Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.

Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's nothing
out in the mid bay.

Really? Are you sure?


I've been out in "mid Chesapeake" a zillion times, Wayne. There's a
couple of little islands directly across the bay from my house,
adjacent to "the other side. There's nothing between here and there
but water, buoys, and a few fishing spots. On most clear days, I can
look across and see the western side of the Eastern Shore.

Now, if you go south towards the lower Bay, there are some islands out
in the Bay a little ways. Been there, too. Maybe you are playing
geographic games and defining "mid Chesapeake" differently, but "mid
Chesapeake" to me means...the navigational channel.

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well,
kinda boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out
there is fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.

Harry,
Since there is nothing to do and boring, why did you do it a zillion
times? I am curious, how did you get out the middle of the bay a
zillion times, and only put 25 hrs a year on your boat? Floating?



How are the flies and rodents doing on Lake Lanier this month?

HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:15:18 -0400, HK wrote:

It's amusing that Harry has taken this sudden interest in large
displacement trawlers. Perhaps he took a little slop over his low
transom during the recent northwesterly tostito that kept him
confined to the Patuxent River. We were out in mid Chesapeake that
day having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.
Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's nothing out
in the mid bay.
Really? Are you sure?

I've been out in "mid Chesapeake" a zillion times, Wayne. There's a
couple of little islands directly across the bay from my house, adjacent
to "the other side. There's nothing between here and there but water,
buoys, and a few fishing spots. On most clear days, I can look across
and see the western side of the Eastern Shore.

Now, if you go south towards the lower Bay, there are some islands out
in the Bay a little ways. Been there, too. Maybe you are playing
geographic games and defining "mid Chesapeake" differently, but "mid
Chesapeake" to me means...the navigational channel.

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well, kinda
boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out there is
fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.


Harry, it's interesting that you often express a "my way or no way"
attitude
about boating. But, then again, you seem to often have that attitude
about
many things.

For example, limiting the boating experience to a small, open boat
that is
used primarily to go fishing in a very limited regional area would
bore me
to tears. But, I understand why it floats other's boats and I even
have a
small boat myself that I occasionally use for that purpose.

Others travel, enjoy the "live-aboard" experience and are intrigued by
navigating to new areas, new ports and seeing new things. Realistically,
you need a big boat with room, comfort and amenities for others
besides just
yourself.

Speaking from a somewhat limited experience when compared to others,
cruising along offshore in a big boat with a destination 150 miles
away can
be a very enjoyable, relaxing and mentally stimulating experience for
some
of us. The challenges of weather, unfamiliar ports and navigation
requirements makes it interesting .... to me anyway.

But, having said all that, I also realize that if you didn't have the
attitude you often express about other people's interests, boating or
otherwise, you would have very little to discuss in this NG.

Not an argument .... just an observation.

Eisboch



"Getting there" on a powerboat to me is not as interesting as "being
there." That's especially true in the middle of the relatively
featureless body of water. I can appreciate that others might like the
nothingness of it. I hate flying long distances, but once I get to an
interesting locale, I typically like it a lot. In other words, I view
the vehicle as a means to an end. I don't much like driving the
Interstate highways, either, but sometimes I like where they lead.

Harry,
Try rereading Eisboch post again, this time focus on his content.

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:15:18 -0400, HK wrote:

It's amusing that Harry has taken this sudden interest in large
displacement trawlers. Perhaps he took a little slop over his low
transom during the recent northwesterly tostito that kept him
confined to the Patuxent River. We were out in mid Chesapeake that
day having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.
Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's nothing
out
in the mid bay.
Really? Are you sure?

I've been out in "mid Chesapeake" a zillion times, Wayne. There's a
couple of little islands directly across the bay from my house,
adjacent
to "the other side. There's nothing between here and there but water,
buoys, and a few fishing spots. On most clear days, I can look across
and see the western side of the Eastern Shore.

Now, if you go south towards the lower Bay, there are some islands out
in the Bay a little ways. Been there, too. Maybe you are playing
geographic games and defining "mid Chesapeake" differently, but "mid
Chesapeake" to me means...the navigational channel.

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well, kinda
boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out there is
fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.


Harry, it's interesting that you often express a "my way or no way"
attitude
about boating. But, then again, you seem to often have that attitude
about
many things.

For example, limiting the boating experience to a small, open boat
that is
used primarily to go fishing in a very limited regional area would
bore me
to tears. But, I understand why it floats other's boats and I even
have a
small boat myself that I occasionally use for that purpose.

Others travel, enjoy the "live-aboard" experience and are intrigued by
navigating to new areas, new ports and seeing new things.
Realistically,
you need a big boat with room, comfort and amenities for others
besides just
yourself.

