|
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 22, 8:51 am, wrote:
On Oct 21, 8:19 pm, wrote: On Oct 21, 10:33 am, wrote: On Oct 20, 1:21 pm, wrote: On Oct 20, 12:33 pm, wrote: On Oct 20, 9:22 am, wrote: On Oct 20, 9:03 am, Tim wrote: This DOES look bad! http://news.aol.com/story/_a/officia...s-in-atlanta/2... Ok, I have only been watching what I see on the news but is the corps still blowing water out the dams for no apparant reason (as they have suggested in some reports)? Yes, they are. And as this lake gets smaller, and the story and visuals get bigger, does it serve to help the Global taxing crowd prove their points? Jeez, talking about black helicopters! Do you think that liberals somehow conjured up the drought to be able to prove that global warming exists? Who exactly is this "Global taxing crowd" you speak of? No, and I probably said this wrong. What I really meant is from what I know and have seen, (I have lived down there too) the corps never seem to have any accountability, just do what they see fit, kinda' like the FED. And I did not mean the corps had golbal taxing in mind but I am wondering if the corps actions will give the GT crowd more ammo, and if so if it would be a legit arguement...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The Corp can do nothing except what is in some manual, etc. That is why they are refusing to use any good sense in this issue. There is a court ordered amount of water that they must release, and that is just what they will do, unless we can stop them somehow, until the last drop flows out. I'm wondering, because they are unable to use ANY judgement of their own accord, what they'll do to keep water flowing out of the dam after the lake has dried up!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ok, the guy (I saw on the news) was probably being somewhat sarcastic but he said it was about saving some muscles and fish down river. Sounds like some green group got a law passed at one point that could really backfire, do I got this right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There are several reasons for the corp being forced by law to release a given amount of water. One is some fresh water mussel in FL. And no, it wasn't some "green group". There are downstream generating plants, downstream places that use the water for drinking, etc.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The pictures are incredible, I do feel for you guys. Any figures on how many acres the lake has "lost" or ground gained as it were? |
Lake Lanier drying up?
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:14:20 -0400, HK penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? Looks like it is getting tough on the Great Lakes, too.... http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/ny.../22oswego.html Well, I am not going to let them come down to Lake Lanier and use our water, that is for sure. ;) |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 22, 6:35 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:14:20 -0400, HK penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? Looks like it is getting tough on the Great Lakes, too.... http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/ny.../22oswego.html Well, I am not going to let them come down to Lake Lanier and use our water, that is for sure. ;)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Now THAT'S funny! News report this morning says that the Corp will take 6 weeks to review the release of water from Lanier! WTF? They know damned well how much water they release, and how to fix the problems. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 19, 8:53 pm, Dan intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote:
wrote: Who ever told you that it's in that order?? The power generated at Lake Lanier, which in your order is #2, is very little, and alot of times, none. Under normal rain conditions, when downstream waters get replenished by the rain, instead of relying on Lanier, they don't even release water, so no production. As to Harry's comment that first and foremost it's a reservior, that is correct. It's where water is collected and stored. And yes, flood control is part of the reason for the lake, but not necessarily the top reason. As a side note, Lanier wouldn't be in such bad shape if, during this continuing drought, a big mistake had not been made. The Army Corp installed a new lake gauge in winter of '05 and it wasn't calibrated correctly, and they dumped 20 some billion gallons into the Hooch. While that might be true, what do you know about concrete? More than you, and that is true about a lot more than concrete. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 22, 10:18 am, wrote:
On Oct 22, 8:51 am, wrote: On Oct 21, 8:19 pm, wrote: On Oct 21, 10:33 am, wrote: On Oct 20, 1:21 pm, wrote: On Oct 20, 12:33 pm, wrote: On Oct 20, 9:22 am, wrote: On Oct 20, 9:03 am, Tim wrote: This DOES look bad! http://news.aol.com/story/_a/officia...s-in-atlanta/2... Ok, I have only been watching what I see on the news but is the corps still blowing water out the dams for no apparant reason (as they have suggested in some reports)? Yes, they are. And as this lake gets smaller, and the story and visuals get bigger, does it serve to help the Global taxing crowd prove their points? Jeez, talking about black helicopters! Do you think that liberals somehow conjured up the drought to be able to prove that global warming exists? Who exactly is this "Global taxing crowd" you speak of? No, and I probably said this wrong. What I really meant is from what I know and have seen, (I have lived down there too) the corps never seem to have any accountability, just do what they see fit, kinda' like the FED. And I did not mean the corps had golbal taxing in mind but I am wondering if the corps actions will give the GT crowd more ammo, and if so if it would be a legit arguement...