On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:58:35 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

It's not a Nordhavn knockoff in the least....Nordhavn's of similar
size are
generally displacement hulls and this boat is semi-displacement. (I
think Nordhavn might have something down in the mid-30's that is a
semi, but I'd have to check to confirm).

It's amusing that Harry has taken this sudden interest in large
displacement trawlers. Perhaps he took a little slop over his low
transom during the recent northwesterly tostito that kept him
confined to the Patuxent River. We were out in mid Chesapeake that
day having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:58:35 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

It's not a Nordhavn knockoff in the least....Nordhavn's of similar
size are
generally displacement hulls and this boat is semi-displacement. (I
think Nordhavn might have something down in the mid-30's that is a
semi, but I'd have to check to confirm).

It's amusing that Harry has taken this sudden interest in large
displacement trawlers. Perhaps he took a little slop over his low
transom during the recent northwesterly tostito that kept him
confined to the Patuxent River. We were out in mid Chesapeake that
day having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.


Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's nothing out
in the mid bay.

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:15:18 -0400, HK wrote:

It's amusing that Harry has taken this sudden interest in large
displacement trawlers. Perhaps he took a little slop over his low
transom during the recent northwesterly tostito that kept him
confined to the Patuxent River. We were out in mid Chesapeake that
day having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.


Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's nothing out
in the mid bay.

Really? Are you sure?

Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:15:18 -0400, HK wrote:

It's amusing that Harry has taken this sudden interest in large
displacement trawlers. Perhaps he took a little slop over his low
transom during the recent northwesterly tostito that kept him
confined to the Patuxent River. We were out in mid Chesapeake that
day having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.

Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's nothing out
in the mid bay.

Really? Are you sure?


I've been out in "mid Chesapeake" a zillion times, Wayne. There's a
couple of little islands directly across the bay from my house, adjacent
to "the other side. There's nothing between here and there but water,
buoys, and a few fishing spots. On most clear days, I can look across
and see the western side of the Eastern Shore.

Now, if you go south towards the lower Bay, there are some islands out
in the Bay a little ways. Been there, too. Maybe you are playing
geographic games and defining "mid Chesapeake" differently, but "mid
Chesapeake" to me means...the navigational channel.

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well, kinda
boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out there is
fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.

HK wrote:
having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.

Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's nothing
out in the mid bay.

Really? Are you sure?


I've been out in "mid Chesapeake" a zillion times, Wayne. There's a
couple of little islands directly across the bay from my house, adjacent
to "the other side. There's nothing between here and there but water,
buoys, and a few fishing spots. On most clear days, I can look across
and see the western side of the Eastern Shore.

Now, if you go south towards the lower Bay, there are some islands out
in the Bay a little ways. Been there, too. Maybe you are playing
geographic games and defining "mid Chesapeake" differently, but "mid
Chesapeake" to me means...the navigational channel.

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well, kinda
boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out there is
fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.

Harry,
Since there is nothing to do and boring, why did you do it a zillion
times? I am curious, how did you get out the middle of the bay a
zillion times, and only put 25 hrs a year on your boat? Floating?

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.

Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's nothing
out in the mid bay.

Really? Are you sure?


I've been out in "mid Chesapeake" a zillion times, Wayne. There's a
couple of little islands directly across the bay from my house,
adjacent to "the other side. There's nothing between here and there
but water, buoys, and a few fishing spots. On most clear days, I can
look across and see the western side of the Eastern Shore.

Now, if you go south towards the lower Bay, there are some islands out
in the Bay a little ways. Been there, too. Maybe you are playing
geographic games and defining "mid Chesapeake" differently, but "mid
Chesapeake" to me means...the navigational channel.

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well,
kinda boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out
there is fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.

Harry,
Since there is nothing to do and boring, why did you do it a zillion
times? I am curious, how did you get out the middle of the bay a
zillion times, and only put 25 hrs a year on your boat? Floating?