Speaking from a somewhat limited experience when compared to others,
cruising along offshore in a big boat with a destination 150 miles
away can
be a very enjoyable, relaxing and mentally stimulating experience for
some
of us. The challenges of weather, unfamiliar ports and navigation
requirements makes it interesting .... to me anyway.

But, having said all that, I also realize that if you didn't have the
attitude you often express about other people's interests, boating or
otherwise, you would have very little to discuss in this NG.

Not an argument .... just an observation.

Eisboch



"Getting there" on a powerboat to me is not as interesting as "being
there." That's especially true in the middle of the relatively
featureless body of water. I can appreciate that others might like the
nothingness of it. I hate flying long distances, but once I get to an
interesting locale, I typically like it a lot. In other words, I view
the vehicle as a means to an end. I don't much like driving the
Interstate highways, either, but sometimes I like where they lead.

Harry,
Try rereading Eisboch post again, this time focus on his content.



Once again, "reggie," I have no more interest in your advice or
questions than I would in a dog turd I walked around on the sidewalk,
other than noticing the smell was about the same.

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.

Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's nothing
out in the mid bay.

Really? Are you sure?


I've been out in "mid Chesapeake" a zillion times, Wayne. There's a
couple of little islands directly across the bay from my house,
adjacent to "the other side. There's nothing between here and there
but water, buoys, and a few fishing spots. On most clear days, I can
look across and see the western side of the Eastern Shore.

Now, if you go south towards the lower Bay, there are some islands
out in the Bay a little ways. Been there, too. Maybe you are playing
geographic games and defining "mid Chesapeake" differently, but "mid
Chesapeake" to me means...the navigational channel.

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well,
kinda boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out
there is fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.

Harry,
Since there is nothing to do and boring, why did you do it a zillion
times? I am curious, how did you get out the middle of the bay a
zillion times, and only put 25 hrs a year on your boat? Floating?



How are the flies and rodents doing on Lake Lanier this month?

I have never known of a fly problem on the lake, and the only rodent I
ever see is one of these:
http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/No...eaverPhoto.jpg

I am curious as to why you would want to go and do something a zillon
times that you find boring. It really just doesn't make any sense.

It really seems that there is very little you enjoy about boating,
except talking about boating.

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.

Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's nothing
out in the mid bay.

Really? Are you sure?


I've been out in "mid Chesapeake" a zillion times, Wayne. There's a
couple of little islands directly across the bay from my house,
adjacent to "the other side. There's nothing between here and there
but water, buoys, and a few fishing spots. On most clear days, I can
look across and see the western side of the Eastern Shore.

Now, if you go south towards the lower Bay, there are some islands
out in the Bay a little ways. Been there, too. Maybe you are playing
geographic games and defining "mid Chesapeake" differently, but "mid
Chesapeake" to me means...the navigational channel.

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well,
kinda boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out
there is fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.

Harry,
Since there is nothing to do and boring, why did you do it a zillion
times? I am curious, how did you get out the middle of the bay a
zillion times, and only put 25 hrs a year on your boat? Floating?



How are the flies and rodents doing on Lake Lanier this month?

I have never known of a fly problem on the lake, and the only rodent I
ever see is one of these:
http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/No...eaverPhoto.jpg

I am curious as to why you would want to go and do something a zillon
times that you find boring. It really just doesn't make any sense.

It really seems that there is very little you enjoy about boating,
except talking about boating.


Once again, "reggie," I have no more interest in your advice or
questions than I would in a dog turd I walked around on the sidewalk,
other than noticing the smell was about the same.

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.

Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's
nothing out in the mid bay.

Really? Are you sure?


I've been out in "mid Chesapeake" a zillion times, Wayne. There's a
couple of little islands directly across the bay from my house,
adjacent to "the other side. There's nothing between here and there
but water, buoys, and a few fishing spots. On most clear days, I
can look across and see the western side of the Eastern Shore.

Now, if you go south towards the lower Bay, there are some islands
out in the Bay a little ways. Been there, too. Maybe you are
playing geographic games and defining "mid Chesapeake" differently,
but "mid Chesapeake" to me means...the navigational channel.

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well,
kinda boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out
there is fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.

Harry,
Since there is nothing to do and boring, why did you do it a zillion
times? I am curious, how did you get out the middle of the bay a
zillion times, and only put 25 hrs a year on your boat? Floating?



How are the flies and rodents doing on Lake Lanier this month?

I have never known of a fly problem on the lake, and the only rodent I
ever see is one of these:
http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/No...eaverPhoto.jpg


I am curious as to why you would want to go and do something a zillon
times that you find boring. It really just doesn't make any sense.

It really seems that there is very little you enjoy about boating,
except talking about boating.