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The Corp can do nothing except what is in some manual, etc. That is why they are refusing to use any good sense in this issue. There is a court ordered amount of water that they must release, and that is just what they will do, unless we can stop them somehow, until the last drop flows out. I'm wondering, because they are unable to use ANY judgement of their own accord, what they'll do to keep water flowing out of the dam after the lake has dried up!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ok, the guy (I saw on the news) was probably being somewhat sarcastic but he said it was about saving some muscles and fish down river. Sounds like some green group got a law passed at one point that could really backfire, do I got this right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There are several reasons for the corp being forced by law to release a given amount of water. One is some fresh water mussel in FL. And no, it wasn't some "green group". There are downstream generating plants, downstream places that use the water for drinking, etc.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The pictures are incredible, I do feel for you guys. Any figures on how many acres the lake has "lost" or ground gained as it were?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I've not seen any. Hell, the way the corp is still running water out of it, it'd change daily! The last news I've heard (this morning) is that the corp needs six weeks to review their release practices! Now, we'll still have water, but what happens is that if we pump below the "conservation level", that with what we take out of Lanier, it will never catch up with normal weather. We'd need a good tropical storm or three to help! |
Lake Lanier drying up?
We've been geting tremendous amounts of rain here, all last night up
until about 4:30 pm today it's been a good soaker. and healthy chances every day for the rest of the week. i don't think it will help Lanier and Altoona much but I hope some people down south get some benefit from it. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
Chuck, this is up in your neck of the woods (no pun intended)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071023/...shing_glaciers |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 23, 6:51 pm, Tim wrote:
We've been geting tremendous amounts of rain here, all last night up until about 4:30 pm today it's been a good soaker. and healthy chances every day for the rest of the week. i don't think it will help Lanier and Altoona much but I hope some people down south get some benefit from it. Rained an inch or so at my house last night, more (but very little) coming today. Long range forcast is for a drier than normal winter, because it's a la Nina year. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
wrote: On Oct 22, 6:35 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:14:20 -0400, HK penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? Looks like it is getting tough on the Great Lakes, too.... http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/ny.../22oswego.html Well, I am not going to let them come down to Lake Lanier and use our water, that is for sure. ;)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Now THAT'S funny! News report this morning says that the Corp will take 6 weeks to review the release of water from Lanier! WTF? They know damned well how much water they release, and how to fix the problems. I just barely caught a piece of the news (enough to be dangerous) that the Alabama Gov. is hacked off at the Geo. Gov, about not getting enough water to cool a nuclear power plant? and is wanting more? or something like that. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:00:40 -0000, penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Oct 22, 6:35 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: | Gene Kearns wrote: | On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:14:20 -0400, HK penned the following well | considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | | CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels | are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, | a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. | | Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead | shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. | | What's the impact on boating? | | Looks like it is getting tough on the Great Lakes, too.... | http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/ny.../22oswego.html | | Well, I am not going to let them come down to Lake Lanier and use our | water, that is for sure. ;)- Hide quoted text - | | - Show quoted text - | |Now THAT'S funny! News report this morning says that the Corp will |take 6 weeks to review the release of water from Lanier! WTF? They |know damned well how much water they release, and how to fix the |problems. Seems to me that GA, as first steward in a serial path, is responsible for controlling the amount of demand on a finite supply. They have allowed expansion beyond what nature is willing to provide, on an ongoing basis. They need to stop whining and address the *real* problem..... allowing overpopulation in sensitive areas. This is just as stoopid as building on the shoreline and wanting somebody to buy you out of trouble when a hurricane makes your dwelling disappear. -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
Lake Lanier drying up?