How are the flies and rodents doing on Lake Lanier this month?

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.

Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's nothing
out in the mid bay.

Really? Are you sure?


I've been out in "mid Chesapeake" a zillion times, Wayne. There's a
couple of little islands directly across the bay from my house,
adjacent to "the other side. There's nothing between here and there
but water, buoys, and a few fishing spots. On most clear days, I can
look across and see the western side of the Eastern Shore.

Now, if you go south towards the lower Bay, there are some islands
out in the Bay a little ways. Been there, too. Maybe you are playing
geographic games and defining "mid Chesapeake" differently, but "mid
Chesapeake" to me means...the navigational channel.

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well,
kinda boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out
there is fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.

Harry,
Since there is nothing to do and boring, why did you do it a zillion
times? I am curious, how did you get out the middle of the bay a
zillion times, and only put 25 hrs a year on your boat? Floating?



How are the flies and rodents doing on Lake Lanier this month?

I have never known of a fly problem on the lake, and the only rodent I
ever see is one of these:
http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/No...eaverPhoto.jpg

I am curious as to why you would want to go and do something a zillon
times that you find boring. It really just doesn't make any sense.

It really seems that there is very little you enjoy about boating,
except talking about boating.

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:15:18 -0400, HK wrote:

It's amusing that Harry has taken this sudden interest in large
displacement trawlers. Perhaps he took a little slop over his low
transom during the recent northwesterly tostito that kept him
confined to the Patuxent River. We were out in mid Chesapeake that
day having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.

Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's nothing out
in the mid bay.

Really? Are you sure?


I've been out in "mid Chesapeake" a zillion times, Wayne. There's a
couple of little islands directly across the bay from my house, adjacent
to "the other side. There's nothing between here and there but water,
buoys, and a few fishing spots. On most clear days, I can look across
and see the western side of the Eastern Shore.

Now, if you go south towards the lower Bay, there are some islands out
in the Bay a little ways. Been there, too. Maybe you are playing
geographic games and defining "mid Chesapeake" differently, but "mid
Chesapeake" to me means...the navigational channel.

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well, kinda
boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out there is
fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.


Harry, it's interesting that you often express a "my way or no way" attitude
about boating. But, then again, you seem to often have that attitude about
many things.

For example, limiting the boating experience to a small, open boat that is
used primarily to go fishing in a very limited regional area would bore me
to tears. But, I understand why it floats other's boats and I even have a
small boat myself that I occasionally use for that purpose.

Others travel, enjoy the "live-aboard" experience and are intrigued by
navigating to new areas, new ports and seeing new things. Realistically,
you need a big boat with room, comfort and amenities for others besides just
yourself.

Speaking from a somewhat limited experience when compared to others,
cruising along offshore in a big boat with a destination 150 miles away can
be a very enjoyable, relaxing and mentally stimulating experience for some
of us. The challenges of weather, unfamiliar ports and navigation
requirements makes it interesting .... to me anyway.

But, having said all that, I also realize that if you didn't have the
attitude you often express about other people's interests, boating or
otherwise, you would have very little to discuss in this NG.

Not an argument .... just an observation.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:15:18 -0400, HK wrote:

It's amusing that Harry has taken this sudden interest in large
displacement trawlers. Perhaps he took a little slop over his low
transom during the recent northwesterly tostito that kept him
confined to the Patuxent River. We were out in mid Chesapeake that
day having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.
Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's nothing out
in the mid bay.
Really? Are you sure?

I've been out in "mid Chesapeake" a zillion times, Wayne. There's a
couple of little islands directly across the bay from my house, adjacent
to "the other side. There's nothing between here and there but water,
buoys, and a few fishing spots. On most clear days, I can look across
and see the western side of the Eastern Shore.

Now, if you go south towards the lower Bay, there are some islands out
in the Bay a little ways. Been there, too. Maybe you are playing
geographic games and defining "mid Chesapeake" differently, but "mid
Chesapeake" to me means...the navigational channel.

