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Lake Lanier drying up?
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:04:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message roups.com... On Oct 15, 7:44?am, wrote: So then you must agree it is OK to alter the course of nature in order to serve the growing human population?- Hide quoted text - Careful, that statement is getting pretty close to recognizing the possibility that a growing human population *could* "alter the course of nature". I have an acquaintance who tells me that we don't need to think about finite resources because god will take care of everything. Yippee, let's get a good religious flame war started! |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:11:39 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Oct 15, 12:04 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 15, 7:44?am, wrote: So then you must agree it is OK to alter the course of nature in order to serve the growing human population?- Hide quoted text - Careful, that statement is getting pretty close to recognizing the possibility that a growing human population *could* "alter the course of nature". I have an acquaintance who tells me that we don't need to think about finite resources because god will take care of everything. If I beleived you I would say your friend is an idiot... God takes care of those who help themselves. Reminds me of an old story. If you believed me? Why wouldn't you? Is it because you've never met anyone like the person I mentioned? Trolling, trolling, over the ocean blue... |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:54:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:54:02 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: On Oct 15, 7:44?am, wrote: So then you must agree it is OK to alter the course of nature in order to serve the growing human population?- Hide quoted text - Careful, that statement is getting pretty close to recognizing the possibility that a growing human population *could* "alter the course of nature". Then slowing down the rate of growth may be a cost effective way of dealing with the problem, as opposed to making Al Gore more wealthy? It would be impossible for it NOT to help, but it's a touchy subject. Zero population growth? Watch the reactions to that in subsequent messages. The emphasis was on cost effective means of dealing with a problem, as opposed to sending money to Al Gore. 'Zero population gowth' is your term, not mine. I'm not trying to engender any reaction to that in any messages. But, it looks like you are. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:04:27 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:04:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message egroups.com... On Oct 15, 7:44?am, wrote: So then you must agree it is OK to alter the course of nature in order to serve the growing human population?- Hide quoted text - Careful, that statement is getting pretty close to recognizing the possibility that a growing human population *could* "alter the course of nature". I have an acquaintance who tells me that we don't need to think about finite resources because god will take care of everything. Yippee, let's get a good religious flame war started! Nah....it's just one example of the various excuses people will use for doing nothing to help the world outside their own home. There are others besides religion. Good. End, hopefully, of discussion. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
HK wrote: Well, that should warm the hearts of boat-buying bargain hunters...lotsa boats for sale. Just add water. LOL! I like that.... |
Lake Lanier drying up?
HK wrote:
CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? While I no longer boat on Lanier, from the news many ramps are closed. At the present time that lake is about 12 below full pool. At least that was the last time I checked. Projections do not look good. Georgia has been in drought conditions all of this year. Spring rains were slight and every month has been a short. So it is not really news anymore. Lanier has several problems when rain is short. For one the drainage basin is small for a lake it's size. And about 6 million people in the Atlanta area depend on it. There is also the fact this this lake is under the Army Corps managment. At present they are letting out about twice the amount of water that is coming in. This has alot to do with the tri-state water war that has been going on since I have been here (about 10 years) The Corps has stated that they are keeping the discharge rate as it is to protect some shellfish that need it in in Florida. That being where the water hit the ocean. Alabama also uses/needs this water. Thus the tri-state angle on the water resources war. As far as impact on boating - Some ramps are closed and there are hazzards to navigation that would not normally exist. But that is what happens when water gets lower them normal. If you are really interested: http://lanier.sam.usace.army.mil/Pre...ersCaution.pdf Capt Jack R.. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
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Lake Lanier drying up?
