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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
I guess JimH really doesn't want to know, so I will tell you. The problem with most single screw boats is the prop walk. So instead of keeping the boat in gear, you just "bump" the boat in and out of gear (keeping it in gear for less than a second), you want to keep enough movement to offset the wind or current. As long as you have movement the outdrive acts as a rudder, and since you don't have continual prop torque/walk, it is a piece of cake to back a single screw boat. If you have a boat with a lot of surface area, it can be effected by the wind, and you have to compensate for that with your initial approach, but with a tiny runabout it becomes 2nd nature to spin the boat around and back it up. What a secret! Why, it is *amazing* no one ever thought of this before. I mean, this gem of an original idea has never been seen in any boating magazines, books or websites. Wow! Frippin' amazing. Next thing you know, Reggie will climb aboard a boat that isn't indoors at the Atlanta boat show. |
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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: I guess JimH really doesn't want to know, so I will tell you. The problem with most single screw boats is the prop walk. So instead of keeping the boat in gear, you just "bump" the boat in and out of gear (keeping it in gear for less than a second), you want to keep enough movement to offset the wind or current. As long as you have movement the outdrive acts as a rudder, and since you don't have continual prop torque/walk, it is a piece of cake to back a single screw boat. If you have a boat with a lot of surface area, it can be effected by the wind, and you have to compensate for that with your initial approach, but with a tiny runabout it becomes 2nd nature to spin the boat around and back it up. What a secret! Why, it is *amazing* no one ever thought of this before. I mean, this gem of an original idea has never been seen in any boating magazines, books or websites. Wow! Frippin' amazing. Next thing you know, Reggie will climb aboard a boat that isn't indoors at the Atlanta boat show. Harry, Maybe you didn't see my quotes around "secret". As I said, the marina showed it to all new boaters and I see it used by people up and down my dock, so it was a very well known "secret", but there are some (obvioulsly JimH if could not back his boat into the slip) who don't know it. When I see someone having trouble docking their boat, I always suggest they try it, and it always seems to solve the problem for them. I think you might be so upset because you didn't know about it either. That is ok, even a boatless fool like me can teach you some stuff, so just keep reading all of my posts. Harry there are some people who have to pretend about their boating, and they make up imaginary boats and imaginary boating trips. I don't. |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: I guess JimH really doesn't want to know, so I will tell you. The problem with most single screw boats is the prop walk. So instead of keeping the boat in gear, you just "bump" the boat in and out of gear (keeping it in gear for less than a second), you want to keep enough movement to offset the wind or current. As long as you have movement the outdrive acts as a rudder, and since you don't have continual prop torque/walk, it is a piece of cake to back a single screw boat. If you have a boat with a lot of surface area, it can be effected by the wind, and you have to compensate for that with your initial approach, but with a tiny runabout it becomes 2nd nature to spin the boat around and back it up. What a secret! Why, it is *amazing* no one ever thought of this before. I mean, this gem of an original idea has never been seen in any boating magazines, books or websites. Wow! Frippin' amazing. Next thing you know, Reggie will climb aboard a boat that isn't indoors at the Atlanta boat show. Harry, Maybe you didn't see my quotes around "secret". As I said, the marina showed it to all new boaters and I see it used by people up and down my dock, so it was a very well known "secret", but there are some (obvioulsly JimH if could not back his boat into the slip) who don't know it. When I see someone having trouble docking their boat, I always suggest they try it, and it always seems to solve the problem for them. I think you might be so upset because you didn't know about it either. That is ok, even a boatless fool like me can teach you some stuff, so just keep reading all of my posts. Harry there are some people who have to pretend about their boating, and they make up imaginary boats and imaginary boating trips. I don't. There isn't the slightest reason to believe you've ever been aboard a boat, let alone that you own one. |
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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: I guess JimH really doesn't want to know, so I will tell you. The problem with most single screw boats is the prop walk. So instead of keeping the boat in gear, you just "bump" the boat in and out of gear (keeping it in gear for less than a second), you want to keep enough movement to offset the wind or current. As long as you have movement the outdrive acts as a rudder, and since you don't have continual prop torque/walk, it is a piece of cake to back a single screw boat. If you have a boat with a lot of surface area, it can be effected by the wind, and you have to compensate for that with your initial approach, but with a tiny runabout it becomes 2nd nature to spin the boat around and back it up. What a secret! Why, it is *amazing* no one ever thought of this before. I mean, this gem of an original idea has never been seen in any boating magazines, books or websites. Wow! Frippin' amazing. Next thing you know, Reggie will climb aboard a boat that isn't indoors at the Atlanta boat show. Harry, Maybe you