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well, kinda
boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out there is
fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.


Harry, it's interesting that you often express a "my way or no way" attitude
about boating. But, then again, you seem to often have that attitude about
many things.

For example, limiting the boating experience to a small, open boat that is
used primarily to go fishing in a very limited regional area would bore me
to tears. But, I understand why it floats other's boats and I even have a
small boat myself that I occasionally use for that purpose.

Others travel, enjoy the "live-aboard" experience and are intrigued by
navigating to new areas, new ports and seeing new things. Realistically,
you need a big boat with room, comfort and amenities for others besides just
yourself.

Speaking from a somewhat limited experience when compared to others,
cruising along offshore in a big boat with a destination 150 miles away can
be a very enjoyable, relaxing and mentally stimulating experience for some
of us. The challenges of weather, unfamiliar ports and navigation
requirements makes it interesting .... to me anyway.

But, having said all that, I also realize that if you didn't have the
attitude you often express about other people's interests, boating or
otherwise, you would have very little to discuss in this NG.

Not an argument .... just an observation.

Eisboch



"Getting there" on a powerboat to me is not as interesting as "being
there." That's especially true in the middle of the relatively
featureless body of water. I can appreciate that others might like the
nothingness of it. I hate flying long distances, but once I get to an
interesting locale, I typically like it a lot. In other words, I view
the vehicle as a means to an end. I don't much like driving the
Interstate highways, either, but sometimes I like where they lead.

HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:15:18 -0400, HK wrote:

It's amusing that Harry has taken this sudden interest in large
displacement trawlers. Perhaps he took a little slop over his low
transom during the recent northwesterly tostito that kept him
confined to the Patuxent River. We were out in mid Chesapeake that
day having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.
Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's nothing out
in the mid bay.
Really? Are you sure?

I've been out in "mid Chesapeake" a zillion times, Wayne. There's a
couple of little islands directly across the bay from my house, adjacent
to "the other side. There's nothing between here and there but water,
buoys, and a few fishing spots. On most clear days, I can look across
and see the western side of the Eastern Shore.

Now, if you go south towards the lower Bay, there are some islands out
in the Bay a little ways. Been there, too. Maybe you are playing
geographic games and defining "mid Chesapeake" differently, but "mid
Chesapeake" to me means...the navigational channel.

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well, kinda
boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out there is
fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.


Harry, it's interesting that you often express a "my way or no way"
attitude
about boating. But, then again, you seem to often have that attitude
about
many things.

For example, limiting the boating experience to a small, open boat
that is
used primarily to go fishing in a very limited regional area would
bore me
to tears. But, I understand why it floats other's boats and I even
have a
small boat myself that I occasionally use for that purpose.

Others travel, enjoy the "live-aboard" experience and are intrigued by
navigating to new areas, new ports and seeing new things. Realistically,
you need a big boat with room, comfort and amenities for others
besides just
yourself.

Speaking from a somewhat limited experience when compared to others,
cruising along offshore in a big boat with a destination 150 miles
away can
be a very enjoyable, relaxing and mentally stimulating experience for
some
of us. The challenges of weather, unfamiliar ports and navigation
requirements makes it interesting .... to me anyway.

But, having said all that, I also realize that if you didn't have the
attitude you often express about other people's interests, boating or
otherwise, you would have very little to discuss in this NG.

Not an argument .... just an observation.

Eisboch



"Getting there" on a powerboat to me is not as interesting as "being
there." That's especially true in the middle of the relatively
featureless body of water. I can appreciate that others might like the
nothingness of it. I hate flying long distances, but once I get to an
interesting locale, I typically like it a lot. In other words, I view
the vehicle as a means to an end. I don't much like driving the
Interstate highways, either, but sometimes I like where they lead.

Harry,
Try rereading Eisboch post again, this time focus on his content.