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:00:40 -0000, penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Oct 22, 6:35 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: | Gene Kearns wrote: | On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:14:20 -0400, HK penned the following well | considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | | CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels | are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, | a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. | | Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead | shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. | | What's the impact on boating? | | Looks like it is getting tough on the Great Lakes, too.... | http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/ny.../22oswego.html | | Well, I am not going to let them come down to Lake Lanier and use our | water, that is for sure. ;)- Hide quoted text - | | - Show quoted text - | |Now THAT'S funny! News report this morning says that the Corp will |take 6 weeks to review the release of water from Lanier! WTF? They |know damned well how much water they release, and how to fix the |problems. Seems to me that GA, as first steward in a serial path, is responsible for controlling the amount of demand on a finite supply. They have allowed expansion beyond what nature is willing to provide, on an ongoing basis. They need to stop whining and address the *real* problem..... allowing overpopulation in sensitive areas. This is just as stoopid as building on the shoreline and wanting somebody to buy you out of trouble when a hurricane makes your dwelling disappear. Indeed. It also annoys me that my homeowners' premium reflects the losses for those who choose to live dangerously. I chose NOT to build my house on the edge of insanity, and yet my premium covers some of the cost of providing insurance for those who do. If you live on a low shoreline, or in a flood plain, or in an area of earthquakes or frequent hurricanes or forest fires, the cost of providing you with insurance should be borne by you and others who live in dangerous areas like yours, not by me. I live next to Cheseapeake Bay, but my house is approximately 120' above sea level. If we're flooded out by the Bay, well, so is the rest of the east coast all the way to Ohio. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 24, 12:48 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:00:40 -0000, penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Oct 22, 6:35 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers wrote: | Gene Kearns wrote: | On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:14:20 -0400, HK penned the following well | considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | | CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels | are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, | a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. | | Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead | shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. | | What's the impact on boating? | | Looks like it is getting tough on the Great Lakes, too.... | http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/ny.../22oswego.html | | Well, I am not going to let them come down to Lake Lanier and use our | water, that is for sure. ;)- Hide quoted text - | | - Show quoted text - | |Now THAT'S funny! News report this morning says that the Corp will |take 6 weeks to review the release of water from Lanier! WTF? They |know damned well how much water they release, and how to fix the |problems. Seems to me that GA, as first steward in a serial path, is responsible for controlling the amount of demand on a finite supply. They have allowed expansion beyond what nature is willing to provide, on an ongoing basis. They need to stop whining and address the *real* problem..... allowing overpopulation in sensitive areas. This is just as stoopid as building on the shoreline and wanting somebody to buy you out of trouble when a hurricane makes your dwelling disappear. -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats -----------------www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com- *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- Gene, it's not just Georgia. Hell, Alabama, downstream, doesn't have ANY water conservation regulations. Then, if we want to regulate outflow, the Gov. of Alabama has a hissy fit! There is plenty of water for us. The problem is with the corp allowing the water to run freely into the gulf. This is a free country, and people are allowed to move here if they like, just like they are allowed to move elsewhere. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 24, 12:57 pm, HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote: On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:00:40 -0000, penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Oct 22, 6:35 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: | Gene Kearns wrote: | On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:14:20 -0400, HK penned the following well | considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | | CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels | are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, | a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. | | Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead | shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. | | What's the impact on boating? | | Looks like it is getting tough on the Great Lakes, too.... | http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/ny.../22oswego.html | | Well, I am not going to let them come down to Lake Lanier and use our | water, that is for sure. ;)- Hide quoted text - | | - Show quoted text - | |Now THAT'S funny! News report this morning says that the Corp will |take 6 weeks to review the release of water from Lanier! WTF? They |know damned well how much water they release, and how to fix the |problems. Seems to me that GA, as first steward in a serial path, is responsible for controlling the amount of demand on a finite supply. They have allowed expansion beyond what nature is willing to provide, on an ongoing basis. They need to stop whining and address the *real* problem..... allowing overpopulation in sensitive areas. This is just as stoopid as building on the shoreline and wanting somebody to buy you out of trouble when a hurricane makes your dwelling disappear. Indeed. It also annoys me that my homeowners' premium reflects the losses for those who choose to live dangerously. I chose NOT to build my house on the edge of insanity, and yet my premium covers some of the cost of providing insurance for those who do. If you live on a low shoreline, or in a flood plain, or in an area of earthquakes or frequent hurricanes or forest fires, the cost of providing you with insurance should be borne by you and others who live in dangerous areas like yours, not by me. I live next to Cheseapeake Bay, but my house is approximately 120' above sea level. If we're flooded out by the Bay, well, so is the rest of the east coast all the way to Ohio.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I agree that you and I shouldn't have to pay for someone else's indescretions. But, in a free society, people are allowed to move and build. Maybe you are causing my health care premiums to rise because you're close to a body of water, and creating a greater risk of you getting a disease from mosquitoes. There is no perfect place to live, and no perfect solution. Where you live is, in fact in a higher wind speed area, and that burden falls upon others in their insurance premiums. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:22:53 -0000, penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | |Gene, it's not just Georgia. Hell, Alabama, downstream, doesn't have |ANY water conservation regulations. Then, if we want to regulate |outflow, the Gov. of Alabama has a hissy fit! There is plenty of water |for us. The problem is with the corp allowing the water to run freely |into the gulf. This is a free country, and people are allowed to move |here if they like, just like they are allowed to move elsewhere. You do have zoning ordinances. They can control population density, where appropriate. -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 24, 12:10 pm, Tim wrote:
wrote: On Oct 22, 6:35 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:14:20 -0400, HK penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? Looks like it is getting tough on the Great Lakes, too.... http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/ny.../22oswego.html Well, I am not going to let them come down to Lake Lanier and use our water, that is for sure. ;)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Now THAT'S funny! News report this morning says that the Corp will take 6 weeks to review the release of water from Lanier! WTF? They know damned well how much water they release, and how to fix the problems. I just barely caught a piece of the news (enough to be dangerous) that the Alabama Gov. is hacked off at the Geo. Gov, about not getting enough water to cool a nuclear power plant? and is wanting more? or something like that.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't know about a nuke plant, but he is certainly whining! The trouble is, he is doing nothing BUT whining. Our Gov. is taking steps to conserve, even limiting use by "high demand" entities by 10%. But in Alabama, they aren't taking ANY precautions, and have absolutely no conservation regulations. You can wash your car every hour if you want with the water that the Army Corp of Engineers is releasing from Lanier if you live in Alabama! How's that for irony? |
Lake Lanier drying up?