Jack Redington wrote:
HK wrote: CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? While I no longer boat on Lanier, from the news many ramps are closed. At the present time that lake is about 12 below full pool. At least that was the last time I checked. Projections do not look good. Georgia has been in drought conditions all of this year. Spring rains were slight and every month has been a short. So it is not really news anymore. Lanier has several problems when rain is short. For one the drainage basin is small for a lake it's size. And about 6 million people in the Atlanta area depend on it. There is also the fact this this lake is under the Army Corps managment. At present they are letting out about twice the amount of water that is coming in. This has alot to do with the tri-state water war that has been going on since I have been here (about 10 years) The Corps has stated that they are keeping the discharge rate as it is to protect some shellfish that need it in in Florida. That being where the water hit the ocean. Alabama also uses/needs this water. Thus the tri-state angle on the water resources war. As far as impact on boating - Some ramps are closed and there are hazzards to navigation that would not normally exist. But that is what happens when water gets lower them normal. If you are really interested: http://lanier.sam.usace.army.mil/Pre...ersCaution.pdf Capt Jack R.. I was looking earlier for a current aerial or low satellite photo of the lake, but then I was distracted by work. With all the dead marine life now on the edges of the lake, there must be an insect and rat problem. I don't pay attention to Atlanta weather patterns. Is there a winter rainy season? If not, then the city may be reduced to Homeland Security bringing in water trucks. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. Jack Redington wrote: HK wrote: CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? While I no longer boat on Lanier, from the news many ramps are closed. At the present time that lake is about 12 below full pool. At least that was the last time I checked. Projections do not look good. Georgia has been in drought conditions all of this year. Spring rains were slight and every month has been a short. So it is not really news anymore. Lanier has several problems when rain is short. For one the drainage basin is small for a lake it's size. And about 6 million people in the Atlanta area depend on it. There is also the fact this this lake is under the Army Corps managment. At present they are letting out about twice the amount of water that is coming in. This has alot to do with the tri-state water war that has been going on since I have been here (about 10 years) The Corps has stated that they are keeping the discharge rate as it is to protect some shellfish that need it in in Florida. That being where the water hit the ocean. Alabama also uses/needs this water. Thus the tri-state angle on the water resources war. As far as impact on boating - Some ramps are closed and there are hazzards to navigation that would not normally exist. But that is what happens when water gets lower them normal. If you are really interested: http://lanier.sam.usace.army.mil/Pre...ersCaution.pdf Capt Jack R.. I was looking earlier for a current aerial or low satellite photo of the lake, but then I was distracted by work. With all the dead marine life now on the edges of the lake, there must be an insect and rat problem. I don't pay attention to Atlanta weather patterns. Is there a winter rainy season? If not, then the city may be reduced to Homeland Security bringing in water trucks. Not from our Lakes.........the Great Lakes.....the largest amount of fresh water in the world and quite a resource for the Canadians and Americans living close enough to enjoy the Lakes. Let Lanier dry up. After all, it is nothing more than a recreational lake.........correct? First and foremost, I believe, it is a reservoir. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Jack Redington wrote: HK wrote: CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? While I no longer boat on Lanier, from the news many ramps are closed. At the present time that lake is about 12 below full pool. At least that was the last time I checked. Projections do not look good. Georgia has been in drought conditions all of this year. Spring rains were slight and every month has been a short. So it is not really news anymore. Lanier has several problems when rain is short. For one the drainage basin is small for a lake it's size. And about 6 million people in the Atlanta area depend on it. There is also the fact this this lake is under the Army Corps managment. At present they are letting out about twice the amount of water that is coming in. This has alot to do with the tri-state water war that has been going on since I have been here (about 10 years) The Corps has stated that they are keeping the discharge rate as it is to protect some shellfish that need it in in Florida. That being where the water hit the ocean. Alabama also uses/needs this water. Thus the tri-state angle on the water resources war. As far as impact on boating - Some ramps are closed and there are hazzards to navigation that would not normally exist. But that is what happens when water gets lower them normal. If you are really interested: http://lanier.sam.usace.army.mil/Pre...ersCaution.pdf Capt Jack R.. I was looking earlier for a current aerial or low satellite photo of the lake, but then I was distracted by work. With all the dead marine life now on the edges of the lake, there must be an insect and rat problem. I don't pay attention to Atlanta weather patterns. Is there a winter rainy season? If not, then the city may be reduced to Homeland Security bringing in water trucks. Not from our Lakes.........the Great Lakes.....the largest amount of fresh water in the world and quite a resource for the Canadians and Americans living close enough to enjoy the Lakes. Let Lanier dry up. After all, it is nothing more than a recreational lake.........correct? First and foremost, I believe, it is a reservoir. Bottled water. Well, I don't much like Atlanta, but I don't have contempt for it. I do like the Georgia coast. Now, Texas...that's another matter. What an awful place. