On Oct 21, 8:57 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:00:06 -0000,
wrote:

that looks more like Sapelle to me than Mahogny or Teak

You are going to be *very* surprised...

Polyesterwood.

I was actually going to suggest composite, but decided not to chance
putting my foot that far into my mouth Just like my Takamine. Kind
of like making a boat out of a sheet of Formica. These new composites
are really nice, I can't see why more "woodgrain" boats are not coming
out. Thanks for the info, interior still looks like real wood, cept
for the cabinsole which I imagine is composite too.

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:06:00 -0000,
wrote:

Kind
of like making a boat out of a sheet of Formica.

Makes it easy to match up the grain and color. :-)

On Oct 21, 9:24 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:06:00 -0000,
wrote:

Kind
of like making a boat out of a sheet of Formica.

Makes it easy to match up the grain and color. :-)

Bill O'neil (sp?) from Seaworthy systems, may he rest in peace,
brought me to his home one day and showed me the 50 foot sailboat they
were building over on South Cove in Essex. The whole interior was done
in pigmented composite wainscoat and various types of cabinsole
colored and painted to look like wood, right down to 3d grain the guys
at the shop built into the molds. He trimmed that with real wood,
cherry, maple, and walnut iirc.. It was a beautiful mix of old school
and new technology. But all the white and main woodwork was completely
maintenance free.

wrote:
On Oct 21, 9:24 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:06:00 -0000,
wrote:

Kind
of like making a boat out of a sheet of Formica.
Makes it easy to match up the grain and color. :-)

Bill O'neil (sp?) from Seaworthy systems, may he rest in peace,
brought me to his home one day and showed me the 50 foot sailboat they
were building over on South Cove in Essex. The whole interior was done
in pigmented composite wainscoat and various types of cabinsole
colored and painted to look like wood, right down to 3d grain the guys
at the shop built into the molds. He trimmed that with real wood,
cherry, maple, and walnut iirc.. It was a beautiful mix of old school
and new technology. But all the white and main woodwork was completely
maintenance free.



Formica is a composite. It's okay for a countertop.

Pigmented composite wainscote sounds like a material I wouldn't want to
see on a boat. Composite what?

On Oct 21, 10:42 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 21, 9:24 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:06:00 -0000,
wrote:

Kind
of like making a boat out of a sheet of Formica.
Makes it easy to match up the grain and color. :-)

Bill O'neil (sp?) from Seaworthy systems, may he rest in peace,
brought me to his home one day and showed me the 50 foot sailboat they
were building over on South Cove in Essex. The whole interior was done
in pigmented composite wainscoat and various types of cabinsole
colored and painted to look like wood, right down to 3d grain the guys
at the shop built into the molds. He trimmed that with real wood,
cherry, maple, and walnut iirc.. It was a beautiful mix of old school
and new technology. But all the white and main woodwork was completely
maintenance free.

Formica is a composite. It's okay for a countertop.

Pigmented composite wainscote sounds like a material I wouldn't want to
see on a boat. Composite what?- Hide quoted text -

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What they did was build molds for wood wainscoat cabinetry, using
blasted wood with a raised grain to make the panel molds. Then they
built molds for all the pillars, cabinetry, and much of the finish
work including the bead and cove cabinsole and celing panels, and
poured them out of resin, kind of like making a boat hull in a mold.
Start with laminating wax and then pigment, and then pour in the
composite material. Trust me, this stuff looked like wood and with the
hardwood accents, you would have lived on this boat never known. Yes,
he knew it was overkill, but he had the technology, and the manpower
to do it so he did. The idea was never, and I mean never, having to do
any manitenance on 95% of the "woodwork and bright" on the boat, ever.
This was a huge project to be sure. He had a full time carpenter/
composite guy for over a decade, who was backed up by Seaworthy
Systems R+D, designers, engineers, tooling, suppliers, shops, and
technology. He built it right in his backyard, overlooking the cove.
It was to be a grand retirement boat for Bill, he only got to sail it
once, very close to the end which he was aware of. They said it was a
perfect sailing day, great weather, great wind, not to much... Just a
perfect day.. I often wonder who is sailing her now, hopefully someone
is, she was a beauty.

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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:45:48 -0400, "Eisboch"
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On Oct 21, 6:06 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
Pretty boat.

http://www.eisboch.com/kingman2.html

Eisboch

I love the wood, but that looks newer, any idea when it was built?



Don't know. I'll find out tomorrow.

Eisboch

2001 in Holland.

http://2miljoen.nl/details-39061243-..._Rietschans_BV
Vessel Name: ROSEY USCG Doc. No.: 1113520
Vessel Service: RECREATIONAL IMO Number: *
Trade Indicator: Recreational Call Sign: *
Hull Material: FRP (FIBERGLASS) Hull Number: RIN10016D101
Ship Builder: JACHTWERF DE RIETSCHANS Year Built: 2001

Length (ft.): 27
Hailing Port: CATAUMET MA Hull Depth (ft.): 4.5
Owner: KINGMAN YACHT CENTER INC
1 SHIPYARD LANE PO BOX 408
CATAUMET, MA 02534 Hull Breadth (ft.): 9.7
Gross Tonnage: 7
Net Tonnage: 6
Documentation Issuance Date: January 16, 2007 Documentation Expiration
Date: February 29, 2008


Nice find, Wayne. I didn't even think of the documentation query.

http://www.rietschans.com/underc.express.html

Eisboch

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:45:23 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Nice find, Wayne. I didn't even think of the documentation query.

It's very handy for searching out lobsta boat owners (and non-owners).

:-)

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:45:23 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Nice find, Wayne. I didn't even think of the documentation query.

It's very handy for searching out lobsta boat owners (and non-owners).

:-)


I thought "Pangea" was a unique name .... until I checked the documentation
data base.
There are seven or eight documented boats with that name.

Last time I checked though there was only one "Soul Source". That name
came about because I bought the Navigator shortly after my company received
a large, sole source contract .... meaning we had no competition. To
recognize the contract award, I just changed "sole" to "soul".

Eisboch

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:51:37 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

I thought "Pangea" was a unique name

There are two on Chesapeake Bay. We saw one of them last month, can't
remember which it was.

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:51:37 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

I thought "Pangea" was a unique name


The spelling is unique, for sure. Had you gone to a quality high school,
you would have known the word was spelled Pangaea. :}