"HK" wrote in message . .. Indeed. It also annoys me that my homeowners' premium reflects the losses for those who choose to live dangerously. I chose NOT to build my house on the edge of insanity, and yet my premium covers some of the cost of providing insurance for those who do. Holy Crap! Harry, you are turning into a republican! Eisboch |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:29:20 -0400, Reginald P. Smithers III penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: wrote: | On Oct 24, 12:57 pm, HK wrote: | Gene Kearns wrote: | On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:00:40 -0000, penned the | following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | |On Oct 22, 6:35 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" | wrote: | | Gene Kearns wrote: | | On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:14:20 -0400, HK penned the following well | | considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | | | | CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels | | are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, | | a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. | | | | Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead | | shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. | | | | What's the impact on boating? | | | | Looks like it is getting tough on the Great Lakes, too.... | | http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/ny.../22oswego.html | | | | Well, I am not going to let them come down to Lake Lanier and use our | | water, that is for sure. ;)- Hide quoted text - | | | | - Show quoted text - | | | |Now THAT'S funny! News report this morning says that the Corp will | |take 6 weeks to review the release of water from Lanier! WTF? They | |know damned well how much water they release, and how to fix the | |problems. | Seems to me that GA, as first steward in a serial path, is responsible | for controlling the amount of demand on a finite supply. They have | allowed expansion beyond what nature is willing to provide, on an | ongoing basis. They need to stop whining and address the *real* | problem..... allowing overpopulation in sensitive areas. | This is just as stoopid as building on the shoreline and wanting | somebody to buy you out of trouble when a hurricane makes your | dwelling disappear. | Indeed. It also annoys me that my homeowners' premium reflects the | losses for those who choose to live dangerously. I chose NOT to build my | house on the edge of insanity, and yet my premium covers some of the | cost of providing insurance for those who do. | | If you live on a low shoreline, or in a flood plain, or in an area of | earthquakes or frequent hurricanes or forest fires, the cost of | providing you with insurance should be borne by you and others who live | in dangerous areas like yours, not by me. | | I live next to Cheseapeake Bay, but my house is approximately 120' above | sea level. If we're flooded out by the Bay, well, so is the rest of the | east coast all the way to Ohio.- Hide quoted text - | | - Show quoted text - | | I agree that you and I shouldn't have to pay for someone else's | indescretions. But, in a free society, people are allowed to move and | build. Maybe you are causing my health care premiums to rise because | you're close to a body of water, and creating a greater risk of you | getting a disease from mosquitoes. There is no perfect place to live, | and no perfect solution. Where you live is, in fact in a higher wind | speed area, and that burden falls upon others in their insurance | premiums. | | |Harry is safe from floods, but anyone on the coast is more likely to be |hit with a strong hurricane than one who lives inland. I really don't |know if insurance companies charge a premium based upon location, but |they really should. Oh.... you bet they do! Either that or they refuse coverage all together. One approach: http://www.insurancejournal.com/news...7/23/30901.htm Insurance is a managed risk. The problem arises when the risk is unmanageable. If you build right on the water, you know you are going to float away every 4-5 years.... Harry is at more risk with regard to hurricanes than somebody living safely in Kansas.... but then, there *are* those tornadoes..... I don't know where you would live, if you sought *no* risk. I am quite sure that if you build clearly in harms way...... it's just a matter of time..... -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
Lake Lanier drying up?
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. Indeed. It also annoys me that my homeowners' premium reflects the losses for those who choose to live dangerously. I chose NOT to build my house on the edge of insanity, and yet my premium covers some of the cost of providing insurance for those who do. Holy Crap! Harry, you are turning into a republican! Eisboch Ouch, now you step over the line. ;) |
Lake Lanier drying up?
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. Indeed. It also annoys me that my homeowners' premium reflects the losses for those who choose to live dangerously. I chose NOT to build my house on the edge of insanity, and yet my premium covers some of the cost of providing insurance for those who do. Holy Crap! Harry, you are turning into a republican! Eisboch My mother was a Republican in an era when Republican officeholders were not beholden to the Christian ayatollahs. I worked as a volunteer for our local Italian Republican congressman, Albert Cretella, when I was a high schooler. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Indeed. It also annoys me that my homeowners' premium reflects the losses for those who choose to live dangerously. I chose NOT to build my house on the edge of insanity, and yet my premium covers some of the cost of providing insurance for those who do. Holy Crap! Harry, you are turning into a republican! Eisboch My mother was a Republican in an era when Republican officeholders were not beholden to the Christian ayatollahs. I worked as a volunteer for our local Italian Republican congressman, Albert Cretella, when I was a high schooler. Harry, What makes you think you are paying for those in the areas likely to flood? |
Lake Lanier drying up?