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Jack Redington wrote: HK wrote: CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? While I no longer boat on Lanier, from the news many ramps are closed. At the present time that lake is about 12 below full pool. At least that was the last time I checked. Projections do not look good. Georgia has been in drought conditions all of this year. Spring rains were slight and every month has been a short. So it is not really news anymore. Lanier has several problems when rain is short. For one the drainage basin is small for a lake it's size. And about 6 million people in the Atlanta area depend on it. There is also the fact this this lake is under the Army Corps managment. At present they are letting out about twice the amount of water that is coming in. This has alot to do with the tri-state water war that has been going on since I have been here (about 10 years) The Corps has stated that they are keeping the discharge rate as it is to protect some shellfish that need it in in Florida. That being where the water hit the ocean. Alabama also uses/needs this water. Thus the tri-state angle on the water resources war. As far as impact on boating - Some ramps are closed and there are hazzards to navigation that would not normally exist. But that is what happens when water gets lower them normal. If you are really interested: http://lanier.sam.usace.army.mil/Pre...ersCaution.pdf Capt Jack R.. I was looking earlier for a current aerial or low satellite photo of the lake, but then I was distracted by work. With all the dead marine life now on the edges of the lake, there must be an insect and rat problem. I don't pay attention to Atlanta weather patterns. Is there a winter rainy season? If not, then the city may be reduced to Homeland Security bringing in water trucks. Not from our Lakes.........the Great Lakes.....the largest amount of fresh water in the world and quite a resource for the Canadians and Americans living close enough to enjoy the Lakes. Let Lanier dry up. After all, it is nothing more than a recreational lake.........correct? First and foremost, I believe, it is a reservoir. Bottled water. Well, I don't much like Atlanta, but I don't have contempt for it. I do like the Georgia coast. Now, Texas...that's another matter. What an awful place. I don't have any contempt for Atlanta either.............but the water is ours, not theirs. Believe me, this is becoming more and more of an issue.......with Canada in the mix also as they have an equal stake on the fresh water held in those Great Lakes. Did I miss something? Who the heck was talking about trucking in water from the Great Lakes to Atlanta? |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:41:31 -0400, HK wrote:
I don't pay attention to Atlanta weather patterns. Is there a winter rainy season? If not, then the city may be reduced to Homeland Security bringing in water trucks. About 10-15 years ago, I seem to remember Georgia having a severe drought. What surprised me then, was how localized it was. IIRC, the rest of the country was having a normal amount of rainfall. This doesn't seem to be the case this time. While not yet in drought conditions, we seem to be quite a bit short of normal precipitation here. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 15, 10:13 am, wrote: On Oct 15, 10:06 am, "Don White" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? Good thing Waylon doesn't boat much. Shouldn't affect him. Is Lanier a man made lake? Yes, it's dammed. It's big, though, 900 miles of shoreline, at least when it was full, it's down about 12' now. The good thing is it's deep. It is not deep if 12' decrease puts it in the condition it is in. Deep in California is like Oroville. Down 200' and still parts of the lake are 400' deep. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
"JimH" ask wrote in message ... I don't have any contempt for Atlanta either.............but the water is ours, not theirs. Believe me, this is becoming more and more of an issue.......with Canada in the mix also as they have an equal stake on the fresh water held in those Great Lakes. On occasion we'll see something in the news on that issue. I guess the nightmare scenario would be the US deciding on it's own to divert hugh amounts of fresh water from the Great Lakes to satisfy dry areas in the south and south-west. Look what happened to the Colorado River. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_River |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:14:20 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels |are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, |a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. | |Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead |shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. | |What's the impact on boating? Not just Lake Lanier! While some areas of the US are flooding, throughout the southeast there are boats high and dry and grass growing where there should be water. Looks pretty bad: http://drought.unl.edu/dm/monitor.html -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
Lake Lanier drying up?
HK wrote:
JimH wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Jack Redington wrote: HK wrote: CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? While I no longer boat on Lanier, from the news many ramps are closed. At the present time that lake is about 12 below full pool. At least that was the last time I checked. Projections do not look good. Georgia has been in drought conditions all of this year. Spring rains were slight and every month has been a short. So it is not really news anymore. Lanier has several problems when rain is short. For one the drainage basin is small for a lake it's size. And about 6 million people in the Atlanta area depend on it. There is also the fact this this lake is under the Army Corps managment. At present they are letting out about twice the amount of water that is coming in. This has alot to do with the tri-state water war that has been going on since I have been here (about 10 years) The Corps has stated that they are keeping the discharge rate as it is to protect some shellfish that need it in in Florida. That being where the water hit the ocean. Alabama also uses/needs this water. Thus the tri-state angle on the water resources war. As far as impact on boating - Some ramps are closed and there are hazzards to navigation that would not normally exist. But that is what happens when water gets lower them normal. If you are really interested: http://lanier.sam.usace.army.mil/Pre...ersCaution.pdf Capt Jack R.. I was looking earlier for a current aerial or low satellite photo of the lake, but then I was distracted by work. With all the dead marine life now on the edges of the lake, there must be an insect and rat problem. I don't pay attention to Atlanta weather patterns. Is there a winter rainy season? If not, then the city may be reduced to Homeland Security bringing in water trucks. Not from our Lakes.........the Great Lakes.....the largest amount of fresh water in the world and quite a resource for the Canadians and Americans living close enough to enjoy the Lakes. Let Lanier dry up. After all, it is nothing more than a recreational lake.........correct? First and foremost, I believe, it is a reservoir. No. Flood Control. Rob |
Lake Lanier drying up?
