"HK" wrote in message
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run aground
too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.

Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.


Oh, you'll head in if the weather conditions are right. Bet on it.


Ribbing aside, you are correct, except only to find a safe harbor or marina
until the weather improves.

The ICW is not a desirable option in a larger boat south of the Carolinas,
until you get well south in Florida.

Eisboch

On Oct 19, 1:00 pm, "JimH" ask wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

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John H. wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:06:06 -0400, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run
aground too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.
Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.
LTs should not try this at home.
When I lived along the ICW in Florida, I'd often see boats like yours
wallowing down the ditch, and a couple of miles south of us, about every
two weeks, grounding on what was then an unmarked sandbar.

On good weather days, we'd go out into the Atlantic 20 miles to fish off
some of the manmade reefs. Never saw any trawlerbarges like yours out
there. Sometimes we'd see a trawlerbarge or sailboat just outside the
St. Johns River, waiting for the outgoing tide and current to change so
they could head in to the intersection of the river and the ICW.

I doubt you run outside the ditch heading south in Florida. Why would
you?

Harry, I hate to say this, but you are sounding much like JimH with your
comments - full of jealousy. It's not becoming.

Why was I brought into this John? What seems to be your problem today?- Hide quoted text -

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Period.

On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:00:05 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
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John H. wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:06:06 -0400, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run
aground too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.
Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.
LTs should not try this at home.
When I lived along the ICW in Florida, I'd often see boats like yours
wallowing down the ditch, and a couple of miles south of us, about every
two weeks, grounding on what was then an unmarked sandbar.

On good weather days, we'd go out into the Atlantic 20 miles to fish off
some of the manmade reefs. Never saw any trawlerbarges like yours out
there. Sometimes we'd see a trawlerbarge or sailboat just outside the
St. Johns River, waiting for the outgoing tide and current to change so
they could head in to the intersection of the river and the ICW.

I doubt you run outside the ditch heading south in Florida. Why would
you?

Harry, I hate to say this, but you are sounding much like JimH with your
comments - full of jealousy. It's not becoming.


Why was I brought into this John? What seems to be your problem today?


You weren't 'brought into' anything. You were simply used as a comparison.
You're welcome to butt out.

Got it?

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run aground
too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.
Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.

Oh, you'll head in if the weather conditions are right. Bet on it.


Ribbing aside, you are correct, except only to find a safe harbor or marina
until the weather improves.

The ICW is not a desirable option in a larger boat south of the Carolinas,
until you get well south in Florida.

Eisboch



That's correct. It's especially interesting between Georgia and the St.
John's River, and from a few miles north of the St. Augustine seaplane
basin to the Lions' bridge. Not only is the ICW twisty, but if you
deviate a foot from the channel between the "stick" markers, why, you
might run aground.

HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run
aground
too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.
Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.

Oh, you'll head in if the weather conditions are right. Bet on it.


Ribbing aside, you are correct, except only to find a safe harbor or
marina
until the weather improves.

The ICW is not a desirable option in a larger boat south of the
Carolinas,
until you get well south in Florida.

Eisboch



That's correct. It's especially interesting between Georgia and the St.
John's River, and from a few miles north of the St. Augustine seaplane
basin to the Lions' bridge. Not only is the ICW twisty, but if you
deviate a foot from the channel between the "stick" markers, why, you
might run aground.

Harry,
I thought you wondered why anyone would not use the ICW? You now seem
to agree with Wayne and Eisboch that he should run outside. See you can
learn a lot from someone who actually boats.

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run
aground
too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.
Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.

Oh, you'll head in if the weather conditions are right. Bet on it.


Ribbing aside, you are correct, except only to find a safe harbor or
marina
until the weather improves.

The ICW is not a desirable option in a larger boat south of the
Carolinas,
until you get well south in Florida.

Eisboch



That's correct. It's especially interesting between Georgia and the
St. John's River, and from a few miles north of the St. Augustine
seaplane basin to the Lions' bridge. Not only is the ICW twisty, but
if you deviate a foot from the channel between the "stick" markers,
why, you might run aground.

Harry,
I thought you wondered why anyone would not use the ICW? You now seem
to agree with Wayne and Eisboch that he should run outside. See you can
learn a lot from someone who actually boats.



I'm not agreeing, d.f. It's an interesting run, and can be hazardous if
you are careless or don't know what you are doing. Ergo, you probably
should never run the ICW in that area. A waterless lake lanier probably
is appropriate for a non-boater like you.

The area in question is frequented by tugs and barges. They manage to
transit the ICW without serious issues.

The boaters who run into trouble typically are on large cruisers heading
for the sun.

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK
wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run
aground
too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.
Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.

Oh, you'll head in if the weather conditions are right. Bet on it.


Ribbing aside, you are correct, except only to find a safe harbor or
marina
until the weather improves.

The ICW is not a desirable option in a larger boat south of the
Carolinas,
until you get well south in Florida.

Eisboch



That's correct. It's especially interesting between Georgia and the
St. John's River, and from a few miles north of the St. Augustine
seaplane basin to the Lions' bridge. Not only is the ICW twisty, but
if you deviate a foot from the channel between the "stick" markers,
why, you might run aground.

Harry,
I thought you wondered why anyone would not use the ICW? You now seem
to agree with Wayne and Eisboch that he should run outside. See you
can learn a lot from someone who actually boats.



I'm not agreeing, d.f. It's an interesting run, and can be hazardous if
you are careless or don't know what you are doing. Ergo, you probably
should never run the ICW in that area. A waterless lake lanier probably
is appropriate for a non-boater like you.

The area in question is frequented by tugs and barges. They manage to
transit the ICW without serious issues.

The boaters who run into trouble typically are on large cruisers heading
for the sun.

Harry,
Ok, so you now think Eisboch and Wayne are wrong with their assessment
that it is better to wait for good weather and make a run on the
outside? It really is hard to figure out what you are saying because
when you said "That's correct", I thought you were agreeing with Eisboch.

Since Wayne and Eisboch have both made the trip a number of times, I
would assume you have done it a zillion times on the outside and found
it to be the less desirable route every time.

"HK" wrote in message
news

The area in question is frequented by tugs and barges. They manage to
transit the ICW without serious issues.

The boaters who run into trouble typically are on large cruisers heading
for the sun.


I have some really good videos of us passing "close to" some quarter-mile
long barges in the ICW. Interesting and tense, to say the least. If I
can figure out how to post some of them on my website I will try.

On the other hand, those tugs and barges tend to dredge their own channel
while making the transit unlike a smaller boat like the Navigator. Where
they can pass, I might run aground.

Eisboch

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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Since Wayne and Eisboch have both made the trip a number of times, I
would assume you have done it a zillion times on the outside and found
it to be the less desirable route every time.


Correction. Eisboch has done it twice. Barely qualifies as a newbie.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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Since Wayne and Eisboch have both made the trip a number of times, I
would assume you have done it a zillion times on the outside and found
it to be the less desirable route every time.


Correction. Eisboch has done it twice. Barely qualifies as a newbie.

Eisboch


Two does qualify as a number.