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Indeed. It also annoys me that my homeowners' premium reflects the losses for those who choose to live dangerously. I chose NOT to build my house on the edge of insanity, and yet my premium covers some of the cost of providing insurance for those who do. Holy Crap! Harry, you are turning into a republican! Eisboch My mother was a Republican in an era when Republican officeholders were not beholden to the Christian ayatollahs. I worked as a volunteer for our local Italian Republican congressman, Albert Cretella, when I was a high schooler. Harry, What makes you think you are paying for those in the areas likely to flood? Reggie Why do you keep asking me questions or offering me advice? |
Lake Lanier drying up?
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Indeed. It also annoys me that my homeowners' premium reflects the losses for those who choose to live dangerously. I chose NOT to build my house on the edge of insanity, and yet my premium covers some of the cost of providing insurance for those who do. Holy Crap! Harry, you are turning into a republican! Eisboch My mother was a Republican in an era when Republican officeholders were not beholden to the Christian ayatollahs. I worked as a volunteer for our local Italian Republican congressman, Albert Cretella, when I was a high schooler. Harry, What makes you think you are paying for those in the areas likely to flood? Reggie Why do you keep asking me questions or offering me advice? So what makes you think you are paying for living in an area likely to flood? I would recommend you look for another insurance carrier. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
So what makes you think you are paying for living in an area likely to flood? I would recommend you look for another insurance carrier. Harry, This reason I ask, is in my state ( and I thought in all states) flooding is not covered by your normal household insurance, you have to buy separate insurance just to cover floods. So if you are 100 ft. above sea level, you really should not be buying flood insurance. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: So if you are 100 ft. above sea level, you really should not be buying flood insurance. I'm sure your advice will be well-received by those who live near rivers that leave their banks. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Indeed. It also annoys me that my homeowners' premium reflects the losses for those who choose to live dangerously. I chose NOT to build my house on the edge of insanity, and yet my premium covers some of the cost of providing insurance for those who do. Holy Crap! Harry, you are turning into a republican! Eisboch My mother was a Republican in an era when Republican officeholders were not beholden to the Christian ayatollahs. I worked as a volunteer for our local Italian Republican congressman, Albert Cretella, when I was a high schooler. Harry, What makes you think you are paying for those in the areas likely to flood? Reggie Why do you keep asking me questions or offering me advice? So what makes you think you are paying for living in an area likely to flood? I would recommend you look for another insurance carrier. You're ever the a**hole, eh, Reggie? |
Lake Lanier drying up?
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: So if you are 100 ft. above sea level, you really should not be buying flood insurance. I'm sure your advice will be well-received by those who live near rivers that leave their banks. Harry, I am just trying to help you understand your homeowners insurance. I am sure many people have your misunderstanding about your homeowners insurance. Flood Insurance covers damage caused by any kind of flood damage, including hurricane surge. Since you are 100 ft. above sea level, you have a very low risk of being hit by a storm surge. Hence, you really should not be buying Flood Insurance. If you insurance carrier is charging you for Flood Insurance, you are being ripped off. So while you should be paying a premium to be living next to an open area that does have a higher risk from strong winds, you should not be paying a penny more because people are building in a flood plan. I hope this explanation helps. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Indeed. It also annoys me that my homeowners' premium reflects the losses for those who choose to live dangerously. I chose NOT to build my house on the edge of insanity, and yet my premium covers some of the cost of providing insurance for those who do. Holy Crap! Harry, you are turning into a republican! Eisboch My mother was a Republican in an era when Republican officeholders were not beholden to the Christian ayatollahs. I worked as a volunteer for our local Italian Republican congressman, Albert Cretella, when I was a high schooler. Harry, What makes you think you are paying for those in the areas likely to flood? Reggie Why do you keep asking me questions or offering me advice? So what makes you think you are paying for living in an area likely to flood? I would recommend you look for another insurance carrier. You're ever the a**hole, eh, Reggie? Harry, you know Reggie's only purpose here is to try to pick fights with a select few here. This is obvious in this thread. Based on the posts I see in this NG he alone wears the badge of trouble maker here. He refuses to change and improve the quality of this NG. Ignore him. He is not worth a second thought. JimH, how is this picking a fight? |
Lake Lanier drying up?