HK wrote in news:Jo2dncafEaYy-
: CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? Everybody's lake in the South is in the same condition: http://river-depth.com/hsas/ CAE is Columbia, SC area CHS is Charleston, but most of our rivers keep going up and down every 6 hours or so...about 6 feet this time of year! (c. Larry -- You can tell there's extremely intelligent life in the universe because they have never called Earth. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "John H." wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:54:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:54:02 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: On Oct 15, 7:44?am, wrote: So then you must agree it is OK to alter the course of nature in order to serve the growing human population?- Hide quoted text - Careful, that statement is getting pretty close to recognizing the possibility that a growing human population *could* "alter the course of nature". Then slowing down the rate of growth may be a cost effective way of dealing with the problem, as opposed to making Al Gore more wealthy? It would be impossible for it NOT to help, but it's a touchy subject. Zero population growth? Watch the reactions to that in subsequent messages. The emphasis was on cost effective means of dealing with a problem, as opposed to sending money to Al Gore. 'Zero population gowth' is your term, not mine. I'm not trying to engender any reaction to that in any messages. But, it looks like you are. It's a theory, and the name of an organization which, for many years, has tried to push an agenda of not having more than 2 kids, so a couple only replaces itself without adding population. Naturally, there are people who think its inevitable that suggestions will become laws, and such people refuse to think about controlling population growth. That is amazing, our so called "leaders" can't acknowledge more people is more influence in the environment. Anyone take a look at Africa's birth rate, scary indeed. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
Last time we went out about 3 weeks ago we went down to the dam area and it
was ok there. Falls is not down as much as the rest but it's down enough that some ramps are closed and you really need to pay attention. This happens occasionally around here. We have seen the lakes get low two other years since we've lived here. Hasn't stopped us from boating though. We're into water sports so it's usually cooling off by the time the lakes are really low and that's about when we stop boating anyway. The droughts are usually because of a dry summer so on the plus side there is less rain to keep us from boating because of the weather. "John H." wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:03:43 -0700, jamesgangnc wrote: On Oct 15, 11:07 am, wrote: On Oct 15, 10:57 am, wrote: The trouble with your type, is that you don't think that anything that man can do will have an adverse affect on the environment What a dumb statement. You don't know "my type". Here's a clue. I grew up in the woods and fields and have a 'leave nothing but footprints" attitude toward my outdoor play. But you just keep up the close minded stand and you will surely be dismissed by rational people. When was the last time you took a walk on the beach with your wife and carried a garbage bag... we carry one as part of our "go bag".... Do you? Many of the lakes in the southeast are man made and are used for water supply. There are not that many natural lakes occuring in the southeast. Most also are used for recreational purposes. All the lakes I've boated in in NC are man made. Around Raleigh Lake Jordan and Falls Lake are both man made. As well as Hyco, Mayo, and Wheeler plus others. On the Roanoke, Philpot, Kerr, and Gaston are all man made. There has been drought conditions in the southeast above florida most of the summer and lots of the lakes are down many feet. My neighbor, who moved up here (DC area) from Raleigh says that Falls Lake is getting too shallow for boating. Of course, I just bought a new boat and am planning (tentatively) to move to the Wake Forest area and use Falls Lake. How are the boating conditions down there now? |
Lake Lanier drying up?
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Lake Lanier drying up?
HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Oct 15, 10:06 am, "Don White" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? Good thing Waylon doesn't boat much. Shouldn't affect him. Is Lanier a man made lake? Looks like it is the result of a riverbed widened into a lake, but I don't know. Not a place where I'd care to boat. It's a reservoir, which means it also serves as the area's freshwater supply. Nothing quite like letting people boat, crap and dump garbage in your drinking water. Kinda like the Great Lakes. Drank Chicago water for over 50 years and never had a problem. You mean, other than the extra nose growing out of your arm? We have a nice, deep, drilled well for our drinking water. I have it tested once a year. Crystal clear, clean and free of contaminants. Your aquifer is the Chesapeake Bay and the Patuxet River. Sewage dumping grounds for humans and fish. In fact I think I'll go take a leak in the Patuxet, it is only about a mile from my home. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
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Lake Lanier drying up?
"BAR" wrote in message . .. HK wrote: wrote: On Oct 15, 10:06 am, "Don White" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? Good thing Waylon doesn't boat much. Shouldn't affect him. Is Lanier a man made lake? Looks like it is the result of a riverbed widened into a lake, but I don't know. Not a place where I'd care to boat. It's a reservoir, which means it also serves as the area's freshwater supply. Nothing quite like letting people boat, crap and dump garbage in your drinking water. What's the difference between fish crap and people crap? Size? |
Lake Lanier drying up?