didn't see my quotes around "secret". As I said, the marina showed it to all new boaters and I see it used by people up and down my dock, so it was a very well known "secret", but there are some (obvioulsly JimH if could not back his boat into the slip) who don't know it. When I see someone having trouble docking their boat, I always suggest they try it, and it always seems to solve the problem for them. I think you might be so upset because you didn't know about it either. That is ok, even a boatless fool like me can teach you some stuff, so just keep reading all of my posts. Harry there are some people who have to pretend about their boating, and they make up imaginary boats and imaginary boating trips. I don't. There isn't the slightest reason to believe you've ever been aboard a boat, let alone that you own one. Ok, want to make some easy money? I am willing to bet you $10,000 that I do own a boat, and another $10,000 that you don't own a lobster boat. The money can go to you or your favorite charity, which ever one you want. I am sure you know a worthwhile charity that could use $20,000. I know I do. |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: I guess JimH really doesn't want to know, so I will tell you. The problem with most single screw boats is the prop walk. So instead of keeping the boat in gear, you just "bump" the boat in and out of gear (keeping it in gear for less than a second), you want to keep enough movement to offset the wind or current. As long as you have movement the outdrive acts as a rudder, and since you don't have continual prop torque/walk, it is a piece of cake to back a single screw boat. If you have a boat with a lot of surface area, it can be effected by the wind, and you have to compensate for that with your initial approach, but with a tiny runabout it becomes 2nd nature to spin the boat around and back it up. What a secret! Why, it is *amazing* no one ever thought of this before. I mean, this gem of an original idea has never been seen in any boating magazines, books or websites. Wow! Frippin' amazing. Next thing you know, Reggie will climb aboard a boat that isn't indoors at the Atlanta boat show. Harry, Maybe you didn't see my quotes around "secret". As I said, the marina showed it to all new boaters and I see it used by people up and down my dock, so it was a very well known "secret", but there are some (obvioulsly JimH if could not back his boat into the slip) who don't know it. When I see someone having trouble docking their boat, I always suggest they try it, and it always seems to solve the problem for them. I think you might be so upset because you didn't know about it either. That is ok, even a boatless fool like me can teach you some stuff, so just keep reading all of my posts. Harry there are some people who have to pretend about their boating, and they make up imaginary boats and imaginary boating trips. I don't. There isn't the slightest reason to believe you've ever been aboard a boat, let alone that you own one. Ok, want to make some easy money? I am willing to bet you $10,000 that I do own a boat, and another $10,000 that you don't own a lobster boat. The money can go to you or your favorite charity, which ever one you want. I am sure you know a worthwhile charity that could use $20,000. I know I do. There isn't the slightest reason to believe you've ever been aboard a boat, let alone that you own one. |
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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: I guess JimH really doesn't want to know, so I will tell you. The problem with most single screw boats is the prop walk. So instead of keeping the boat in gear, you just "bump" the boat in and out of gear (keeping it in gear for less than a second), you want to keep enough movement to offset the wind or current. As long as you have movement the outdrive acts as a rudder, and since you don't have continual prop torque/walk, it is a piece of cake to back a single screw boat. If you have a boat with a lot of surface area, it can be effected by the wind, and you have to compensate for that with your initial approach, but with a tiny runabout it becomes 2nd nature to spin the boat around and back it up. What a secret! Why, it is *amazing* no one ever thought of this before. I mean, this gem of an original idea has never been seen in any boating magazines, books or websites. Wow! Frippin' amazing. Next thing you know, Reggie will climb aboard a boat that isn't indoors at the Atlanta boat show. Harry, Maybe you didn't see my quotes around "secret". As I said, the marina showed it to all new boaters and I see it used by people up and down my dock, so it was a very well known "secret", but there are some (obvioulsly JimH if could not back his boat into the slip) who don't know it. When I see someone having trouble docking their boat, I always suggest they try it, and it always seems to solve the problem for them. I think you might be so upset because you didn't know about it either. That is ok, even a boatless fool like me can teach you some stuff, so just keep reading all of my posts. Harry there are some people who have to pretend about their boating, and they make up imaginary boats and imaginary boating trips. I don't. There isn't the slightest reason to believe you've ever been aboard a boat, let alone that you own one. Ok, want to make some easy money? I am willing to bet you $10,000 that I do own a boat, and another $10,000 that you don't own a lobster boat. The money can go to you or your favorite charity, which ever one you want. I am sure you know a worthwhile charity that could use $20,000. I know I do. There isn't the slightest reason to believe you've ever been aboard a boat, let alone that you own one. well then want to make some easy money? Between me being boatless and you owning a Lobster Boat either you or your charity should be very happy. |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: I guess JimH