"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Indeed. It also annoys me that my homeowners' premium reflects the losses for those who choose to live dangerously. I chose NOT to build my house on the edge of insanity, and yet my premium covers some of the cost of providing insurance for those who do. Holy Crap! Harry, you are turning into a republican! Eisboch My mother was a Republican in an era when Republican officeholders were not beholden to the Christian ayatollahs. I worked as a volunteer for our local Italian Republican congressman, Albert Cretella, when I was a high schooler. Damm .... a good joke wasted... Eisboch |
Lake Lanier drying up?
|
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 24, 2:28 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:22:53 -0000, penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | |Gene, it's not just Georgia. Hell, Alabama, downstream, doesn't have |ANY water conservation regulations. Then, if we want to regulate |outflow, the Gov. of Alabama has a hissy fit! There is plenty of water |for us. The problem is with the corp allowing the water to run freely |into the gulf. This is a free country, and people are allowed to move |here if they like, just like they are allowed to move elsewhere. You do have zoning ordinances. They can control population density, where appropriate. -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats -----------------www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com- *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- They do, and are quite stringent compared to the rest of the more populated areas of the country. How are we to control what Alabama does? |
Lake Lanier drying up?
|
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:21:09 -0000, penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |They do, and are quite stringent compared to the rest of the more |populated areas of the country. How are we to control what Alabama |does? I don't think I would adopt that as a meaningful project until water flows up hill..... -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 25, 1:06 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:21:09 -0000, penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |They do, and are quite stringent compared to the rest of the more |populated areas of the country. How are we to control what Alabama |does? I don't think I would adopt that as a meaningful project until water flows up hill..... Adopt what as a meaningful project? |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:24:35 -0000, penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Oct 25, 1:06 pm, Gene Kearns |wrote: | On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:21:09 -0000, penned the | following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | | |They do, and are quite stringent compared to the rest of the more | |populated areas of the country. How are we to control what Alabama | |does? | | I don't think I would adopt that as a meaningful project until water | flows up hill..... | |Adopt what as a meaningful project? "How are we to control what Alabama does?" -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 26, 11:18 am, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:24:35 -0000, penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Oct 25, 1:06 pm, Gene Kearns |wrote: | On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:21:09 -0000, penned the | following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | | |They do, and are quite stringent compared to the rest of the more | |populated areas of the country. How are we to control what Alabama | |does? | | I don't think I would adopt that as a meaningful project until water | flows up hill..... | |Adopt what as a meaningful project? "How are we to control what Alabama does?" That's a question I asked you. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:39:40 -0000, penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Oct 26, 11:18 am, Gene Kearns wrote: | On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:24:35 -0000, penned the | following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | | |On Oct 25, 1:06 pm, Gene Kearns | |wrote: | | On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:21:09 -0000, penned the | | following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | | | | |They do, and are quite stringent compared to the rest of the more | | |populated areas of the country. How are we to control what Alabama | | |does? | | | | I don't think I would adopt that as a meaningful project until water | | flows up hill..... | | | |Adopt what as a meaningful project? | | "How are we to control what Alabama does?" | |That's a question I asked you. | And my answer was.... ..... as long as you are up-river from Alabama.... what does it matter? Send them the agreed upon amounts and stick with it. Their planning is based upon the agreement. Subsequently, you can't just whine to some judge and get it changed because they have planned in accordance with expectations based on written agreement. Just don't allow unrestricted growth in your own back yard, over-run mother nature's supply to you, and then go looking for help from the next guy(s) down river..... -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
Lake Lanier drying up?