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 15, 7:44?am, wrote: So then you must agree it is OK to alter the course of nature in order to serve the growing human population?- Hide quoted text - Careful, that statement is getting pretty close to recognizing the possibility that a growing human population *could* "alter the course of nature". Why is that a bad thing? Isn't just the evolution of humans? We didn't come out of the caves to build cities and then have to return to the caves. Progress Chuck, its progressive. |
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Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 15, 7:01 pm, "JimH" ask wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. Jack Redington wrote: HK wrote: CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? While I no longer boat on Lanier, from the news many ramps are closed. At the present time that lake is about 12 below full pool. At least that was the last time I checked. Projections do not look good. Georgia has been in drought conditions all of this year. Spring rains were slight and every month has been a short. So it is not really news anymore. Lanier has several problems when rain is short. For one the drainage basin is small for a lake it's size. And about 6 million people in the Atlanta area depend on it. There is also the fact this this lake is under the Army Corps managment. At present they are letting out about twice the amount of water that is coming in. This has alot to do with the tri-state water war that has been going on since I have been here (about 10 years) The Corps has stated that they are keeping the discharge rate as it is to protect some shellfish that need it in in Florida. That being where the water hit the ocean. Alabama also uses/needs this water. Thus the tri-state angle on the water resources war. As far as impact on boating - Some ramps are closed and there are hazzards to navigation that would not normally exist. But that is what happens when water gets lower them normal. If you are really interested: http://lanier.sam.usace.army.mil/Pre...07_BoatersCaut... Capt Jack R.. I was looking earlier for a current aerial or low satellite photo of the lake, but then I was distracted by work. With all the dead marine life now on the edges of the lake, there must be an insect and rat problem. I don't pay attention to Atlanta weather patterns. Is there a winter rainy season? If not, then the city may be reduced to Homeland Security bringing in water trucks. Not from our Lakes.........the Great Lakes.....the largest amount of fresh water in the world and quite a resource for the Canadians and Americans living close enough to enjoy the Lakes. Let Lanier dry up. After all, it is nothing more than a recreational lake.........correct?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Could you please do a little research before you make such ignorant statements? Here, I'll get you started: http://lanier.sam.usace.army.mil/ http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...mber_1016.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Lanier |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 15, 6:41 pm, HK wrote:
Jack Redington wrote: HK wrote: CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? While I no longer boat on Lanier, from the news many ramps are closed. At the present time that lake is about 12 below full pool. At least that was the last time I checked. Projections do not look good. Georgia has been in drought conditions all of this year. Spring rains were slight and every month has been a short. So it is not really news anymore. Lanier has several problems when rain is short. For one the drainage basin is small for a lake it's size. And about 6 million people in the Atlanta area depend on it. There is also the fact this this lake is under the Army Corps managment. At present they are letting out about twice the amount of water that is coming in. This has alot to do with the tri-state water war that has been going on since I have been here (about 10 years) The Corps has stated that they are keeping the discharge rate as it is to protect some shellfish that need it in in Florida. That being where the water hit the ocean. Alabama also uses/needs this water. Thus the tri-state angle on the water resources war. As far as impact on boating - Some ramps are closed and there are hazzards to navigation that would not normally exist. But that is what happens when water gets lower them normal. If you are really interested: http://lanier.sam.usace.army.mil/Pre...07_BoatersCaut... Capt Jack R.. I was looking earlier for a current aerial or low satellite photo of the lake, but then I was distracted by work. With all the dead marine life now on the edges of the lake, there must be an insect and rat problem. I don't pay attention to Atlanta weather patterns. Is there a winter rainy season? If not, then the city may be reduced to Homeland Security bringing in water trucks.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry, there is a winter rainy season, but being a La Nina year, they are predicting below average precip, plus the lake is SO low that it would take exceptional rainfall to make up the defecit. Add to that the Governor is trying to get the army corp to quit releasing so much water to support some fresh water mussel in FL and a small coal fired power plant. The total release is 600 to 900 million gallons per day. The sad part is that the downstream reservoirs are used Alabama, and they have no rationing! |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 15, 7:34 pm, "JimH" ask wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Jack Redington wrote: HK wrote: CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? While I no longer boat on Lanier, from the news many ramps are closed. At the present time that lake is about 12 below full pool. At least that was the last time I checked. Projections do not look good. Georgia has been in drought conditions all of this year. Spring rains were slight and every month has been a short. So it is not really news anymore. Lanier has several problems when rain is short. For one the drainage basin is small for a lake it's size. And about 6 million people in the Atlanta area depend on it. There is also the fact this this lake is under the Army Corps managment. At present they are letting out about twice the amount of water that is coming in. This has alot to do with the tri-state water war that has been going on since I have been here (about 10 years) The Corps