pond" in your floating RV. :) |
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:41:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: If and when the continents drift back together again, which some scientist claim will happen, the new continent will be called, "Pangea Ultima". That will be interesting. I can hardly wait, imagine the savings in air fare.+ +Imagine crossing the "pond" in your floating RV. :) Yes, as the size of the "pond" shrinks it will bring Europe within our fuel range. Way cool, and saving the $1M+ of a Nordhavn or the indignity of regressing to sail propulsion. :-) That's nothing of course compared to being able to jump in your car and drive over to the French Riviera for a few days of quality time with all of those cute little European babes who forgot half of their bikini. Woo hoo, bring on Pangea Ultima, and the sooner the better. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:41:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: If and when the continents drift back together again, which some scientist claim will happen, the new continent will be called, "Pangea Ultima". That will be interesting. I can hardly wait, imagine the savings in air fare.+ +Imagine crossing the "pond" in your floating RV. :) Yes, as the size of the "pond" shrinks it will bring Europe within our fuel range. Not so fast, RV H2O Cruiser....... Before Pangea Ultima, and for about 50,000,000 years beforehand, (give or take), the Atlantic Ocean will be bigger than the Pacific. Eisboch |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:41:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: If and when the continents drift back together again, which some scientist claim will happen, the new continent will be called, "Pangea Ultima". That will be interesting. I can hardly wait, imagine the savings in air fare.+ +Imagine crossing the "pond" in your floating RV. :) Yes, as the size of the "pond" shrinks it will bring Europe within our fuel range. Not so fast, RV H2O Cruiser....... Before Pangea Ultima, and for about 50,000,000 years beforehand, (give or take), the Atlantic Ocean will be bigger than the Pacific. Eisboch Well, I guess you will have to cross the pacific in your floating RV. You can even stop over at Hawaii. |
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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:41:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: If and when the continents drift back together again, which some scientist claim will happen, the new continent will be called, "Pangea Ultima". That will be interesting. I can hardly wait, imagine the savings in air fare.+ +Imagine crossing the "pond" in your floating RV. :) Yes, as the size of the "pond" shrinks it will bring Europe within our fuel range. Not so fast, RV H2O Cruiser....... Before Pangea Ultima, and for about 50,000,000 years beforehand, (give or take), the Atlantic Ocean will be bigger than the Pacific. Eisboch Well, I guess you will have to cross the pacific in your floating RV. You can even stop over at Hawaii. Or Hawaii will stop over by you. Eisboch |
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