|
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:58:00 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:27:57 -0500, John H. wrote: Another good reason to start building some nuclear plants. Desalinization may be in our future. http://www.iepsac.org/papers/p09a03.htm It is already happening in SW Florida. Cape Coral and Sanibel have big RO plants but it is expensive water. Are they using nuclear power? |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 28, 1:18 pm, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 07:49:40 -0700, wrote: On Oct 19, 9:25 pm, Jack Redington wrote: wrote: On Oct 18, 7:35 pm, Jack Redington wrote: wrote: On Oct 17, 4:58 pm, Tim wrote: wrote: On Oct 16, 2:29 pm, Tim wrote: wrote: From Lake Lanier Army Corp of Engineers website: Constructed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers in the 1950's, Lake Lanier is a multi-purpose lake that provides for flood protection, power production, water supply, navigation, recreation and fish and wildlife management. Same way with Lake Carlyle . that is with exception of power production. It is fed by the Kaskaskia river, and it's level has dropped considerably. it is a huge man made lake and is about 4 mi wide and 10 mi long. But in many places the shore line is rather shallow. in some cases un aprochable with a typical runabout up to 150 ft from shore. But when the lake is full, these spots are usually navagational within 50-75 ft. Still plenty deep in the middle, but unhandy for reaching beach lines. Lake Lanier is fed by two rivers, each runoff from the mountains, so there is a LOT of water being pushed down, normally. Because of downstream concerns plus Atlanta's thirst, they are still, even with drought conditions releasing anywhere from 600 to 900 million gallons per day. Lanier is a really cool lake, because of the mountainous conditions, there are many coves and what used to be creek inlets to explore. How far is your lake down? Lanier is down 12 feet (so far). I don't really know how much it has dropped and really don't know how to find the actual stats, but on the south end the lake is dammed, and there's very little coming over the spill way. kaskaskia isn't a large river, but now it's about like a creek. I saw a bit ont he Weather Channel about Lake Hartwell. It's in bad shape too. fortunately for our area, it's been raining fairly steady for the last three hrs and I did look and saw its steady on Carlyle too. But it won't effect the lake much at all, unless the rains start saturating up north to flow down.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Tim, if it's an Army Corp lake, you can get current stats, predictions, etc from the Corp's website. Yes, Hartwell is in bad shape too. Oconee is the only one in these parts not suffering. I think Hartwell is down about 10-11 ft and things do not look good. Last weekend I had 15 ft under my dock in Gumlog creek. But our place is blessed with deep water. My biggest concern is getting out of Gumlog Creek to the main channel. There is one point that is rather skinny, but I check it last weekend and there is a skinny, but deep path threw it. At this time I am considering if I should get a trailer for the runabout and pull it. If this goes into next year I don't want to be stuck with the boat on the lift and no way to get it out. ie ramp access etc. Capt Jack R.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I've fished up in Gumlog creek. Had a friend who had a place close to there. Lake Lanier is now down 14 feet, they are saying there's enough water for 80 days. Army Corp of Engineers, because of their attitude that no one can make a decision unless it's in some obscure code or law, won't stop; discharging even now! Well if you are ever in the area again let me know. I'll do that, thanks! And I agree, the corp is going to keep doing this even though it really does not make any sense to me. Where I live they pull water from Lanier. I guess when the place is dry they will stop :-( Capt Jack R..- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - As of last night, the state has filed an injunction to try and get this madness stopped. I've dealt with the Corp, and have vowed to never, ever take a project that they are involved in. They get to use zero engineering judgement, and can only do what is spelled out in a manual, or code book. Bull****.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - John, your trash mouth simply shows your blanket *Army can do know wrong* rhetoric. I've dealt with the corp. Many times. I know how they operate, as opposed to how civilian engineers operate. And my statement is true. They get to use no judgement. Let's say that I design a simple span beam. Now, I've done the math, I know the loads, I've added a factor of safety, etc. etc. Now, the Corp wants to see any and all calculations. If I take one step in those calculations that is known good engineering, but is not completely spelled out in a code book, or one of the corps manuals, they will not approve it. I've even had a corp engineer tell me that he understands why I did what I did, understands that it works, understands that it is good engineering, but can't approve it because it's not their SOP. |
| All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:40 AM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com