has stated that they are keeping the discharge rate as it is to protect some shellfish that need it in in Florida. That being where the water hit the ocean. Alabama also uses/needs this water. Thus the tri-state angle on the water resources war. As far as impact on boating - Some ramps are closed and there are hazzards to navigation that would not normally exist. But that is what happens when water gets lower them normal. If you are really interested: http://lanier.sam.usace.army.mil/Pre...07_BoatersCaut... Capt Jack R.. I was looking earlier for a current aerial or low satellite photo of the lake, but then I was distracted by work. With all the dead marine life now on the edges of the lake, there must be an insect and rat problem. I don't pay attention to Atlanta weather patterns. Is there a winter rainy season? If not, then the city may be reduced to Homeland Security bringing in water trucks. Not from our Lakes.........the Great Lakes.....the largest amount of fresh water in the world and quite a resource for the Canadians and Americans living close enough to enjoy the Lakes. Let Lanier dry up. After all, it is nothing more than a recreational lake.........correct? First and foremost, I believe, it is a reservoir. Bottled water.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Apparently unlike you, we like to bathe too. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 15, 7:53 pm, "JimH" ask wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... JimH wrote: "HK" wrote in message news:DLqdnUOpmOY9cY7anZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d@comcast. com... Jack Redington wrote: HK wrote: CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? While I no longer boat on Lanier, from the news many ramps are closed. At the present time that lake is about 12 below full pool. At least that was the last time I checked. Projections do not look good. Georgia has been in drought conditions all of this year. Spring rains were slight and every month has been a short. So it is not really news anymore. Lanier has several problems when rain is short. For one the drainage basin is small for a lake it's size. And about 6 million people in the Atlanta area depend on it. There is also the fact this this lake is under the Army Corps managment. At present they are letting out about twice the amount of water that is coming in. This has alot to do with the tri-state water war that has been going on since I have been here (about 10 years) The Corps has stated that they are keeping the discharge rate as it is to protect some shellfish that need it in in Florida. That being where the water hit the ocean. Alabama also uses/needs this water. Thus the tri-state angle on the water resources war. As far as impact on boating - Some ramps are closed and there are hazzards to navigation that would not normally exist. But that is what happens when water gets lower them normal. If you are really interested: http://lanier.sam.usace.army.mil/Pre...07_BoatersCaut... Capt Jack R.. I was looking earlier for a current aerial or low satellite photo of the lake, but then I was distracted by work. With all the dead marine life now on the edges of the lake, there must be an insect and rat problem. I don't pay attention to Atlanta weather patterns. Is there a winter rainy season? If not, then the city may be reduced to Homeland Security bringing in water trucks. Not from our Lakes.........the Great Lakes.....the largest amount of fresh water in the world and quite a resource for the Canadians and Americans living close enough to enjoy the Lakes. Let Lanier dry up. After all, it is nothing more than a recreational lake.........correct? First and foremost, I believe, it is a reservoir. Bottled water. Well, I don't much like Atlanta, but I don't have contempt for it. I do like the Georgia coast. Now, Texas...that's another matter. What an awful place. I don't have any contempt for Atlanta either.............but the water is ours, not theirs. Believe me, this is becoming more and more of an issue.......with Canada in the mix also as they have an equal stake on the fresh water held in those Great Lakes.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Holy cripe! Are you really saying that because you live in proximity of a body of water, that only those in that proximity is entitlted to use it?? What IS that proximity for use, anyway? You do realize that the water to fill those lakes comes from a long, long ways away via watershed, don't you? Further, you may or may not realize that the water comes primarily from rain. Who does this rain belong to? |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 15, 8:34 pm, "CalifBill" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 15, 10:13 am, wrote: On Oct 15, 10:06 am, "Don White" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? Good thing Waylon doesn't boat much. Shouldn't affect him. Is Lanier a man made lake? Yes, it's dammed. It's big, though, 900 miles of shoreline, at least when it was full, it's down about 12' now. The good thing is it's deep. It is not deep if 12' decrease puts it in the condition it is in. Deep in California is like Oroville. Down 200' and still parts of the lake are 400' deep.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Deep is a relative term, dip****. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 15, 9:25 pm, trainfan1 wrote:
HK wrote: JimH wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Jack Redington wrote: HK wrote: CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? While I no longer boat on Lanier, from the news many ramps are closed. At the present time that lake is about 12 below full pool. At least that was the last time I checked. Projections do not look good. Georgia has been in drought conditions all of this year. Spring rains were slight and every month has been a short. So it is not really news anymore. Lanier has several problems when rain is short. For one the drainage basin is small for a lake it's size. And about 6 million people in the Atlanta area depend on it. There is also the fact this this lake is under the Army Corps managment. At present they are letting out about twice the amount of water that is coming in. This has alot to do with the tri-state water war that has been going on since I have been here (about 10 years) The Corps has stated that they are keeping the discharge rate as it is to protect some shellfish that need it in in Florida. That being where the water hit the ocean. Alabama also uses/needs this water. Thus the