really doesn't want to know, so I will tell you. The problem with most single screw boats is the prop walk. So instead of keeping the boat in gear, you just "bump" the boat in and out of gear (keeping it in gear for less than a second), you want to keep enough movement to offset the wind or current. As long as you have movement the outdrive acts as a rudder, and since you don't have continual prop torque/walk, it is a piece of cake to back a single screw boat. If you have a boat with a lot of surface area, it can be effected by the wind, and you have to compensate for that with your initial approach, but with a tiny runabout it becomes 2nd nature to spin the boat around and back it up. What a secret! Why, it is *amazing* no one ever thought of this before. I mean, this gem of an original idea has never been seen in any boating magazines, books or websites. Wow! Frippin' amazing. Next thing you know, Reggie will climb aboard a boat that isn't indoors at the Atlanta boat show. Harry, Maybe you didn't see my quotes around "secret". As I said, the marina showed it to all new boaters and I see it used by people up and down my dock, so it was a very well known "secret", but there are some (obvioulsly JimH if could not back his boat into the slip) who don't know it. When I see someone having trouble docking their boat, I always suggest they try it, and it always seems to solve the problem for them. I think you might be so upset because you didn't know about it either. That is ok, even a boatless fool like me can teach you some stuff, so just keep reading all of my posts. Harry there are some people who have to pretend about their boating, and they make up imaginary boats and imaginary boating trips. I don't. There isn't the slightest reason to believe you've ever been aboard a boat, let alone that you own one. Ok, want to make some easy money? I am willing to bet you $10,000 that I do own a boat, and another $10,000 that you don't own a lobster boat. The money can go to you or your favorite charity, which ever one you want. I am sure you know a worthwhile charity that could use $20,000. I know I do. There isn't the slightest reason to believe you've ever been aboard a boat, let alone that you own one. well then want to make some easy money? Between me being boatless and you owning a Lobster Boat either you or your charity should be very happy. I only gamble with gentlemen, Reggie, not with a**holes. You have proven over and again that you are an a**hole. There isn't the slightest reason to believe you've ever been aboard a boat, let alone that you own one. |
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![]() "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message ... Harry, Maybe you didn't see my quotes around "secret". As I said, the marina showed it to all new boaters and I see it used by people up and down my dock, so it was a very well known "secret", but there are some (obvioulsly JimH if could not back his boat into the slip) who don't know it. When I see someone having trouble docking their boat, I always suggest they try it, and it always seems to solve the problem for them. I think you might be so upset because you didn't know about it either. That is ok, even a boatless fool like me can teach you some stuff, so just keep reading all of my posts. The marina is smart to encourage "bumping" from neutral to reverse and back while docking. The boat moves slowly and causes little or no damage when it hits something. It's a good technique, but not for the reasons you gave (outdrive acts like a rudder). Not at a slow speed and particularly going backwards. The short bumps of vectored thrust is what is moving the stern on an I/O or outboard. Sometimes, slowly backing into a slip using the "bumping" method isn't a good idea. When we had the Egg Harbor, we would often go out fishing on windy, stormy days that normally I would pass on. Backing into the slip in 35 kt crosswinds is not something you do slowly and casually. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message ... Harry, Maybe you didn't see my quotes around "secret". As I said, the marina showed it to all new boaters and I see it used by people up and down my dock, so it was a very well known "secret", but there are some (obvioulsly JimH if could not back his boat into the slip) who don't know it. When I see someone having trouble docking their boat, I always suggest they try it, and it always seems to solve the problem for them. I think you might be so upset because you didn't know about it either. That is ok, even a boatless fool like me can teach you some stuff, so just keep reading all of my posts. The marina is smart to encourage "bumping" from neutral to reverse and back while docking. The boat moves slowly and causes little or no damage when it hits something. It's a good technique, but not for the reasons you gave (outdrive acts like a rudder). Not at a slow speed and particularly going backwards. The short bumps of vectored thrust is what is moving the stern on an I/O or outboard. Sometimes, slowly backing into a slip using the "bumping" method isn't a good idea. When we had the Egg Harbor, we would often go out fishing on windy, stormy days that normally I would pass on. Backing into the slip in 35 kt crosswinds is not something you do slowly and casually. Eisboch When I kept my 25' Parker up at the Deale boatel, I had to back down a narrow corridor of boats on each side, maybe 5' of clearance on each side, a corridor a couple of hundred feet long, in order to get into position for the forklift. There was no way to spin the boat around anywhere along that route. I did not "bump" the throttle to get to the forklift. It was important that I maintain full control at all times. Never had a close call. Because of crosswinds, the ramp I mostly use these days requires deliberate forward motion and control at all times. Methinks Reggie is a bathtub boater. |
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