Once again, "reggie," I have no more interest in your advice or
questions than I would in a dog turd I walked around on the sidewalk,
other than noticing the smell was about the same.

Have you noticed that you seem to thrill on using high school insults,
yet they only thing I have ever done is point out the obvious
inconsistencies in your many insults and statements.

So do you see many rodents up your way. I hope you finally took my
suggestion and allow your wildlife to eat a healthy. natural varied
diet, and have stopped feeding them your table scraps.

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.

Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's
nothing out in the mid bay.

Really? Are you sure?


I've been out in "mid Chesapeake" a zillion times, Wayne. There's
a couple of little islands directly across the bay from my house,
adjacent to "the other side. There's nothing between here and
there but water, buoys, and a few fishing spots. On most clear
days, I can look across and see the western side of the Eastern
Shore.

Now, if you go south towards the lower Bay, there are some islands
out in the Bay a little ways. Been there, too. Maybe you are
playing geographic games and defining "mid Chesapeake"
differently, but "mid Chesapeake" to me means...the navigational
channel.

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well,
kinda boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out
there is fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.

Harry,
Since there is nothing to do and boring, why did you do it a
zillion times? I am curious, how did you get out the middle of the
bay a zillion times, and only put 25 hrs a year on your boat?
Floating?



How are the flies and rodents doing on Lake Lanier this month?

I have never known of a fly problem on the lake, and the only rodent
I ever see is one of these:
http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/No...eaverPhoto.jpg


I am curious as to why you would want to go and do something a zillon
times that you find boring. It really just doesn't make any sense.

It really seems that there is very little you enjoy about boating,
except talking about boating.


Once again, "reggie," I have no more interest in your advice or
questions than I would in a dog turd I walked around on the sidewalk,
other than noticing the smell was about the same.

Have you noticed that you seem to thrill on using high school insults,
yet they only thing I have ever done is point out the obvious
inconsistencies in your many insults and statements.

So do you see many rodents up your way. I hope you finally took my
suggestion and allow your wildlife to eat a healthy. natural varied
diet, and have stopped feeding them your table scraps.



Once again, "reggie," I have no more interest in your advice or
questions than I would in a dog turd I walked around on the sidewalk,
other than noticing the smell was about the same.

HK wrote:

questions than I would in a dog turd I walked around on the sidewalk,
other than noticing the smell was about the same.

Have you noticed that you seem to thrill on using high school insults,
yet they only thing I have ever done is point out the obvious
inconsistencies in your many insults and statements.

So do you see many rodents up your way. I hope you finally took my
suggestion and allow your wildlife to eat a healthy. natural varied
diet, and have stopped feeding them your table scraps.



Once again, "reggie," I have no more interest in your advice or
questions than I would in a dog turd I walked around on the sidewalk,
other than noticing the smell was about the same.

Then why did you ask me about lake lanier rodents?

"HK" wrote in message
. ..



"Getting there" on a powerboat to me is not as interesting as "being
there." That's especially true in the middle of the relatively
featureless body of water. I can appreciate that others might like the
nothingness of it. I hate flying long distances, but once I get to an
interesting locale, I typically like it a lot. In other words, I view
the vehicle as a means to an end. I don't much like driving the
Interstate highways, either, but sometimes I like where they lead.


Understood. There are many who share your preference. That does not mean,
however, that those of us that enjoy the voyage as well are screwed up.

Eisboch

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:27:41 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Oct 17, 5:47 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On 17 Oct 2007 13:50:39 -0700, Chuck Gould

wrote:
Retail pricing for a well-appointed Northwest 42 approaches $900,000.
Critics will surely point out that there are a lot of boats available
on the market for less money. The critics are right. The Northwest 42
isn't for everybody, but will most definitely appeal to a group of
experienced boaters with a sophisticated list of features and
characteristics they have learned to look for in a boat; (and who have
the means to enjoy owning a boat built up to a high standard, rather
than down to a low price).

You didn't find it top heavy?

It looks really unbalanced. Not that it is, just looks like it.

Neat article - not my cup of tea unfortunately.

Oh.....I just found this site:

http://nwtrawlers.blogspot.com/

Peter and Jan Whiting are taking the NW 42 down the Pacific Coast.
They're almost to Oregon, and headed to San Diego.

Anybody intersted in how this boat handles in rough weather can check
the blog......this time of year they will have *plenty* of gnarly
weather to deal with. Coastal forecast for Thursday is calling for
sustained winds of 40 knots with higher gusts........("Auntie Em!")

That was interesting - when it's placed in perspective to something
else, it doesn't look bad at all. I don't care for that high bow and
the radar arch looks a little out of place - I would prefer a mast
rather than an arch, but that's a strictly personal opinion.

It would look better with ETECs on that back. :)