tri-state angle on the water resources war. As far as impact on boating - Some ramps are closed and there are hazzards to navigation that would not normally exist. But that is what happens when water gets lower them normal. If you are really interested: http://lanier.sam.usace.army.mil/Pre...07_BoatersCaut... Capt Jack R.. I was looking earlier for a current aerial or low satellite photo of the lake, but then I was distracted by work. With all the dead marine life now on the edges of the lake, there must be an insect and rat problem. I don't pay attention to Atlanta weather patterns. Is there a winter rainy season? If not, then the city may be reduced to Homeland Security bringing in water trucks. Not from our Lakes.........the Great Lakes.....the largest amount of fresh water in the world and quite a resource for the Canadians and Americans living close enough to enjoy the Lakes. Let Lanier dry up. After all, it is nothing more than a recreational lake.........correct? First and foremost, I believe, it is a reservoir. No. Flood Control. Rob- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - From Lake Lanier Army Corp of Engineers website: Constructed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers in the 1950's, Lake Lanier is a multi-purpose lake that provides for flood protection, power production, water supply, navigation, recreation and fish and wildlife management. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
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On Oct 15, 6:41 pm, HK wrote: Jack Redington wrote: HK wrote: CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? While I no longer boat on Lanier, from the news many ramps are closed. At the present time that lake is about 12 below full pool. At least that was the last time I checked. Projections do not look good. Georgia has been in drought conditions all of this year. Spring rains were slight and every month has been a short. So it is not really news anymore. Lanier has several problems when rain is short. For one the drainage basin is small for a lake it's size. And about 6 million people in the Atlanta area depend on it. There is also the fact this this lake is under the Army Corps managment. At present they are letting out about twice the amount of water that is coming in. This has alot to do with the tri-state water war that has been going on since I have been here (about 10 years) The Corps has stated that they are keeping the discharge rate as it is to protect some shellfish that need it in in Florida. That being where the water hit the ocean. Alabama also uses/needs this water. Thus the tri-state angle on the water resources war. As far as impact on boating - Some ramps are closed and there are hazzards to navigation that would not normally exist. But that is what happens when water gets lower them normal. If you are really interested: http://lanier.sam.usace.army.mil/Pre...07_BoatersCaut... Capt Jack R.. I was looking earlier for a current aerial or low satellite photo of the lake, but then I was distracted by work. With all the dead marine life now on the edges of the lake, there must be an insect and rat problem. I don't pay attention to Atlanta weather patterns. Is there a winter rainy season? If not, then the city may be reduced to Homeland Security bringing in water trucks.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry, there is a winter rainy season, but being a La Nina year, they are predicting below average precip, plus the lake is SO low that it would take exceptional rainfall to make up the defecit. Add to that the Governor is trying to get the army corp to quit releasing so much water to support some fresh water mussel in FL and a small coal fired power plant. The total release is 600 to 900 million gallons per day. The sad part is that the downstream reservoirs are used Alabama, and they have no rationing! Thanks. Hope you guys have water to drink this winter. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 16, 5:52?am, BAR wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote: On Oct 15, 7:44?am, wrote: So then you must agree it is OK to alter the course of nature in order to serve the growing human population?- Hide quoted text - Careful, that statement is getting pretty close to recognizing the possibility that a growing human population *could* "alter the course of nature". Why is that a bad thing? Isn't just the evolution of humans? We didn't come out of the caves to build cities and then have to return to the caves. Progress Chuck, its progressive. You missed the point, probably my fault. I see a disconnect between the concepts that "Man couldn't possibly alter the global environment enough to contribute to global warming" and "Man has the right to alter the environment as much as he wants in order to serve a growing population of human beings." |
Lake Lanier drying up?
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@e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com: Could you please do a little research before you make such ignorant statements? http://www.drought.unl.edu/dm/monitor.html Found this handy webpage to assess drought conditions across the USA. I can see why the lakes in the South are drying up! Larry -- You can tell there's extremely intelligent life in the universe because they have never called Earth. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 16, 11:25 am, HK wrote:
wrote: On Oct 15, 6:41 pm, HK wrote: Jack Redington wrote: HK wrote: CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? While I no longer boat on Lanier, from the news many ramps are closed. At the present time that lake is about 12 below full pool. At least that was the last time I checked. Projections do not look good. Georgia has been in drought conditions all of this year. Spring rains were slight and every month has been a short. So it is not really news anymore. Lanier has several problems when rain is short. For one the drainage basin is small for a lake it's size. And about 6 million people in the Atlanta area depend on it. There is also the fact this this lake is under the Army Corps managment. At present they are letting out about twice the amount of water that is coming in. This has alot to do with the tri-state water war that has been going on since I have been here (about 10 years) The Corps has stated that they are keeping the discharge rate as it is to protect some shellfish that need it in in Florida. That being where the water hit the ocean. Alabama also uses/needs this water. Thus the tri-state angle on the water resources war. As far as impact on boating - Some ramps are closed and there are hazzards to navigation that would not normally exist. But that is what happens when water gets lower them normal. If you are really interested: http://lanier.sam.usace.army.mil/Pre...07_BoatersCaut... Capt Jack R.. I was looking earlier for a current aerial or low satellite photo of the lake, but then I was distracted by work. With all the dead marine life now on the edges of the lake, there must be an insect and rat problem. I don't pay attention to Atlanta weather patterns. Is there a winter rainy season? If not, then the city may be reduced to Homeland Security bringing in water trucks.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry, there is a winter rainy season, but being a La Nina year, they are predicting below average precip, plus the lake is SO low that it would take exceptional rainfall to make up the defecit. Add to that the Governor is trying to get the army corp to quit releasing so much water to support some fresh water mussel in FL and a small coal fired power plant. The total release is 600 to 900 million gallons per day. The sad part is that the downstream reservoirs are used Alabama, and they have no rationing! Thanks. Hope you guys have water to drink this winter.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So do I! You have to go pretty deep with a well here to get *good* drinking water. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Oct 16, 12:20 pm, Larry wrote:
wrote in news:1192545752.481641.277740 @e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com: Could you please do a little research before you make such ignorant statements? http://www.drought.unl.edu/dm/monitor.html Found this handy webpage to assess drought conditions across the USA. I can see why the lakes in the South are drying up! Larry -- You can tell there's extremely intelligent life in the universe because they have never called Earth. It seems that just about every summer, just before fall, they start worrying about water, and *usually* the fall/winter rains come and negates those issues. But the last couple of years were different, not much rain in winter, either. We'll see, I guess. I remember being in the S.F. bay area and while I missed the rationing, there was a big effort to get people to minimize water usage. They're trying here, but outside of the criminal aspects of it, not very many people are doing much to go above and beyond. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
wrote in message ps.com... On Oct 15, 8:34 pm, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 15, 10:13 am, wrote: On Oct 15, 10:06 am, "Don White" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon, a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought. Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded. What's the impact on boating? Good thing Waylon doesn't boat much. Shouldn't affect him. Is Lanier a man made lake? Yes, it's dammed. It's big, though, 900 miles of shoreline, at least when it was full, it's down about 12' now. The good thing is it's deep. It is not deep if 12' decrease puts it in the condition it is in. Deep in California is like Oroville. Down 200' and still parts of the lake are 400' deep.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Deep is a relative term, dip****. Relative to you deep****. |
Lake Lanier drying up?
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 08:13:57 -0400, "jamesgangnc" wrote:
Last time we went out about 3 weeks ago we went down to the dam area and it was ok there. Falls is not down as much as the rest but it's down enough that some ramps are closed and you really need to pay attention. This happens occasionally around here. We have seen the lakes get low two other years since we've lived here. Hasn't stopped us from boating though. We're into water sports so it's usually cooling off by the time the lakes are really low and that's about when we stop boating anyway. The droughts are usually because of a dry summer so on the plus side there is less rain to keep us from boating because of the weather. "John H." wrote in message .. . On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:03:43 -0700, jamesgangnc wrote: On Oct 15, 11:07 am, wrote: On Oct 15, 10:57 am, wrote: The trouble with your type, is that you don't think that anything that man can do will have an adverse affect on the environment What a dumb statement. You don't know "my type". Here's a clue. I grew up in the woods and fields and have a 'leave nothing but footprints" attitude toward my outdoor play. But you just keep up the close minded stand and you will surely be dismissed by rational people. When was the last time you took a walk on the beach with your wife and carried a garbage bag... we carry one as part of our "go bag".... Do you? Many of the lakes in the southeast are man made and are used for water supply. There are not that many natural lakes occuring in the southeast. Most also are used for recreational purposes. All the lakes I've boated in in NC are man made. Around Raleigh Lake Jordan and Falls Lake are both man made. As well as Hyco, Mayo, and Wheeler plus others. On the Roanoke, Philpot, Kerr, and Gaston are all man made. There has been drought conditions in the southeast above florida most of the summer and lots of the lakes are down many feet. My neighbor, who moved up here (DC area) from Raleigh says that Falls Lake is getting too shallow for boating. Of course, I just bought a new boat and am planning (tentatively) to move to the Wake Forest area and use Falls Lake. How are the boating conditions down there now? Thanks! |
Lake Lanier drying up?
wrote: From Lake Lanier Army Corp of Engineers website: Constructed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers in the 1950's, Lake Lanier is a multi-purpose lake that provides for flood protection, power production, water supply, navigation, recreation and fish and wildlife management. Same way with Lake Carlyle . that is with exception of power production. It is fed by the Kaskaskia river, and it's level has dropped considerably. it is a huge man made lake and is about 4 mi wide and 10 mi long. But in many places the shore line is rather shallow. in some cases un aprochable with a typical runabout up to 150 ft from shore. But when the lake is full, these spots are usually navagational within 50-75 ft. Still plenty deep in the middle, but unhandy for reaching beach lines. |
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